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* When Zak makes his confession that the humans are destroying the forest and he was helping them. He states that Batty was right about humans and you can see that Batty ''really'' did not want to be.

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* ** When Zak makes his confession that the humans are destroying the forest and he was helping them. He states that [[TheCuckoolanderWasRight Batty was right right]] about humans and you can see that Batty ''really'' really did not want to be.
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* When Zak makes his confession that the humans are destroying the forest and he was helping them. He states that Batty was right about humans and you can see that Batty ''really'' did not want to be.
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** Crysta and Magi conversing by a tree stump. When Crysta touches it, she looks like she's being burned. Magi comments on how this is beyond her powers and you can tell she's dangerously close to the DespairEventHorizon. When Crysta sees a familiar red stain on what's left of the tree, she flies above the canopy and sees that the wonderful sight from before has been replaced by a post-apocalyptic setting. She then notices some humans carrying what's left of the trees away.
--> '''Crysta:'''Humans did it...humans did it all.
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** NarmCharm: For some, it still manages to be pretty sad.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Many watchers sympathize with [[BigBad Hexxus]], who for the record is the incarnation of pollution in a heavily {{Anvilicious}} cartoon about how life is precious and pollution evil. That's what you get for casting Creator/TimCurry as your main villain and utterly forgettable main characters otherwise (save for comic relief [[Creator/RobinWilliams Batty]]).

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* RootingForTheEmpire: Many watchers sympathize with [[BigBad Hexxus]], who for the record is the incarnation of pollution in a heavily {{Anvilicious}} cartoon about how life is precious and pollution evil. That's He's an abomination whose end game is to ''[[OmnicidalManiac kill all life]]'', but that's what you get for casting Creator/TimCurry as your main villain and utterly forgettable main characters otherwise (save for comic relief [[Creator/RobinWilliams Batty]]).
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* DracoInLeatherPants[=/=]EvilIsCool[=/=]EvilIsSexy: How many fans feel about Hexxus. This is what happens when you make the villain more likable and entertaining than the rest of the cast. So much so that it's resulted in an accidental BrokenAesop; Hexxus is so much cooler than all the other characters he actually makes you root against the protagonists, and Toxic Love makes pollution seem so awesome it's probably responsible for spawning an entire generation of future Captain Planet villains.

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* DracoInLeatherPants[=/=]EvilIsCool[=/=]EvilIsSexy: How many fans feel about Hexxus. This is what happens when you make the villain more likable and entertaining than the rest of the cast.cast (and have him voiced by Creator/TimCurry). So much so that it's resulted in an accidental BrokenAesop; Hexxus is so much cooler than all the other characters he actually makes you root against the protagonists, and Toxic Love makes pollution seem so awesome it's probably responsible for spawning an entire generation of future Captain Planet villains.
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*** One line from the uncensored version has a doctor directing people to ''remove Batty's skull cap''. Just ''what'' were they doing to him!?
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-->''"I don't care what you think you're a graduate student...JUST DO IT!!!"''
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** Batty's [[DarkAndTroubledPast backstory]]. Poor guy.


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* VisualEffectsOfAwesome: The one thing in the movie that is unanimously agreed to be positive.
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* RootingForTheEmpire: Many watchers sympathize with [[BigBad Hexxus]], who for the record is the incarnation of pollution in a heavily {{Anvilicious}} cartoon about how life is precious and pollution evil. That's what you get for casting Creator/TimCurry as your main villain and utterly forgettable main characters otherwise (save for comic relief [[Creator/RobinWilliams Batty]]).
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Yep, so needless that it doesn\'t need to be here.


* {{Narm}}: The kangaroo mother's SkywardScream in the second movie, where she drops to her knees while surrounded by flames and shouts "MY BAAAAAAABYYYYYYYY!!" The overly dramatic moment comes out of nowhere, and just looks silly with a cartoon kangaroo. Needless to say WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic had a bit of fun with it in his review.

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* {{Narm}}: The kangaroo mother's SkywardScream in the second movie, where she drops to her knees while surrounded by flames and shouts "MY BAAAAAAABYYYYYYYY!!" The overly dramatic moment comes out of nowhere, and just looks silly with a cartoon kangaroo. Needless to say WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic had a bit of fun with it in his review.
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* {{Narm}}: The kangaroo mother's SkywardScream in the second movie, where she drops to her knees while surrounded by flames and shouts "MY BAAAAAAABYYYYYYYY!!" The overly dramatic moment comes out of nowhere, and just looks silly with a cartoon kangaroo. Needless to say WebVideo/TheNostalgiaCritic had a bit of fun with it in his review.
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* AllAnimationIsDisney: Tends to fall victim to it quite a bit. Yeah, it does look that good.
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** Crysta restoring Zack to his normal size as it's very likely they'll never meet again. This troper was in tears when it happened.

