History WMG / TengenToppaGurrenLagannCrossoverTheories

[[WMG: Spiral Power is a manifestation of TheForce, or vice-versa.]]

*** The Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse makes it clear that there are really many ways of looking at TheForce, not just the Light Side and the Dark Side. Spiral Energy could very well be an entirely different side.

Mimetic Beasts were created by Anti-Spirals - they were first attempt to exterminate Spirals, together with Insania Virus. That's not a coincidence that it was using exactly the same thing that fuels Spiral Power - fighting spirit - to fuel itself and turn infected against their friends. However, when Anti-Spirals realized that they only accelerated evolution of Spirals, they launched full-scale campaign against them. Also, Kamina is descendant of Shizuru and Kouji. Really, try to mix Kouji's [[HotBlooded hot bloodness]] and [[LargeHam hamminess]] with her CatchPhrase and you'll get Kamina. Yoko may be great-great-great granddaughter of Go and Anna.

[[WMG: Gurren Lagann's universe is the ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}}''' several millenia after the spell-bound magic was completely lost]]

[[WMG: Gurren Lagann's universe is the ''LightNovel/{{Slayers}}''' several millennia before the war of the Monster's Fall]]

[[WMG: The TTGL universe was created by LightNovel/HaruhiSuzumiya after destroying her own universe.]]

[[WMG: ''WesternAnimation/MegasXLR'' '''and''' ''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic'' are the same universe as TTGL, altered by TimeTravel]]

* The Anti-Spiral King is Shinji Ikari himself. Not only is he insanely depressed, [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil what]] [[MoralEventHorizon happened]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything to]] [[NightmareFuel Nia]] must be an extension of [[ADateWithRosiePalms what]] [[DudeShesLikeInAComa Shinji did.]] "I'm so fucked up", ''indeed.''

* This would give [[MoralEventHorizon the]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything analysing]] [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil of]] [[TheWoobie Nia]] a [[DudeSheLikeInAComa very]] [[ADateWithRosiePalms disturbing]] [[NightmareFuel meaning.]]

[[WMG: Attenborough is an adult version of [[VideoGame/{{MOTHER|1}} Loid]]]]

The Dragon Ball universe ultimately collapsed on itself,and went through a new Big Bang,becoming the Guerren Lagann universe.This is a cycle where each universe is more powered by the RuleOfCool and total Badass than the previous.If and when Spiral Nemesis is achieved,a new Big Bang will occur.And this new universe will [[UpToEleven be even more awesome]],to the point it could endanger the multiverse itself from sheer awesomeness

One day, the Ancients decided to equip a non-Zoanoid human with their basic [[Main/OrganicTechnology symbiotic]] [[Main/PowerArmour power suit]]. Unexpectedly, the human's strength with the suit went far beyond that of the Ancients themselves. Worse, the human was now somehow immune to the Ancients' Main/MindControl, and "it" attacked them. They named it Guyver, meaning "out of control" or [[Main/UpToEleven "beyond the norm"]].

He resembles a Jagermonster, he's incredibly tough, and he wants his helmet back because of his genetic propensity for {{Nice Hat}}s.

Consider: Boota evolved (even if only in his mind) from his mole-pig form into a CuteShotaroBoy in CoolSunglasses. Since none of the alternate universes The Will uses against the Dai-Gurren-dan appear actively impossible with the series' physics, this implies that Boota could do this, or at least something similar, in the real world. (Presumably, if push comes to shove, he could do so again with Simon's help.) In any case, the chain of events is as follows: After Simon's (long-delayed) death, the pretty-much-immortal mole-pig goes on to sire a numberless legion of Spiral-powered hybrid creatures. The galaxy unites briefly, but separates once more when they recognize that their expansion is leading towards the Spiral Nemesis. A trackless time passes. Boota's hyper-powered descendants, born with the capacity to retain enormous amounts of Spiral power, evolve at warp speed, speciating into countless different varieties of creature, many of them near-sentient. Humanity eventually abandons the form of Ganmen and much of their dependence on Spiral power. Meanwhile, the Beastmen, unable to regenerate any longer, go extinct. Millenia pass, and the world- already very different from present-day Earth- regrows and reshapes itself further. Even the Great Gurren-dan is relegated to little more than legend, and eventually forgotten altogether.

[[WMG: Separated at birth?]]
[[quoteleft:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/chitori.png]] [[quoteleft:210:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/riffraff.png]]

That "Spiral Nemesis" the Anti-Spirals were worried about? ''It happened once before''; a [[WesternAnimation/MegasXLR fat lunatic dropout piloting a mech with a Chevy for a head did it to defeat slug aliens]] and then '''demolished it''', creating in its place a new, awesome universe in which the RuleOfCool {{Hand Wave}}d [[MohsScaleOfScienceFictionHardness the laws of physics]]. They then went on their crusade for "Absolute Despair" not out of concern for the universe, but out of jealous rage - they'd never be that awesome, so the only way they could justify their dismal existence was if they {{Hannibal Lecture}}d the rest of the universe into being lame.

** As of the New 52, the Old Guardians [[FaceHeelTurn have ascended]] [[TheEvilsOfFreeWil to Type III.]] The Anti-Spirals are currently searching for a method of locating [[ComicBook/ForeverEvil Earth 3]] to get some answers on the ''ComicBook/WrathOfTheFirstLantern''.

