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Opponents of orcs didn't know about the "little brother", which ensured that any fallen orc whose body wasn't mutilated beyond recognition would recover. After a battle, any "dead" orcs would revive and devour the non-orcish dead in mindless, instinctive HorrorHunger brought on by their HealingFactor, then collapse unconscious with swollen bellies. Spies from the enemy would scout out the battlefield to assess the situation, see a bunch of sleeping orcs and an absence of dead ones, and leap to conclusions.
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Opponents of orcs didn't know about the "little brother", which ensured that any fallen orc whose body wasn't mutilated beyond recognition would recover. After a battle, any "dead" orcs would revive and devour the non-orcish dead in mindless, instinctive HorrorHunger brought on by their HealingFactor, then collapse unconscious with swollen bellies. Spies from the enemy would scout out the battlefield to assess the situation, see a bunch of sleeping fat orcs and an absence of dead ones, and leap to conclusions.
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Nutt repeatedly demonstrates an ability to make himself look smaller, skinnier, and inherently harmless. While this wouldn't be much use for grunt shock-troops of the Unholy Empire, the ''opposite'' power -- either projecting an image that they're bigger, huskier, and more menacing, or actually ''growing'' to become that way -- would make them even more formidable in battle. Nutt has this ability, just like his ancestors, but due to his insecurities and desire to seem non-threatening, he unconsciously and constantly employs it ''in reverse''.
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** Agnes has a very brief appearance in AHatFullOfSky at the Witch Trials. There's no evidence that she has a 'steading' in Lancre or lives there all yaer round, though (and Tiffany leaves Lancre after her training is over- it wouldn't be too hard to broomstick in for one day).
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** Speaking of [[spoiler:orcs]], it's easy to see a parallel between Nutt and [[{{Stargate SG-1}} another]] member of a race of formerly enslaved {{super soldier}}s who is [[WarriorPoet philosophical]], [[SpockSpeak well-spoken]], well-read, and has a little something inside of him that helps heal injuries.[[hottip:+:Nutt calling it "Little Brother" is very evocative of O'Neill's nickname for Teal'c's symbiote: "Junior."]]
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** Speaking of [[spoiler:orcs]], it's easy to see a parallel between Nutt and [[{{Stargate SG-1}} [[Series/StargateSG1 another]] member of a race of formerly enslaved {{super soldier}}s who is [[WarriorPoet philosophical]], [[SpockSpeak well-spoken]], well-read, and has a little something inside of him that helps heal injuries.[[hottip:+:Nutt calling it "Little Brother" is very evocative of O'Neill's nickname for Teal'c's symbiote: "Junior."]]
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[[WMG: Nutt is a heavily altered [[MetalGear Big Boss]] clone.]]
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* The fact that there are no witches in Ankh-Morpork (at least as far as we can tell) would seem to lend to your theory: witchcraft in Lancre and the surrounding area seems to get passed down from one witch to another, but without any witches to begin with, there wouldn't be anyone to pass it down in Ankh-Morpork. Shame, that.
** As it turns out, there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something.
[[WMG: [[Warhammer40K Da Orks]] came frum [[{{Discworld}} da round flat place]]]]
** As it turns out, there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something.
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** As it turns out, there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, orsomething.
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** Sir Terry knows about Games Workshop, and even was in talks to write a novel for them (in the early Nineties) but it never went anywhere.
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As the top of the page mentions, he's got the potential to be an even better Chessmaster. He managed to get the entirety of the football stadium to cheer for him. He can talk people better. He ''works''. And Vetinari likes him. He's the man the city needs.
** Nutt isn't a people person. He uses big words and brings up complicated concepts. And he's nice, and requires explanations for things everyone else in the city takes for granted. And [[{{Discworld/GoingPostal}} he doesn't wear]] [[Discworld/MakingMoney a gold suit]]. He'd be totally wrong for the city if he were in politics. He needs to find his own niche and do good for the city in his own way like a certain Captain does.
