History WMG / TheAvengers2012

[[spoiler:Confirmed, but Hulk is fought from a combination of stress from a sudden attack and influence from Loki. He's fought only by Thor and briefly an fighter jet, while Black Widow just runs like heck from him.]]

Jossed. Corvus Glaive is a different character that appears in ''Infinity War''.

* Pretty sure that was the first ''Film/IronMan'''s job.

*** The 2008 film is said to be a spiritual sequel to the 2003 one, referencing the fact by starting Banner off in a south american country. The intro to the 2008 film shows that the Hulk's origin is similar to the one in the TV show, the exposure to the gamma radiation was deliberate. And it was said in the 2008 film that Banner was attempting to recreate the Super-Soldier Serum, and was sure Gamma radiation was the answer, it's possible he used an experimental serum before the exposure that allowed him to survive, with the Hulk as an unfortunate side effect.

[[WMG: Deadpool exists in the same universe as Avengers.]]
If his movie will come out before any other, and if [[spoiler:Thanos]] will make an appearence.

* He's on his last regeneration so his appearance is unattractive (like Crispy!Master).

[[WMG:SpiderMan will have a cameo in the film]]

** And you're be wrong, as of ''Film/CaptainMarvel''. [[spoiler: It's Goose the Flerken who scratched Fury's eye out, because Fury trusted her to behave like the cute kitty she resembles. Which she did, but only to a point.]]

* [[MightyMorphinPowerRangers Serpenterra!]] [[spoiler:It was even defeated by Iron Man in the same way!]]

* Most of the changes for the 2003 movie to fit in the MCU would be:
** David Banner was working with General Ross on recreating the Super-Soldier serum, and secretly tested it on himself. He unknowingly passed it on to his unborn son.
** The Glenn Talbot in this movie is the MCU Talbot's younger brother William.
** The security guard (played by Creator/LouFerrigno) in ''The Incredible Hulk'' is the same one in this movie.
** The other security guard (played by Creator/StanLee) is related to the other Stan Lee characters in the MCU (see '''Stan Lee characters''' in the [[WMG/MarvelCinematicUniverse Marvel Cinematic Universe WMG]]).

* What about TheHulk? When his pulse rises, no one is [[YouWouldntLikeMeWhenImAngry likely to like him]]. Of course, he could be the designated [[DrunkDriver driver]].

[[WMG:TheHulk is friends with Tony because of how he treats Bruce Banner]]

And he will tell him "[y]ou're a lot like him". Maybe insultingly at first, but the next time will be a CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming.

Every GenreSavvy viewer is well-aware of Joss's love for killing off one of the main character, especially in Film franchises. [[IKnowYouKnowIKNow And Joss is well-aware that most viewers are aware of this]], so he's going to screw with the audience and have someone killed off before the mid-way point...only for it turn out to be DisneyDeath. Then he's going to "[[LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt kill off]]" someone who can't die, because they'll be future movies, but then it will look like they really are dead... only for them to turn up in a BigDamnHeroes [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome moment]].

[[WMG:The scene between Loki and Tony will be actually be a HeartwarmingMoment]]

** Confirmed, but it's a HeartwarmingMoment because [[spoiler:Tony does an AndThisIsFor for [[HeroicSacrifice Coulson]]]] before he blasts Loki.

[[WMG: Loki was confronted by one of the [[CthulhuMythos Outer Gods]] in the Abyss.]]

[[WMG:Film/{{The Avengers|2012}} takes place in the same universe as SexAndTheCity]]
Before Phil Coulson was a SHIELD agent he worked at a Footlocker and dated Miranda Hobbs. That incident (where he lied about being a doctor to impress her) made him realise how pathetic his life was, so he turned things around. Unfortunately this probably means that every SexAndTheCity character was killed by aliens. However, this is a worthy sacrifice in the name of synchronicity.

[[WMG: There will be a scene where Cap lifts Mjölnir in The Avengers.]]

* [[spoiler:Confirmed, but Hulk is fought from a combination of stress from a sudden attack and influence from Loki. He's fought only by Thor and briefly an fighter jet, while Black Widow just runs like heck from him.]]

[[WMG: War Machine was unable to be involved in the final battle of ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' due to the World Security Council.]]
Rhodes in his War Machine armor would probably have wanted to help out in the battle in New York, but Rhodes works as a member of the Air Force, which is probably more inclined to listen to the World Security Council, who felt that superhero involvement wouldn't change anything, than SHIELD. Having a second Iron Man around could really have helped the Avengers' efforts against Loki's alien forces, but the World Security Council messed things up once again.
* Or alternatively, he could simply not have gotten their in time to help. Starktech armor is fast, but if he is based out in California, it'd take him an hour or two to get to NYC, even if he left the moment the invasion started.
** Jossed - The ''Iron Man 3'' Prelude comic explains his absence with [[spoiler:Rhodes investigating the Ten Rings in Asia. He eventually arrived at NY but by then battle was over and the Avengers were enjoying some shawarma.]]

* Is Corvus Glaive, the Mad Titan's similarly nihilistic right-hand man from Hickman's '''ComicBook/{{Infinity}}''' story. Amusingly, in Infinity, it may have happened this way in reverse: where Corvus is based at least visually on The Other.

[[WMG: Thor's Hammer versus Cap's Shield...]]
The reason that the impact of Thor's hammer did not crush Cap was not just because of the construction of Cap's shield from Vibranium. It was also because of the nature of the "magic" of Thor's hammer and how "virtuous" Cap is. The hammer was not going to do harm to a person like Cap and the combination of the "magic" along with Cap's shield created the impact of the immovable object versus the unstoppable force reaction.

[[WMG: Legal/studio/rights issues aside...]]
* It's tremendously satisfying to imagine all of Marvel's heroes in New York fighting the invasion in their own ways. Tobey or Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man, Hugh Jackman and the X-team, even Affleck's Daredevil--and all of them kicking as much as as they possibly can.

