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JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#1: Apr 7th 2011 at 3:02:27 PM

I seriously doubt this trope is even pictureable outside of a comic discussing it.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#2: Apr 7th 2011 at 3:30:23 PM

Pulled for JAFAAC. Also agree that this is unpicturable.

Previous:

He probably wishes he had never taken this role.

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#4: Apr 7th 2011 at 4:28:36 PM

+1 for unpictureable.

suedenim Teutonic Tomboy T-Girl from Jet Dream HQ Since: Oct, 2009
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#5: Apr 7th 2011 at 6:48:58 PM

"Hard to picture" <> "unpictureable." I was thinking something like a photoshop joke poster might exist for some good example, though I just looked for such a thing for Halle Berry's Catwoman and failed.

I'm betting we can come up with something.

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#6: Apr 8th 2011 at 4:05:39 AM

Honestly, considering the volume of open threads, if we have to hunt that hard for something for a thread, it's probably not worth the effort.

SD81 Since: Jan, 2001
#7: May 24th 2011 at 4:26:46 AM

I think it's perfectly picturable. What ever happened to "We are not a stuffy encyclopedic wiki. We're a buttload more informal." Hmm? Really, any notorious role which derailed a one-bankable star should suffice. Like the image we had.

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#8: May 24th 2011 at 5:57:59 AM

It's quite simple: images that don't illustrate the trope (in as much as this can fall into that category) without knowing what it means don't go on the page. This is one of the areas where we're stricter than wikipedia, as we also do not allow more than one image in nearly all cases (except for character pages).

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eviltwin531 Since: Jan, 2011
#9: Jun 23rd 2011 at 2:36:25 PM

What about an edit of this image? Someone with better editing skills than I have could change the two captions to "Success" and "Actor's Career."

edited 23rd Jun '11 2:38:15 PM by eviltwin531

ArtisticPlatypus Resident pretentious dickwad from the bottom of my heart. Since: Jul, 2010
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#10: Jun 23rd 2011 at 2:39:34 PM

Couldn't we make something like the images for Leslie Nielsen Syndrome and Tom Hanks Syndrome? Three posters for films that look high-brow and/or big-budget, and then three that look like C-list crud, starring the same actor.

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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#11: Jun 23rd 2011 at 4:07:31 PM

It would have to be modified if you did that - the trope is specifically about the specific role/film (I understand why it's not called Star Derailing Film, but it really is sort of that) that started the downward slide.

edited 23rd Jun '11 4:08:16 PM by Leaper

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#12: Jun 23rd 2011 at 4:15:57 PM

A two-one-two arrangement could work: two from when they could do no wrong, the one that caused the crash, and then two of the b-or-lower grade films that they were stuck with afterwards.

like so

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ArtisticPlatypus Resident pretentious dickwad from the bottom of my heart. Since: Jul, 2010
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#13: Jun 23rd 2011 at 4:16:57 PM

Good point. maybe a two-one-two arrangement then. Two 'good' films on the top row, the derailer film in the middle, and two 'bad' films on the bottom?

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#14: Jun 23rd 2011 at 6:26:48 PM

[up] Sounds like a plan, let's run with it and see how it looks.

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#15: Jun 23rd 2011 at 6:39:20 PM

With the two good and two bad being somewhat smaller than the one starkiller, so that it's the most prominent of them all.

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#16: Jun 23rd 2011 at 7:04:44 PM

Whoopi?

some caption text

edited 23rd Jun '11 7:05:59 PM by Madrugada

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Leaper Since: May, 2009
#17: Jun 23rd 2011 at 8:12:08 PM

Holy crap... There's a movie called Homie Spumoni?!?

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#18: Jun 23rd 2011 at 8:29:35 PM

I know.[lol] "Born black. Raised Italian" It's so sad. In a hilarious way. Or hilarious in a sad way, I'm not sure which.

I'd never heard of it either but there it was in her filmography, large as life and twice as jawdropping.

It might almost be worth it to do 1-1-1, just so that one can be big enough to read better.

edited 23rd Jun '11 8:30:35 PM by Madrugada

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eviltwin531 Since: Jan, 2011
#19: Jun 24th 2011 at 4:37:03 AM

I know Whoopi isn't on the poster itself, but I'd suggest swapping out "Corrine, Corrine" for "Ghost," since it is what she got an Oscar for. We could also Appeal To Obscurity in the caption. Top: Critical acclaim and an Academy Award. Bottom: Have you heard of them?

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#20: Jun 24th 2011 at 11:15:36 AM

I thought about using Ghost really hard before going with ''Corrina Corrina"" instead, and decided that since this is visual, an image, that using a movie where she's not anywhere on the cover art would be making an assumption that might not turn out to be true.

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tbarrie Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Jun 24th 2011 at 12:54:06 PM

The problem with the poster collage idea is that you're still relying on people knowing which movies were popular and/or critically acclaimed to get any meaning out of it. It's at best a minor improvement on the old image.

eviltwin531 Since: Jan, 2011
#22: Jun 24th 2011 at 8:05:16 PM

What about a line graph? We could plot their career going up and up, have the SDR at the peak, and showing the drop off afterwards?

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#23: Aug 11th 2011 at 10:15:20 AM

I like the Whoopi image pretty well. There might be some other better-known actor-and-movie pairings too.

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#24: Aug 11th 2011 at 10:18:49 AM

I like the Whoopi image as well.

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#25: Aug 11th 2011 at 12:54:47 PM

I'd almost recommend Sean Connery in the red diaper from Zardoz, but it didn't really stop him.

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