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** Crysta restoring Zack to his normal size as it's very likely they'll never meet again. This troper was in tears when it happened.
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** Crysta restoring Zack to his normal size. It's very likely they'll never meet again. This troper was in tears when it happened.

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** Crysta restoring Zack to his normal size. It's size as it's very likely they'll never meet again. This troper was in tears when it happened.
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** Crysta restoring Zack to his normal size. It's very likely they'll never meet again. This troper was in tears when it happened.
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* EnsembleDarkhorse: C'mon, take a wild guess.
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*** The most disturbing thing about the song is that what the scientific study was about [[NothingIsScarier is unclear]]. Several parts imply cosmetic chemical testing, but the wires and several other things imply [[ForTheEvulz seemingly pointless mutilation]].

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*** The most disturbing thing about the song is that what the scientific study was about [[NothingIsScarier is unclear]]. Several parts imply cosmetic chemical testing, but the wires and several other things imply [[ForTheEvulz seemingly pointless mutilation]].mutilation]], and one particular line directly states that it was performed by ''graduate students'', with moral objections no less.
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*** The most disturbing thing about the song is that what the scientific study was about [[NothingIsScarier is unclear]]. Several parts imply cosmetic chemical testing, but the wires and several other things imply [[ForTheEvulz seemingly pointless mutilation]].
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** Oh yeah and make one of the least likeable characters in the first film the main character and sideline the heroine of the first movie for most of it. [[SarcasmMode Where can you go wrong with that?]]
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** A Dream Worth Keeping is a far more unpleasant, though fairly common earworm from the first movie.

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* EarWorm: "Yo, the name is Batty. The logic is errat-" NO! NO! Rapping is annoying enough without Robin Williams being the rapper.
** Too bad, it's now forever embedded in your mind whether you like it or not.
** That was (and still is) the best part of the movie for this troper. Whether this says more about me or the movie is up to you.[[note]]Definitely the movie. Outdone by Robin Williams trying to rap? For shame.[[/note]]
** I don't know about you guys, but this troper can never get Toxic Love out of her head for ''weeks'' after listening to it ''once.''
** "If I'm gonna eat somebody/It might as well be-" No! No!

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* EarWorm: "Yo, the name is Batty. The logic is errat-" NO! NO! Rapping is annoying enough without Robin Williams being the rapper.
** Too bad, it's now forever embedded
Pretty much every song in your mind whether you like it or not.
** That was (and still is) the best part of the movie for this troper. Whether this says more about me or the movie is up to you.[[note]]Definitely
the movie. Outdone by Robin Williams trying to rap? For shame.[[/note]]
** I don't know about you guys, but this troper can never get
Toxic Love stands out because of her head for ''weeks'' after listening to it ''once.''
** "If I'm gonna eat somebody/It might as well be-" No! No!
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Because of his insanity, whenever Batty Koda 'switches channels' he's clearly hallucinating in some form. The 'acid' parts of the "Batty Rap" could be interpreted as him seeing things, hearing voices in his head and speaking to himself.

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Because of his insanity, whenever Batty Koda 'switches channels' he's clearly hallucinating in some form. The 'acid' parts of the "Batty Rap" could be interpreted as him seeing things, hearing voices in his head and speaking to himself.
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* TheWoobie: Batty Koda, especially taking into account the experiments he went through.

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* TheWoobie: Batty Koda, especially taking into account the experiments he went through.through.

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** Also Pips in the second film. Supposed to save young animals from poachers? Go off and screw around human culture while the weakest of your gang and a insane (but oddly OnlySaneMan) bat go and try do it themselves. This is seen as extremely selfish of Pips but we also see that he simply can't focus on the mission and is distracted by a world he's never seen or thought of before. Admit it, [[FridgeBrilliance imagine if a human was thrown into a different culture or lifestyle that interested them.]]

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** Also Pips in the second film. Supposed to save young animals from poachers? Go off and screw around human culture while the weakest of your gang and a insane (but oddly OnlySaneMan) bat go and try do it themselves. This is seen as extremely selfish of Pips but we also see that he simply can't focus on the mission and is distracted by a world he's never seen or thought of before. Admit it, [[FridgeBrilliance imagine if a human was thrown into a different culture or lifestyle that interested them.]]]] That or he has [[AttentionDeficitOohShiny ADD]].

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Much less creepy this way.


* DracoInLeatherPants[=/=]EvilIsCool[=/=]EvilIsSexy: How many fans feel about Hexxus. This is what happens when you make the villain more sexy than any other member of the cast. And then cast TimCurry to play him and let him sing.
** Hexxus, just as a friendly reminder, is a sentient cloud of toxic waste who wants to [[OmnicidalManiac kill every living thing]]. What's ''wrong'' with people?