[[WMG: All-purpose theories for characters in ''Avengers 2'']]
No theory is too outlandish, nothing is out of bounds.
* '''The ComicBook/SilverSurfer''', as mentioned below, will show up as TheCavalry when the team goes up against [[spoiler: Thanos]]. They'd have to buy the rights to him from 20th Century Fox, but it wouldn't feel like a [[spoiler: Thanos]] movie without the Surfer.
* '''ComicBook/TheVision''' will appear, either as an original character or as [[spoiler: a resurrected Phil Coulson]], possibly as his LMD.
** Confirmed, he appeared in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''.
* '''[[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]]''' and '''ComicBook/TheWasp''', if only to quiet the fans who weren't happy about them not appearing in this movie.
** Ironically among the fans upset about that was Joss Whedon himself, so they'll no doubt be in the sequel, or at least the third film.
** Ant-Man's getting his own [[Film/AntMan film]].
** And the Wasp will show up in [[Film/AntManAndTheWasp the sequel]]!
* '''ComicBook/CaptainMarVell''' or '''ComicBook/MsMarvel'''. Since the sequel is definitely going interplanetary, it would make sense to include the Kree as alien allies of Earth. At the very least, Carol Danvers will likely be introduced as one of the team's higher-ups at SHIELD.
** Confirmed, as Marvel has announced a '''Film/CaptainMarvel''' film to be released in 2018.
* '''ComicBook/SheHulk''', if only to pad out the team's female characters, or to act as an upbeat foil for Bruce Banner.
* '''Comicbook/DoctorStrange''' will introduce elements of magic into the mostly sci-fi themed Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse, and will ultimately use a spell to help turn the tide against [[spoiler: Thanos]].
** Confirmed, as of 2016's '''Film/DoctorStrange'''
* '''ComicBook/BlackPanther''' will be introduced as a powerful African monarch who will become the team's ally when they (inevitably) get involved in some kind of international intrigue. Midway through, they'll discover that he's a powerful warrior in his own right.
** Confirmed, thanks to 2016's '''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar''' and 2018's '''Film/BlackPanther'''.
* '''Franchise/SpiderMan''', if Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan is part of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. This is the real reason the franchise was rebooted.
** Hasn't that one already be {{Jossed}} by [[ScrewedByTheLawyers Sony?]]
*** [[http://www.unleashthefanboy.com/movies/oscorp-tower-nearly-appeared-in-the-avengers/14217 Maybe not]].
** Confirmed! Spider-Man appeared in 2016's '''Film/CaptainAmericaCivilWar'''. Thanks, Sony!
* '''Ultron''' will be one of the new villains if the above Hank Pym theory becomes reality.
** Confirmed, albeit not related to Pym.
* '''Comicbook/HowardTheDuck''' will be redeemed from his last [[Film/HowardTheDuck cinematic adventure.]]
** Confirmed, in [[spoiler: TheStinger to ''Film/GuardiansOfTheGalaxy'']].
* '''[[WesternAnimation/{{Gargoyles}} Goliath]]'''. BECAUSE IT MUST HAPPEN!
** Hey, he and The Avengers are owned by the same company now. You never know...
* '''SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}'''. [[spoiler: Thanos]] seemed pretty happy at the idea of "courting death" and he, Deadpool and Death did have a love triangle once. Deadpool's gonna show up and fight for his anthropomorphic personification girl!
** Most likely jossed for now, thanks to '''ScrewedByTheLawyers FOX'''
* '''Squirrel Girl''', because Thanos, Galactus or any other Avengers-size threat will think twice if faced with endless squirrels.
* '''ComicBook/{{Mockingbird}}''', as she's both A) Massively underused and [[SugarWiki/NeedsMoreLove unappreciated]], and B) is a relatively petite, snarky badass fighter who fits Joss Whedon's usual character mold perfectly.
* '''ComicBook/{{Taskmaster}}''', same reason as Bobbi: SugarWiki/NeedsMoreLove. Also because he would be AWESOME to see in Live Action. Maybe he'll be TheDragon to the BigBad, whoever the BigBad is.
* '''Tigra''', she needs more love too. Plus She's great in the fanservice department.
** I don't think that's a viable reason for inclusion.
*** Agreed.
* ComicBook/TheSentry will be the BigBad of Avengers III, created as a military attempt at a superhero who can stand up to Thor and the Hulk.

[[WMG: The ComicBook/SilverSurfer will be a major character in the sequel]]
[[ScrewedByTheLawyers I have no idea how they would iron out the legal difficulties surrounding this]], but come on...it just wouldn't feel right [[spoiler: with ComicBook/{{Thanos}} as the villain]] but without the ComicBook/SilverSurfer. Then again, considering ''Film/FantasticFourRiseOfTheSilverSurfer'' wasn't exactly a resounding success, 20th Century Fox probably isn't that desperate to hold onto the movie rights to the character. If they really wanted to, the guys at Marvel Studios could probably buy the rights to him. And a role in ''Avengers 2'' would probably be a good lead-in to a solo ''Silver Surfer'' movie.
* I had heard that Fox was indeed trying to reboot the fantastic four. So this one looks unlikely for the near future.
* Potentially not likely. I forget what was the reason, but Marvel couldn't use Silver Surfer in the World War Hulk animated movie. It's also possible that Fox may try to continue using the Fantastic Four license to cash in on Marvel's successes. Or they could choose to be jerks and hold onto the rights as long as possible just for spite. Wouldn't be the first time a company has secured production rights just to sit on them.
* [[http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1691353/galactus-daredevil-trade.jhtml Apparently,]] Marvel is willing to extend Fox's film rights for Daredevil in exchange for the Silver Surfer and Galactus. It's not likely, but at least Marvel is considering using the characters.
** With the announcement of Marvel's Daredevil series on Netflix, it appears Marvel won't get the rights to Galactus and the Surfer that way.

[[WMG: Jane Foster wasn't being protected from Loki]]
Jane Foster was put in protective custody to protect her from Creator/JossWhedon. We know how he feels about happy relationships.

[[WMG: The Kree, ComicBook/CaptainMarVell and ComicBook/MsMarvel will appear in the next film.]]
* [[spoiler:Thanos having been revealed as the BiggerBad]] opens the door for more cosmic characters to show up, and the one that has the most history with both the Avengers and Thanos is Mar-Vell. Mar-Vell would obviously be a [[spoiler: war leader for the Kree]], but becomes an ally to the Avengers against [[spoiler: Thanos]]. However, he does not join the team proper, and instead, during the events of the film, a former Air Force and current SHIELD pilot by the name of Carol Danvers gets caught in the crossfire and ends up with powers, becoming ComicBook/MsMarvel and joining the team. Not only would she be a powerful new addition to the team, it'd also give the team a new female member(and one with superpowers, at that), which the team desperately needs since right now there's only ComicBook/BlackWidow. The team's a super-powered sausagefest right now. Oh, and for the record, she should be played by Jaime Pressly, who has the looks, physique and attitude, and the costume should be the classic black and gold with the red sash.
** This does make sense, and Marvel has been pushing Ms Marvel quite hard in recent years.
*** Actually, I think that Carol Denvers will show up as [[http://io9.com/why-marvel-needs-to-make-a-captain-marvel-movie-like-y-649149746: CAPTAIN Marvel]]

** Except, Cap missed his date with his love interest [[spoiler: When he went to sleep, about seventy years ago]]. Of course, there is [[spoiler:also Maria Hill]]. Or, maybe, Cap [[spoiler:chooses to remain... Single]].

[[WMG: Black Widow is a [[Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer Slayer]]]]
It was implied that she started learning the spying/assassin business as a kid. Traditionally when potentials are taken from their homes. It's not impossible that the Soviet/Russian government got hold of the spell to detect potentials and used it to find and train potentials, so at the very least they would have one Slayer assassin. If Black Widow as born in the mid eighties, she would have been caught in the mass activation. Also, Black Widow frequently shows superhuman physical abilities, such as surviving being smashed into a wall by the Hulk, and shows a supernatural talent for weapons aptitude (note the fact that she immediately master the Chitauri staff weapon, which is very much like the scythe of the Slayer).

** Is it? Did you look ''Really'' hard? Shes hard to spot sometimes.

[[WMG:Someone very important will die in an absolutely heartwrenching way]]

** [[spoiler:Confirmed. Fury fakes Coulson's death to "push" the team, says WordOFGod.]]

** Jossed. According to the movie tie-in storybook [[spoiler: Thor frees Loki from Cap and Iron Man's custody, so Iron Man goes to confront Thor and have a huge fight that ends when Cap steps in.]]

