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* ConflictBall: After settling their differences in the series proper, Mumei and Ikoma pass this around in ''Unato Kessen''. Ikoma refuses to talk to her and snaps at her when the nobles refuse his plan, and she attempts to fight everything by herself and nearly gets killed. While the movie ends with them reconciling their differences and trusting each other (and explained away as being part of Unato's HatePlague), a lot of fans think that their relationship had taken a big step backwards for no real reason, since by the end of the first season they had learned to trust each other.
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%%** The ending theme, [[http://chiasenhac.com/mp3/japan/j-pop/ninelie-tv-size~aimer-chelly-egoist~1658250.html "ninelie"]], takes this up to eleven with a duet by EGOIST and [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks Aimer]], composed by Music/HiroyukiSawano, who are the closest thing to the DreamTeam of anime music here.
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%%** The ending theme, [[http://chiasenhac.com/mp3/japan/j-pop/ninelie-tv-size~aimer-chelly-egoist~1658250.html "ninelie"]], takes this up to eleven with a duet by EGOIST and [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks Aimer]], composed by Music/HiroyukiSawano, who are the closest thing to the DreamTeam of anime music here.Music/HiroyukiSawano.
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** The fanbase has taken to calling Enoku [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake]] for his secret agent antics and grizzled badass aura. And the fact that his advanced age and [[EyepatchOfPower eyepatch]] are very similar to Snake's appearance in ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]]''.
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** The fanbase has taken to calling Enoku [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake]] "Solid Snake"]] for his secret agent antics and grizzled badass aura. And the fact that his advanced age and [[EyepatchOfPower eyepatch]] are very similar to Snake's appearance in ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]]''.
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** The fanbase has taken to calling Enoku [[Franchise/MetalGear Solid Snake]] for his secret agent antics and grizzled badass aura. And the fact that his advanced age and [[EyepatchOfPower eyepatch]] are very similar to Snake's appearance in ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]]''.
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** The fanbase has taken to calling Enoku [[Franchise/MetalGear [[VideoGame/MetalGear Solid Snake]] for his secret agent antics and grizzled badass aura. And the fact that his advanced age and [[EyepatchOfPower eyepatch]] are very similar to Snake's appearance in ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]]''.
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%%** The ending theme, [[http://chiasenhac.com/mp3/japan/j-pop/ninelie-tv-size~aimer-chelly-egoist~1658250.html "ninelie"]], takes this UpToEleven with a duet by EGOIST and [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks Aimer]], composed by Music/HiroyukiSawano, who are the closest thing to the DreamTeam of anime music here.
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%%** The ending theme, [[http://chiasenhac.com/mp3/japan/j-pop/ninelie-tv-size~aimer-chelly-egoist~1658250.html "ninelie"]], takes this UpToEleven up to eleven with a duet by EGOIST and [[Anime/FateStayNightUnlimitedBladeWorks Aimer]], composed by Music/HiroyukiSawano, who are the closest thing to the DreamTeam of anime music here.
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* FanNickname:
** The show itself is already being called a variety of names, some popular ones being [[Manga/AttackOnTitan "Attack on Trains"]] and [[Film/SnakesOnAPlane "Zombies On a Train"]].
** Not to mention ''The Ultimate Bro'' for the extremely loyal Takumi.
** Or ''Mr. Maxwell Powers'' for Suzuki after [[Creator/MaxwellPowers his voice actor]]. Being unnamed till Episode 6 also helps.
** The fanbase has taken to calling Enoku [[Franchise/MetalGear Solid Snake]] for his secret agent antics and grizzled badass aura. And the fact that his advanced age and [[EyepatchOfPower eyepatch]] are very similar to Snake's appearance in ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]]''.
** Fans on Reddit have taken to calling Kurusu "Husband-kun," being considered a top-tier husbando.
** The show itself is already being called a variety of names, some popular ones being [[Manga/AttackOnTitan "Attack on Trains"]] and [[Film/SnakesOnAPlane "Zombies On a Train"]].
