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Possibly without realising it (kinda like Tiffany's grandmother). We don't know if she has any actual magic power, but witchcraft is mostly about having the right sort of personality and intelligence and she does have that. (Also, it makes the idea of her, [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Nutt]] and [[BadassPreacher Oats]] [[TheyFightCrime having adventures]] in {{Uberwald}} [[RuleOfCool just a little more awesome]].)
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Possibly without realising it (kinda like Tiffany's grandmother). We don't know if she has any actual magic power, but witchcraft is mostly about having the right sort of personality and intelligence and she does have that. (Also, it makes the idea of her, [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Nutt]] and [[BadassPreacher Oats]] [[TheyFightCrime having adventures]] adventures in {{Uberwald}} [[RuleOfCool just a little more awesome]].)
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* Despite what some characters say, it turns out there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something. And the idea of a gaudy witch named Glenda [[Film/Wizard Of Oz isn't THAT absurd an idea]].
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* Despite what some characters say, it turns out there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something. And the idea of a gaudy witch named Glenda [[Film/Wizard Of Oz [[Film/WizardOfOz isn't THAT absurd an idea]].
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* Despite what some characters say, it turns out there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something. And the idea of a gaudy witch named Glenda [[WizardOfOz isn't THAT absurd an idea]].
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* Despite what some characters say, it turns out there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something. And the idea of a gaudy witch named Glenda [[WizardOfOz [[Film/Wizard Of Oz isn't THAT absurd an idea]].
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[[WMG: Nutt is a heavily altered [[Franchise/MetalGear Big Boss]] clone.]]
Like Solid Snake, he's highly intelligent, skilled, multilingual, [[spoiler: badass (eventually)]], and is a rather horrible flirt. Like Liquid, he has serious self-worth issues and unnatural durability. Throwing in a little Otacon DNA could account for the technical prowess and adorkability.
Like Solid Snake, he's highly intelligent, skilled, multilingual, [[spoiler: badass (eventually)]], and is a rather horrible flirt. Like Liquid, he has serious self-worth issues and unnatural durability. Throwing in a little Otacon DNA could account for the technical prowess and adorkability.
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* The fact that there are no witches in Ankh-Morpork (at least as far as we can tell) would seem to lend to your theory: witchcraft in Lancre and the surrounding area seems to get passed down from one witch to another, but without any witches to begin with, there wouldn't be anyone to pass it down in Ankh-Morpork. Shame, that.
** As it turns out, there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something.
[[WMG: [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Da Orks]] came frum [[Literature/{{Discworld}} da round flat place]]]]
The chants (come on if you think you're hard enough, here we go, here we go, here we go), mechanically-skilled orcs who can change size as a reflection of what people think of them, the [[strike: Waaaagh]]Shove... Need I say more?
** The chants and the Shove are both products of Football, and had been around long before Mr. Nutt showed up in Ankh-Morpork.
** The orcs are stated to have been made from humans, my theory still stands.
[[WMG: Terry Pratchett plays Warhammer]]
[[JustForFun/OneOfUs See above]].
** Sir Terry knows about Games Workshop, and even was in talks to write a novel for them (in the early Nineties) but it never went anywhere.
** As it turns out, there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something.
[[WMG: [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Da Orks]] came frum [[Literature/{{Discworld}} da round flat place]]]]
The chants (come on if you think you're hard enough, here we go, here we go, here we go), mechanically-skilled orcs who can change size as a reflection of what people think of them, the [[strike: Waaaagh]]Shove... Need I say more?
** The chants and the Shove are both products of Football, and had been around long before Mr. Nutt showed up in Ankh-Morpork.
** The orcs are stated to have been made from humans, my theory still stands.
[[WMG: Terry Pratchett plays Warhammer]]
[[JustForFun/OneOfUs See above]].
** Sir Terry knows about Games Workshop, and even was in talks to write a novel for them (in the early Nineties) but it never went anywhere.
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* The fact that there are no witches in Ankh-Morpork (at least as far as we can tell) would seem to lend to your theory: witchcraft in Lancre and the surrounding area seems to get passed down from one witch to another, but without any witches to begin with, there wouldn't be anyone to pass it down in Ankh-Morpork. Shame, that.
** AsDespite what some characters say, it turns out, out there are witches in Ankh-Morpork, though they keep a high profile - they dress up in so gaudy witch costumes that everybody assumes they're just going to a hen party, or something.
