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[[WMG: Angelina didn't SettleForSibling or bond with George over mutual grief.]]
She and Fred went to the Yule Ball together but there's no evidence that they kept dating after that. And he makes out with one of Fleur's cousins at the wedding, which he presumably wouldn't have done if he was in a relationship with someone else. She and George just happened to hit it off at some point after the battle of Hogwarts, or possibly before that, and the fact that she once went on a date with his brother had nothing to do with it.
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This isn't quite going into OedipusComplex territory, but it's obvious throughout the series that Harry held his parents in very high regard. Knowing Rowling, this may or may not have been intentional, but Ginny exhibits a lot of the traits that either one or both of Harry's parents had during their time at school. Like Lily, she's an attractive redhead and a skilled witch with courage and natural leadership abilities. She also happens to be the youngest sister in the family. Like James, she shows above average talent with her spellcasting as well as with Quidditch. In fact, she played both Chaser and Seeker at different points in her Quidditch career at Hogwarts just like James did. (James is mentioned as being a Chaser in the books, but is also seen showing off his reflexes with a snitch in a flashback, which might imply that he, like Ginny, played Chaser on a team with a very skilled Seeker, but switched to Seeker when said teammate either left school or was injured.) James was also a natural leader, even of the Marauders in his early school days, and he became Head Boy in his seventh year as well.

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This isn't quite going into OedipusComplex UsefulNotes/OedipusComplex territory, but it's obvious throughout the series that Harry held his parents in very high regard. Knowing Rowling, this may or may not have been intentional, but Ginny exhibits a lot of the traits that either one or both of Harry's parents had during their time at school. Like Lily, she's an attractive redhead and a skilled witch with courage and natural leadership abilities. She also happens to be the youngest sister in the family. Like James, she shows above average talent with her spellcasting as well as with Quidditch. In fact, she played both Chaser and Seeker at different points in her Quidditch career at Hogwarts just like James did. (James is mentioned as being a Chaser in the books, but is also seen showing off his reflexes with a snitch in a flashback, which might imply that he, like Ginny, played Chaser on a team with a very skilled Seeker, but switched to Seeker when said teammate either left school or was injured.) James was also a natural leader, even of the Marauders in his early school days, and he became Head Boy in his seventh year as well.

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[[WMG: Lots of the Slytherins are sick of and totally hate Malfoy and his gang.]] I mean, seriously, Malfoy is a total jerk. This probably explains why the common room was empty when [[spoiler:Harry and Ron interrogate him in disguise!]]even though they could be hanging around and left when “Mouthboy” entered.

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[[WMG: Lots of the Slytherins are sick of and totally hate Malfoy and his gang.]] I mean, seriously, Malfoy is a total jerk. This probably explains why the common room was empty when [[spoiler:Harry Harry and Ron interrogate him in disguise!]]even disguise, even though they could be hanging around and left when “Mouthboy” entered.



* Some of the recent blurbs JKR put on Pottermore reveal that [[spoiler:Lucius and Narcissa were a bit disappointed in Draco's choice of marriage because the Greengrass family was not part of the "Sacred Twenty-Eight" that comprised the 'purest' of the pure-blood families.]] If he was trying to please his parents, Astoria wasn't the best choice.

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* Some of the recent blurbs JKR put on Pottermore reveal that [[spoiler:Lucius Lucius and Narcissa were a bit disappointed in Draco's choice of marriage because the Greengrass family was not part of the "Sacred Twenty-Eight" that comprised the 'purest' of the pure-blood families.]] families. If he was trying to please his parents, Astoria wasn't the best choice.



His behavior was constantly being compared to Ginny's in the second book, and we all know how she turned out: [[spoiler: that she did have a crush on Harry and kept it going through all the guys she dated over the years, until she finally got together with him]]. He is also one of the few prominent Gryffindor characters who we never see dating anybody. Plus, Colin was Muggle-born, so it's not like he grew up hearing Harry Potter's name the way Ron and his other classmates did. Why else would he be so obsessed with him?

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His behavior was constantly being compared to Ginny's in the second book, and we all know how she turned out: [[spoiler: that she did have a crush on Harry and kept it going through all the guys she dated over the years, until she finally got together with him]].him. He is also one of the few prominent Gryffindor characters who we never see dating anybody. Plus, Colin was Muggle-born, so it's not like he grew up hearing Harry Potter's name the way Ron and his other classmates did. Why else would he be so obsessed with him?



* She's often seen giving him compliments and is very devoted to him, but also gets irritated with his some of his quirks and antics, a bit like a wife. She's also fiercely - sometimes violently - protective of him, even though she probably knows full well that he can handily beat anyone who tries to fight him. She's likely closer to him than anyone, as WordOfGod says that each, at least initially, is the only one that knows the other's past - and [=McGonagall=] [[AllThereInTheManual actually has quite the tragic backstory.]] [[spoiler: In that backstory, she's also had a romance with a much older man.]] And, for what it's worth, the two are dance partners at the Yule Ball, at least in the films.

