General Star Wars Animated Series

Personally, I think we just have different definitions of how engaging younger audiences work. Either you're underestimating younger audiences or I am overestimating them, in either case it doesn't seem like either of us is going to change.

You yourself effectively claimed to be burned out on the negativity on the fanbase. I think you're just naturally reacting to my criticism by boiling it down to the whole "Star Wars fans say anything that doesn't appeal to them personally is bad" as a result.

I think this has run its course unless you have anything else to add or until we have future information to gauge the series.

I'm all ready a big fan of these characters. I really like that, (at the start of the story at least) they're all civilians, with one being a war-vet.

Like, Star Wars hardly ever let's us see what the Galaxy Far Far Way looks like from the eyes of civilians.

Also the art style is better and better the more I look at it.

The question, going over the conversation as a whole, hasn't been how to engage children, it's been whether you're jumping the gun on whether the show isn't going to adequately engage children despite you having very little reason to do so. You're having a knee jerk reaction to the show appearing more juvenile than previous serious (which, as has been noted repeatedly, is debatable given Rebels) and are subsequently conflating that opinion with fact despite the fact that there is little actual information about what the overall tone of the series is going to be.

Or in short, the problem isn't that the show is dumbing itself down for kids. It's that you've decided that they are prematurely and refuse to entertain the idea that this instant reaction might not be accurate. I would just let that lie, but if you're going to try and make it a case of our overall perceptions of the kind of quality children shows should have, that needs to be said. Those assumptions are now being applied to our opinions on the subject even if we haven't actually said such things, and that's only going to limit conversation going forward.

If your case now, especially, is that we're picking on you because we're against Star Wars fans being negative and you just happen to be in the way, I can assure you that's not the case, and I hope you don't take that perception into future conversations like this because it's only going to lead to trouble. I've been responding to the holes in your argument because those holes are there, not because I'm against Star Wars fans being negative in general.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Aug 31st 2018 at 6:45:25 AM

It's about the third time I repeat this: The debate has (and I've pointed this out thrice by now) been about Bad Wolf saying "If' this show is aimed at younger audiences, where's the harm in it?". My first post was more grumpy because that trailer was truly hideous, but otherwise I've always been clear on that.

To literally quote myself in earlier posts:

So the reason you're finding holes in my argument is because it's not at all the argument I'm making. You're arguing against the wind.

My take on this is: The marketing needs to switch gears to focus a bit on the darker elements if that's what they're doing.

Edited by Gaon on Aug 31st 2018 at 8:02:08 AM

Except no, it doesn't, because they've expressed that they're marketing it toward a younger audience. The marketing should absolutely stay on the bright, fun side of the show, because that's the part they want their target audience to get invested in. What you want is for them to market the show toward the Periphery Demographic of adult Star Wars fans.

Like, I wouldn't mind seeing the show's main villain in the next trailer (I'm assuming it's not Phasma), but I don't think they need to darken the trailers at all for it. Just give a sense of how the spying missions actually work in the series.

I like that it looks different from the previous shows.

Reminds me of wind waker's art style? Which is meant as a massive compliment.

I like how it looks. Now if only Polygon would keep that consistent frame rate for anime.

Eventhough I really liked TCW and Rebels from Day 1 (in fact TCW made me fan, before that Star Wars was kinda meh for me), I can't say I'm looking forward to Resistance.
Although the first look with the title card and fighter did pique my interest a bit, because the fighter looked like a fusion of an N-1 fighter and an X-Wing, but that was blown-out by the trailer. I know a bad trailer doesn't automatically equate to a bad series, but given Lucasfilms track record since Lucas sold it (2 awful movies (7&8), 1 okay movie(Solo), 1 meh movie(RO), 1 okay-to-good tv series, 1 cringe-to-okay webseries, 2 bad novels to every good one etc), I'm not holding my breath.
Still, I've heard from a lot of prequel haters who were at least partially turned by TCW, so I hope this series will do the same with the Rehases for me.

Edited by Werebazs on Aug 31st 2018 at 7:57:20 PM

Hello everyone, I've brought up a query regarding the spoilers for The Clone Wars on ATT. As pointed out by lakingsif elsewhere on ATT, TV shows are commonly spoilers-off for all but the latest season. Because of the sheer volume of spoilers and now that the sixth season ended a few years ago, I propose that we should remove all spoilers for the first six seasons on the trope pages with a warning added to it (i.e. "All spoilers for the first six seasons are unmarked") since the seventh season has been announced.

I'm thinking about getting a consensus on this matter. Thoughts or objections?

Edited by gjjones on Sep 1st 2018 at 11:03:39 AM

Traditionally, we remove the spoilers the day before the new material comes out, not merely when it's announced. Just wait a bit.

Gotcha.

Also for Rebels, do you want to unmark all spoilers since the final season aired only a few months ago or just wait for it?

Edited by gjjones on Sep 2nd 2018 at 1:27:28 PM

I’d wait. I only finished that series a few weeks ago , some people here haven’t finished watching it

I'm six episodes into season 2 of Rebels. Love seeing Ahsoka and Captain Rex become a part of the cast, though I note they haven't taken over the show. The main characters established in season 1 are still the main characters. I'm looking forward to the inevitable Vader vs. Ahsoka confrontation which has to happen at this point. I don't know when, but there's no avoiding it.

I'm continually impressed by just how much I've been enjoying these animated Star Wars shows. They're really well done.

If it wasn't already apparent from his behavior when first appearing in Rebels, Henry Gilroy has more or less confirmed that Wolffe participated in Order 66 prior to having his chip removed, although he wasn't in the air when Plo was shot down.

Interesting!

If Clone Wars is coming back then... what happens with this? Are we getting a Bane vs Fett fight?

I'd love it if we did get that, but I'm just not sure if there will be enough time in a 12 episode span. Unfortunately, I don't think they'll prioritize telling Boba's story in this last season.

He really does need a movie.

A full on space western in the vein of The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly with Boba as The Good, Hondo as The Bad, & Bane as The Ugly.

....... Or maybe Hondo as The Good & Boba as The Bad.

Shame Solo tanked. No more spinoff movies now when that would have been good.

They’re not cancelled. They’re just not annualizing them.

The Star Wars Story are, at present, delayed, and iirc some fringe projects or newer ideas that were still in the idea stages got cancelled. The big ones like Obi-Wan or Boba Fett are emphatically not among those cancelled however, at least not yet, and have instead been out on the back burner.

It will undoubtedly be a long time before we see them, however.

Eh, I bet we get a movie in 2021. Spring 2022 at the latest.

IIRC a lot of that depends on if Episode IX flops or not.

They’ve said nothing about that, so...not sure how you can recall anything there.

What they’ve said is that they’re taking a step back and reassessing their strategy. Which means that nothing is cancelled, and they’re not looking to stop making movies, but they’re not looking to rush them out the door every year anymore.