[[WMG: [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Da Orks]] came frum [[Literature/{{Discworld}} da round flat place]]]]
The chants (come on if you think you're hard enough, here we go, here we go, here we go), mechanically-skilled orcs who can change size as a reflection of what people think of them,something. And the [[strike: Waaaagh]]Shove... Need I say more?
** The chants and the Shove are both productsidea of Football, and had been around long before Mr. Nutt showed up in Ankh-Morpork.
** The orcs are stated to have been made from humans, my theory still stands.
[[WMG: Terry Pratchett plays Warhammer]]
[[JustForFun/OneOfUs See above]].
** Sir Terry knows about Games Workshop, and even was in talks to writea novel for them (in the early Nineties) but it never went anywhere.
gaudy witch named Glenda [[WizardOfOz isn't THAT absurd an idea]].
** As
[[WMG: [[TabletopGame/{{Warhammer 40000}} Da Orks]] came frum [[Literature/{{Discworld}} da round flat place]]]]
The chants (come on if you think you're hard enough, here we go, here we go, here we go), mechanically-skilled orcs who can change size as a reflection of what people think of them,
** The chants and the Shove are both products
** The orcs are stated to have been made from humans, my theory still stands.
[[WMG: Terry Pratchett plays Warhammer]]
[[JustForFun/OneOfUs See above]].
** Sir Terry knows about Games Workshop, and even was in talks to write
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** Nutt isn't a people person. He uses big words and brings up complicated concepts. And he's nice, and requires explanations for things everyone else in the city takes for granted. And [[Discworld/GoingPostal he doesn't wear]] [[Discworld/MakingMoney a gold suit]]. He'd be totally wrong for the city if he were in politics. He needs to find his own niche and do good for the city in his own way like a certain Captain does.
** And it's hinted at at the end of the novel that Ventari plans on making Gilda his personal cook and therfore keeping Nutt close, not to mention giving him something that Margoletta, his rival/love intrest(which is really as clear as you can define their relationship) wants as an added bonus, and probably already has plans for him that he's waiting for the right time to activate, so the afformentioned niche is presumably in the works.
** And it's hinted at at the end of the novel that Ventari plans on making Gilda his personal cook and therfore keeping Nutt close, not to mention giving him something that Margoletta, his rival/love intrest(which is really as clear as you can define their relationship) wants as an added bonus, and probably already has plans for him that he's waiting for the right time to activate, so the afformentioned niche is presumably in the works.
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** Nutt isn't a people person. He uses big words and brings up complicated concepts. And he's nice, and requires explanations for things everyone else in the city takes for granted. And [[Discworld/GoingPostal [[Literature/GoingPostal he doesn't wear]] [[Discworld/MakingMoney [[Literature/MakingMoney a gold suit]]. He'd be totally wrong for the city if he were in politics. He needs to find his own niche and do good for the city in his own way like a certain Captain does.
** And it's hinted at at the end of the novel that Ventari plans on making Gilda his personal cook andtherfore therefore keeping Nutt close, not to mention giving him something that Margoletta, his rival/love intrest(which interest (which is really as clear as you can define their relationship) wants as an added bonus, and probably already has plans for him that he's waiting for the right time to activate, so the afformentioned aforementioned niche is presumably in the works.
** And it's hinted at at the end of the novel that Ventari plans on making Gilda his personal cook and
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* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of Discworld/CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
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* Glenda is in many ways just like Agnes. There's speculation that she's a witch (see above, that wasn't this troper). She has an inner Glenda reminiscent of Perdita X Dream (though to be fair, it's also sorta like second thoughts are described in the Tiffany Aching books). She's also pleasantly plump, so to speak, and slightly self conscious about it (though she gets over that). Now Glenda is in love with [[spoiler: Nutt]] and he's stated to be going to take Mightily Oat's place in Uberwald. Agnes and Mightily had some romantic interest near the end of Discworld/CarpeJugulum.Literature/CarpeJugulum. So Glenda and [[spoiler: Nutt]] would be taking over for Agnes and Mightily. It would also explain why Agnes has disappeared off the face of the earth during the Tiffany Aching books.
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** Agnes has a very brief appearance in ''Discworld/AHatFullOfSky'' at the Witch Trials. There's no evidence that she has a "steading" in Lancre or lives there all year round, though (and Tiffany leaves Lancre after her training is over -- it wouldn't be too hard to broomstick in for one day).