** Not to mention ''The Ultimate Bro'' for the extremely loyal Takumi.
** Or ''Mr. Maxwell Powers'' for Suzuki after [[Creator/MaxwellPowers his voice actor]]. Being unnamed till Episode 6 also helps.
** The fanbase has taken to calling Enoku [[Franchise/MetalGear Solid Snake]] for his secret agent antics and grizzled badass aura. And the fact that his advanced age and [[EyepatchOfPower eyepatch]] are very similar to Snake's appearance in ''[[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots MGS4]]''.
** Fans on Reddit have taken to calling Kurusu "Husband-kun," being considered a top-tier husbando.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Takumi, whom the fandom proclaimed [[FanNickname The Ultimate Bro]].
** Suzuki is an engineer with steampunk goggles and hair like a 19th century wig, voiced by an English speaking actor (giving him a prominent accent). He has not gone unnoticed by the fandom.
** Yukina as well, because of... [[http://i.imgur.com/rd5NmDf.gif well]], see MemeticMutation below.
** Kurusu's gotten a lot of love in terms of supporting characters, due to his solid design, his skills in battle and being a competent OnlySaneMan.
** Takumi, whom the fandom proclaimed [[FanNickname The Ultimate Bro]].
** Suzuki is an engineer with steampunk goggles and hair like a 19th century wig, voiced by an English speaking actor (giving him a prominent accent). He has not gone unnoticed by the fandom.
** Yukina as well, because of... [[http://i.imgur.com/rd5NmDf.gif well]], see MemeticMutation below.
** Kurusu's gotten a lot of love in terms of supporting characters, due to his solid design, his skills in battle and being a competent OnlySaneMan.
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** The first time a station is overrun by Kabane, it's extremely horrifying to see. By the third time? AMillionIsAStatistic isn't just the attitude in-universe, but outside it as well.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Takumi, whom the fandom proclaimed [[FanNickname The Ultimate Bro]].
** Suzuki is an engineer with steampunk goggles and hair like a 19th century wig, voiced by an English speaking actor (giving him a prominent accent). He has not gone unnoticed by the fandom.
** Yukina as well, because of... [[http://i.imgur.com/rd5NmDf.gif well]], see MemeticMutation below.
** Kurusu's gotten a lot of love in terms of supporting characters, due to his solid design, his skills in battle and being a competent OnlySaneMan.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Takumi, whom the fandom proclaimed [[FanNickname The Ultimate Bro]].
** Suzuki is an engineer with steampunk goggles and hair like a 19th century wig, voiced by an English speaking actor (giving him a prominent accent). He has not gone unnoticed by the fandom.
** Yukina as well, because of... [[http://i.imgur.com/rd5NmDf.gif well]], see MemeticMutation below.
** Kurusu's gotten a lot of love in terms of supporting characters, due to his solid design, his skills in battle and being a competent OnlySaneMan.
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** The first time a station is overrun by Kabane, it's extremely horrifying to see. By the third time? AMillionIsAStatistic isn't just the attitude in-universe, but outside it as well. \n* EnsembleDarkhorse: \n** Takumi, whom the fandom proclaimed [[FanNickname The Ultimate Bro]].\n** Suzuki is an engineer with steampunk goggles and hair like a 19th century wig, voiced by an English speaking actor (giving him a prominent accent). He has not gone unnoticed by the fandom.\n** Yukina as well, because of... [[http://i.imgur.com/rd5NmDf.gif well]], see MemeticMutation below.\n** Kurusu's gotten a lot of love in terms of supporting characters, due to his solid design, his skills in battle and being a competent OnlySaneMan.
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy:
** [[spoiler:ObviouslyEvil Biba versus his {{Jerkass}} Shogun of a father.]]
** The first time a station is overrun by Kabane, it's extremely horrifying to see. By the third time? AMillionIsAStatistic isn't just the attitude in-universe, but outside it as well.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Takumi, whom the fandom proclaimed [[FanNickname The Ultimate Bro]].
