History YMMV / Batgirl

* FirstInstallmentWins: Barbara Gordon is the only Batgirl who is known to people who don't read comics.

** There ''are'' fans who believe that it was ridiculous for a woman in a comic book universe (surrounded by magicians, aliens, and {{mad scientist}}s, most of whom have come back from the dead at least once) to remain paralyzed by a mere bullet wound, and were waiting for Barbara to put the cowl back on since 1988. They especially enjoy pointing out other superheroes who were crippled in the line of duty but who were promptly restored, such as [[ComicBook/IronMan Tony Stark]], who was shot & paralyzed by a crazy ex-stalker at one point and was promptly restored by an experimental surgery within only a few issues.

--> '''Supergirl:''' "Aren't you gonna...you know..."\\

* FriendlyFandoms: Supergirl fans and Batgirl fans tend to get along marvelously, perhaps because of the similarities between both heroines (both are distaff counterparts of famous male heroes, both have been looked down on by comic fans because of it, both were fridged for decades, replaced and eventually brought back). Or perhaps because they are always friends in every comicverse and even other media as ''Franchise/TheDCAU'', ''WesternAnimation/SuperBestFriendsForever'' or ''WebAnimation/DCSuperHeroGirls''. Regardless of the reason, Kara Zor-El fans use to be Barbara Gordon (and/or Stephanie Brown) fans too, and vice versa; and both fandoms respect each other.

** There ''are'' fans (such as the Feminist Batgirl tumblr) who believe that it was ridiculous for a woman in a comic book universe (surrounded by magicians, aliens, and mad scientists, most of whom have come back from the dead at least once) to remain paralyzed by a mere bullet wound, and were waiting for Barbara to put the cowl back on since 1988.

* FirstInstallmentWins: Barbara Gordon is the only Batgirl who is known to people who don't read comics. And hardly any of them know of her Oracle's identity.

* BrokenBase[=/=]InternetBackdraft:

** Cassandra's ''flat out of friggen nowhere'' FaceHeelTurn is pretty disgusting event that lives in infamy for Batgirl fans, so much so that that a PlotHole AuthorsSavingThrow was gladly accepted just to have her be a good guy again.

** There ''are'' fans (such as the Feminist Batgirl tumblr) who believe that it was ridiculous for a woman in a comic book universe (surrounded by magicians, aliens, and mad scientists, most of whom have come back from the dead at least once) to remain paralyzed by a mere bullet wound, and have been waiting for Barbara to put the cowl back on since 1988.

* TheWoobie: Stephanie maintains her enthusiasm despite the mistreatment she receives, both in-universe, and out.
** Cassandra is no slouch in the woobie department either. In her backstory alone she had quite possibly the most abusive childhood on the planet, which include being shot until she stopped reacting to the pain. After being traumatized by killing a man, she wanders the streets alone for ''ten years'' before being taken in by Oracle. As Batgirl, things get a bit better, but not by much: she ends up seemingly losing her best friend, fails to save several people, and ends up having fallings out with Batman, Oracle, and Robin at various points. And when she finally begins making friends in Bludhaven... [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis Infinite Crisis]] happens, at about the same time that she's forced to seemingly kill her own mother.

* MyRealDaddy: Ever since her ongoing, most generally associate Stephanie Brown with Bryan Q Miller, the writer of her series, rather than ChuckDixon, her creator; though, Dixon is generally respected otherwise.

* MarySue: Cassandra tended to fall into this as her character went on. Even her origin story establishes her with super human powers simply by being raised as ''combat'' as her only language, a father who is supposed to be a previously unheard of super mercenary on par with Comicbook/{{Deathstroke}}, and near automatic approval from the previous Batgirl Barbara Gordon after a storyline of Barbara disapproving of any new Batgirls. The epithet falters, however, in light of the complete lack of standard social skills and no understanding of what constitutes appropriate in several situations (usually to comic effect). They could have been emphasized more, but they were present until the massive FaceHeelTurn removed them completely through idiotic means. It's also negated by the fact that she fails ''a lot''.

** Cassandra is no slouch in the woobie department either. In her backstory alone she had quite possibly the most abusive childhood on the planet, which include being shot until she stopped reacting to the pain. After being traumatized by killing a man, she wanders the streets alone for ''ten years'' before being taken in by Oracle. As Batgirl, things get a bit better, but not by much: she ends up seemingly losing her best friend, fails to save several people, and ends up having fallings out with Batman, Oracle, and Robin at various points. And when she finally begins making friends in Bludhaven... [[ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis]] happens, at about the same time that she's forced to seemingly kill her own mother.