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** Agnes has a very brief appearance in ''Discworld/AHatFullOfSky'' ''Literature/AHatFullOfSky'' at the Witch Trials. There's no evidence that she has a "steading" in Lancre or lives there all year round, though (and Tiffany leaves Lancre after her training is over -- it wouldn't be too hard to broomstick in for one day).
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[[OneOfUs See above]].
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Because after the entire city got to witness [[spoiler: Trev's spectacular winning play performed with a ''tin can'']], everyone will want to emulate that play in future games. So sales of the "new ball" will plummet and [[spoiler: rival sports-equipment makers will start producing fancy top-quality tin cans instead]].
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Because after the entire city got to witness [[spoiler: Trev's spectacular winning play performed with a ''tin can'']], everyone will want to emulate that play in future games. So sales of the "new ball" will plummet and [[spoiler: rival sports-equipment makers will start producing fancy top-quality high-quality tin cans instead]].
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Because after the entire city got to witness [[spoiler: Trev's spectacular winning play performed with a tin can]], everyone will want to emulate that play in future games. So sales of the "new ball" will plummet and [[spoiler: rival sports-equipment makers will start producing fancy top-quality tin cans instead]].
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Because after the entire city got to witness [[spoiler: Trev's spectacular winning play performed with a tin can]], ''tin can'']], everyone will want to emulate that play in future games. So sales of the "new ball" will plummet and [[spoiler: rival sports-equipment makers will start producing fancy top-quality tin cans instead]].
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[[WMG: The dwarf who made the "new ball" is going to go broke.]]
Because after the entire city got to witness [[spoiler: Trev's spectacular winning play performed with a tin can]], everyone will want to emulate that play in future games. So sales of the "new ball" will plummet and [[spoiler: rival sports-equipment makers will start producing fancy top-quality tin cans instead]].
Because after the entire city got to witness [[spoiler: Trev's spectacular winning play performed with a tin can]], everyone will want to emulate that play in future games. So sales of the "new ball" will plummet and [[spoiler: rival sports-equipment makers will start producing fancy top-quality tin cans instead]].
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** Agnes has a very brief appearance in AHatFullOfSky at the Witch Trials. There's no evidence that she has a 'steading' in Lancre or lives there all yaer round, though (and Tiffany leaves Lancre after her training is over- it wouldn't be too hard to broomstick in for one day).
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** Agnes has a very brief appearance in AHatFullOfSky ''Discworld/AHatFullOfSky'' at the Witch Trials. There's no evidence that she has a 'steading' "steading" in Lancre or lives there all yaer year round, though (and Tiffany leaves Lancre after her training is over- over -- it wouldn't be too hard to broomstick in for one day).
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** In a similar vein to the above, though this may well be a coincidence, there's an [[spoiler:orc]] in the {{Warcraft}} series who was also [[spoiler: deliberately taken away from his kind and given an extensive education, which left him eloquent and polite. Thrall, too, spent his early childhood in horrible living conditions and developed a strong bond with a human girl who showed him kindness. Then he went back to the orcs and led them towards a less destructive path.]]
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** In a similar vein to the above, though this may well be a coincidence, there's an [[spoiler:orc]] in the {{Warcraft}} ''VideoGame/{{Warcraft}}'' series who was also [[spoiler: deliberately taken away from his kind and given an extensive education, which left him eloquent and polite. Thrall, too, spent his early childhood in horrible living conditions and developed a strong bond with a human girl who showed him kindness. Then he went back to the orcs and led them towards a less destructive path.]]
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** There actually exists [[BloodBowl a tabletop football game set in the Warhammer universe]]. Granted, it uses ''American'' football...
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** There actually exists [[BloodBowl [[TabletopGame/BloodBowl a tabletop football game set in the Warhammer universe]]. Granted, it uses ''American'' football...
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** Speaking of [[spoiler:orcs]], it's easy to see a parallel between Nutt and [[Series/StargateSG1 another]] member of a race of formerly enslaved {{super soldier}}s who is [[WarriorPoet philosophical]], [[SpockSpeak well-spoken]], well-read, and has a little something inside of him that helps heal injuries.[[hottip:+:Nutt calling it "Little Brother" is very evocative of O'Neill's nickname for Teal'c's symbiote: "Junior."]]