** Confirmed, but it's a HeartwarmingMoment because [[spoiler: Tony does an AndThisIsFor for [[HeroicSacrifice Coulson]]]] before he blasts Loki.

** [[spoiler:Nope, he fakes it so he can stab Thor.]]

** This is made rather odd [[spoiler: now that, as of ''Film/IronMan3'', [[TorchTheFranchiseAndRun Tony has discarded]] his arc reactor and suits of armor.]]

[[WMG:[[spoiler:Loki was under the influence of the Tesseract]]]]
* [[spoiler:He uses his glow stick of destiny to control Selvig and Clint through it. In both cases this control is broken by head injuries and unconsciousness.]]
* [[spoiler:Hulk [[CurbStompBattle beats him like a rag doll]] giving him a head injury and possibly knocking him out (?)]]

*** [[spoiler: The thing to remember about Loki and why he's a little more vicious in Avengers than in Thor is because 1. The Other makes it very clear good things are not in his future if he fails and 2. In Thor, he's on Asgard, with people he considers equals, and in Avengers he's on Earth, with people he views as far, far beneath him. In his own words, "An ant has no quarrel with a boot." Plus, sympathetic or no, he tried to kill a whole planet in Thor. So, yeah ... everything in Avengers made sense for Loki's character.]]

[[WMG: Black Panther will appear in the Captain America Sequel , and Doctor Strange will appear in the Thor sequel to set up appearances in Avengers 2 ]]
Stan ' the man' Lee would love those 2 in the sequel. And we know how good Marvel films are in seamlessly introducing characters even in cameos. Of course Black Panther would have a Ultimate like version with claws and Doctor Strange would have to be played by Johnny Depp.
* No. Please no. Get someone else. Depp is permanently stuck in the role of Jack Sparrow.
** Oded Fehr as Dr Strange. Isaiah Mustafa as Black Panther. Deal sealed.
** Oded Fehr makes much more sense, however I would gladly swap Isaiah for someone established like [[Series/TheWire Idris Elba]] or Creator/ChiwetelEjiofor..
** Idris Elba is already [[Film/{{Thor}} Heimdall]].

* Why do you think [[spoiler: he and Pepper are doing a redesign of Stark Tower- not just a rebuilding of it- at the end of the film.]] Also note that they don't seem to be in a hurry to put the S, T, R and K on the tower...

* Thor's "falling death trap" escape made Loki think that he truly was immortal and perhaps impervious. So why not threaten the most powerful member and prove yourself worthy? Alas, the trickster god is GenreBlind to his own schemes...
** And/or because Loki was at the end of his rope: injured, tired, disarmed, and psychologically stressed by his plan starting to unravel. He probably didn't have the energy left to do much other than monologue.

* That helicarrier that they use looks quite similar to the Valiant from the Whoniverse. So who's to say that it's not actually from the same universe? After all, both SHIELD and UNIT get involved in protecting the Earth from extraterrestrial threats. I bet they're part of the same organisation.
** Wait, SHIELD (first appearance: 1965) and the Helicarrier (again, 1965) both predate UNIT, so wouldn't it be the other way around?
*** And in setting, SHIELD's predecessor, the SSR, dates back to 1941. . .
*** Here's some food for thought: in the original comics, SHEILD maintained a special training facility called the Underground Network Training (it's in Strange Tales 159, if you must know). Eh? Eh?

[[WMG: The Avengers movie has, and the following movies will have, a subtle theme of the [[spoiler: Infinity Gems ]] ]]
* In the Avengers, Loki's Staff/spear [[spoiler: is obviously used to mess with and control minds. It also glows blue... the same color as the Mind Gem of the Infinity Gems. This is intentional, and the future movies will have subtle influences of themes such as Time, Reality, Space, Souls &/or Power. This will all be done subtly, but set up for a moment when Thanos is revealed to have been subtly messing with the heroes via the gems before he got the Infinity Gauntlet. ]]
** [[spoiler: Except we see the Infinity Gauntlet with all the gems inside Odin's treasure room in Thor. Plus Loki's staff is stated to be powered by the Tesseract.]]
*** Were those the true gems? Maybe like some artifacts placed in a museum, the Asgardians just put fake gems in the gauntlet for display purposes. And about the staff, it is speculated to use the same type of energy used by the Tesseract, not necessarily powered by the Tesseract itself. Captain America says it's like one of Hydra's energy weapons more than anything.
*** Except they weren't in a display, they were in a weapons vault guarded by the Destroyer and the other artifacts in there are real. And Selvig says the control rod is powered by the Tesseract to the Black Widow. And Hydra's weapons were powered by the Tesseract.
** [[spoiler: I'm working on the theory the other things in the trophy room were more just 'fandom nods' than 'it's true continuity'. Even if so, if you compare the [[http://img864.imageshack.us/img864/5618/thorinfinitygauntlet.jpg comic-con Marvel prop images of the Gauntlet ]] [[http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/8947/odinsvaultthor550x508.jpg to the movie version]] .... a large blue gem on the back of the palm is missing. ]]
*** Except that's not the version actually in the movie, the version in Thor has the big blue gem in it [[http://www.10mfh.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Thor-Movie-Infinity-Gauntlet-Hi-Res.png]].
*** To my knowledge, there has been no specific indication of how much time has passed between ''Thor'' and ''The Avengers''. But clearly, some time has passed. In the meantime, the Gauntlet has been sitting in Odin's vault, a vault that has recently been robbed of its primary guardian after Thor trashed the Destroyer. And the guy who would want the Gauntlet happens to have as his minion, a trickster god who knows several back doors into Asgard that could get him in and out without being noticed. Keep in mind, we have no idea what is going on in Asgard after Thor's movie ends. There's a very good chance that something happened in the meantime.

* It's not immediately obvious, since at first Tony displays few of TheHeart's sterling qualities: he's aggressively arrogant with almost everyone he meets here, he rushes in headfirst and brushes off early attempts at battle planning and teamwork, and half his teammates don't like him (Steve, Thor) or find him exasperating (Natasha, Fury, Coulson).
** But Tony's also the most insistent that SHIELD be honest with its intentions, that advanced technology should not be made into weapons, and that the Avengers are not soldiers or weapons to be deployed blindly at government will.
** He's the first person to genuinely reach out to Bruce Banner with empathy and respect, encouraging him to accept his "condition" as a gift that can help people. Tony's the only person who believes Bruce will join them for the final battle, [[spoiler: and Bruce does show up, with the implication that ThePowerOfFriendship from Tony helped inspire him.]]
** Finally, the climax of the final battle is [[spoiler: Tony's apparent death by HeroicSacrifice, with the focus on the team's reaction to his loss.]]
** Tony's role as TheHeart is complicated: Tony's breaking the team apart more often than bringing it together like a proper Heart, and he shares the role with [[spoiler: Coulson as the SacrificialLion and]] Steve, who as TheGoodCaptain is always the moral center of the Avengers. But while TheHero Steve keeps the team together, TheLancer Tony made sure the team was worth forming in the first place.

