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[[WMG: Soulstorm was made deliberately bad.]]
Consider: In DOW2, the reason your five squads are expected to hold three planets are because that's all the Chapter can spare, not having replaced the devastating losses on Kaurava. This is because it's a much better justification than your Force Commander being both the youngest in history and the most skilled. Thus in order to make it palatable by the players, they deliberately made Soulstorm as bad as possible so the players would have as much reason to hate them as Cyrus (who would also have no reason to fall to Chaos were it not for the incompetence of Indrick Boreale).
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** They were assigned elsewhere ''just'' as Stubbs' base is attacked. ThereAreNoCoincidences in Warhammer40K, only Tzeentch's plans coming together.
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* Not really the case. Slaanesh is the god of pleasure, not just sex. Daemonettes are the only potentially objectionable unit have been used in Warhammer Online without issues. In addition, the following the pattern, they would most likely use the Keeper of Secrets, Noise Marines, and a demon unit. Even if Daemonettes were an issue, Fiends and Seekers are also options.
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* No Ork would pretend to be another Ork. It is completely pointless and would do nothing, even if they did think of it. Gorgutz has to use the same method as any other Ork to become Warboss of any group of Orks, kill the previous Warboss.
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* The theory doesn't work. It's only taking superficial comparisons based on Dawn of War and ignoring things like how fundamentally different their technology functions or that the Tau are the only race that legitimately understand their technology, yet are almost entirely unaware Necrons exist, let alone Necron technology.
* Even in Dawn of War, these points don't all work.
** Drones don't disappear when they die, they explode, which is literally stated as one of their abilities.
** The Ethereal should not be able to deploy without a body guard anyways and it is hardly the only instance that units appear like that. The basic mechanism for reinforcement has soldiers appear out of nowhere. In addition, teleportation technology isn't remotely Necron only and the body guard are living beings.
** One building exploding in a common color for explosions is hardly a point.
* Even in Dawn of War, these points don't all work.
** Drones don't disappear when they die, they explode, which is literally stated as one of their abilities.
** The Ethereal should not be able to deploy without a body guard anyways and it is hardly the only instance that units appear like that. The basic mechanism for reinforcement has soldiers appear out of nowhere. In addition, teleportation technology isn't remotely Necron only and the body guard are living beings.
** One building exploding in a common color for explosions is hardly a point.
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** All in all, this is a very plausible explanation. Like all things related to Chaos, Warpstorms ''do'' cause madness and psychopathy.
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*** [[DontExplainTheJoke I know,]] [[MemeticMutation but that's what everybody else thinks-]] [[OhCrap OH CRAP!!!]] [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou IT'S PENETRATED THE FOURTH WALL!!!]] {{Creepypasta IT'S LIKE A CREEPYPASTA, ONLY REAL!!!}} [[TheScream AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]
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*** [[DontExplainTheJoke I know,]] [[MemeticMutation but that's what everybody else thinks-]] [[OhCrap OH CRAP!!!]] [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou IT'S PENETRATED THE FOURTH WALL!!!]] {{Creepypasta [[{{Creepypasta}} IT'S LIKE A CREEPYPASTA, ONLY REAL!!!}} REAL!!!]] [[TheScream AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]
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*** [[DontExplainTheJoke I know,]] [[MemeticMutation but that's what everybody else thinks-]] [[OhCrap OH CRAP!!!]] [[TheFourthWallWillNotProtectYou IT'S PENETRATED THE FOURTH WALL!!!]] {{Creepypasta IT'S LIKE A CREEPYPASTA, ONLY REAL!!!}} [[TheScream AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]]
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** Vance didn't lose them 100 Baneblades; they were assigned elsewhere.
