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* FandomSpecificPlot: ''Valkyrie Profile: Hrist''. Since the main game in the series does not seem to be forthcoming anytime soon, fans have taken it upon themselves to complete the trilogy centered on the three Valkyries. Tri-Ace itself has been known to poke fun at the fact that Hrist is the only Valkyrie without her own game.
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* FandomSpecificPlot: ''Valkyrie Profile: Hrist''. Since the third main game in the series does not seem to be forthcoming anytime soon, fans have taken it upon themselves to complete the trilogy centered on the three Valkyries. Tri-Ace itself has been known to poke fun at the fact that Hrist is the only Valkyrie without her own game.
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* FandomSpecificPlot: ''Valkyrie Profile: Hrist''. Since the main game in the series does not seem to be forthcoming anytime soon, fans have taken it upon themselves to complete the trilogy centered on the three Valkyries. Tri-Ace itself has been known to poke fun at the fact that Hrist is the only Valkyrie without her own game.
-->'''Hrist:''' [[BreakingTheFourthWall Where is MY leading role?!]]
-->'''Hrist:''' [[BreakingTheFourthWall Where is MY leading role?!]]
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* OnceOriginalNowOverdone: The voice acting is seen as quite {{Narm}}y and the voice actors are seen as "Bad". However, at the time these were some of the only "Veteran" voice actors on the market ''period'' - as only people who did cartoons really "knew" how to voice act. What also didn't help was allegedly, they were only given one take and little to no direction - which for a video game was actually fairly common.
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* OnceOriginalNowOverdone: OnceOriginalNowCommon: The voice acting is seen as quite {{Narm}}y and the voice actors are seen as "Bad". However, at the time these were some of the only games to have any voice acting period, with the cast consisting of some of those who were the only "Veteran" voice actors on the market ''period'' - as only people who did cartoons really "knew" how to voice act. What also didn't help was allegedly, they were only given one take and little to no direction - which for a video game produced at the time was actually a fairly common. common practice.
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* GoodBadBugs: A presumable example. As you play, you'll obtain Slayer weapons, weapons that target a certain type of enemy that will instantly die if struck by the weapon. For example, Dragon Slayer swords instantly kill (nearly) all dragons. As a trade off, all such Slayer weapons have a 30% chance of breaking after an attack. However, if said attack kills the final enemy and ends the battle, the weapon will always be safe and in good repair. So as long as you save whatever enemy you are slaying for last, your slayer weapons will never break.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The voice acting is seen as quite {{Narm}}y and the voice actors are seen as "Bad". However, at the time these were some of the only "Veteran" voice actors on the market ''period'' - as only people who did cartoons really "knew" how to voice act. What also didn't help was allegedly, they were only given one take and little to no direction - which for a video game was actually fairly common.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: OnceOriginalNowOverdone: The voice acting is seen as quite {{Narm}}y and the voice actors are seen as "Bad". However, at the time these were some of the only "Veteran" voice actors on the market ''period'' - as only people who did cartoons really "knew" how to voice act. What also didn't help was allegedly, they were only given one take and little to no direction - which for a video game was actually fairly common.
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* LowTierLetdown:
** About half the players hate Llewelyn because of how he is in-story; the other half hate his terrible attack power and tendency to miss. His ''only'' saving grace is that using his finisher guarantees the chance to use another finisher with a large combo attached to it - and there are other characters who can do it nearly as well.
** Grey's only saving grace is his high defense; otherwise, his attack power is mostly poor, lands few hits, and he has a mediocre Purify Weird Soul attack.
** Kashell has the weakest Purify Weird Soul in the game. Granted, he actually ''does'' have better attacks than Arngrim.
** Badrach's attacks are weak and can only connect well with larger enemies. To make matters worse, he has the lowest hero value out of all the Einherjar, so sending him up to Valhalla (which many players often do) is difficult. An archer is the needed Einherjar for Chapter 5 (one of two chapters you can get him in), so that only stacks up the difficulty.
