More unorthodox declines:
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
troacctid: Unused redirect in the wrong namespace
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Game/Jaws cut requested: 31st Oct cut date: 31st Oct
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
troacctid: Unused redirect in the wrong namespace
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Game/Grandia cut requested: 31st Oct cut date: 31st Oct
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
troacctid: Unused redirect in the wrong namespace
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Main/Snowcloned cut requested: 30th Oct cut date: 30th Oct
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
Insignificant: Past tense redirect. Wiki markup can do this better.
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Main/Snowcloned cut requested: 30th Oct cut date: 31st Oct
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
Insignificant: Snowclone is already a redirect to Everythings Worse With Snowclones, typing {{Snowclone}}d shows up as Snowcloned, so this isn't necessary.
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Main/Snowclones cut requested: 30th Oct cut date: 30th Oct
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
Insignificant: plural redirect
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Main/Snowclones cut requested: 30th Oct cut date: 30th Oct
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
Insignificant: Snowclone is already a redirect to Everythings Worse With Snowclones, we don't need a plural version.
Creating red links in 4 articles.
Main/Snowclones cut requested: 30th Oct cut date: 31st Oct
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
Insignificant: Snowclone is already a redirect to Everythings Worse With Snowclones. This is just the same thing except plural. We're not supposed to have plural redirects. It has no inbounds. There is no reason to keep this. So why does it keep getting declined?
Creating red links in 4 articles.
Seriously?
Please stop cut listing harmless redirects.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
I was under the impression that redirects for things like pluralization were against wiki policy.
Reaction Image Repository
They are- things which only need the use of curly brackets don't need a redirect, they need some education for the editor and an easy way to do that is to cut the page.
To generally improve your cut list...I begin with a story.
I bought a year free-pass to a local cinema because I wanted to see more films. I had typically mostly been a reader and watcher of television (and of course, edited TV Tropes). I realised that films would take more time out of my day so I went to my boss and asked for some extra time off work.
For some reason, he rejected that proposal and I ended up cutting time down from my other hobbies. I read less and my editing on TV Tropes shifted more to visual media.
Now of course that story is bullshit because it's obvious- when you get a new hobby, time goes from the other hobbies and overall it shifts. Time moderating is time not attending to the cut list nor worrying about it. Cut Master+ Moderator and Cut Master+Administrator are just Moderator and Administrator with a button. Then consider that those listed as just cut masters don't really attend to it anymore and you are left with no cut masters.
Here's some recent Cut List related garbage:
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
Mag Bas: The only "question" is a complaint, not a legitimate headscratcher.
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Where The Hell Is Springfield cut requested: 21st Dec cut date: 21st Dec
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
My Timing Is Off: The only "headscratcher" on here is a complaint. Why was the last request declined?
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Where The Hell Is Springfield cut requested: 22nd Dec cut date: 22nd Dec
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
My Timing Is Off: Again, no headscratchers, just a complaint. Again, declined without a reason given.
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Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
My Timing Is Off: I don't need a blank contributor page.
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My Timing Is Off cut requested: 21st Dec cut date: 21st Dec
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
My Timing Is Off: There is no reason to keep a blank troper page, especially when the very troper the page is for wants it gone. Why was the last request declined?
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My Timing Is Off cut requested: 22nd Dec cut date: 22nd Dec
Cut request declined. There may be discussion here.
My Timing Is Off: Last request was declined, again for NO REASON. Seriously, a BLANK PAGE is not useful in any way, shape or form.
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Seriously, this is pathetic.
EDIT: They finally got cut.
edited 22nd Dec '11 6:44:59 PM by MyTimingIsOff
Necroing the thread: About inbounds, what is the acceptable limit? I've heard that redirects with more than 10 inbounds aren't cut (the inbounds being the all-important gauge of usefulness after all), which is why I am recently asking for the restoration of several ptitle redirects. But e.g If You Know What I Mean was cut despite having 6k inbounds.
In the name of the gods, why?.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Because its overuse and misuse was taking the place over.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Thanks. About the inbounds, is ten the limit or not? (I am speaking about ptitle redirects, mostly)
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
10 is good rule of thumb. There may be extenuating circumstances favoring/disfavoring a name with either more or fewer.
edited 28th Jan '12 11:50:35 AM by FastEddie
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Thanks again.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator
I'm not entirely sure whether or not this is the best thread to post this, but I do have one little concern.