* [[http://theavengersshop.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Avengers-nick-fury.jpg If you look at Nick Fury]] in Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}, his left eye seems to have something similar to what Stark was going through in ''Film/IronMan2''. It may have to do with why he has an [[EyepatchOfPower eyepatch]]. This will probably be elaborated on in later movies, most likely in Avengers 2.
** Not intending to burst a potentially-good plot detail, but [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Nick_Fury the design for Ultimate Nick Fury]] (which Creator/SamuelLJackson lent his likeness to in the beginning) has that nasty scar lines around his eye socket too. It might be that Fury's [[NoodleIncident past missions]] were simply [[WarIsHell that hellish]]. Hey, after all, we did see the All-Father Odin with a [[EyeScream nasty, empty eye socket]] in ''{{Film/Thor}}''.
** Hmm. He does have a scar in ''Film/IronMan2'', but looking at [[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6YBW5OgZA4E/S7XVmmqnxUI/AAAAAAAAAOc/2favEVIK9Mc/s1600/Iron+Man+2+Nick+Fury.jpg him from Iron Man 2]], compared to how he looks in ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'', that scar looks worse in Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}. I just can't shake the feeling that something is going on with it.
** The major part of the scar, constant between the movies, is a set of three parallel slashes. Since his film rights are owned by Fox, he can't be mentioned, but can you think of a notorious person within the larger Marvel Universe who might have been likely to give Fury a wound of that nature? I'll bet you can, bub.

* Ok. At the end of ''The First Avenger'', Skull is burnt alive by the Tesseract and undergoes what looks a lot like a Bifrost transport. ''The Avengers'' establishes that the Tesseract can open a portal to the far reaches of space. The theory is that Skull is transported to wherever [[spoiler: Thanos and the Chitauri]] hail from, whereupon [[spoiler: Thanos]] takes him on as a servant. The Other's physical dissimilarities to Skull can be explained however one likes- genetic alteration, damage from the Tesseract itself or the transportion process. His age (and continued survival after seventy years) can be explained by Erskin's serum, which was explictly mentioned to provide Cap's cells with a protective layer of healing (hence why he can't get drunk).
** Isn't that an awful lots of arbitrary 'could be explained by'? I think its much more likely that [[spoiler: The Other is a true Chitauri. The soldiers were bio-androids, or perhaps cyber-zombies; weapons, IOW, rather than people]].
** If the [[spoiler:Other were the ComicBook/RedSkull, then he shouldn't have been as unfamiliar with humanity as he was before the invasion. Lines like "Humans... they are not the cowering wretches we were promised" point to him not being human, and thus being unfamiliar with them.]]

[[WMG: Tony knows [[spoiler: Coulson is not dead]] ]]
* Tony seems to have a revelation when looking at [[spoiler:the bloodstain Coulson left on the wall]] right before he starts on his rant about Loki's ego being similar to his own. Maybe he was beginning to suspect that Fury was lying about [[spoiler: Coulson's death]]. Additionally during his talk with Loki, Tony uses present tense to refer to [[spoiler: Coulson (eg. "His name *is* Phil", not "His name *was* Phil")]]. Now this could just be nothing but still, it's odd. He was also one of the first people to suspect Fury was lying about [[spoiler: what they were doing with the Tesseract.]]
** Also, [[spoiler:the Life Model Decoy was mentioned offhand by Tony earlier in the film, confirming their existence in the MCU. Fury also says that he has a "good friend" keeping an eye on Jane. Who better to do the job than Coulson? The LMD allowed him to be in two places at once.]]
** According to the closed captions for the movie, Tony used the word 'was'. Just for perspective's sake.

* By SHIELD, [[WeCanRebuildHim to save his life]] (and have a trustworthy superhuman as a nice bonus). Or maybe having been [[spoiler:stabbed by a magic glowing pointy thing]] has nasty side effects. One way or another, he'll become orange, superpowered, and eventually be instrumental to defeating [[spoiler:Thanos]]. And yes, this assumes [[spoiler:Loki's spear]] has an [[spoiler:Infinity Gem]], as per another WMG above.

[[WMG: The next move of [[spoiler: Thanos will be to strike at Asgard.]]]]
* Very basic reasoning. The Tesseract can open a door to [[spoiler: Thanos']] area of space, from either end. At the end of the Avengers, both the Tesseract and [[spoiler: Thanos']] Infinity Gauntlet are sitting ''in Asgard'', he's got an obvious motivation to get his hands on both objects, and Earth has just shown it's not an easy target, so [[spoiler: Thanos]] is unlikely to strike it again soon without his cosmic toys. What do you want to bet the plot of Thor 2 or Avengers 2 involves an invasion of Asgard by [[spoiler: Thanos']] minions?
** [[spoiler: It probably won't be ''Thor 2'' as [[http://www.aceshowbiz.com/news/view/00050369.html Kevin Feige says that it will be 'very singular']]. Of course it's possible that could be used as TheStinger for ''Thor 2''. ]]

* When Selvig asks Barton where the mooks came from, Barton mentions that SHIELD has plenty of enemies. In the comics 'verse, this is usually HYDRA or AIM, and since HYDRA was dismantled during [=WW2=]...
** Presuming, of course, that remnants of HYDRA didn't survive and continue to be a pain for the SSR and its successor, SHIELD.

* The only close one from the comics I can think of is Elizabeth "Betsy" Ross, and she was around in [=WW2=] not modern era. (IIRC some retcon places her as grandma of Hulk's GF Betty Ross). But of course the movies have combined characters before (Whiplash/Crimson Dynamo & I'd say movie Red Skull is a combo of RS & Zemo. So it could be Betsy combined with some modern love interest of Cap)

* Greek and Middle Eastern restaurants will attract many more customers. Panda Express will petition to have fried rice mentioned in the Avengers 2 movie.
** [[http://www.slashfilm.com/lol-the-avengers-leads-increased-sales-shawarma/ Confirmed???]]

When Loki is overwhelming New York from space, this member, let's call him/her M, knew that the Avengers needed some help, or else they'd be overwhelmed, and the biggest explosive he/she could think of was a nuke. M knew that the other members would not take well to the suggestion "Let's hand a weapon of mass destruction to this team of guys we hardly know, who already have superpowers", and so M suggested, or subtly manipulated another member into suggesting, to stem the tide by [[spoiler: nuking New York, as M's way of saying: "Hey Avengers, here's a nuke. Do whatever you want with it."]], and then took the fall with the rest of the council. So, the real hero of the story is an unnamed World Council member, who knew what needed to be done and made a HeroicSacrifice, politician style.

[[WMG: The US government will turn to [[spoiler: studying Chitauri tech now that the tesseract has been returned to Asgard]] ]]
[[spoiler: Though the tesseract is out of humanity's reach, they still have the corpses of all these biomechanical alien monsters littering New York. Fury didn't appear opposed to the idea of the Phase Two weaponry either, so it's entirely possible that with the tesseract gone, the US will turn to trying to reverse-engineer new technology from the remains of Loki's Chitauri warriors in its place.]]
* Seemingly confirmed by the animated background for Item 47. [[spoiler: Which depicts the process of Shield converting the only active Chitauri weapon on the planet into a series of personal and vehicle mounted energy weapons in a manner similar to the destroyer cannon.]]