* MarySue: Cassandra tended to fall into this as her character went on. Even her origin story establishes her with super human powers simply by being raised as ''combat'' as her only language, a father who is supposed to be a previously unheard of super mercenary on par with Comicbook/{{Deathstroke}}, and near automatic approval from the previous Batgirl Barbara Gordon after a storyline of Barbara disapproving of any new Batgirls. The epithet falters, however, in light of the complete lack of standard social skills and no understanding of what constitutes appropriate in several situations (usually to comic effect). They could have been emphasized more, but they were present until the massive FaceHeelTurn removed them completely through idiotic means.

* TheWoobie: Stephanie maintains her enthusiasm despite the mistreatment she receives, both in-universe, and out.

* CrackPairing[=/=]CrossoverShip: Cassandra and CaptainAmerica. We're not kidding, it exists.

* FanonDiscontinuity: Generally everything that Adam Beechen is ignored by the fandom. When Creator/ScottSnyder included her in ''Gates of Gotham'', he disregarded the senseless rivalry between Dick and Cassandra in favor of a brother-sister relationship.

** LesYay: Apparently, ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} watches ''those'' types of college movies. You know, the ones with pillow fights and [[SlumberParty Slumber Parties]], and she is just dying to reenact them with Stephanie. Later, [[ItMakesSenseInContext after Dracula appears]], Supergirl [[DressedInLayers rips off her top to reveal her costume beneath it]].

* MemeticSexGod: In-Universe, the Barbara Gordon Batgirl outfit is a Memetic Sex God Outfit. Barbara mentions that Dick got a 'certain look' when she had it on, and when Cass steals it, Tim notices her in that way for the first time.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: The revelation that Stephanie had not in fact died at the hands of Black Mask, but had been [[HesJustHiding smuggled out of the country by Leslie Thompkins]]. It was a blatant RetCon, but it salvaged Thompkin's character and reversed the StuffedIntoTheFridge of Steph's original death.

* BrokenBase[=/=]InternetBackdraft: Barbara reclaiming the title is either something that should have happened years ago or something that pushes her back and removes her character development; in both cases, it leads to discussions about what is more sexist, and the argument about what it means for the others.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Wendy and her brother Marvin were heavy [[TheScrappy scrappies]] when they appeared in ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'', but [[AlasPoorScrappy their brutal exit from the series]] completely reversed fan opinion over night. Wendy's appearances in ''Batgirl'' have been well-received, with praise given for the development of her character as she adjusts to being a paraplegic and continuing to be an active crime-fighter.

* AuthorsSavingThrow: The revelation that Stephanie had not in fact died at the hands of Black Mask, but had been [[HesJustHiding smuggled out of the country by Leslie Thompkins]]. It was a blatant RetCon, but it salvaged Thompkin's character and reversed the StuffedIntoTheFridge of Steph's original death.

* BrokenBase[=/=]InternetBackdraft: Barbara reclaiming the title is either something that should have happened years ago or something that pushes her back and removes her character development; in both cases, it leads to discussions about what is more sexist, and the argument about what it means for the others.

* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: Wendy and her brother Marvin were heavy [[TheScrappy scrappies]] when they appeared in ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'', but [[AlasPoorScrappy their brutal exit from the series]] completely reversed fan opinion over night. Wendy's appearances in ''Batgirl'' have been well-received, with praise given for the development of her character as she adjusts to being a paraplegic and continuing to be an active crime-fighter.

* BrokenBase[=InternetBackdraft=]: Barbara reclaiming the title is either something that should have happened years ago or something that pushes her back and removes her character development; in both cases, it leads to discussions about what is more sexist, and the argument about what it means for the others.

** LesYay: Apparently, ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} watches ''those'' types of college movies. You know, the ones with {{Pillow Fight}}s and [[SlumberParty Slumber Parties]], and she is just dying to reenact them with Stephanie. Later, [[ItMakesSenseInContext after Dracula appears]], Supergirl [[DressedInLayers rips off her top to reveal her costume beneath it]].

* ScrewedByTheNetwork: The Steph Brown version was cancelled to make way for the [[InsistentTerminology "relaunch"]]. Cassandra Cain is pretty much in the same boat.
* TooGoodToLast: The Cassandra Cain and Stephanie Brown versions, both cancelled at their peak due to events to clear way for other series.

** There ''are'' fans (such as the Feminist Batgirl tumblr) who believe that it was ridiculous for a woman in a comic book universe (surrounded by magicians, aliens, and mad scientists, most of whom have come back from the dead at least once) to remain paralyzed by a mere bullet wound, and have been waiting for Barbara to put the cowl back on since 1998.