See, earlier today, I added Havenwood to the Cut List due to the page being just a list of tropes. A few minutes, the cut request was declined. I don't quite understand the reason behind this declination. I mean, I'm more than well aware of the There Is No Such Thing As Notability policy, but the page is literally just a list of tropes; there's no work summary, no link or any other information to indicate that it even exists beyond being an unpublished work; the work page is not even indexed. I'm kinda confused here, is what I'm saying.
edited 14th Apr '12 5:13:51 PM by Komodin
Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
...Doesn't that simply mean that the page is incomplete?
Now using Trivialis handle.
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Oh, it's because the description matters less than the tropes.
But yes, the cutlist has forever been affected by inconsistency issues.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
Works without a description don't go on the cutlist. We have pages for works needing a description (Needs A Better Description), If you know what medium it's in, mention it in the appropriate subforum.
edited 15th Apr '12 4:29:57 AM by TheOneWhoTropes
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Oh so you know what Havenwood is then? You know what any of the tropes are referring to? You're sure that this isn't just a list of tropes of some unpublished tropers' works? You're positive that someone who hasn't edited here since 2009 is going to come back and fix it. Does the page in any way function as page? Can the examples be examples if you don't even have any evidence they exist, nevermind the opportunity to go and check them.
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
Seems to be an unpublished works page, which I gleaned from the history. There was a description, but it was deleted for just being "Misc. Havenwood and Shiloh tropes go here. To be used as a reference tool, and updated whenever the creators feel like it." Made by a troper who only edited for a couple of days in October 2011. So, in this case, going back on the cutlist is the right decision.
edited 15th Apr '12 8:35:17 AM by TheOneWhoTropes
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
You seem to have missed my point which was that "Works without a description don't go on the cutlist." is untrue because not having a description raises all those questions which renders the page unfunctional. The meagre line in the history actually does help with some of those answers and just tells me that it needs to be cut some more.
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
I spend a lot of time on untyped pages, which sometimes shows this problem, even with things relatively popular. I suppose because I am overly familiar with new pages in this state, I sometimes forget that things 3 years old in that state really need help (if you can find out what it is) or to be deleted (if too obscure).
TV Tropes' Sonic Wiki Curator
It's been "incomplete" for months. Something's gotta be done about this, right?
Experience has taught me to investigate anything that glows.
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
It should be deleted. I couldn't find it through Google. Shiloh turns up an old film.
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
I thought the point was to complete it, but not worry about how long it takes. Isn't that how a wiki works?
- #14 @INUH is right. I saw "Batman TAS" and thought of batman site:tasvideos.org
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- #45 I just tried to rescue Recursion. In the state I found it, it was a horribly incomplete description, appearing to have been intended as a joke Self-Demonstrating Article. I kept the self-demonstrating nature while adding the two essentials: a function has a base case, and it has other cases defined in terms of the function. It might be a candidate for moving to Useful Notes though if I can't find any subtropes other than Recursive Reality.
- #93 @Insignificant is right: this sort of transparency would help.
Let me explain for a moment how cutting works on wikis operated by Wikimedia Foundation (and other wikis using MediaWiki software that have based their processes on those of WMF wikis). True, we aren't TOW but that doesn't mean we can't learn from Wikipedia.
A user requesting a cut puts a cut request template on a page that the user wants cut, and the template takes the reason as an argument. This template puts the page in a category used as the cut list, and the addition is logged in the page's edit history. A sysop (MediaWiki's counterpart to a cutmaster, except also having the power to lock and unlock pages) will check the cut list, research each request, and either remove the request from the page (and provide the reason for denial in the edit reason field, so that it too is logged in the edit history) or cut the page (and provide a reason that gets logged in recent cuts). In either case, both the reason and the sysop's username get logged publicly.
And only cuts meeting specific criteria go directly to a cut request. The rest go to AFD, a rough counterpart to TRS.
edited 15th Apr '12 4:35:14 PM by DamianYerrick
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
We don't know what it is and I couldn't Google it. It looks like it could be a work on an obscure blog or fanfic site, there is no information about what or where it is, the creator edited the site to make the page and some edits in Oct '11, then they disappeared.
edited 15th Apr '12 4:35:08 PM by TheOneWhoTropes
Keeper of The Celestial Flame
Per this thread, trope headscratchers are supposed to be cut. But every time I submit a cut request for one or more of the pages, even with the thread linked, the cut is denied without explanation.
There is some kind of serious problem with the trope formerly known as If You Know What I Mean that we need Eddie to figure out.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"