* They are going to be reverse engineered Chitauri laser muskets mounted onto her braclets to give her some more oomph in future films. It might not be in her movie seeing as how there has been talk of an origin prequel but maybe in something else. Like Iron Man 3 or the Avengers 2.

* This explains why it was [[NoOntologicalInertia so easy to defeat the Chitauri army]] just by [[spoiler: bombing the small Chitauri base which was just outside the bridge from Earth]]. All [[spoiler: Thanos]] was interested in was the Tesseract. It's entirely possible that once Loki delivered it to him, the Chitauri army would be automatically shut down and Loki would be free to try to rule Earth on his own. After all, what's one primitive world to the [[spoiler: Mad Titan]]?
** Or they were planning to [[YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness kill him after they were done using him as an errand boy]]. It'd be a bit of a liability to keep alive a powerful and unstable former ally who has a perfectly good reason to not like you very much.

It looks like he chose to stay down when the Hulk smacked him down. But then the Hulk left....He could have at least turned invisible. But he had just failed [[spoiler: Thanos]]. The Other did say there was no place he could hide. Well, the safest place would be in an Asgard Prison.

* Its teleportation effect, like that of the Bifrost Gate, is very similar to that of a mass relay. The bio-synthetic Chitauri are using their conquest of Earth as a smokescreen for the ''real'' reason they want the Tesseract: they are the Cinematic Universe's version of Collectors, and intend to open the way for the Reaper fleet.

[[WMG: The Sequel will feature another team of superheroes...]]
* ... ComicBook/{{Nextwave}}, Agents of Hate. Because that'd be awesome.

[[WMG: In Avengers 2, Loki will be the Avengers' [[SilenceOfTheLambs Hannibal Lecter]] ]]
Since he's the only one who had contact with [[spoiler: Thanos]] who will probably be the BigBad in Avengers 2, the Avengers will have to [[ConsultingAConvictedKiller go to him for information]] on [[spoiler: Thanos]] and how he works. Loki will probably be his [[{{Troll}} normal self]] around them, but [[EnemyMine might be motivated to help]] since the Chitauri warned him that if he failed to get them the Tesseract then they would find him and take vengeance on him.
* Besides, giving him that [[MythologyGag mouth-gag]] in the custody of the [[Creator/AnthonyHopkins original Hannibal Lecter himself]] is just too sweet to pass up.
* [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome YES]]
* Yes and no [[spoiler: Loki helps Thor in his sequel but isn't going to be in Avengers 2]].

[[WMG: Nick Fury will use a LaserBlade in the next film.]]
And it will be [[PurpleIsPowerful purple]], mainly as a [[ActorAllusion reference]] to Creator/SamuelLJackson's role as [[StarWars Mace Windu]].

I mean c'mon, some people do know that Deadpool and Death have a thing. And the only who stands between them is [[spoiler: Thanos]]

[[WMG: The Tesseract originally belonged to [[spoiler: Thanos]]]]
That's why he knows about it and wants to back. Thousands of years ago, he and the forces of Asgard fought, the Asguardians regarding [[spoiler: Thanos]] as an upstart who thought himself a god. During the battle, [[spoiler: Thanos]] lost the Cube to Odin, who after keeping it for a time, left it on Earth or lost it in the battle with the frost giants. What's really dangerous is that [[spoiler: Thanos]] is the only one who knows the Cube's true power of RealityWarping. If he gets it back he could wish half the universe dead. The gemstone that he gives to Loki was an attempt to replicate the cube's power.

If his movie will come out before any other, and if [[spoiler: Thanos]] will make an appearence.

* I had a similar thought. Considering how risky the invasion plan was to begin with (YMMV on that, but see the Headscratchers page for a long, long discussion of its flaws), Unless Loki [[VillainBall got dumber between movies]], he was probably aware all along that his plan could easily fail and even if it succeeded he'd just be a vassal to a BiggerBad that was strong and getting even stronger. But directly due to Loki's attack in this movie, a confrontation between [[spoiler: Thanos]] and the Avengers is likely. If the Avengers win, then the force that traumatized Loki in unspecified ways between movies has been punished and there's a cosmic EvilPowerVacuum he can step into. If [[spoiler: Thanos]] wins, Earth is really, really doomed, so Loki would have RevengeByProxy on Thor for the events of [[{{Film/Thor}} Thor]]. Either way, Loki arguably winds up ''better off'' than if his invasion had won.

* Wouldn't that require that Tony be in on it pretty quickly?

* Who better to run a law-enforcement agency than a badass ex-gangster who has dedicated his life to protecting others? In the interim he shaved his head and lost an eye somehow.

* Yes, a deconstruction of a deconstruction. Does that make it a reconstruction? I have no idea. But besides the issues of the theatrical posters being nigh-identical, there's also Loki's lip service to the idea of essentially frightening the world into peace by making all of humanity worship him (the film version of ''Watchmen'' ends with the world being terrified into peace out of fear from retribution from [[PhysicalGod Dr. Manhattan]]). He may have been intended as a dismantling of the more noble, NecessarilyEvil archetype presented by Ozymandias- the kind of person who'd think peace bought through fear is worthwhile very likely ''would'' be more like Loki than like Ozymandias, crazed and dangerous rather than analytical and basically willing to break his own moral code for what he sees as a genuine greater good. However, the ending also criticizes ''actually'' thinking like Ozymandias, which is what the Council does in their decision to nuke New York because it ''might'' stop the Chitauri (just like Ozymandias was willing to psychic-bomb New York in the original graphic novel and essentially nuke 15 major world cities in the film because it ''might have'' prevented WWIII).
** This is awesome. The parallels are definitely there, whether they're intentional or not.

[[WMG: Scarlet Witch will appear in the next Avengers movie, tying it together with the ''[[Film/XMenFilmSeries X-Men]]'' movies]]
She will be introduced escaping a Insane Asylum to warn SHIELD about the new movie's villian. No one will believe her so she will use her powers over chance and probability force ridiculously unlikely circumstances to bring the Avengers together at the right place and time to face the threat. She will also rant about and make references to [[MythologyGag events and people from the comic book universe]] including her [[ComicBook/YoungAvengers two non-existent sons]], everyone will dismisses it as mad delusions.
* Scarlet Witch is confirmed to appear in ''Avengers 2'' but it will not tie in the the ''X-Men'' movies. In fact, Quicksilver will appear without Scarlet Witch in ''Film/XMenDaysOfFuturePast''.

[[WMG:With things suddenly taking a turn for the worse, Coulson was so dedicated to the cause and desperate to get the team to start working together that he went into his encounter with Loki ''knowing'' full well that [[spoiler: he wouldn't make it out.]]]]

** {{Jossed}}. She'll be back for ''Thor: The Dark World'' to reprise her role from the first ''Thor'' movie.

Loki tells Thor he remembers being "thrown" into the Abyss, but Thor was there was he let himself fall. Why lie about it to someone who already knew the truth unless he really believed it? We know the Other already has a powerful link to Loki's mind and he makes threats about how there's no place Loki can hide; altering his memories seems well within their power, not to mention that the greatest threat against ''any'' possible outcome of The Other's plan would be if Loki just told Thor, "I'm being coerced and I need help", and making ''absolutely'' sure that Loki feels completely isolated is the best way to keep that from happening.