*** Archers in general - unless they're named Janus or Lenneth with bows.
** Sorcerers/Sorceresses often fall into this but it's mostly because you only need one, and most people pick with Mystina or have picked their sorcerer far earlier in the game. This would be okay if the later chapters didn't throw a lot of them at you. Mystina is one of the better sorceresses, besting Jelanda and the three sorceresses from Yamato, and is equal to Lorenta (who is obtained earlier) and is necessary for Ending A, but her power pales against Lyseria and Gandar (both only available on hard mode).
** Because of the DiscOneNuke nature, some characters like Jun, Suo, and Jayle may fall into this simply because they're OvershadowedByAwesome. Suo in particular can only be recruited in Chapter 7 - when a player will pretty much have their endgame team long established.
** About half the players hate Llewelyn because of how he is in-story; the other half hate his terrible attack power and tendency to miss. His ''only'' saving grace is that using his finisher guarantees the chance to use another finisher with a large combo attached to it - and there are other characters who can do it nearly as well.
** Grey's only saving grace is his high defense; otherwise, his attack power is mostly poor, lands few hits, and he has a mediocre Purify Weird Soul attack.
** Kashell has the weakest Purify Weird Soul in the game. Granted, he actually ''does'' have better attacks than Arngrim.
** Badrach's attacks are weak and can only connect well with larger enemies. To make matters worse, he has the lowest hero value out of all the Einherjar, so sending him up to Valhalla (which many players often do) is difficult. An archer is the needed Einherjar for Chapter 5 (one of two chapters you can get him in), so that only stacks up the difficulty.
*** Archers in general - unless they're named Janus or Lenneth with bows.
** Sorcerers/Sorceresses often fall into this but it's mostly because you only need one, and most people pick with Mystina or have picked their sorcerer far earlier in the game. This would be okay if the later chapters didn't throw a lot of them at you. Mystina is one of the better sorceresses, besting Jelanda and the three sorceresses from Yamato, and is equal to Lorenta (who is obtained earlier) and is necessary for Ending A, but her power pales against Lyseria and Gandar (both only available on hard mode).
** Because of the DiscOneNuke nature, some characters like Jun, Suo, and Jayle may fall into this simply because they're OvershadowedByAwesome. Suo in particular can only be recruited in Chapter 7 - when a player will pretty much have their endgame team long established.
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* TierInducedScrappy:
** About half the players hate Llewelyn because of how he is in-story; the other half hate his terrible attack power and tendency to miss. His ''only'' saving grace is that using his finisher guarantees the chance to use another finisher with a large combo attached to it - and there are other characters who can do it nearly as well.
** Grey's only saving grace is his high defense; otherwise, his attack power is mostly poor, lands few hits, and he has a mediocre Purify Weird Soul attack.
** Kashell has the weakest Purify Weird Soul in the game. Granted, he actually ''does'' have better attacks than Arngrim.
** Badrach's attacks are weak and can only connect well with larger enemies. To make matters worse, he has the lowest hero value out of all the Einherjar, so sending him up to Valhalla (which many players often do) is difficult. An archer is the needed Einherjar for Chapter 5 (one of two chapters you can get him in), so that only stacks up the difficulty.
*** Archers in general - unless they're named Janus or Lenneth with bows.
** Sorcerers/Sorceresses often fall into this but it's mostly because you only need one, and most people pick with Mystina or have picked their sorcerer far earlier in the game. This would be okay if the later chapters didn't throw a lot of them at you. Mystina is one of the better sorceresses, besting Jelanda and the three sorceresses from Yamato, and is equal to Lorenta (who is obtained earlier) and is necessary for Ending A, but her power pales against Lyseria and Gandar (both only available on hard mode).
** Because of the DiscOneNuke nature, some characters like Jun, Suo, and Jayle may fall into this simply because they're OvershadowedByAwesome. Suo in particular can only be recruited in Chapter 7 - when a player will pretty much have their endgame team long established.