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* She's often seen giving him compliments and is very devoted to him, but also gets irritated with his some of his quirks and antics, a bit like a wife. She's also fiercely - sometimes violently - protective of him, even though she probably knows full well that he can handily beat anyone who tries to fight him. She's likely closer to him than anyone, as WordOfGod says that each, at least initially, is the only one that knows the other's past - and [=McGonagall=] [[AllThereInTheManual actually has quite the tragic backstory.]] [[spoiler: In that backstory, she's also had a romance with a much older man.]] man. And, for what it's worth, the two are dance partners at the Yule Ball, at least in the films.
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[[WMG: Seamus and Dean married the Patil twins.]]
In ''Deathly Hallows'', during Dean's absence, Seamus would have probably gotten closer to his remaining year-mates. Then after Lavender's death, Parvati was broken. Seamus comforted her, which turned into love. Dean started dating Padma shortly after, partly so he wouldn't be a third wheel and partly because he once called the twins the prettiest girls in their year. They had a double wedding, making Dean and Seamus BestFriendsInLaw.
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If she could have, she would have kept him under her spell for the rest of their lives. She knew he would never love her for who she was. But one day, she forgot to give him his regular dose of love potion, he realized what had been done to him, and he ran for his life and never looked back.

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If she could have, she would have kept him under her spell for the rest of their lives. She knew he would never truly love her for who she was. But one day, she forgot to give him his regular dose of love potion, he realized what had been done to him, and he ran for his life and never looked back.
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[[WMG:Merope didn't stop bewitching Tom Riddle Sr. on purpose.]]
If she could have, she would have kept him under her spell for the rest of their lives. She knew he would never love her for who she was. But one day, she forgot to give him his regular dose of love potion, he realized what had been done to him, and he ran for his life and never looked back.
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[[WMG: JK Rowling (or her daughter) is a [[WesternAnimation/TeenTitans Beast Boy/Terra]] shipper]]

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* I can imagine Madam Pomfrey having a cupboard full of ointments, potions and creams for magical STDs.

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* I can imagine Madam Pomfrey having a cupboard full of ointments, potions and creams for magical STDs.
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\n* Definitely jossed. Flirting and making thinly veiled innuendos with another man and then screaming at him while almost crying because he broke up with you doesn’t usually involve being straight. He could still be bisexual or just Albus sexual but he’s not straight.

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[[WMG: Elphias Doge is either straight or ace.]]

He and Dumbledore had a very close friendship. When Ariana died, it's possible Elphias was the only one to offer him tea and sympathy, even after hearing the whole story. It never got beyond friendship because Elphias just wasn't interested in men that way. It was just as well. After Ariana died, Albus needed a friend more than a lover anyway.
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** No mention was made of eye color debunking the WMG. Take a chill pill.
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* Also, Hermione is ''not'' similar to Lilly. Sure, they are both smart, muggle-born, and willing to stand up for what they believe in, but that's where the similarities stop. Lilly had, similar to Snape himself, an innate talent for potions, which Hermione doesn't have, she's just book smart - which is a major reason Snape looks down on her. Also, Lilly seemed to be kind as well as popular, while Hermione, bless her, was never particularly good with people. Furthermore, Lilly had a bit of a temper, which Hermione doesn't have, and she was conventionally attractive, which Hermione isn't.

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* Also, Hermione is ''not'' similar to Lilly.Lily. Sure, they are both smart, muggle-born, and willing to stand up for what they believe in, but that's where the similarities stop. Lilly Lily had, similar to Snape himself, an innate talent for potions, which Hermione doesn't have, she's just book smart - which is a major reason Snape looks down on her. Also, Lilly Lily seemed to be kind as well as popular, while Hermione, bless her, was never particularly good with people. Furthermore, Lilly Lily had a bit of a temper, which Hermione doesn't have, and she was conventionally attractive, which Hermione isn't.
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[[WMG: Godric Griffindor was a huge [[TheCasanova Casanova.]]

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[[WMG:Sirius Black and Remus Lupin are [[Main/HoYay homosexual lovers]].]]

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[[WMG: Godric Gryffindor and Salazar Slytherin were [[Main/HoYay homosexual lovers]].]]

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** Another popular theory is that it will be [[HoYay Scorpius and Al]], which would spice things up even more.

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** Another popular theory is that it will be [[HoYay Scorpius and Al]], Al, which would spice things up even more.
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** Probably to give Harry a similar "born from a loveless union" backstory as Voldemort.

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* That makes a lot of sense, since Malfoy is actually quite bad at being a Slytherin. Instead of achieving his goals with cunning, his main line of action is going whining to his Daddy.