** Suzuki is an engineer with steampunk goggles and hair like a 19th century wig, voiced by an English speaking actor (giving him a prominent accent). He has not gone unnoticed by the fandom.
** Yukina as well, because of... [[http://i.imgur.com/rd5NmDf.gif well]], see MemeticMutation below.
** Kurusu's gotten a lot of love in terms of supporting characters, due to his solid design, his skills in battle and being a competent OnlySaneMan.
** [[spoiler:ObviouslyEvil Biba versus his {{Jerkass}} Shogun of a father.]]
** The first time a station is overrun by Kabane, it's extremely horrifying to see. By the third time? AMillionIsAStatistic isn't just the attitude in-universe, but outside it as well.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Takumi, whom the fandom proclaimed [[FanNickname The Ultimate Bro]].
** Suzuki is an engineer with steampunk goggles and hair like a 19th century wig, voiced by an English speaking actor (giving him a prominent accent). He has not gone unnoticed by the fandom.
** Yukina as well, because of... [[http://i.imgur.com/rd5NmDf.gif well]], see MemeticMutation below.
** Kurusu's gotten a lot of love in terms of supporting characters, due to his solid design, his skills in battle and being a competent OnlySaneMan.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The show received major backlash for being a rip-off of ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' since both were produced by the same studio (at least the first 3 seasons), and director, and producer, with the plot being extremely similar (terrifying man-eating creatures, humanity living behind walls, a Hot-Blooded protagonist who becomes half-monster half-human, a very strong female lead fighting beside him, etc.). The fact that both shows have a character voiced by Kaji Yūki – as mentioned above – doesn't help, as well. However, there are still many people who enjoyed the show and its characters and didn't mind the similarities at all.
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* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The show received major backlash for being a rip-off of ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' since both were produced by the same studio (at least the first 3 seasons), and director, and producer, with the plot being extremely similar (terrifying man-eating creatures, humanity living behind walls, a Hot-Blooded protagonist who becomes half-monster half-human, a very strong female lead fighting beside him, etc.). The fact that both shows have a character voiced by Kaji Yūki – as mentioned above – doesn't help, as well. However, there are still many people who enjoyed the show and its characters and didn't mind the similarities at all.all.
* TooBleakStoppedCaring:
** [[spoiler:ObviouslyEvil Biba versus his {{Jerkass}} Shogun of a father.]]
** The first time a station is overrun by Kabane, it's extremely horrifying to see. By the third time? AMillionIsAStatistic isn't just the attitude in-universe, but outside it as well.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Takumi, whom the fandom proclaimed [[FanNickname The Ultimate Bro]].
** Suzuki is an engineer with steampunk goggles and hair like a 19th century wig, voiced by an English speaking actor (giving him a prominent accent). He has not gone unnoticed by the fandom.
** Yukina as well, because of... [[http://i.imgur.com/rd5NmDf.gif well]], see MemeticMutation below.
** Kurusu's gotten a lot of love in terms of supporting characters, due to his solid design, his skills in battle and being a competent OnlySaneMan.
* TooBleakStoppedCaring:
** [[spoiler:ObviouslyEvil Biba versus his {{Jerkass}} Shogun of a father.]]
** The first time a station is overrun by Kabane, it's extremely horrifying to see. By the third time? AMillionIsAStatistic isn't just the attitude in-universe, but outside it as well.
* EnsembleDarkhorse:
** Takumi, whom the fandom proclaimed [[FanNickname The Ultimate Bro]].
** Suzuki is an engineer with steampunk goggles and hair like a 19th century wig, voiced by an English speaking actor (giving him a prominent accent). He has not gone unnoticed by the fandom.
** Yukina as well, because of... [[http://i.imgur.com/rd5NmDf.gif well]], see MemeticMutation below.
** Kurusu's gotten a lot of love in terms of supporting characters, due to his solid design, his skills in battle and being a competent OnlySaneMan.
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** In the movie, the scene of [[spoiler:Mumei stealing a kiss from Ikoma.]] It generally evokes two reactions, the {{Squee}} of those who ship them and the NoYay of those who point out [[spoiler:she's oficially twelve (and not a particularly mature twelve years old) while he's seventeen.]]