** About half the players hate Llewelyn because of how he is in-story; the other half hate his terrible attack power and tendency to miss. His ''only'' saving grace is that using his finisher guarantees the chance to use another finisher with a large combo attached to it - and there are other characters who can do it nearly as well.
** Grey's only saving grace is his high defense; otherwise, his attack power is mostly poor, lands few hits, and he has a mediocre Purify Weird Soul attack.
** Kashell has the weakest Purify Weird Soul in the game. Granted, he actually ''does'' have better attacks than Arngrim.
** Badrach's attacks are weak and can only connect well with larger enemies. To make matters worse, he has the lowest hero value out of all the Einherjar, so sending him up to Valhalla (which many players often do) is difficult. An archer is the needed Einherjar for Chapter 5 (one of two chapters you can get him in), so that only stacks up the difficulty.
*** Archers in general - unless they're named Janus or Lenneth with bows.
** Sorcerers/Sorceresses often fall into this but it's mostly because you only need one, and most people pick with Mystina or have picked their sorcerer far earlier in the game. This would be okay if the later chapters didn't throw a lot of them at you. Mystina is one of the better sorceresses, besting Jelanda and the three sorceresses from Yamato, and is equal to Lorenta (who is obtained earlier) and is necessary for Ending A, but her power pales against Lyseria and Gandar (both only available on hard mode).
** Because of the DiscOneNuke nature, some characters like Jun, Suo, and Jayle may fall into this simply because they're OvershadowedByAwesome. Suo in particular can only be recruited in Chapter 7 - when a player will pretty much have their endgame team long established.
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** The game's English voice acting. It hurt a lot of otherwise powerful scenes, especially due to a lot of player association. For reference? These were the people who did the 4kids dub of ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries''.
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** The game's English voice acting. It hurt a lot of otherwise powerful scenes, especially acting, to some, mainly due to a lot of player association. association.[[note]] For reference? These reference, these were the people who did the 4kids dub of ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries''. ''Anime/PokemonTheSeries''.[[/note]]
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* CultClassic: The game is highly regarded in the JRPG fandom, but not a whole lot of people played it. Part of it was the initial small print run and the tendency for the discs to scratch leading to physical copies being VERY pricy. A PSP re-release, which was re-released again in 2022 on the [=PS4=] and [=PS5=], helped make the game much more accessible, but it still remains a cult game.
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* CultClassic: The game is highly regarded in the JRPG fandom, but not a whole lot of people played it. Part of it was the initial small print run and the tendency for the discs to scratch leading to physical copies being VERY pricy. A PSP re-release, which was re-released again also ported to Android and iOS in 2022 2018, and on the [=PS4=] and [=PS5=], [=PS5=] in 2022, helped make the game much more accessible, but it still remains a cult game.
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* CultClassic: The game is highly regarded in the JRPG fandom, but not a whole lot of people played it. Part of it was the initial small print run and the tendency for the discs to scratch leading to physical copies being VERY pricy. A PSP re-release helped make the game much more accessible, but it still remains a cult game.
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* CultClassic: The game is highly regarded in the JRPG fandom, but not a whole lot of people played it. Part of it was the initial small print run and the tendency for the discs to scratch leading to physical copies being VERY pricy. A PSP re-release re-release, which was re-released again in 2022 on the [=PS4=] and [=PS5=], helped make the game much more accessible, but it still remains a cult game.
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--> '''Hrist''': "It's 'Valkyrie Profile', not 'Mortal Profile!' They went out of their way to slight me!"
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** The fully leveled skills "Guts" and "Auto Item" in combination make it almost impossible for the entire party to die, rendering other skills of the same type basically pointless. Add some Angel Curio's and you can survive anything long enough to win. This technique becomes necessary against [[ThatOneBoss Bloodbane]] and the BonusDungeon.
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** The fully leveled skills "Guts" and "Auto Item" in combination make it almost impossible for the entire party to die, rendering other skills of the same type basically pointless. Add some Angel Curio's Curios and you can survive anything long enough to win. This technique becomes necessary against [[ThatOneBoss Bloodbane]] and the BonusDungeon.