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* DracoInLeatherPants[=/=]EvilIsCool[=/=]EvilIsSexy: How many fans feel about Hexxus. This is what happens when you make the villain more sexy likable and entertaining than any other member the rest of the cast. And then cast TimCurry to play him So much so that it's resulted in an accidental BrokenAesop; Hexxus is so much cooler than all the other characters he actually makes you root against the protagonists, and let him sing.
** Hexxus, just as a friendly reminder, is a sentient cloud
Toxic Love makes pollution seem so awesome it's probably responsible for spawning an entire generation of toxic waste who wants to [[OmnicidalManiac kill every living thing]]. What's ''wrong'' with people?future Captain Planet villains.
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** Also Pips in the second film. Supposed to save young animals from poachers? Go off and screw around human culture while the weakest of your gang and a insane (but oddly [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Man]]) bat go and try do it themselves. This is seen as extremely selfish of Pips but we also see that he simply can't focus on the mission and is distracted by a world he's never seen or thought of before. Admit it, [[FridgeBrilliance imagine if a human was thrown into a different culture or lifestyle that interested them.]]

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** Also Pips in the second film. Supposed to save young animals from poachers? Go off and screw around human culture while the weakest of your gang and a insane (but oddly [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Man]]) OnlySaneMan) bat go and try do it themselves. This is seen as extremely selfish of Pips but we also see that he simply can't focus on the mission and is distracted by a world he's never seen or thought of before. Admit it, [[FridgeBrilliance imagine if a human was thrown into a different culture or lifestyle that interested them.]]



* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The scene with the goanna singing rather erotically about eating Zak.[[hottip:*:Fun fact: The internet made this movie the TropeCodifier.]]

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* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The scene with the goanna singing rather erotically about eating Zak.[[hottip:*:Fun [[note]]Fun fact: The internet made this movie the TropeCodifier.]][[/note]]



** That was (and still is) the best part of the movie for this troper. Whether this says more about me or the movie is up to you.[[hottip:*:Definitely the movie. Outdone by Robin Williams trying to rap? For shame.]]

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** That was (and still is) the best part of the movie for this troper. Whether this says more about me or the movie is up to you.[[hottip:*:Definitely [[note]]Definitely the movie. Outdone by Robin Williams trying to rap? For shame.]][[/note]]



* MisaimedFandom: Hexxus has a huge following. Just read the comments for "Toxic Love" on YouTube. [[{{Pantheon/Nature}} He even made it to the Pantheon]]. But this is what happens when you let TimCurry do speaking ''and'' singing parts for your villain character; he just might become an AntiRoleModel.

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* MisaimedFandom: Hexxus has a huge following. Just read the comments for "Toxic Love" on YouTube. [[{{Pantheon/Nature}} Website/YouTube. [[Pantheon/{{Nature}} He even made it to the Pantheon]]. But this is what happens when you let TimCurry do speaking ''and'' singing parts for your villain character; he just might become an AntiRoleModel.
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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Okay, so the movie was a little poorly conceived on the whole... but Batty and his rap are generally considered to be a legitimately good message because, in the decade prior to the film's release, a lot of the stuff portrayed in the rap ''was done'' to animals in testing (look up the Mary Kay Corporation's history of animal testing sometime - or don't, [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel if you have a weak stomach]]).