** Nutt isn't a people person. He uses big words and brings up complicated concepts. And he's nice, and requires explanations for things everyone else in the city takes for granted. And [[{{Discworld/GoingPostal}} he doesn't wear]] [[Discworld/MakingMoney a gold suit]]. He'd be totally wrong for the city if he were in politics. He needs to find his own niche and do good for the city in his own way like a certain Captain does.
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** Nutt isn't a people person. He uses big words and brings up complicated concepts. And he's nice, and requires explanations for things everyone else in the city takes for granted. And[[{{Discworld/GoingPostal}} [[Discworld/GoingPostal he doesn't wear]] [[Discworld/MakingMoney a gold suit]]. He'd be totally wrong for the city if he were in politics. He needs to find his own niche and do good for the city in his own way like a certain Captain does.
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Just what does Vetinari want? In this book we learn his second goal, in addition to making Ankh-Morpork work, "to prove the moral superior of the supreme being." Since the early days of when Discworld was becoming what it is now, Vetinari had been slowly but inexorably drawing together first the various human factions, then drawing in Dwarfs, then Trolle, Werewolves, Vampires, Nobby Nobbs, Gorgons, letting them all in, giving them ALL a chance. In this book he manipulates the Shove into conquering itself and gets Ankh-Morpork to think "hey them Orcs aren't so bad after all." Most telling of all, he has cultivated a city alone on the Disc where citizens will break into his palace to warn him. Granted, he's Vetinari so he already knew, but since his successor will not be him (this being the very point of a successor), he has given the next man or woman for the job the gift of a populace who ''gives a damn.''
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* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
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* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of CarpeJugulum.Discworld/CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
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** Oh great, so now we have Nitt and Nutt together?
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** Oh great, so now we have Nitt and Nutt together?
together? All that's missing is Nutter from Good Omens. I sense a Dumb & Dumber spoof coming up...
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** Oh great, so now we have Nitt and Nutt together?
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** Nutt isn't a people person. He uses big words and brings up complicated concepts. And he's nice, and requires explanations for things everyone else in the city takes for granted. And [[{{Discworld/GoingPostal}} he doesn't wear a gold suit]]. He'd be totally wrong for the city if he were in politics. He needs to find his own niche and do good for the city in his own way like a certain Captain does.
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** Nutt isn't a people person. He uses big words and brings up complicated concepts. And he's nice, and requires explanations for things everyone else in the city takes for granted. And [[{{Discworld/GoingPostal}} he doesn't wear wear]] [[MakingMoney a gold suit]]. He'd be totally wrong for the city if he were in politics. He needs to find his own niche and do good for the city in his own way like a certain Captain does.
** And it's hinted at at the end of the novel that Ventari plans on making Gilda his personal cook and therfore keeping Nutt close, not to mention giving him something that Margoletta, his rival/love intrest(which is really as clear as you can define their relationship) wants as an added bonus, and probably already has plans for him that he's waiting for the right time to activate, so the afformentioned niche is presumably in the works.
** And it's hinted at at the end of the novel that Ventari plans on making Gilda his personal cook and therfore keeping Nutt close, not to mention giving him something that Margoletta, his rival/love intrest(which is really as clear as you can define their relationship) wants as an added bonus, and probably already has plans for him that he's waiting for the right time to activate, so the afformentioned niche is presumably in the works.
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* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
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* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
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* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
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* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
[[WMG: Agnes is with Mightily Oats in Uberwald]]
* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
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Having [[spoiler: [[{{Warhammer 40000}} football hooligans and orcs]]]] in the same book?
** Engineered as warriors, nearly impossible to kill, keep showing up after everyone thinks they're wiped off the planet, instinctive push to group action, near-instinctive grasp of mechanical skills he's only read about... There's just no way that's a coincidence.
** There actually exists [[BloodBowl a tabletop football game set in the Warhammer universe]]. Granted, it uses ''American'' football...