[[WMG: Ghost Rider will make an appearence]]
They're in the same universe! And this troper can dream that Robert Downey Jr. and Nicolas Cage will be in the same movie.

[[WMG: The Guardians of the Galaxy will appear in ''Avengers 2'']]
* They've been confirmed for their own film, so why not base it on their storyline in ''The Thanos Imperative''? This could tie in with the Deadpool and Ms Marvel {{WMG}}s, and make up for the fact that the Silver Surfer is unlikely to get a look-in.

[[WMG: ''Avengers 3'' will deal with the Civil War storyline]]
''The Avengers'' is being followed by a 'Phase 2' rollout of Marvel characters (Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, The Inhumans, Black Panther...). ''Captain America'' 2 has the subtitle ''The Winter Soldier'', so Bucky may turn up. ''Thor'' 2 will have a non-Loki BigBad, and this troper has made the case for Pepper becoming Rescue in ''Iron Man 3'' over on the ''WMG/IronMan'' WMG page. On top of this, ''Avengers 2'' will deal with [[spoiler: Thanos]] and Marvel are trying to get Sony to agree to Spiderman characters appearing in future ''Avengers'' movies. Logically, Avengers 2 will be followed by a Phase 3. At this point, the Avengers will have fought one of the biggest bads in the Marvel Universe ''and'' there'll be loads of other Marvel heroes (including other Avengers) with their own movies. How do you top that? Pit them all off against each other! The groundwork for this is already being laid: look at the end of ''The Avengers'' with the Senator saying the heroes should pay for the damage they caused. Plus it'll give Joss the chance to kill off loads of characters...
* You must have missed the part where a) half the Marvel heroes are owned by other companies, b) A SHRA would make no sense because almost every single Avenger's identity is public and/or has an extensive SHIELD file, and c) Civil War was a revolting explosion of diarrhea all over the characters and no one outside of a handful of comic fans would ever want to see a villain-less film where superheroes try to kill and imprison each other over convoluted politics and act like massive dicks and the evil side wins in the end. Such a movie would spectacularly bomb and utterly destroy the studio's reputation forever. Not to mention it's impossible to fit that storyline and that many characters into a 2.5 hour movie.
** The above poster who responded to the OP needs to a) calm down and address his fellow tropers with less hostility and b) remember that while a small number of (albeit very famous) members of the Marvel roster are currently tied up the only ones who aren't soon collapsing back to Marvel in their entirety are the X-Men and Spider-Man. The Daredevil and Fantastic Four reboots seem to have gotten stuck in development hell and its very much possible that Marvel can start putting them in their movies again within the next half decade. The real reason Avengers 3 will not be about the SHRA is because setting up the universe to be big enough for a proper Civil War will probably take longer than it would take for Avengers 3 to get released. By that time Marvel may have brokered a deal with Sony for Spider-Man to make appearances and an SHRA plot without the X-Men would make more sense anyway. The only way you could make the non-mutant heroes not look like horrible people for flat out ignoring the MRA is either for it to either never have existed or for it to get changed into an SHRA about and hour after its introduced when someone in the house points out that Spider-Man could pose just as much of a threat to the average citizen as Cyclops.
*** All of the above points are valid reasons why doing a Civil War movie would be ill-advised. Despite this, the producers are actually [[http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/GraphicCity/news/?a=58300 talking about it.]] Is this something we should be worried about? Too soon to tell. If it does happen it will be a long, long ways off and keep in mind [[AintNoRule there's no law that says]] they have to be incredibly faithful to the comics story - they could do any number of things to improve it and make it work for the big screen. Do I think they can salvage it completely? No. But if they do end up doing Civil War, there's no use complaining about it until we see where they go with it.
*** As the troper who posted the original {{WMG}}, can I just say "called it!"? I never said I thought an SHRA storyline would be a ''good thing'', what happened was that I was reading an issue of (I think) ''Total Film'' magazine, although it might have been ''Empire'', and they were listing all of the confirmed Phase 2 rollout, talking about scripts in development for Phase 3 and discussing the attempts to buy back the rights to other characters, including a potential compromise with Sony where they keep the rights to Spidey but he cameos in MCU films. As I was reading this, it hit me that if I were a Hollywood executive, I'd figure that the best way to get a massive draw for ''Avengers 3'' (or perhaps 4) would be to use a dumbed-down version of the ''Civil War'' plot: plenty of big CGI, famous-actor-hero vs famous-actor-hero fights (come on, they even worked them into Avengers 1!) etc, etc. I figured they'd be at least ''considering'' it, and if it does go ahead, we'll have to wait and see before we damn it, but I'm inclined to agree to the utterly furious reply to my original post in terms of it being an awful idea.

[[WMG: Thanos' plan in Avengers 2...]]
* ... will be to awaken the Dreaming Celestial on Earth. Thanos loves death, literally, and his plans usually involve some form or mass murder or genocide to appease it. He's interested in Earth because the Dreaming Celestial, an ancient, all powerful cosmic being, was imprisoned there by the other members of it's order for wanting to cleanse the planet of all life. Thanos would see facilitating that as a massive tribute to death. He tested the waters with Loki and the Chitauri to see how much of a fight Earth would put if he tried to see if it was feasible, and the ass kicking the Avengers dished out as well as the existence of SHIELD has convinced him to A) Kill the Avengers or otherwise get them out of the way first, and B) do it covertly instead of through and outright invasion. The sequel would then boil down to him breaking the team apart and crushing their spirits through brutal, personalized attacks and then waking this ancient evil to end the Earth, with a one on one duel with one of the Avengers in the climax as the creature rises. So basically season two of Buffy. :o

[[WMG: Avengers 2 will star the Masters of Evil]]
Crossbones is confirmed; he would most likely appear as part of a villain team, probably under his master. Who is almost certainly *not* Thanos. :p
* It's also entirely possible that the line up for the team will be The Abomination (still alive as of the end of The Incredible Hulk), The Leader (teased at th end of TIH), Loki (assuming Thanos assembles the team), Red Skull (assuming he really did survive the events of the Captain America movie) and [[spoiler: Aldrich Killian (again assuming he survived the explosion)]], all of which are assembled by Thanos, his reasoning behind it being to gather the "world's greatest villains" to battle the Avengers. Basically to stay in the shadows for as long as possible.

[[WMG: They will introduce another major villain in Avengers 2 for the human Avengers to fight.]]
[[spoiler: Because, Tony, Steve, Clint and Natasha would stand absolutely no chance against Thanos. So, they'll introduce another major Marvel villain as Thanos' [[TheDragon Dragon]] so that they can fight him while Thor, Hulk and the Guardians fight Thanos.]]

The plan was for Loki to find a force that was considerable, but something the Avengers were capable of handling. Thus labeling Earth as a danger to possible invaders looking for a "higher form of war." For an extra bonus, the Tessaract was removed from Earth to lessen future attacks. As for Loki, he played the part of the cackling villain to attract the attention of the Avengers - in exchange for a clear path back to Asgard.

