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* SuspiciouslySimilarSong:
** "Galatea" and "Oil" of the album ''From the 13th Sun'' are almost identical in composition: quiet intros and verses, then the heavy guitar parts kicking in with the singer repeating the catch lines ("My peace of mind" and "I wait for the oil" respectively) until the song fades out. Probably the similarity is why "Galatea" is on the album and "Oil" was relegated to the ranks of bonus tracks not widely circulated until the reissue almost ten years later.
** "Tot" (1999's ''From the 13th Sun'') and "Hammer of Doom" (2009's ''Death Magic Doom'') are also very similar, though both seem to be inspired by [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath's eponymous song]]. It could be argued that on most Candlemass albums at least since 1998, the second song is a slow and heavy plodder.
** "Galatea" and "Oil" of the album ''From the 13th Sun'' are almost identical in composition: quiet intros and verses, then the heavy guitar parts kicking in with the singer repeating the catch lines ("My peace of mind" and "I wait for the oil" respectively) until the song fades out. Probably the similarity is why "Galatea" is on the album and "Oil" was relegated to the ranks of bonus tracks not widely circulated until the reissue almost ten years later.
** "Tot" (1999's ''From the 13th Sun'') and "Hammer of Doom" (2009's ''Death Magic Doom'') are also very similar, though both seem to be inspired by [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath's eponymous song]]. It could be argued that on most Candlemass albums at least since 1998, the second song is a slow and heavy plodder.
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: The Candlemass fanbase is maybe not as divided with regards to different singers (and the albums recorded with their participation) as the one for [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath]]... But there's widespread derision heaped upon the two albums done with Björn Flodkvist (not helped by the fact that none of the members from earlier lineups, except of course Leif Edling, were on these albums either), and maybe even "Chapter VI", which is often panned as being [[LighterAndSofter a departure from the band's trademark doom sound]]. The Flodkvist-era albums really have a different sound as well, "Dactylis Glomerata" being closer to StonerMetal - with lots of spacey synths on top - than the Epic Doom most people have come to expect from Candlemass, and "From the 13th Sun" a blatant worship of (very) early [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath]]. There was also the added complication of Leif Edling semi-disowning the two late 90s albums in interviews and refusing to play songs from them after the reunion with Messiah, even though his other band Krux did play "Abstrakt Sun" from "Dactylis Glomerate"... for the few times they did perform live, anyway. Thomas Vikström was invited to play on the anniversary gig in 2007, and performed three songs from "Chapter VI" (then, the band did sometimes perform "The Dying Illusion" with Mats Levén at the mic), but Flodkvist was not, and that era remains ignored.
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: The Candlemass fanbase is maybe not as divided with regards to different singers (and the albums recorded with their participation) as the one for [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath]]... But there's widespread derision heaped upon the two albums done with Björn Flodkvist (not helped by the fact that none of the members from earlier lineups, except of course Leif Edling, were on these albums either), and maybe even "Chapter VI", which is often panned as being [[LighterAndSofter a departure from the band's trademark doom sound]]. The Flodkvist-era albums really have a different sound as well, "Dactylis Glomerata" being closer to StonerMetal - with lots of spacey synths on top - than the Epic Doom most people have come to expect from Candlemass, and "From the 13th Sun" a blatant worship of (very) early [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath]]. There was also the added complication of Leif Edling semi-disowning the two late 90s albums in interviews and refusing to play songs from them after the reunion with Messiah, even though his other band Krux did play "Abstrakt Sun" from "Dactylis Glomerate"...Glomerata"... for the few times they did perform live, anyway. Thomas Vikström was invited to play on the anniversary gig in 2007, and performed three songs from "Chapter VI" (then, the band did sometimes perform "The Dying Illusion" with Mats Levén at the mic), but Flodkvist was not, and that era remains ignored.
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: The Candlemass fanbase is maybe not as divided with regards to different singers (and the albums recorded with their participation) as the one for [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath]]... But there's widespread derision heaped upon the two albums done with Björn Flodkvist (not helped by the fact that none of the members from earlier lineups, except of course Leif Edling, were on these albums either), and maybe even "Chapter VI", which is often panned as being [[LighterAndSofter a departure from the band's trademark doom sound]]. The Flodkvist-era albums really have a different sound as well, "Dactylis Glomerata" being closer to StonerMetal - with lots of spacey synths on top - than the Epic Doom most people have come to expect from Candlemass, and "From the 13th Sun" a blatant worship of (very) early [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath]]. There was also the added complication of Leif Edling semi-disowning the two late 90s albums in interviews and refusing to play songs from them after the reunion with Messiah, even though his other band Krux did play "Abstrakt Sun" from "Dactylis Glomerate"... for the few times they did perform live, anyway. Thomas Vikström was invited to play on the anniversary gig in 2007, and performed three songs from "Chapter VI" (then, the band did sometimes perform "The Dying Illusion" with Mats Levén at the mic), but Flodkvist was not, and that era remains ignored.