** Speaking of [[spoiler:orcs]], it's easy to see a parallel between Nutt and [[{{Stargate SG-1}} another]] member of a race of formerly enslaved {{super soldier}}s who is [[WarriorPoet philosophical]], [[SpockSpeak well-spoken]], well-read, and has a little something inside of him that helps heal injuries.[[hottip:+:Nutt calling it "Little Brother" is very evocative of O'Neill's nickname for Teal'c's symbiote: "Junior."]]
** In a similar vein to the above, though this may well be a coincidence, there's an [[spoiler:orc]] in the {{Warcraft}} series who was also [[spoiler: deliberately taken away from his kind and given an extensive education, which left him eloquent and polite. Thrall, too, spent his early childhood in horrible living conditions and developed a strong bond with a human girl who showed him kindness. Then he went back to the orcs and led them towards a less destructive path.]]
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Possibly without realising it (kinda like Tiffany's grandmother). We don't know if she has any actual magic power, but witchcraft is mostly about having the right sort of personality and intelligence and she does have that. (Also, it makes the idea of her, [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Nutt]] and [[BadassPreacher Oats]] having adventures in Uberwald [[RuleOfCool just a little more awesome]].)
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Possibly without realising it (kinda like Tiffany's grandmother). We don't know if she has any actual magic power, but witchcraft is mostly about having the right sort of personality and intelligence and she does have that. (Also, it makes the idea of her, [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Nutt]] and [[BadassPreacher Oats]] [[TheyFightCrime having adventures adventures]] in Uberwald {{Uberwald}} [[RuleOfCool just a little more awesome]].)
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As the top of the page mentions, he's got the potential to be an even better Chessmaster. He managed to get the entirety of the football stadium to cheer for him. He can talk people better. He ''works''. And Vetinari likes him. He's the man the city needs.
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**Sir Terry knows about Games Workshop, and even was in talks to write a novel for them (in the early Nineties) but it never went anywhere.
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** The orcs are stated to have been made from humans, my theory still stands.
[[WMG: Terry Pratchett plays Warhammer]]
[[OneOfUs See above]].
[[WMG: Terry Pratchett plays Warhammer]]
[[OneOfUs See above]].
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** The chants and the Shove are both products of Football, and had been around long before Mr. Nutt showed up in Ankh-Morpork.
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[[WMG: Pepe's problem...]]
...was not just being gay when he mentions that you have to be tough to grow up poor with his preferences. Given the general nature of the Discworld and the WordOfGod about [[InterspeciesRomance him and Madame Sharn]], he was the one thing that's [[FantasticRacism worse]]--a xenophile, with a specific thing for dwarfs.
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The chants (come on if you think you're hard enough, here we go, here we go, here we go), mechanically-skilled orcs who can change size as a reflection of what people think of them, the [[strike: Waaaagh]]Shove... Need I say more?
The chants (come on if you think you're hard enough, here we go, here we go, here we go), mechanically-skilled orcs who can change size as a reflection of what people think of them, the [[strike: Waaaagh]]Shove... Need I say more?
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* The fact that there are no witches in Ankh-Morpork (at least as far as we can tell) would seem to lend to your theory: witchcraft in Lancre and the surrounding area seems to get passed down from one witch to another, but without any witches to begin with, there wouldn't be anyone to pass it down in Ankh-Morpork. Shame, that.
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* The fact that there are no witches in Ankh-Morpork (at least as far as we can tell) would seem to lend to your theory: witchcraft in Lancre and the surrounding area seems to get passed down from one witch to another, but without any witches to begin with, there wouldn't be anyone to pass it down in Ankh-Morpork. Shame, that.
that.
** As it turns out, [[IShallWearMidnight there are witches in Ankh-Morpork]], though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something.
** As it turns out, [[IShallWearMidnight there are witches in Ankh-Morpork]], though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something.
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* The fact that there are no witches in Ankh-Morpork (at least as far as we can tell) would seem to lend to your theory: witchcraft in Lancre and the surrounding area seems to get passed down from one witch to another, but without any witches to begin with, there wouldn't be anyone to pass it down in Ankh-Morpork. Shame, that.