[[WMG: Again, similar to the above: Loki planned the entire invasion to fail in an attempt to stop [[spoiler: Thanos]] on his own.]]
A lot of people have said that Loki didn't seem to be as ahead of the game as he was in the first Thor film (and then later in Thor 2). But what if he planned it that way? Tony made some good points to Loki about the invasion which he really should have known. What if he had meant for it to fail? Theory: When he first met [[spoiler: Thanos]], he realized [[spoiler: how mad the Titan truly was]] so decided to work against him, figuring that maybe he might be able to get something out of it in the long run and also preventing the universe from getting destroyed (there'd be nothing left for him to rule, otherwise). So he went along with [[spoiler: Thanos's]] plan, acted more pathetic than usual in order for the plan to fail, and in the end, the Tesseract was kept out of [[spoiler: Thanos's]] reach (along with the staff, if that's really [[spoiler: the Mind Stone]]). Getting captured and taken back to Asgard was just an added bonus, and he was able to work things out for himself from there. It's also why [[spoiler: he sent the Aether to the Collector in Thor 2; to keep that out of Thanos's reach, too]].
* [[As a bonus, the Collector WILL try to collect the entire set (thats in his name!): the Asgardians only have to watch Taneleer to learn where the other Stones are, instead of diverting their own precious resources from the reconstruction.]]

[[WMG: Cap's shield was made from a molten down enchanted asgardian weapon, mixed with vibranium]]
As such, it has a number of the same properties seen in mjolnir, albeit to a lesser degree. Most notably, the effects from throwing it are amplified, as it moves faster and more accurately than seems possible. Second, it has a propensity for returning to its users' hand if the user wills it. Unlike mjolnir, it doesn't outright fly through the air when summoned, but it still allows some of the more impossible throws where the shield somehow returns to caps' hand. This would also explain why cap's shield seems to make a noise sometimes, similar to mjolnir.

[[WMG: At some point in the films, it will reveal Fury is actually Nick Fury ''Jr'']]
Based on how they brought in a Creator/SamuelLJackson-looking Fury for the main comics, Nick Fury will at some point need help from a one eyed, cigar smoking old crank-his dad, Nick Fury ''Sr'', who stays alive via the Infinity Formula, was formerly in charge of SHIELD before his son, and is played by Liam Neeson (even though Neeson is 4 years younger than Jackson, but we can ignore that using the Infinity Formula explanation). This should please fans of the comic who had a mixed reaction to Fury being replaced by his son: In doing so, it will mean Marvel will try to tie i with this by still featuring the original Fury, pleasing the fans who proffered him to his son.
[[WMG: Black Widow and Hawkeye are actually Kim Possible and Ron Stoppable]]
S.H.I.E.L.D. recruited them but because they were so famous they had to take on new identities so as not to draw attention to themselves. Ron took up archery and the whole ‘red in my ledger’ was just a way to get ‘Natasha’ some infamy since she didn’t really exist. They explain their connection to each other by saying he brought her in to the organization. Oh, and Mr. Barkin’s name wasn’t actually Mr. Barkin, it was Phil Coulson. He was planted in their high school to keep an eye on them and introduce them to S.H.I.E.L.D. when he thought they were ready. That’s why he’s their handler, he’s had the most experience with them.
[[WMG: The main character of the film is Black Widow.]]
No, seriously. It all adds up.
* Explain how.
[[WMG: Avengers 2 will be all about our heroes' trip to Shawarma's.]]
* It'll be a three and a half hour long film of the most awkward dinnertime small talk you've ever seen.
[[WMG: Harry Dean Stanton's character isn't a random security guard]]
* His one scene just seemed [[AmbiguousSituation vaguely weird]], probably due to being the only one he appears in. He might be some kind of supernatural [[BuffySpeak something or other]] trying to guide Banner back onto the hero's path so he could help save the day.
[[WMG: The police chief who asks why he should take orders from Captain America is Gilmore Hodge's son.]]
* There's a fair chance that Hodge is actually from the New York area, if not the city itself. He and the police chief bear a passing resemblance, and the idea of Cap ordering around the descendant of someone who bullied him is too beautifully ironic to pass up. If Hodge fathered a child maybe twenty years after Cap went under, that'd work just fine.
[[WMG: Loki Descending Into Madness...]]
* Someone has already WMGed about the possibility that Loki falling off of Bifrost during Thor may have driven him insane. With the recently released Iron Man 3, one huge plot element is Tony having severe anxiety attacks and PTSD from being in that wormhole for ''a few seconds''. I'd say the theory about Loki is now confirmed.
** We're still missing some information here. We don't know what Loki was exposed to between the end of Thor and the start of The Avengers. We do know that Tony Stark flew through the portal carrying a nuclear missile that was going to go off at any second, and that he came very close to dying. The parallel still does lend some credence to the theory, but it's possible that their respective conditions were caused by things besides just being in the wormhole.
*** In another theory...

[[WMG: Tony's PTSD will be brought up in The Avengers 2. ]]

He will bring back phantoms of the Red Skull (assuming he died), the Iron Monger, [[spoiler: Aldrich Killian]], Whiplash, and whoever the hell else he wants to to help take out the Avengers.

[[WMG: Loki is a DeathSeeker in The Avengers.]]
* It's very simple. Loki tried to commit suicide at the end of "Thor". While he's still carrying on his plan in The Avengers, almost every single time he deals with someone in a position to kill him, he goes all out to be a JerkAss. He goes on fighting Cap even with the Quin Jet ready to cut him in half with their chaingun. He pushes Thor's buttons all through their initial chat. He mouths off to Nick Fury, who's just indicated that he could easily kill Loki. He tries to terrorize the Black Widow. He nails Coulson right in front of Thor and then acts all swaggery about it, just to irritate Thor. He all but invites Tony to fight him at Stark Tower. He stabs Thor in response to an offer of "let's work together", and when Thor doesn't kill him, he throws himself off the building. He rides around on a Chitauri chariot, which is just perfect for getting shot down. And then, when faced with the Hulk, tries to piss him off and doesn't even bother to defend himself. As one last act of assholery, with Barton's probably explosive arrow pointed right in his face, he makes a smart remark about having a drink. He is trying to commit SuicideByCop throughout the entire movie.
** I Like this theory, except I wouldn't go so far as to say he was trying to commit SuicideByCop,as he clearly still wants to win throughout the whole film. I Don't think it's so much he wanted to die, he just didn't care if he did.

* Their weapons are flashy, but not very [[AwesomeButImpractical practical]]. The plasma beams could do a fair amount of damage, although it does seem like a human being could survive a direct hit (although the human taking said hit was Captain America). However, their blasts have a LONG travel time, which would give them some major problems in anything but Urban combat. The flying bike things are very agile (only Iron man could out fly them) but their only offensive weapons are two of the blasters at the front of the bike, plus a rifleman chained to the back. Essentially, they have the same weapon arrangements as biplanes. It would be almost impossible for one to take out, say a modern jet in a dogfight (let alone able to fend off over the horizon heat seeking missiles).
* They don't even seem to bother with armor. Over the course of the battle, the footsoldiers are killed very easily by handguns, a ''bow'', and a '''fist''' (not just the big green one either). The only things that were hard to take down, the space whales, could only really attack things either by dropping off troops, or ramming into things. They do have some notable weak spots, such as their unarmored faces.