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* Snape begins to bully Hermione in their first potion class, ''before'' she is friends with Harry. Snape's treatment of Hermione has nothing to do with Harry, Snape just finds Hermione annoying and, as a SadistTeacher, lets out his frustration and emotional issues on his pupils.
* Also, Hermione is ''not'' similar to Lilly. Sure, they are both smart, muggle-born, and willing to stand up for what they believe in, but that's where the similarities stop. Lilly had, similar to Snape himself, an innate talent for potions, which Hermione doesn't have, she's just book smart - which is a major reason Snape looks down on her. Also, Lilly seemed to be kind as well as popular, while Hermione, bless her, was never particularly good with people. Furthermore, Lilly had a bit of a temper, which Hermione doesn't have, and she was conventionally attractive, which Hermione isn't.
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** Jossed. It’s heavily implied in the second FB movie that the relationship was sexual which was later confirmed by Rowling in one of the extras on the DVD.




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*** Dumbledore was gay and he died, it’s not BuryYourGays. He was like 115 when he died and he died because of a curse. It’d be this trope if he was the one who died because of his teenaged relationship, not his sister.
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How else could he still have Parseltongue abilities after the Horcrux is gone. It is because he is unknowingly a descendant of Salazar Slytherin and James never developed it because he either did not know himelf or because of the unfair stigma attached to it.

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[[WMG: Grindelwald isn’t necessarily gay or straight, he’s just attracted to the only person who’s an equal to him. Equal sexual, if you will.]]

It’s been mentioned several times that Grindelwald has time only for people he sees as equals. Aberforth says in the seventh book that Grindelwald couldn’t understand why Albus loved his “inferior” siblings and that Aberforth should be grateful to have such a brilliant brother. Now Aberforth is certainly a bit of an unreliable source but this holds up. Newt also says something similar at the end of the second FB movie.

Now, who is explicitly his only equal in the franchise? Dumbledore. Not even Voldemort was on their level. Dumbledore kicked Voldy’s ass in the fifth book and the FB movies make clear that Grindelwald is both more skilled and knowledgeable. Voldy is more UnskilledButStrong.

The way Grindelwald talks to Newt in both the first and second movies also implies a bit of jealousy about it. “What makes Albus Dumbledore so fond of you? “Will Dumbledore mourn for you?” Like a , “Why the hell does the greatest wizard in the world like this weirdo animal guy when I’m right here?” sort of thing.

He doesn’t let the equals thing go. He’s obsessed with Dumbledore in a CrazyJealousGuy kind of way. That’s why they hit it off romantically because there’s no one else either one could have hoped to meet that would ever match each other.

His only equal is, luckily, someone roughly his age. Gender be damned, he doesn’t want a partner who’s “beneath”. If his equal just happened to be a beautiful young lady about his own age, the same thing would have happened. He’d have started a relationship with her.

That’s really what sets the two of the apart. Dumbledore treats everyone with kindness and respect from awkward Newt, to werewolf Lupin, to half giant Hagrid. Grindelwald just can’t feign any sort of kindness to anyone that’s beneath him. Like to Aberforth, Ariana, Credence, Newt, and others. If all that craziness hadn’t happened, Dumbledore could have found someone else but he couldn’t, guy or gal.
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*Or it could have been the other way around, in an OppositesAttract kind of way.
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Related to the above; these characters are most likely to have had sex before they died. Do not include the characters who were explicitly ''not'' virgins when they died (Remus Lupin, Nymphadora Tonks, James and Lily Potter) or characters who did not die within the series ([[Characters/HarryPotterTheTrio The Golden Trio]], Draco Malfoy, Neville Longbottom, etc.) Also, [[CaptainObvious spoiler alert]].

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Related to the above; these characters are most likely to have had sex before they died. Do not include the characters who were explicitly ''not'' virgins when they died (Remus Lupin, Nymphadora Tonks, James and Lily Potter) or characters who did not die within the series ([[Characters/HarryPotterTheTrio The Golden Trio]], Draco Malfoy, Neville Longbottom, etc.) Also, [[CaptainObvious spoiler alert]].
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* [[{{Jossed}} OP here. Just making note of the fact that]] [[Books/HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild this WMG didn't age well.]]

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* [[{{Jossed}} OP here. Just making note of the fact that]] [[Books/HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild [[Theatre/HarryPotterAndTheCursedChild this WMG didn't age well.]]
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How else could he still have Parseltongue abilities after the Horcrux is gone. It is because he is unknowingly a descendant of Salazar Slytherin and James never developed it because he either did not know himelf orbecause of the unfair stigma attached to it.

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This troper is not counting ''Cursed Child'' as canon, as it was not written by JK Rowling.

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This troper is not counting ''Cursed Child'' as canon, as it was not written by JK Rowling.Rowling.