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** In the movie, the scene of [[spoiler:Mumei stealing a kiss from Ikoma.]] It generally evokes two reactions, the {{Squee}} of those who ship them and the NoYay of those who point out [[spoiler:she's oficially officially twelve (and not a particularly mature twelve years old) while he's seventeen.]]
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* ArcFatigue: Inverted. As put in pretty much every review, one of the main flaws of ''Kabaneri'' was how rushed and compressed its story felt due to the short length of the series, which was also noted to have [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot prevented the makers from truly exploring the setting]] despite all the work that had been obviously put on creating and elaborating it. Some reviewers even commented that it looked like the producers had tried to compress a storyline meant for 24 episodes into half that length.
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* ConflictBall: After settling their differences in the series proper, Mumei and Ikoma pass this around in ''Unato Kessen''. Ikoma refuses to talk to her and snaps at her when the nobles refuse his plan, and she attempts to fight everything by herself and nearly gets killed. While the movie ends with them reconciling their differences and trusting each other (and explained away as being part of Unato's HatePlague), a lot of fans think that their relationship took a big step backwards for no real reason, since by the end of the first season they had learned to trust each other.
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* ConflictBall: After settling their differences in the series proper, Mumei and Ikoma pass this around in ''Unato Kessen''. Ikoma refuses to talk to her and snaps at her when the nobles refuse his plan, and she attempts to fight everything by herself and nearly gets killed. While the movie ends with them reconciling their differences and trusting each other (and explained away as being part of Unato's HatePlague), a lot of fans think that their relationship took had taken a big step backwards for no real reason, since by the end of the first season they had learned to trust each other.
* ItsShortSoItSucks: As put in pretty much every review, one of the main flaws of ''Kabaneri'' was how rushed and compressed its story feels due to the short length of the series, which was also noted to have [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot prevented the makers from truly exploring the setting]] despite all the work that had been obviously put on creating and elaborating it. Some reviewers even commented that it looked like the producers had tried to compress a storyline meant for 24 episodes into half that length.
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* {{Squick}}: [[spoiler:Mumei kissing Ikoma, at least on the basis they are respectively twelve and seventeen. Oddly, given that her character design makes her look significantly older than that, one has to wonder whether the producers shouldn't have simply given Mumei a canonical age closer to Ikoma's in order to avoid the squick if they wanted to pair them all along.]]
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* {{Squick}}: [[spoiler:Mumei kissing Ikoma, at least on the basis they are respectively twelve 12 and seventeen. Oddly, given 17. Given that her Mumei's character design makes her look significantly older than that, her canonical age, one has to wonder whether the producers shouldn't have simply given Mumei a canonical her an age closer to Ikoma's in order to avoid the squick if they wanted to pair them all along.]]
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* HilariousInHindsight: Takumi is Ikoma's good friend and voice of reason. So it's pretty funny with all the comparison to ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' to find out he shares Eren's [[Creator/YuukiKaji voice actor]]. Even more hilarious with the release of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', which also features a character named Takumi voiced by [[Creator/YūkiKaji]] who lives in a fantasy version of feudal Japan.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Takumi is Ikoma's good friend and voice of reason. So it's pretty funny with all the comparison to ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' to find out he shares Eren's [[Creator/YuukiKaji voice actor]]. Even more hilarious with the release of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', which also features a character named Takumi voiced by [[Creator/YūkiKaji]] Creator/YukiKaji who lives in a fantasy version of feudal Japan.
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* FandomRivalry: With ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' for [[FollowTheLeader obvious reasons]], but it escalated ''big time'' when [=AoT=]'s 2nd season was revealed to only be 12 episodes long (keep in mind fans have been waiting for an S2 for four years). [=AoT=] fans have blamed ''Kabaneri'' for this as Wit Studio already announced a 2nd season of ''Kabaneri'' was due in 2018, and are rather bitter that a supposed "inferior ''Titan'' clone" is getting a second season far faster than the "original" series did. Fortunately the hate train died down a bit when ''Titan's'' third season was announced to be released on 2018 too. It eventually turned out that there was no second season at all: the ''Kabaneri'' project scheduled for 2018 turned out to be a mobile game, followed up by the 3-episode mini-series ''The Battle of Unato'' which released in May 2019.