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** Speaking of [[spoiler:orcs]], it's easy to see a parallel between Nutt and [[Series/StargateSG1 another]] member of a race of formerly enslaved {{super soldier}}s who is [[WarriorPoet philosophical]], [[SpockSpeak well-spoken]], well-read, and has a little something inside of him that helps heal injuries.[[hottip:+:Nutt [[note]]Nutt calling it "Little Brother" is very evocative of O'Neill's nickname for Teal'c's symbiote: "Junior."]]"[[/note]]
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[[WMG: The Dean didn't leave the [=UU=] for money.]]
He's originally from Pseudopolis, so he was probably homesick. The prestige of his new title [[spoiler: as Archchancellor of Brazeneck University]] was an added bonus.
He's originally from Pseudopolis, so he was probably homesick. The prestige of his new title [[spoiler: as Archchancellor of Brazeneck University]] was an added bonus.
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Nutt repeatedly demonstrates an ability to make himself look smaller, skinnier, and inherently harmless. While this wouldn't be much use for grunt shock-troops of the Unholy Empire, the ''opposite'' power -- either projecting an image that they're bigger, huskier, and more menacing, or actually ''growing'' to become that way -- would make them still more formidable in battle. Nutt has this ability, just like his ancestors, but due to his insecurities and desire to seem non-threatening, he unconsciously employs it ''in reverse''.
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Nutt repeatedly demonstrates an ability to make himself look smaller, skinnier, and inherently harmless. While this wouldn't be much use for grunt shock-troops of the Unholy Empire, the ''opposite'' power -- either projecting an image that they're bigger, huskier, and more menacing, or actually ''growing'' to become that way -- would make them still orcs even more formidable in battle.dreaded as opponents. Nutt has this ability, just like his ancestors, but due to his insecurities and desire to seem non-threatening, he unconsciously employs it ''in reverse''.
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[[WMG: The "little brother" isn't the only special power Discworld's orcs were created with.]]
Nutt repeatedly demonstrates an ability to make himself look smaller, skinnier, and inherently harmless. While this wouldn't be much use for grunt shock-troops of the Unholy Empire, the ''opposite'' power -- either projecting an image that they're bigger, huskier, and more menacing, or actually ''growing'' to become that way -- would make them even more formidable in battle. Nutt has this ability, just like his ancestors, but due to his insecurities and desire to seem non-threatening, he unconsciously and constantly employs it ''in reverse''.
Nutt repeatedly demonstrates an ability to make himself look smaller, skinnier, and inherently harmless. While this wouldn't be much use for grunt shock-troops of the Unholy Empire, the ''opposite'' power -- either projecting an image that they're bigger, huskier, and more menacing, or actually ''growing'' to become that way -- would make them even more formidable in battle. Nutt has this ability, just like his ancestors, but due to his insecurities and desire to seem non-threatening, he unconsciously and constantly employs it ''in reverse''.
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[[WMG: The "little brother" isn't the only special power Discworld's orcs were created equipped with.]]
Nutt repeatedly demonstrates an ability to make himself look smaller, skinnier, and inherently harmless. While this wouldn't be much use for grunt shock-troops of the Unholy Empire, the ''opposite'' power -- either projecting an image that they're bigger, huskier, and more menacing, or actually ''growing'' to become that way -- would make themeven still more formidable in battle. Nutt has this ability, just like his ancestors, but due to his insecurities and desire to seem non-threatening, he unconsciously and constantly employs it ''in reverse''.
Nutt repeatedly demonstrates an ability to make himself look smaller, skinnier, and inherently harmless. While this wouldn't be much use for grunt shock-troops of the Unholy Empire, the ''opposite'' power -- either projecting an image that they're bigger, huskier, and more menacing, or actually ''growing'' to become that way -- would make them
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Opponents of orcs didn't know about the "little brother", which ensured that any fallen orc whose body wasn't mutilated beyond recognition would recover. After a battle, any "dead" orcs would revive and devour the non-orcish dead in mindless, instinctive HorrorHunger brought on by their HealingFactor, then collapse unconscious with swollen bellies. Spies from the enemy would scout out the battlefield to assess the situation, see a bunch of sleeping fat orcs and an absence of dead ones, and leap to conclusions.
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Opponents of orcs didn't know about the "little brother", which ensured that any fallen orc whose body wasn't mutilated beyond recognition would recover. After a battle, any "dead" orcs would revive and devour the non-orcish dead in mindless, instinctive HorrorHunger brought on by their HealingFactor, then collapse unconscious with swollen bellies. Spies from the enemy would scout out the battlefield to assess the situation, see a bunch of sleeping fat orcs and an absence of dead ones, and leap to all the wrong conclusions.