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* AudienceAlienatingEra: The Candlemass fanbase is maybe not as divided with regards to different singers (and the albums recorded with their participation) as the one for [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath]]... But there's widespread derision heaped upon the two albums done with Björn Flodkvist (not helped by the fact that none of the members from earlier lineups, except of course Leif Edling, were on these albums either), and maybe even "Chapter VI", which is often panned as being [[LighterAndSofter a departure from the band's trademark doom sound]]. The Flodkvist-era albums really have a different sound as well, "Dactylis Glomerata" being closer to StonerMetal - with lots of spacey synths on top - than the Epic Doom most people have come to expect from Candlemass, and "From the 13th Sun" a blatant worship of (very) early [[Music/BlackSabbath Black Sabbath]].
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mats Leven. He was either just as good, if not better than Rob Lowe with the added benefit of being a far more consistent live performer and having a far better working relationship with Edling, or he was a great vocalist who was in the wrong band and was hired less because he was the best man for the job and more because Edling wanted someone who was professional and easy to work with.
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: Mats Leven. Levén. He was either just as good, if not better than Rob Lowe with the added benefit of being a far more consistent live performer and having a far better working relationship with Edling, or he was a great vocalist who was in the wrong band and was hired less because he was the best man for the job and more because Edling wanted someone who was professional and easy to work with.with.
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Messiah suddenly shouting "The mother of life is a whore!" at the end of the chorus in "Spellbreaker".
* BigLippedAlligatorMoment: Messiah suddenly shouting "The mother of life is a whore!" at the end of the chorus in "Spellbreaker".
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* StuckInTheirShadow: The fate of basically every vocalist they've had who wasn't Langquist or Marcolin. Lowe avoided this somewhat and was generally viewed as a solid vocalist in his own right (being from Solitude Aeturnus probably helped), but was still generally viewed as inferior and was derided for his often poor live performances, while Leven has been divisive; Vikstrom and Flodkvist, meanwhile, sadly fell firmly into "not Langquist or Marcolin, don't care" territory.
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* StuckInTheirShadow: The fate of basically every vocalist they've had who wasn't Langquist Längquist or Marcolin. Lowe avoided this somewhat and was generally viewed as a solid vocalist in his own right (being from Solitude Aeturnus probably helped), but was still generally viewed as inferior and was derided for his often poor live performances, while Leven Levén has been divisive; Vikstrom and Flodkvist, meanwhile, sadly fell firmly into "not Langquist or Marcolin, don't care" territory.
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* FaceOfTheBand: Messiah Marcolin, though Langquist is close enough now that he's back in the band.
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* {{Narm}}: A lot of the stuff from their video for "Bewitched".
** A particularly narmy performance comes from then-background extra Per Yngve "Dead" Ohlin, lead singer of Morbid. Of course, his later work with Music/{{Mayhem}} makes you wonder how much he was acting...
** A particularly narmy performance comes from then-background extra Per Yngve "Dead" Ohlin, lead singer of Morbid. Of course, his later work with Music/{{Mayhem}} makes you wonder how much he was acting...
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* {{Narm}}: A lot of the stuff from their video for "Bewitched".
** A particularly narmy performance comes from then-background extra"Bewitched", such as people awkwardly stopping before Messiah starts to control them by pointing at them and saying "You are bewitched".
* RetroactiveRecognition: Per Yngve "Dead"Ohlin, Ohlin of Music/{{Mayhem}}, then lead singer of Morbid. Of course, his later work with Music/{{Mayhem}} makes you wonder how much he Morbid, was acting...a background extra in the "Bewitched" video.
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** The music video of "Bewitched" due to how cheesy it is. As well as the chorus of "YOU ARE BEWIIIIIIIITCHED!".
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** The music video of "Bewitched" due to how cheesy it is. As well as the chorus of "YOU ARE BEWIIIIIIIITCHED!".
** The music video of "Bewitched" due to how cheesy it is. As well as the chorus of "YOU ARE BEWIIIIIIIITCHED!".
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* LargeHam: Messiah Marcolin.
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* BaseBreaker: Mats Leven. He was either just as good, if not better than Rob Lowe with the added benefit of being a far more consistent live performer and having a far better working relationship with Edling, or he was a great vocalist who was in the wrong band and was hired less because he was the best man for the job and more because Edling wanted someone who was professional and easy to work with.