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** The Creation Gem and Creation Jewel. When you have the Creation Gem, you can transmutate items into more useful items, but if you have the right artifact and the Creation Gem equipped, you can transmutate it into the Creation Jewel which can create some of the best equipment in the game and make the best usable items as well. You can get powerful weapons like the Unicorn's Horn and the Crimson Edge as early as Chapter 4 whereas you'd normally get them in Chapters 7-8. Furthermore, you can make the Dimension Slip which lets you [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin slip past all enemies and potential obstacles as they become transparent and thus unencounterable]]. Even if some of the items or weapons aren't the best weapons in game, they still qualify as InfinityMinusOneSword at best and will be usable to the end game.
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** The Creation Gem and Creation Jewel. When you have the Creation Gem, you can transmutate items into more useful items, but if you have the right artifact and the Creation Gem equipped, you can transmutate it into the Creation Jewel which can create some of the best equipment in the game and make the best usable items as well. You can get powerful weapons like the Unicorn's Horn and the Crimson Edge as early as Chapter 4 whereas you'd normally get them in Chapters 7-8. Furthermore, you can make the Dimension Slip which lets you [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin slip past all enemies and potential obstacles as they become transparent and thus unencounterable]]. Even if some of the items or weapons aren't the best weapons ones in the game, they still qualify as InfinityMinusOneSword at best and will be usable to the end game.endgame.
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** Lenneth's pre-fight quote doesn't make sense in the first game, especially when she refers it to ''her'' warriors. This was fixed in the sequel game, where she now says "Come to me ''brave'' warriors, the battle awaits us!"
* HilariousInHindsight: One of Freya's victory quotes is ''One day I must face Brahms...''. It is possible to have both Freya and Brahms in your party in the BonusDungeon.
* HilariousInHindsight: One of Freya's victory quotes is ''One day I must face Brahms...''. It is possible to have both Freya and Brahms in your party in the BonusDungeon.
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** Lenneth's pre-fight quote doesn't make sense in the first game, especially when she refers it to she's addressing ''her'' warriors. This was fixed in the sequel game, where she now says "Come to me ''brave'' warriors, the battle awaits us!"
* HilariousInHindsight: One of Freya's victory quotes is''One "One day I must face Brahms...''. " It is possible to have both Freya and Brahms in your party in the BonusDungeon.
* HilariousInHindsight: One of Freya's victory quotes is
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** Arngrim and Lawfer. After [[spoiler: Arngrim dies,]] [[spoiler:Arngrim dies]], Lawfer cannot bring himself to believe he had turned traitor and killed the princess. He ends up dying to release Arngrim's brother in the belief that "it's what Arngrim would do". do".
--> '''Hrist''': "It's 'Valkyrie Profile', not 'Mortal Profile!' They went out of their way to slight me!"
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** The game's English voice acting. It hurt a lot of otherwise powerful scenes, especially due to a lot of player association. For reference? These were the people who did the 4kids dub of ''AAnime/PokemonTheSeries''.''Anime/PokemonTheSeries''.
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* TheUnTwist: Boy, how many times does the prologue and opening movie hint you that [[spoiler:Platina is reborn as Lenneth Valkyrie, and she's still Lucian's [[OfficialCouple official love interest]]]]?
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* TheUnTwist: TheUntwist: Boy, how many times does the prologue and opening movie hint you that [[spoiler:Platina is reborn as Lenneth Valkyrie, and she's still Lucian's [[OfficialCouple official love interest]]]]?
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** The game's English voice acting. It hurt a lot of otherwise powerful scenes, especially due to a lot of player association. For reference? These were the people who did the 4kids dub of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''.''AAnime/PokemonTheSeries''.
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** The game's English voice acting. It hurt a lot of otherwise powerful scenes, especially due to a lot of player association. For reference? These were the people who did the 4kids dub of ''Anime/{{Pokemon}}''.