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...was because of the [[TitleDrop titular Soulstorm]], i.e. the Warp heralding the Forces of Chaos. You could bet an EldritchAbomination like that would cause [[GoMadFromTheRevelation mental disorders]] [[DysfunctionJunction en masse]], and it shows: just about all the factions have grabbed onto the IdiotBall when compared to their Dark Crusade counterparts, from Gorgutz leaving his Ork Hold's design to his numb-skull second-in-command, to the commander of what are supposed to be MartialPacifist Tau basing his tactics on flat-out aggression. Even [[MemeticBadass General Vance Motherfucking Stubbs]] managed to [[MemeticMutation lose 100 Baneblades]] in his stronghold assault. And if one would question why the forces didn't pick up at least a few IQ points if the Soulstorm was destroyed before the endgame (i.e. by defeating the Forces of Chaos), then the mental damage was simply too great to fix.
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...was because of the [[TitleDrop titular Soulstorm]], i.e. the Warp heralding the Forces of Chaos. You could bet an EldritchAbomination like that would cause [[GoMadFromTheRevelation mental disorders]] [[DysfunctionJunction en masse]], and it shows: just about all the factions have grabbed onto the IdiotBall when compared to their Dark Crusade counterparts, from Gorgutz leaving his Ork Hold's design to his numb-skull second-in-command, to the commander of what are supposed to be MartialPacifist Tau basing his tactics on flat-out aggression. Even [[MemeticBadass General Vance Motherfucking Stubbs]] managed to [[MemeticMutation lose 100 Baneblades]] in his stronghold assault. And if one would question why the forces didn't pick up at least a few IQ points if the Soulstorm was destroyed before the endgame (i.e. by defeating the Forces of Chaos), then the mental damage was simply too great to fix.
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[[WMG: The reason Soulstorm sucked so much...]]
...was because of the [[TitleDrop titular Soulstorm]], i.e. the Warp heralding the Forces of Chaos. You could bet an EldritchAbomination like that would cause [[GoMadFromTheRevelation mental disorders]] [[DysfunctionJunction en masse]], and it shows: just about all the factions have grabbed onto the IdiotBall when compared to their Dark Crusade counterparts, from Gorgutz leaving his Ork Hold's design to his numb-skull second-in-command, to the commander of what are supposed to be MartialPacifist Tau basing his tactics on flat-out aggression. Even [[MemeticBadass General Vance Motherfucking Stubbs]] managed to [[MemeticMutation lose 100 Baneblades]] in his stronghold assault. And if one would question why the forces didn't pick up at least a few IQ points if the Soulstorm was destroyed before the endgame (i.e. by defeating the Forces of Chaos), then the mental damage was simply too great to fix.
...was because of the [[TitleDrop titular Soulstorm]], i.e. the Warp heralding the Forces of Chaos. You could bet an EldritchAbomination like that would cause [[GoMadFromTheRevelation mental disorders]] [[DysfunctionJunction en masse]], and it shows: just about all the factions have grabbed onto the IdiotBall when compared to their Dark Crusade counterparts, from Gorgutz leaving his Ork Hold's design to his numb-skull second-in-command, to the commander of what are supposed to be MartialPacifist Tau basing his tactics on flat-out aggression. Even [[MemeticBadass General Vance Motherfucking Stubbs]] managed to [[MemeticMutation lose 100 Baneblades]] in his stronghold assault. And if one would question why the forces didn't pick up at least a few IQ points if the Soulstorm was destroyed before the endgame (i.e. by defeating the Forces of Chaos), then the mental damage was simply too great to fix.
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* Even if we do accept that explanation it would still be unlikely for Sindri to come back because he was listed by the Daemon of the Maledictum as a sacrifice, implying that he consumed his essence...
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[[WMG:The Eldar attacks on the Blood Raven's recruiting worlds in Dawn of War II were a XanatosGambit intended to give the Ravens a mobilized force in-theatre before the Tyranid fleet arrived.]]
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[[WMG:The Eldar attacks on the Blood Raven's recruiting worlds in Dawn of War II were a XanatosGambit {{plan}} intended to give the Ravens a mobilized force in-theatre before the Tyranid fleet arrived.]]