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How else could he still have Parseltongue abilities after the Horcrux is gone. It is because he is unknowingly a descendant of Salazar Slytherin and James never developed it because he either did not know himelf orbecause of the unfair stigma attached to it.

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* Also I doubt Sirius and Remus would have just stood aside. Peter maybe because... Peter. But both Sirius and Remus were on equal footing with James and definitely would have interfered with him trying to slip Lily some lovepotion. And don't forget how both of them pointed out how JAMES grew up in their last two years in school and how Lily gave him a chance after he did the growing up thing, not before. Someone did change his behaviour, but it was neither aprupt, nor potion-induced, nor Lily.

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* Also I doubt Sirius and Remus would have just stood aside. Peter maybe because... Peter. But Peter, but both Sirius and Remus were on equal footing with James and definitely would have interfered with him trying to slip Lily some lovepotion. And don't forget how both of them pointed out how JAMES grew up in their last two years in school and how Lily gave him a chance after he did the growing up thing, not before. Someone did change his behaviour, but it was neither aprupt, nor potion-induced, nor Lily.



Think of it this way: While Lily would never have liked being called a "Mudblood", she should have given a little more consideration to the idea that Severus was angry and humiliated when he said it, and that anger and humiliation makes people lose control, ''and'' that they'd been friends since they were nine years old; if she never once saw his reaction to public humiliation in six years, then she wasn't paying attention. With this in mind, she had no excuse not to forgive him. (Please keep in mind, however, that he ''was'' wrong for saying it, and that this is not Lily-bashing; it's just something I thought about.)

But let's assume that they had sex at some point before this happened. Lily wouldn't have made that decision lightly, and she did love Severus, in a "best friends" way, so losing her virginity with him (and, by that same token, him with her) would have been extremely significant for her. When she told him to fuck off after calling her "Mudblood", she wasn't angry; she was broken-hearted, and it was the final sign that no matter how much she changed for him, he wasn't going to do it for her. Which led her to James Potter, [[CharacterDevelopment who stopped being a "toerag" long enough to convince her that he just might be worth her time]]. (Also note that Sirius told Harry, in Book 5, that James and Lily only started dating in their ''seventh'' year. If she really had been angry, the best way to get back at Severus would have been to immediately start dating his worst enemy.)

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Think of it this way: While Lily would never have liked being called a "Mudblood", she should have given a little more consideration to the idea that Severus was angry and humiliated when he said it, and that anger and humiliation makes people lose control, ''and'' that they'd been friends since they were nine years old; if she never once saw his reaction to public humiliation in six years, then she wasn't was not paying attention. With this in mind, she had no excuse not to forgive him. him, (Please keep in mind, however, that he ''was'' wrong for saying it, and that this is not Lily-bashing; it's just something I thought about.)

) But let's assume that they had sex at some point before this happened. Lily wouldn't have made that decision lightly, and she did love Severus, in a "best friends" way, so losing her virginity with him (and, by that same token, him with her) would have been extremely significant for her. When she told him to fuck off after calling her "Mudblood", she wasn't angry; she was broken-hearted, and it was the final sign that no matter how much she changed for him, he wasn't going to do it for her. Which led her to James Potter, [[CharacterDevelopment who stopped being a "toerag" long enough to convince her that he just might be worth her time]]. (Also note that Sirius told Harry, in Book 5, that James and Lily only started dating in their ''seventh'' year. If she really had been angry, the best way to get back at Severus would have been to immediately start dating his worst enemy.)
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*** That's because Harry's an angst 15-year old who idealizes his parents and doesn't recognize the concept of "the lady doth protest too much." JK Rowling even hinted at this in an interview. "You're a woman. You know what I'm talking about." (Leaky Cauldron interview, I think).

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*** That's because Harry's an angst angsty 15-year old who idealizes his parents and doesn't recognize the concept of "the lady doth protest too much." JK Rowling even hinted at this in an interview. "You're a woman. You know what I'm talking about." (Leaky Cauldron interview, I think).
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* [[CrowningMomentOfFunny THANK YOU!]]

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* With TheReveal in ''Film/FantasticBeastsTheCrimesOfGrindelwald'', I think he saw her as some sort of mother figure. She's an adult in the 20's where he was just born so she's much older than him and is in fact old enough to be his mother.




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* Lavender Brown - confirmed to die in ''Deathly Hallows'' by WordOfGod despite the book's narrative is a bit vague about this. It's unlikely that she never did it with Ron in ''Half-blood Prince'' and it's even ''more'' unlikely that she had a time for this in ''Deathly Hallows'', even if she got another boyfriend, considering that Hogwarts was under the tyranny of Carrow siblings at this time. Of course, she might have time when she's hiding in Room of Requirement but there's a big risk of PrimalScene since there are a lot of other students there, [[HarmfulToMinors not to mention underage students]].

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