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* SeinfeldIsUnfunny: The voice acting is seen as quite {{Narm}}y and the voice actors are seen as "Bad". However, at the time these were some of the only "Veteran" voice actors on the market ''period'' - as only people who did cartoons really "knew" how to voice act. What also didn't help was allegedly, they were only given one take and little to no direction - which for a video game was actually fairly common.
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Oh yeah. You recruit a lot of people to your party, some of which may end up being KilledOffForReal or PutOnABus.
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* ThatOneAttack: Bloodbane has two - his Death Sanction-Feel My Flame-Great Magic combo, almost guaranteed to knock someone out of the fight, and Gravity Blessing, almost guaranteed to inflict a TotalPartyKill. This is where Auto-Item Elixir/Union Plume and Guts switch from being a GameBreaker to being ''required''.
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Late Character Syndrome is not YMMV. Moved. Porting Disaster is for ports that are really bad. YMMV tropes cannot be Played With.
* DifficultySpike: Lezard's tower can be a wake-up call dungeon for most players who aim for Ending A or just want Mystina (since you will be forced to clear it in Chapter 4 as a prerequisite). Not only it is a confusing maze, but it's also filled to the brim with {{Demonic Spider}}s. On the plus side, after you've been through it once, it's a good place to come back to for some grinding.
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* LateCharacterSyndrome: Generally anyone you recruit later in the game is going to suffer from this. While there are often ways to buff them up, it might often be better to just stick to the people you got around the middle parts of the game.
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* PortingDisaster: Downplayed with the PSP port. While a solid port, it's based on the Japanese version of the UsefulNotes/PlayStation release, which lacks the improvements of the US [=PS1=] version, like generally streamlined menu and organization of your characters and items. Also, the anime-style cutscenes from the original were replaced with [=CGs=].
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** Lezard Valeth's tower and the Tombs of Amenti are [[IncrediblyLamePun Hel]] for their sheer length.
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** Lezard Valeth's tower and the Tombs of Amenti are [[IncrediblyLamePun Hel]] Hel for their sheer length.
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** In the Seraphic Gate, your party will most likely consist of nothing but sword users.
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* TooCoolToLive: Possibly an awkward name choice considering he's already dead when you can use him, but Lucian is both a very powerful fighter (with his only real flaw being a mediocre PWS) and very plot important. So naturally in order to get the best ending, you have to send him away almost immediately and [[spoiler:considering Loki betrays and kills him]], he is unusable even in the final dungeon unlike every other warrior you send to Valhalla (ignoring Lyseria, though that's due to a bug), only becoming available again in the post dungeon where he'll be HORRIBLY underleveled and likely soon replaced anyway by Brahms or Freya anyway.
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** For magic, you'll most likely only be using Firestorm (at first), [[DiscOneNuke Lightning Bolt]] (if you get Nanami early) and then Mystic Cross (once you get Lorenta) for the best great magic in the game, Celstial Stars. When you're not casting that, you'll be casting Might Reinforce and Sap Guard.
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* LateCharacterSyndrome: Generally anyone you recruit later in the game is going to suffer from this. While there are often ways to buff them up, it might often be better to just stick to the people you got around the middle parts of the game.
* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Oh yeah. You recruit a lot of people to your party, some of which may end up being KilledOffForReal or PutOnABus.
* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: Oh yeah. You recruit a lot of people to your party, some of which may end up being KilledOffForReal or PutOnABus.
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** It got to the point where an item in ''Anatomia'' that can only be used by Hrist, is named [[https://valkyrie-anatomia.fandom.com/wiki/%22How_to_Get_your_Own_Game%22 "How to Get your Own Game"]]. Yes, the makers are aware of Hrist's status and made an inside joke!
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** In ''Covenant of the Plume'', Hrist's appearance in the Seraphic Gate literally has her calling out Wyl as "stealing" her game from her, and one of her battle quotes is "Where is ''MY'' leading role?"