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* BaseBreaker: BaseBreakingCharacter: Mats Leven. He was either just as good, if not better than Rob Lowe with the added benefit of being a far more consistent live performer and having a far better working relationship with Edling, or he was a great vocalist who was in the wrong band and was hired less because he was the best man for the job and more because Edling wanted someone who was professional and easy to work with.
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* BaseBreaker: Mats Leven. He wass either just as good, if not better than Rob Lowe with the added benefit of being a far more consistent live performer and having a far better working relationship with Edling, or he was a great vocalist who was in the wrong band and was hired less because he was the best man for the job and more because Edling wanted someone who was professional and easy to work with.
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* BaseBreaker: Mats Leven. He wass was either just as good, if not better than Rob Lowe with the added benefit of being a far more consistent live performer and having a far better working relationship with Edling, or he was a great vocalist who was in the wrong band and was hired less because he was the best man for the job and more because Edling wanted someone who was professional and easy to work with.
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* BaseBreaker: Mats Leven. He's either just as good, if not better than Rob Lowe with the added benefit of being a far more consistent live performer and having a far better working relationship with Edling, or he's a great vocalist who is in the wrong band and was hired less because he was the best man for the job and more because Edling wanted someone who was professional and easy to work with.
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* BaseBreaker: Mats Leven. He's He wass either just as good, if not better than Rob Lowe with the added benefit of being a far more consistent live performer and having a far better working relationship with Edling, or he's he was a great vocalist who is was in the wrong band and was hired less because he was the best man for the job and more because Edling wanted someone who was professional and easy to work with.
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* BaseBreaker: Mats Leven. He's either just as good, if not better than Rob Lowe with the added benefit of being a far more consistent live performer and having a far better working relationship with Edling, or he's a great vocalist who is in the wrong band and was hired less because he was the best man for the job and more because Edling wanted someone who was professional and easy to work with.
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* StuckInTheirShadow: The fate of basically every vocalist they've had who wasn't Langquist or Marcolin. Lowe avoided this somewhat and was generally viewed as a solid vocalist in his own right (being from Solitude Aeturnus probably helped), but was still generally viewed as inferior and was derided for his often poor live performances, while Leven has been divisive; Vikstrom and Flodkvist, meanwhile, sadly fell firmly into "not Langquist or Marcolin, don't care" territory.
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* AwesomeEgo: While Messiah Marcolin's ego later got him fired, his initial chutzpah saved the band. After ''Epicus'', the band fell apart and basically wasn't even active, and Edling had completely given up on it when he received an unsolicited phone call one night by someone who informed him that he was his new singer and proceeded to sing "Solitude" ''a cappella'', and while Marcolin's dominant and controlling personality later wore out its welcome, it was ''exactly'' what they needed at the time to get back on their feet.
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* SignatureSong: "Solitude".
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* FirstInstallmentWins: Their first two albums overshadow most of their other material.
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* ToughActToFollow: Their later material is nowhere near as well-regarded as ''Epicus Doomicus Metallicus'' and/or ''Nightfall''.
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* SoBadItsGood: Again, the video for "Bewitched", especially Messiah Marcolin's acting.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced - First when Messiah Marcolin rejoined the band, then when famed American doom singer Robert Lowe joined after Messiah left for the last time, and then ''again'' when the ''20 Year Anniversary Party'' DVD featured (among [[{{Opeth}} many]] [[{{Therion}} other]] awesome singers) the band's session vocalist from their very first album.
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* AndTheFandomRejoiced - First when Messiah Marcolin rejoined the band, then when famed American doom singer Robert Lowe joined after Messiah left for the last time, and then ''again'' when the ''20 Year Anniversary Party'' DVD featured (among [[{{Opeth}} many]] [[{{Therion}} other]] awesome singers) the band's session vocalist from their very first album.
* EpicRiff - A large proportion of their work.
* FaceOfTheBand - Messiah Marcolin
* {{Narm}} - A lot of the stuff from their video for "Bewitched".
** A particuarly narmy performance comes from then-background extra Per Yngve "Dead" Ohlin, lead singer of Morbid. Of course, his later work with {{Mayhem}} makes you wonder how much he was acting...
* EpicRiff - A large proportion of their work.
* FaceOfTheBand - Messiah Marcolin
* {{Narm}} - A lot of the stuff from their video for "Bewitched".
** A particuarly narmy performance comes from then-background extra Per Yngve "Dead" Ohlin, lead singer of Morbid. Of course, his later work with {{Mayhem}} makes you wonder how much he was acting...