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* Kinda' nitpicky, but fairly provable. The Tyranids shown throughout the installments (barring those on the Judgment of Carrion, [[DidNotDoTheResearch which to be fair should be populated by nothing but Genestealers]]) have the color scheme of Hive Fleet Leviathan. These guys show up in the galaxy at around 997.M41 (40,997 AD in our notation). Giving the writers the benefit of the doubt, let's say the Tyranid attack on Subsector Aurelia happened in 997.M41. ''Chaos Rising'' is one year later, putting it at 998.M41. And ''Retribution'' is a full ''decade'' after this, so at the most conservative estimates, the year is now 008.M42 (or 41,008 AD), i.e. the ''42nd'' millennium.
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* Kinda' nitpicky, but fairly provable. The Tyranids shown throughout the installments (barring those on the Judgment of Carrion, [[DidNotDoTheResearch which to be fair should be populated by nothing but Genestealers]]) Genestealers) have the color scheme of Hive Fleet Leviathan. These guys show up in the galaxy at around 997.M41 (40,997 AD in our notation). Giving the writers the benefit of the doubt, let's say the Tyranid attack on Subsector Aurelia happened in 997.M41. ''Chaos Rising'' is one year later, putting it at 998.M41. And ''Retribution'' is a full ''decade'' after this, so at the most conservative estimates, the year is now 008.M42 (or 41,008 AD), i.e. the ''42nd'' millennium.
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[[WMG:The Blood Ravens are based on the Brotherhood of Steel from {{Fallout}}.]]
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[[WMG:The Blood Ravens are based on the Brotherhood of Steel from {{Fallout}}.VideoGame/{{Fallout}}.]]
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* Eliphas became considerably more aggressive post-revival, possibly a side-effect of being brought back to life in the Warp. It's possible Neroth/Sindri suffered the same fate.
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** The Lexicamum also says they have no record from before M37. Most likely they were made using Geneseeds from the Thousand Sons that were discovered some time after the Heresy.
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*** Well, the Dark Angels keep a lot of things secret about a lot of things - only the Grand Master and whoever he's grooming as his successor know the whole story of the post-Heresy rebellion. Another possibility is that, like the SoulDrinkers, they were excommunicated at one point after making a mistake, but ''unlike'' the Drinkers they ambushed the real Blood Ravens, wiped them out, stole their armour and gene-seed, and tried to submerge themselves into deep cover under their new name. It makes sense that they'd want to keep this information from getting out, so they ''willingly'' wiped their data...2000 years ago, and only a few hints remain in the traditions (with a bit more being made explicit to higher ranks, like the Dark Angels).
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*** Well, the Dark Angels keep a lot of things secret about a lot of things - only the Grand Master and whoever he's grooming as his successor know the whole story of the post-Heresy rebellion. Another possibility is that, like the SoulDrinkers, Soul Drinkers, they were excommunicated at one point after making a mistake, but ''unlike'' the Drinkers they ambushed the real Blood Ravens, wiped them out, stole their armour and gene-seed, and tried to submerge themselves into deep cover under their new name. It makes sense that they'd want to keep this information from getting out, so they ''willingly'' wiped their data...2000 years ago, and only a few hints remain in the traditions (with a bit more being made explicit to higher ranks, like the Dark Angels).
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Every significant Alpha Legionary has been voiced by [=McNeil=]--masquerading as a voice actor would be the kind of subterfuge they're known for. And with his propensity for talking to himself in some series (see WesternAnimation/BeastWars or the Series/MegaMan cartoon), compared with the fact that every member of the Legion claims to be Alpharius...
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Every significant Alpha Legionary has been voiced by [=McNeil=]--masquerading as a voice actor would be the kind of subterfuge they're known for. And with his propensity for talking to himself in some series (see WesternAnimation/BeastWars or the Series/MegaMan WesternAnimation/MegaMan cartoon), compared with the fact that every member of the Legion claims to be Alpharius...
