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* Or they simply don't know the truth about their origins. Wiki/TheOtherWiki says that the chapter was devastated in a campaign against Chaos where both the Chapter Master and the Master of Sanctity were killed in a trap, so it's possible that the truth died with them.

Every significant Alpha Legionary has been voiced by [=McNeil=]--masquerading as a voice actor would be the kind of subterfuge they're known for. And with his propensity for talking to himself in some series (see WesternAnimation/BeastWars or the WesternAnimation/MegaMan cartoon), compared with the fact that every member of the Legion claims to be Alpharius...

[[WMG:The Blood Ravens are based on the Brotherhood of Steel from VideoGame/{{Fallout}}.]]

* Or they simply don't know the truth about their origins. TheOtherWiki says that the chapter was devastated in a campaign against Chaos where both the Chapter Master and the Master of Sanctity were killed in a trap, so it's possible that the truth died with them.

[[WMG: Gabriel Angelos canonically died on Cyrene. The Angelos in Dawn of War III is an imposter.]]

He sounds different, has unusual swiftness in Terminator Armor, is noticeably larger, and is missing an eye. Gabriel Angelos in DoW III is Magnus the Red in disguise.

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** They were assigned elsewhere ''just'' as Stubbs' base is attacked. ThereAreNoCoincidences in Warhammer40K, only Tzeentch's plans coming together.

Consider: In DOW2, the reason your five squads are expected to hold three planets are because that's all the Chapter can spare, not having replaced the devastating losses on Kaurava. This is because it's a much better justification than your Force Commander being both the youngest in history and the most skilled. Thus in order to make it palatable by the players, they deliberately made Soulstorm as bad as possible so the players would have as much reason to hate them as Cyrus (who would also have no reason to fall to Chaos were it not for the incompetence of Indrick Boreale).

*** Or maybe loyalist Black Legion/Sons Of Horus/Luna Wolves? The existance of such would piss Abbadon off.

** Nah, loyalist Thousand Sons, except that, at the time of HorusHeresy, they were told they could continue if 1) they kept their origin secret and 2) they let their geneseed be modified somewhat by the introduction of some elements from another Legion's geneseed. They therefore kept it secret even from most brothers (so it would never slip out) and chose the Raven Guard as the most compatible, thus explaining why they are not obviously Thousand Sons.

* Latest news fresh from the press; the HorusHeresy Novel ''A Thousand Sons'' has a scene where a women psyker forsees the Thousand Son's future and explicitly sees a Raven of Blood. Not quite confirmation but a step closer...

The Horus Heresy books have hinted at the Thousand Sons being the Blood Ravens' progenitor legion, and the chapter has just purged itself of Kyras' corruption. Along with the WMG above about Tzeench's daemons coming into focus in Dawn of War III, it seems like the best way to continue the plotline about the chapter's mysteries would be to finally confront them with the truth: that they are the descendants of traitors, and force them into conflict with the legion they originated from. This could also be used to provide a nice change of style in the antagonist: rather than another brutish Khorne-worshipper who focuses on honourable combat, the Blood Ravens could be forced to match their strategic prowess with TheChessmaster, who when finally confronted is a powerful EvilSorcerer with reality-bending powers, perhaps even a sympathetic figure who wishes to corrupt the Blood Ravens out of a sense they were meant to be brothers, not enemies.

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** A lot of Black Library materal pretty heavily hints that the Ravens are loyalist Thousand Sons.
* In ''DawnOfWar: Dark Crusade'', when the Space Marines assault the Chaos Stronghold, Eliphas (the Chaos commander) suggest that the Blood Ravens are a loyalist faction of the Word Bearers.

* Thus, the batshit insane, frothing-at-the-mouth lunatic, and what other similarly undesirable nutcases had accumulated within the Alpha Legion due to long-term Warp exposure, were handed a "vitally important" mission to the Kaurava system because Alpharius/Omegon though the legion would be better off without them.

Kyras KNEW that Boreale would fail Kaurava campaign, thus weakening the Blood Ravens heavily. Perhaps Boreale's followers were the most loyal of the Blood Raens - those who would certainly not follow Kyras once he will defect to Chaos. Thus, he would remove the opposition in his own chapter so his ascension would be easier.

** Vance didn't lose them 100 Baneblades; they were assigned elsewhere.

The Dark Eldar defeated the Sisters of Battle (to avoid the pointless inter-Imperium conflict) and the Necrons degeated the Eldar. They were then eliminated by Chaos and Imperial Guard, respectively.

Then the Imperial Guard made Carron cry and took out Chaos.

In addition to stealing their stuff, the Blood Ravens also learn the secrets, strategies and training methods of the other chapters, which is the reason they are able to train grey knights in Dark Crusade and Soulstorm

[[WMG:ScottMcNeil is Alpharius.]]