* [[Film/TheMatrix The Machines.]] Their complete control and restriction of Spiral Power has been quite handy for the Anti-Spirals. It is said that the Machine subconsciously based the Matrix off the Multiversal Labyrinth. [[spoiler:After letting the humans be free, they have gone down to Type I.]]

The ultimate enemy and antithesis of the Anti-Spirals is known as the Spiral Overlord. The Spiral Overlord was once Kamina, in a AU universe where [[spoiler:he survived.]] In this reality, his CrazyAwesome LargeHam nature triggered that universe's Spiral Nemesis. However, his consciousness was so brash that it merged with the singularity. Now the Spiral Overlord, it has become an [[GeniusLoci entire]] [[EldritchAbomination universe]], where ''the very galaxies'' have turned into its DNA. Reckless and impulsive [[SerialEscalation up to and beyond infinity]], the Spiral Nemesis is an AffablyEvil OmnicidalManiac who's trying initiate the DESTRUCTION OF REALITY ITSELF via [[AwesomenessIsVolatile sheer]] [[DyingMomentOfAwesome awesomeness.]] It has an emissary, in the form of [[WesternAnimation/MegasXLR Evil Coop.]]

* If Pikachu is a direct-line male heir to Boota, and Squirtle is Kamina, what does that say about Ash?! KidHero, IdiotHero, able to tell [[ScrewTheRulesIHavePlot the rules of reality]] to fuck off whenever he and Pikachu want to do something, he must be Simon reincarnated. Squirtle/Kamina came to Ash at the beginning of his adventure, when he needed help, and left (this time without the HeroicSacrifice) when Ash no longer needed him around. The glasses worn by the other Squirtles around him must have been references to Simon's goggles, in an attempt to get closer to their CrazyAwesome leader.

[[WMG: The show takes place in a distant future of ''Anime/ShinkonGattaiGodannar'']]

[[WMG: [[Webcomic/AxisPowersHetalia Alfred F. Jones and Matthew Williams]] are Kamina and Simon in a non-spiral power induced universe.]]

* Expanding on this general theory, Spiritomb may be fragments of the Anti-Spiral HiveMind. They are [[OneHundredAndEight 108]] spirits sealed away in Odd Keystones (which may be fragments of the Anti-Spiral homeworld), and have a backwards spiral in their left eye. They were said to have been sealed away for a bunch of misdeeds long ago; what if said misdeeds were their various campaigns against the Spiral races? Also, they are less intelligent since they are only made of 108 spirits, rather than billions; after all, being torn apart like that [[MindRape mind raped]] them into an extremely destructive animal-like state.

Starts off as a {{Moe}} -esque [[DistressedDamsel Distressed]] [[EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses Princess]] who after spending time with the protagonist [[TookALevelInBadass Takes A Level In Badass]] and becomes as HotBlooded as the protagonist. They even look alike.

[[WMG: Gurren Lagann is an iteration of ''Heybot!'' universe.]]

RuleOfCool physics? Check. LargeHam? Check. HumongousMecha? Check. [[EverythingsBetterWithSpinning Spinning?]] Check.[[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu Punching out Eldritch Abominations]] using AwesomenessIsAForce? Check. It makes sense that if Haruhi Suzumiya will create a new universe, it would be TTGL.

** Big Brother, or more accurately the man the myth was based on, was an Anti-Spiral agent. Unfortunately his cabal couldn't give a shit about the whole [[KnightTemplar preventing the Big Crunch]] and are only in it [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans to satiate their power lust.]] INGSOC is a bastardized version of the Anti-Spiral coda. They knew this, [[NecessaryEvil but they needed them to accomplish the annihilation of Spiral Energy.]]

[[WMG: Lagann is Simon's [[JoJosBizarreAdventure stand]].]]

* Gurren Lagann starts off with the crew facing off against the Beastmen just to survive, while MightyMorphinPowerRangers begins with Rita Repulsa attempting to conquer earth, with the Power Rangers entirely on the defensive.

[[quoteleft:350:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/chitori.png]] [[quoteleft:210:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/riffraff.png]]

* [[ShinMegamiTensei Vehement followers of Law, especially the Archangels.]] [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill They consider free will to be an aberration]], think the ideal world is a WorldOfSilence and [[KnightTemplar always think they're in the right.]] The Anti-Spiral King was sick of [[Literature/TheBible YHWH]] having His own agenda([[GodIsGood whether]] [[EarnYourHappyEnding good]] [[GodIsEvil or]] [[DespotismJustifiesTheMeans not]], so they looked to YHVH instead. Having a literal god on their hand makes the transition easier, with worship eliminating the want to resist and thus generate Spiral Energy.

* [[Literature/TheBible YHWH.]] Considering the guy can create an entire universe [[ClarkesThirdLaw with or without technology]], is order incarnate, [[PlaceBeyondTime exists in the neverwhen/neverwhere]] and [[{{Hell}} has a very effective way of imposing Absolute Despair forever and ever]], the Anti-Spirals are very interested [[EldritchAbomination with whatever He is.]] [[CthulhuMythos They also think about using Azathoth to manipulate it.]]