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Notice his rather loose grasp of tactics when occupying a more or less fortified position. HeGotBetter in time for Soulstorm.
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Notice his rather loose grasp of tactics when occupying a more or less fortified position. HeGotBetter in He got better time for Soulstorm.
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[[WMG: The Sergeant from the first cinematic cutscene is Indrick Boreale.]]
Notice his rather loose grasp of tactics when occupying a more or less fortified position. HeGotBetter in time for Soulstorm.
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** Not the first time its happened, Ciaphas Cain is [[LiteraryAgentHypothesis written and edited during the 42nd millennium]] not only that but the sixth book is entirely from the perspective of the 42nd century versions of the characters. Not much has changed though.
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[[WMG:Indrick Boreale was a pawn of Kyras.]]
Kyras KNEW that Boreale would fail Kaurava campaign, thus weakening the Blood Ravens heavily. Perhaps Boreale's followers were the most loyal of the Blood Raens - those who would certainly not follow Kyras once he will defect to Chaos. Thus, he would remove the opposition in his own chapter so his ascension would be easier.
Boreale, in fact, could be corrupted by Chaos himself, and he might actually be alive, perhaps returning in Dawn of War III.
Kyras KNEW that Boreale would fail Kaurava campaign, thus weakening the Blood Ravens heavily. Perhaps Boreale's followers were the most loyal of the Blood Raens - those who would certainly not follow Kyras once he will defect to Chaos. Thus, he would remove the opposition in his own chapter so his ascension would be easier.
Boreale, in fact, could be corrupted by Chaos himself, and he might actually be alive, perhaps returning in Dawn of War III.
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** That said, the Brotherhood is one of the closest imitations of the Space Marines to be found in other settings. Given their general aesthetic and their monastic, hyper-religious Catholic Knight attitude.
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This is because Magnus hates Tzeentch because he was his XanatosSucker and he lost his legion who he viewed as sons because of the Rubric which was all a plan of Tzeentch. He will one day come to find Gabriel Angelos and defect from Chaos and use his tremendous psychic power to temporarily revive the Emperor being the first person to ever escape Tzeentch's plan.
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This is because Magnus hates Tzeentch because he was his XanatosSucker UnwittingPawn and he lost his legion who he viewed as sons because of the Rubric which was all a plan of Tzeentch. He will one day come to find Gabriel Angelos and defect from Chaos and use his tremendous psychic power to temporarily revive the Emperor being the first person to ever escape Tzeentch's plan.
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[[WMG: The Alpha Legion wanted to replace Abaddon with Kyras.]]
In Retribution, it is revealed that Abaddon The Despoiler views Azariah Kyras as a threat, hence sending Eliphas to deal with him. However, the Alpha Legion has been working alongside the Maledictum Daemon for decades. They planned to use Kyras to overthrow Abaddon and finally defeat the Imperium, thus fulfilling the prophecy that the Cabal showed Alpharius, and destroying the Chaos Gods in the process. However, the plan has a backup as well. Should Kyras be defeated, then Eliphas ascends to Daemonhood. Knowing Eliphas' treacherous streak, the Alpha Legion would expect him to betray his master Abaddon much like he did Araghast, thereby installing a far more capable leader for the Black Legion. A leader who would be competent enough to launch a successful Black Crusade.
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** For all we know, the Blood Ravens geneseed [[spoiler: could very well be tainted by a hint of Eldar ancestry,]] which would, at the very least, [[FantasticRacism be extremely humiliating for the Blood Ravens as a whole!]]
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** For all we know, the Blood Ravens geneseed [[spoiler: could very well be tainted by a hint of Eldar ancestry,]] which would, at the very least, [[FantasticRacism be extremely humiliating for the Blood Ravens as a whole!]]whole!]] Not to mention grounds for inquisition, at the worst.
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