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* FandomRivalry: With ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' for [[FollowTheLeader [[TheyCopiedItSoItSucks obvious reasons]], but it escalated ''big time'' when [=AoT=]'s 2nd season was revealed to only be 12 episodes long (keep in mind fans have been waiting for an S2 for four years). [=AoT=] fans have blamed ''Kabaneri'' for this as Wit Studio already announced a 2nd season of ''Kabaneri'' was due in 2018, and are rather bitter that a supposed "inferior ''Titan'' clone" is getting a second season far faster than the "original" series did. Fortunately the hate train died down a bit when ''Titan's'' [=AoT=]'s third season was announced to be released on 2018 too. It eventually turned out that there was no second season at all: the ''Kabaneri'' project scheduled for 2018 turned out to be a mobile game, followed up by the 3-episode mini-series ''The Battle of Unato'' which released in May 2019.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Takumi is Ikoma's good friend and voice of reason. So it's pretty funny with all the comparison to ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' to find out he shares Eren's [[Creator/YuukiKaji voice actor]]. Even more hilarious with the release of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', which also features a character named Takumi voiced by Yuuki Kaji who lives in a fantasy version of feudal Japan.
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: As mentioned above, much of the initial hype about the show quickly faded once its similarities to ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' became obvious.
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: As mentioned above, much of the initial hype about the show quickly faded once its similarities to ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' became obvious.
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* HilariousInHindsight: Takumi is Ikoma's good friend and voice of reason. So it's pretty funny with all the comparison to ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' to find out he shares Eren's [[Creator/YuukiKaji voice actor]]. Even more hilarious with the release of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'', which also features a character named Takumi voiced by Yuuki Kaji [[Creator/YūkiKaji]] who lives in a fantasy version of feudal Japan.
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: As mentioned above, much of the initial hype about the show quickly faded once its similarities to ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' became obvious.Japan.
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: As mentioned above, much of the initial hype about the show quickly faded once its similarities to ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' became obvious.
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** The same nobles' soldiers later threaten to shoot Ikoma when he temporarily succumbs to his thirst. While they are portrayed as ungrateful bastards to the Kabaneri, they are right in that Ikoma basically turned into a Kabane in the middle of the town and could have started an outbreak right then and there if he didn't turn back. Their willingness to shoot him is somewhat justified.
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** The same nobles' soldiers later threaten to shoot Ikoma when he temporarily succumbs to his thirst. While they are portrayed as ungrateful bastards to the Kabaneri, they are right in that Ikoma basically turned into a Kabane in the middle of the town and could have started an outbreak right then and there if he didn't turn back. Their willingness to shoot him is somewhat justified.justified.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The show received major backlash for being a rip-off of ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' since both were produced by the same studio (at least the first 3 seasons), and director, and producer, with the plot being extremely similar (terrifying man-eating creatures, humanity living behind walls, a Hot-Blooded protagonist who becomes half-monster half-human, a very strong female lead fighting beside him, etc.). The fact that both shows have a character voiced by Kaji Yūki – as mentioned above – doesn't help, as well. However, there are still many people who enjoyed the show and its characters and didn't mind the similarities at all.
* TheyCopiedItSoItSucks: The show received major backlash for being a rip-off of ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' since both were produced by the same studio (at least the first 3 seasons), and director, and producer, with the plot being extremely similar (terrifying man-eating creatures, humanity living behind walls, a Hot-Blooded protagonist who becomes half-monster half-human, a very strong female lead fighting beside him, etc.). The fact that both shows have a character voiced by Kaji Yūki – as mentioned above – doesn't help, as well. However, there are still many people who enjoyed the show and its characters and didn't mind the similarities at all.