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    Original OP 
(I saw Allan mention the lack of one so I thought I'd make one.)

Recent political stuff:

  • The vote to see if Britain should adopt Alternative Voting has failed.
  • Lib Dems lose lots of councils and councillors, whilst Labour make the majority of the gains in England.
  • The Scottish National Party do really well in the elections.

A link to the BBC politics page containing relevant information.

Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 3rd 2023 at 11:15:30 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#35476: Feb 15th 2019 at 4:30:45 AM

Yes, the UK doesn't seem to have any legal obligation to facilitate her return since she's in a place where there is nothing set up to do so. If she somehow gets to an airport in Turkey, that's another story.

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#35477: Feb 15th 2019 at 4:35:52 AM

> If she somehow gets to an airport in Turkey, that's another story.

My concern is her conveniently disappearing during her trip to Turkey,I would not trust Turkey's Government to delivor her

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#35478: Feb 15th 2019 at 6:01:30 AM

Her children deserve to be cared for, they’ve done no wrong. Beyond that I stand that the system has failed when a 16 year old is both willing and capable of what she did.

Her parents failed, her teachers failed, social services failed, her local community failed, it took a lot of failure to cause this.

Oh and like hell should her kids be given to anyone in her family back here, they’ve already screwed up bad enough to radicalise one child, I’d rather not give them a chance to do that to more.

Plus from a raw security perspective she’s less of a problem here in jail than over there out of our control.

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#35479: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:05:48 AM

If she somehow gets back, letting her raise a child is out of a question with those attitudes, though.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#35480: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:07:38 AM

Yeah, I'm not 100% comfortable with someone who is fine with seeing journalists beheaded raising another human being either.

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#35481: Feb 15th 2019 at 8:56:32 AM

Yeah, kid needs to be placed into government care/be put up for adoption ASAP.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#35484: Feb 16th 2019 at 3:40:17 AM

And this is why I was hesitant to believe that jam story.

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#35485: Feb 16th 2019 at 9:33:16 AM

[up][up] And good riddance. I'm guessing it would be too much to hope that the entire paper goes under?

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#35486: Feb 16th 2019 at 9:34:51 AM

It won't go under any time soon unfortunately,it's got too much money behind it

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#35487: Feb 16th 2019 at 12:43:46 PM

[up]It might lose its effectiveness if its readers abandon it. Money can keep it afloat but not force people to read it.

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#35488: Feb 16th 2019 at 1:58:44 PM

True, but this was literally a case of them choosing readership over good PR.

I strongly suspect that the people who want to read stories about one of Britain's most infamous murderers coming out as trans, or how the "trans mafia" wants to ban the word mother actually care it's made up.

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#35489: Feb 16th 2019 at 11:57:00 PM

It has been the Daily Mail's MO for year to tell the readers what they want to hear - they even portray the same story differently depending on where they sell the paper. So I doubt that this will sink them.

Wyldchyld (Old as dirt)
#35490: Feb 17th 2019 at 4:16:55 PM

My MP died today. It's the end of an era. He was damn good MP, too.

RIP Paul Flynn.

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#35491: Feb 18th 2019 at 12:59:07 AM

John Oliver is adressing Brexit a third time.

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#35492: Feb 18th 2019 at 1:40:24 AM

I haven’t seen it yet, but please tell me he brings back the kid singing to the tune of An die Freude.

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#35493: Feb 18th 2019 at 2:06:15 AM

Something about Oliver's bits about Brexit always seems to me like it's lacking teeth. I get that it's meant to be a "comedy" show, and meant for an American audience, but...

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#35494: Feb 18th 2019 at 2:17:58 AM

Seven Labour M Ps just quit the party.

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#35495: Feb 18th 2019 at 2:24:33 AM

Looks like it was the standard awkward squad - Umunna, Berger, and company. They'll apparently not be contesting their own safe seats but Labour marginals, so this seems to be a pretty direct act of sabotage.

What's precedent ever done for us?
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#35496: Feb 18th 2019 at 2:28:05 AM

Even with my very limited knowledge of UK politics, I wasn't surprised to see Umunna on that list.

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#35497: Feb 18th 2019 at 2:33:01 AM

One other important thing - they're not a new party, but an alliance of independents. That means they don't have to disclose their funding.

What's precedent ever done for us?
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#35498: Feb 18th 2019 at 2:35:58 AM

"M Ps will sit as independent group after resigning in protest at party’s Brexit stance and its handling of antisemitism" - I can buy them being Remainers that don't like Labour not going hard Remain, but the antisemitism garbage excuse again?

"...in the end the Shadow was only a small and passing thing: there was light and high beauty for ever beyond its reach."
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#35499: Feb 18th 2019 at 2:37:15 AM

A bunch of them are significant players in Labour Friends of Israel. I guess they decided that was an oxymoron.

What's precedent ever done for us?
SebastianGray (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#35500: Feb 18th 2019 at 2:44:20 AM

While I appreciate what they are doing, this probably wasn't the right time to do it. They should have done it some time last year.


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