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* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Okay, so the movie was a little poorly conceived on the whole... but Batty and his rap are generally considered to be a legitimately good message because, in the decade prior to the film's release, a lot of the stuff portrayed in the rap ''was done'' to animals in testing (look up the Mary Kay Corporation's history of animal testing sometime - or don't, [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel [[NightmareFuel if you have a weak stomach]]).
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* AdaptationDisplacement: Very few people realize this movie was based on a book by Diana Young.
* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Because of his insanity, whenever Batty Koda 'switches channels' he's clearly hallucinating in some form. The 'acid' parts of the "Batty Rap" could be interpreted as him seeing things, hearing voices in his head and speaking to himself.
** Also Pips in the second film. Supposed to save young animals from poachers? Go off and screw around human culture while the weakest of your gang and a insane (but oddly [[OnlySaneMan Only Sane Man]]) bat go and try do it themselves. This is seen as extremely selfish of Pips but we also see that he simply can't focus on the mission and is distracted by a world he's never seen or thought of before. Admit it, [[FridgeBrilliance imagine if a human was thrown into a different culture or lifestyle that interested them.]]
* {{Anvilicious}}: Even the RobinWilliams character spouts off morals!
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: The scene with the goanna singing rather erotically about eating Zak.[[hottip:*:Fun fact: The internet made this movie the TropeCodifier.]]
* SugarWiki/CrowningMusicOfAwesome: The movie's score, especially when the spirits of the trees are summoned and when the rainforest is restored by the seed of light.
* DesignatedHero: Pips in the DTV sequel.
* DracoInLeatherPants[=/=]EvilIsCool[=/=]EvilIsSexy: How many fans feel about Hexxus. This is what happens when you make the villain more sexy than any other member of the cast. And then cast TimCurry to play him and let him sing.
** Hexxus, just as a friendly reminder, is a sentient cloud of toxic waste who wants to [[OmnicidalManiac kill every living thing]]. What's ''wrong'' with people?
* EarWorm: "Yo, the name is Batty. The logic is errat-" NO! NO! Rapping is annoying enough without Robin Williams being the rapper.
** Too bad, it's now forever embedded in your mind whether you like it or not.
** That was (and still is) the best part of the movie for this troper. Whether this says more about me or the movie is up to you.[[hottip:*:Definitely the movie. Outdone by Robin Williams trying to rap? For shame.]]
** I don't know about you guys, but this troper can never get Toxic Love out of her head for ''weeks'' after listening to it ''once.''
** "If I'm gonna eat somebody/It might as well be-" No! No!
** From the sequel, "Here in [=FernGully=]".
* HoYayShipping: Zak/Pips is a very popular pairing.
* IdiotPlot: The sequel. There's always something distracting the main characters from their goal (other than Batty, who is the OnlySaneMan).
* MagnificentBastard: Hexxus, a good example of why you should ''not'' make your AntiRoleModel a charismatic character.
* MisaimedFandom: Hexxus has a huge following. Just read the comments for "Toxic Love" on YouTube. [[{{Pantheon/Nature}} He even made it to the Pantheon]]. But this is what happens when you let TimCurry do speaking ''and'' singing parts for your villain character; he just might become an AntiRoleModel.
* NightmareFuel: Hexxus - ''especially'' towards the end.
** Listen to the full version of "Batty Rap" and let your imagination wander as to what Batty Koda must have been through in that lab.
** "They used and abused me, Battered and bruised me, Red wires green wires stuck em' right '''through''' me!"
*** The scene where Batty sings that line about the wires always freaks this troper out. It's only about 5 seconds, but you see the wires glow under his skin, and he's making a motion like he's trying to rip them out (or slash his own wrist.)
* {{Sequelitis}}: Take a baseline of ''Ferngully'', then add the general degradation afforded to your average direct-to-video sequel, ''then'' remove the two things that were at all worthwhile in the first movie (a.k.a the voicework of "Tim Curry" and/or "Robin Williams"), add some horrendously cheesy musical numbers and you have a case of sequelitis with only one sequel.
* SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped: Okay, so the movie was a little poorly conceived on the whole... but Batty and his rap are generally considered to be a legitimately good message because, in the decade prior to the film's release, a lot of the stuff portrayed in the rap ''was done'' to animals in testing (look up the Mary Kay Corporation's history of animal testing sometime - or don't, [[HighOctaneNightmareFuel if you have a weak stomach]]).
** Hell, the rap was ''censored'' in the theatrical cut because some of it was just too gruesome for a G rating, and it ''still'' squicked people out. In the uncensored song you can clearly hear the fairies gasping in horror as Batty tells them what humans have done to him, and his own screams in the background, most likely as memories.
** ''[=FernGully=]'' tends to get some credit for inspiring some of the animal rights legislation later in the decade (having the bat voiced by RobinWilliams undoubtedly helped).
* TearJerker: Magi Lune's last words before she dies/[[EverythingFades fades away.]] Especially how she sounds... so grandmotherly.
-->''I love you, Crysta...''
* UnfortunateImplications: Oh lordy, ''lots''. To start with, there's the fact that the fairies live in the Australian rainforest... and only know about ''white'' humans. There are no aboriginals, a people they'd presumably be in touch with, to be found anywhere.
** And for that matter, why are the fairies themselves ''white?'' Fairies in European settings don't look like ''aboriginals.'' (Usually.)
** The style of the graphics in the intro, at least, implies that the original human inhabitants of Fergullly, the ones that fled Hexxus, were aboriginal. Since all that's left of them are some legends and (apparently) cave paintings, which are both abstract at best, there's not much indicator of physical appearance and skin colour for the fairies apart from "they looked a bit like us, just much bigger". As for the fairies' skin, well, they do spend nearly all their time under the shade of the canopy, being forest creatures. High melanin content is a trait of apes with open-air living and lots of sun somwhere in their recent ancestry.
* UglyCute: Batty Koda.
* TheWoobie: Batty Koda, especially taking into account the experiments he went through.

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