** It got to the point where an item in ''Anatomia'' that can only be used by Hrist, is named [[https://valkyrie-anatomia.fandom.com/wiki/%22How_to_Get_your_Own_Game%22 "How to Get your Own Game"]]. Yes, the makers are aware of Hrist's status and madean inside joke!it a RunningGag!
** It got to the point where an item in ''Anatomia'' that can only be used by Hrist, is named [[https://valkyrie-anatomia.fandom.com/wiki/%22How_to_Get_your_Own_Game%22 "How to Get your Own Game"]]. Yes, the makers are aware of Hrist's status and made
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* MagnificentBastard:
** [[spoiler:Loki]], who uses [[spoiler:Lucian]] as a scapegoat to conceal the theft of the Dragon Orb.
** Lezard Valeth. His entire plan to "obtain" Lenneth involves him manipulating gods, mortals ''and'' demons.
** [[spoiler:Loki]], who uses [[spoiler:Lucian]] as a scapegoat to conceal the theft of the Dragon Orb.
** Lezard Valeth. His entire plan to "obtain" Lenneth involves him manipulating gods, mortals ''and'' demons.
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* MemeticMutation: "Hrist still doesn't have her own game!"[[labelnote:Explanation]]A series-wide fan catchphrase or running joke to be exact. Ever since the release of ''VideoGame/ValkyrieProfile2Silmeria'', fans have expected that Hrist would get her own game as the starring role for the next ''VP'' game, much like the two Valkyries before her. But due to the release of ''Covenant'' and ''Anatomia'' (both of which do not feature Hrist as the protagonist), and the large {{Sequel Gap}}s of the series, Hrist fans only keep on hoping for her potiential game.[[/labelnote]]
** It got to the point where an item in ''Anatomia'' that can only be used by Hrist, is named [[https://valkyrie-anatomia.fandom.com/wiki/%22How_to_Get_your_Own_Game%22 "How to Get your Own Game"]]. Yes, the makers are aware of Hrist's status and made an inside joke!
** It got to the point where an item in ''Anatomia'' that can only be used by Hrist, is named [[https://valkyrie-anatomia.fandom.com/wiki/%22How_to_Get_your_Own_Game%22 "How to Get your Own Game"]]. Yes, the makers are aware of Hrist's status and made an inside joke!
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* TheUnTwist: Boy, how many times does the prologue and opening movie hint you that [[spoiler:Platina is reborn as Lenneth Valkyrie, and she's still Lucian's [[OfficialCouple official love interest]]]]?
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* PortingDisaster: Downplayed with the PSP port. While a solid port, it's based on the Japanese version of the UsefulNotes/PlayStation release, which lacks the improvements of the US [=PS1=] version, like generally streamlined menu and organization of your characters and items. Also, the anime-style cutscenes from the original where replaced with [=CGs=].
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* PortingDisaster: Downplayed with the PSP port. While a solid port, it's based on the Japanese version of the UsefulNotes/PlayStation release, which lacks the improvements of the US [=PS1=] version, like generally streamlined menu and organization of your characters and items. Also, the anime-style cutscenes from the original where were replaced with [=CGs=].
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* NightmareFuel: Jelanda's [[BodyHorror transformation into a ghoul]] in the PSP rerelease is ''horrifying'' to watch, especially with her screaming for help the whole time.
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** Jelanda's [[BodyHorror transformation into a ghoul]] in the PSP rerelease is ''horrifying'' to watch, especially with her screaming for help the whole time.
** Jelanda's [[BodyHorror transformation into a ghoul]] in the PSP rerelease is ''horrifying'' to watch, especially with her screaming for help the whole time.
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* FashionVictimVillain: Odin's outfit is commonly described by fans as grey pajamas.
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* FashionVictimVillain: In all of the first three main games, Odin's outfit is commonly described by fans as grey pajamas.pajamas. Many people have ascribed to calling him "[[FanNickname Grampa in Grey Pajamas]]".
