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#1176: Jul 30th 2023 at 3:13:04 AM

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#1177: Oct 9th 2023 at 6:01:02 PM

Is there a hard rule of non-franchise slasher films needing to be discussed here?

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#1178: Oct 10th 2023 at 5:25:54 AM

Looking at the thread, I get the impression that the complaint wasn't that the films in question weren't part of a franchise, but rather that they were off-topic for the thread.

That is, in a thread for movie X, discussion of movies Y, Z, and W is off-topic—regardless of whether those movies are stand-alone or franchise entries.

However, in this specific case the discussion seems to have been what the creator of the thread's "movie X" might adapt next—which might well be argued to be close enough to the topic.

So, as far as I'm aware "non-franchise" slashers don't have to be discussed here. But if we were in a thread for, say, Scream, and we started to unrelatedly discuss the merits of, say, Friday the 13th, that discussion might perhaps be better moved here.

Edited by ArsThaumaturgis on Oct 10th 2023 at 2:26:37 PM

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#1179: Oct 11th 2023 at 6:53:39 PM

The Prowler might be the most boring slasher movie I have ever seen.

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#1181: Oct 13th 2023 at 7:29:28 PM

I just watched it for the first time! Betsy Palmer was clearly having the time of her life Chewing the Scenery.

I really hate that they apparently killed a real snake though.

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#1182: Oct 13th 2023 at 9:57:36 PM

Speaking of slasher films, I once watched a Filipino slasher movie called Bloody Crayons. I say it was a pretty okay film but I was kinda underwhelmed by the reveal imo.

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#1183: Oct 14th 2023 at 12:12:10 PM

Something occurred to me. So, most of the famous slashers have these really distinct and iconic appearances created by the props/costuming/makeup departments: Michael Myers, Freddy Kruger, Ghostface, Chucky ... even Jigsaw has that little puppet.

But when it comes to Jason Voorhees, the iconic appearance is ... a goalie mask. Not a specially stylized goalie mask, and not a goalie mask paired with some other distinct piece of apparel. Just a goalie mask.

And it's not like the Friday the 13th films invented goalie masks. They don't have exclusive rights to goalie masks. And because of hockey's association with brutality, they can't even claim that pairing a goalie mask with violence is unique to them. Given that, is there anything preventing a random slasher movie from having their killer wear a goalie mask?

It doesn't seem like something the Friday the 13th films could trademark ... but if they don't have a trademark on it, I have to wonder why there aren't dozens of goalie mask clad slashers out there making use of the iconography.

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#1184: Oct 14th 2023 at 12:15:13 PM

> It doesn't seem like something the Friday the 13th films could trademark ... but if they don't have a trademark on it, I have to wonder why there aren't dozens of goalie mask clad slashers out there making use of the iconography.

they say imitation is the most sincere form of flattery,maybe its just not popular enough to imitate outside of deliberate parodies

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#1185: Oct 14th 2023 at 7:50:05 PM

[up][up] There's the F13 rip-off Bloody Murder (which ditched the hockey mask for the sequel). Everything else seems like deliberate homage, like Unmasked Part 25 or Asylum of Terror.

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#1186: Oct 14th 2023 at 7:58:42 PM

[up][up]Friday the 13th is one of the most popular slasher franchises out there, it is not due to lack of popularity.

[up][up][up]Because Friday the 13th did it first and is popular enough that the hockey mask is linked to the franchise. Doing it would just see the movie dismissed as a cheap knockoff.

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#1187: Oct 15th 2023 at 12:27:40 AM

To be fair, even within the F13 franchise they did (briefly) toy with the concept of some random schmuck just picking up a hockey mask and a big knife and copy-catting Jason.

Shame it was terrible though.

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#1188: Oct 15th 2023 at 7:01:10 AM

The movie itself is not even that bad, it’s just a dumb killer reveal.

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#1189: Oct 15th 2023 at 3:47:23 PM

Part V has real wrong place, wrong time vibes: released at the franchise’s biggest boom in the mid-80s and an introspective (well for a Friday film at least) and psychological affair for a series known for codifying shitty horror cliches.

It’s like if New Nightmare followed up the third Elm Street movie: people back then didn’t expect or want something like this.

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#1190: Nov 13th 2023 at 9:04:43 AM

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#1191: Nov 15th 2023 at 10:47:31 AM

I haven't seen it myself, but reviews look pretty good for Eli Roth's Thanksgiving, so far. The biggest complaint seems to be that the film is well aware that it could be a cult classic, and leans into it a little.

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#1192: Feb 9th 2024 at 8:17:50 PM

Winnie-the-Pooh: Blood and Honey sequel just released a trailer a few days ago and honestly, it looks much better than the first movie. I like that Winnie and Piglet look more humanoid than the first movie where they look more like a person in a mask rather than a human-looking animal. And I'm even invested in seeing their version of Tigger and Owl. I know it's just a trailer but I do hope it's less goofy than the first one, idk. Here's the trailer. And let me know what are your guys' thoughts on this so far.

Edited by Bubblepig on Feb 9th 2024 at 8:23:35 AM

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#1193: Feb 18th 2024 at 7:54:23 PM

About Friday the 13th, I’m genuinely confused as to how it’s the most popular slasher (and if we’re being honest here, horror) movie franchise over Halloween. Friday the 13th takes 3 films for Jason to become Jason, 6 films to get to a movie everyone agrees is good,and has no iconic characters other than Jason and mayyyybe Tommy, but the Halloween franchise’s best and most iconic movie is it’s first, it has Jamie Lee Curtis as the iconic Laurie Strode, and the Franchise isisnt currently in limbo. Yet Jason remains the go to Stock Slasher. Why? I’m not complaining, it’s just baffling to me.

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#1194: Feb 18th 2024 at 8:46:24 PM

It's probably because Friday the 13th came out at a much more consistent rate than the Halloween franchise. Across the '80s (considered the height of the slasher genre), Halloween had four entries and one of them wasn't even a slasher film. Friday had eight films released in that same decade at a nearly annual rate.

Friday probably also benefited from having more elaborate kills and sex scenes, which were the two main appeals for slasher flicks of that era. By contrast, Halloween tends to be a bit more reserved in those areas.

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#1195: Feb 18th 2024 at 8:52:35 PM

Hmm yeah probably. Speaking of the sex scenes I just realized the decrease of those in slashers can probably be attributed to the internet. Huh.

Edited by DeltaCube91 on Feb 18th 2024 at 8:58:02 AM

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