* They are starting their invasion in a nation that spends more on it's military than the next ten nations combined. By the time the battle of New York was over, only some ground troops and humvees had managed to help out (most likely because S.H.I.E.L.D. ordered that the city be nuked and told the US army to stay clear). Yet, an entire invasion force was stopped in it's tracks by three super powered beings and two completely normal (although highly exceptional) agents. If that army faced off against an actual military force, the aliens would of been the ones to court death.
** Well (and this is extreme [=WMGing=]) maybe those troops they sent to New York were just shock troops, meant to inspire terror before the REAL Chitauri troops came in to take over. It's like what the US did in Iraq; a shock-and-awe campaign followed by the real deal. Maybe they wanted to test our response time (an hour before the National Guard can deploy?) Of course, the real invasion never came because Iron Man sent that missile straight into the fleet that would've launched it.

* They were an undead army, made up of [[spoiler: Thanos' victims]]. Given that he's really into death and doesn't seem to be all that interested in subjugating anyone if he can just go ahead and kill them, using cybernetic implants/exoskeletons to create an army of semi-intelligent fighting corpses seems both practical and economical. When the EMP shorted them out, it didn't change anything, it just ruined their ability to keep moving.

* ''The Age of Ultron'' trailer says thee nay.

[[WMG: In a future MCU film, Thor and some companions will be attacked by a furious ''Triceratops''.]]
And after he knocks it out with one well-practiced hammer blow, he'll look puzzled and remark that Coulson told him [[CallARabbitASmeerp they didn't have bilgesnips on Earth]].

* Natasha's dialogue with Loki implies that Clint had a hand in bringing her on board with SHIELD, having opted to recruit her rather than kill her. Obviously, the people she betrayed wouldn't be very happy about that, so they sent agents to kill her and Clint helped her fight them off. This idea has support from ''Film/CaptainAmericaTheWinterSoldier'', where Pierce mentions her actions in Bduapest as something she might not want the public to know, implying she did something horrible there and SHIELD buried it (possibly in return for her cooperation). This would cast her comment about it in a new light: She's thinking of Budapest because fighting side by side with Clint again reminds her of the old days.

* [[WMG: The Galaga SHIELD agent is a HYDRA mole.]]

Since hitting Hawkeye and the other guy (forget his name) in the head snapped them back to sanity, and if the theory of Loki being controlled by the scepter is correct ...well...the hulk smashing him most DEFENETLY would have knocked some sense into him if that is the case.

* I think they would use [[spoiler:NickiMinaj]] as Wasp.

* '''{{Spider-Man}}''', if Film/TheAmazingSpiderMan is part of the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse. This is the real reason the franchise was rebooted.

[[WMG: Scarlet Witch will appear in the next Avengers movie, tying it together with the ''Film/XMen'' movies]]

* Besides, giving him that [[MythologyGag mouth-gag]] in the custody of the [[AnthonyHopkins original Hannibal Lecter himself]] is just too sweet to pass up.

[[WMG: SHIELD has access to alien technology.]]

*** They do, however, have the rights to the Avengers, and Beast has been both. The fact that Quicksilver is confirmed for both the next X-Men movie and the next Avengers movie, the possibility that Beast might show up later still exists. Apparently there is a loophole in the rights that allows this sort of thing, just so long as the MCU doesn't use the M-word.

* ''Film/XMenFirstClass'' may or may not be in continuity with these films (they sure as hell aren't in continuity with the other X-men films), but it's not outright stated. It's possible that future Spider-Man and X-Men films will make reference to the Avengers or the the events of this film without the characters actually showing up, at least not until Marvel can get the rights to them back.

Now you may be thinking, "But Fox currently holds the right to use mutants." But that isn't necessarily the complete truth. Kevin Feige [[http://movies.ign.com/articles/122/1223433p1.html brought this up at the red carpet premiere.]] According to him, both Marvel and Fox have rights to Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver jointly. I'm guessing the deal is that Marvel can't refer to them as 'mutants' and connect them to Magneto or the X-Men in any way, while Fox can't refer to them as being associated with The Avengers.

[[WMG: Scarlet Witch will appear in the next Avengers movie, tying it together with the ''Film/{{X-Men}}'' movies]]

* When Selvig asks Barton where the mooks came from, Barton mentions that SHIELD has plenty of enemies. In the comics 'verse, this is usually HYDRA or AIM, and since HYDRA was dismantled during WW2...

* The only close one from the comics I can think of is Elizabeth "Betsy" Ross, and she was around in WW2 not modern era. (IIRC some retcon places her as grandma of Hulk's GF Betty Ross). But of course the movies have combined characters before (Whiplash/Crimson Dynamo & I'd say movie Red Skull is a combo of RS & Zemo. So it could be Betsy combined with some modern love interest of Cap)

** Confirmed, he will appear in ''Film/AvengersAgeOfUltron''.

** [[http://io9.com/why-marvel-needs-to-make-a-captain-marvel-movie-like-y-649149746: I vote for a Captain Marvel movie to introduce her as an individual character first]] and then integrate her into the team.

** Disney's movie wiki states that a Doctor Strange movie is being planned. No release year is set though.

** Confirmed.

** Oded Fehr makes much more sense, however I would gladly swap Isaiah for someone established like [[{{TheWire}} Idris Elba]] or Creator/ChiwetelEjiofor..

She will be introduced escaping a Insane Asylum to warn SHIELD about the new movie's villian. No one will believe her so she will use her powers over chance and probability force ridiculously unlikely circumstances to bring the Avengers together at the right place and time to face the threat. She will also rant about and make references to [[MythologyGag events and people from the comic book universe]] including her [[YoungAvengers two non-existent sons]], everyone will dismisses it as mad delusions.

* '''[[ComicBook/AntMan Hank Pym]]''' and '''TheWasp''', if only to quiet the fans who weren't happy about them not appearing in this movie.

S.H.I.E.L.D. recruited them but because they were so famous they had to take on new identities so as not to draw attention to themselves. Ron took up archery and the whole ‘red in my ledger’ was just a way to get ‘Natasha’ some infamy since she didn’t really exist. They explain their connection to each other by saying he brought her in to the organization. Oh, and Mr. Barkin’s name wasn’t actually Mr. Barkin, it was Phil Coulson. He was planted in their high school to keep an eye on them and introduce them to S.H.I.E.L.D. when he thought they were ready. That’s why he’s their handler, he’s had the most experience with them.

* '''TheVision''' will appear, either as an original character or as [[spoiler: a resurrected Phil Coulson]], possibly as his LMD.

*** [[spoiler:Jossed. The alien army, according to WordOfGod are the "Chitauri" from the UltimateMarvel universe. (Yes, even if they're InNameOnly...)]]

* Alternately, Cap will die through some honorable means, and his shield will be imbued with the same magic as Mjölnir. Since Vance Astro is bound to appear in GuardiansOfTheGalaxy, he will be the next person to be worthy to wile it.

[[WMG: ''Film/{{The Avengers|2012}}'' will have massive cameos for future Avengers members]]

** Confirmed, in [[spoiler: TheStinger to GuardiansOfTheGalaxy]].

[[WMG: The GuardiansOfTheGalaxy will appear in Avengers 2]]