History WMG / Ben10UltimateAlien

** Well there's always GettingCrapPastTheRadar and IncestIsRelative. [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries It wouldn't be the first time we had a somewhat taboo relationship in a children's cartoon, anyway.]]

* A whole bunch of Omnitrix prototypes, mods and bootlegs have to be recovered, but being Clingy MacGuffins they wind up in the hands of a new generation of heroes, allowing Ben to spread his multiple forms among them. The show will then be known as Ben's Ten.

[[WMG: The [[{{Mummy}} Benmummy]]-[[{{Werewolf}} Benwolf]]-[[Franchise/{{Frankenstein}} Benviktor]] trio gets rounded up with a fourth form, [[OurVampiresAreDifferent Benpire]]]]

[[WMG: The [[{{Mummy}} Benmummy]]-[[{{Werewolf}} Benwolf]]-[[Franchise/{{Frankenstein}} Benviktor]] trio gets rounded up with a fourth form, [[{{Vampire}} Benpire]]]]

* Ultimate [[SuperSpeed Fasttrack]]:Yellow colour scheme, [[SonicTheHedgehog is able to fly at high speeds]]

My guess is that all Anodites are female and that they mate with males of other species [[LesYay (or with other Anodites)]] to procreate. This would explain why Ben hasn't manifested any anodite powers despite being the same age as Gwen. Furthermore, in "Ben 10,000 Returns," Older Ben has to recite an incantation while using magic - he shouts "[[AltumVidetur Contego!]]" to erect a shield to block Eon's time ray - and immediately afterwards he says "Hang around an Anodite for 20 years and you pick up a few tricks." This could indicate that he wasn't using Anodite powers (he didn't refer to himself as an Anodite) and instead learned how to use magic like Charmcaster and other human magic-users during the time-skip.

* [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome He may also try to take Vilgax's power!]]

* This could become a CrowningMomentOfAwesome if done right. Instead of kicking Kevin's ass, shift all that power to Darkstar, then kick ''his'' ass.

* Thats what I always thought. Popular guess is that Gwen interference must changed future. All episodes from Ben 10 classic go normal (and some guess that Goodbye and Good Riddance is canon) and then something changes. By the way, [[FridgeBrilliance that means that]] [[HeartwarmingMoments Gwen saved Kevin by herself from terrible fate.]]

* Ultimate [[GravityMaster Gravattack]] (Canon): Becomes a [[Cephalothorax head with arms]] and gain three orbiting "moons" that resemble [[Franchise/{{Pokemon}} the Pokémon Koffing]].

* Ultimate [[AnIcePerson Articguana]]:

* Ultimate [[GravityMaster Gravattack]]:

* Ultimate [[OurWerewolvesAreDifferent Benwolf]]:More quadrapedal and gains super breath as well as more powerfull howels.

* Ultimate [[MesACrowd Ditto]]: Switch the colors, dont feel each others pain
* Ultimate [[EyeBeams Eye Guy]]: Turns into a giant, floating FaclessEye with arms spurting from it. [[EyesDoNotBelongThere Naturally, the arms have eyes.]]

* Ultimate [[BlobMonster Goop]]: No need for the ufo can expand mass and whole thing in body, tenticals

* Ultimate [[FlyingSeafoodSpecial Jetray]]: Turns signifcantly more manta-like.

** A [[GeniusBruiser Military Mastermind]] with a green coloration, [[BaddassLongcoat Military jacket]] and the same speech pattern, but calmer. Oh and his Wolverine claws are now cappable of firing EnergyBlasts. Fights more like a actual soldier than the LeeroyJenkins style rath.

OK you might think I'm on somthing if you don't know. In the Ben 10 wiki it says Osmosians have antlers. Kevin dos not have antlers so he cuts them off to blend in.

* Dwayne confirmed that Osmosians grow antlers as they mature and that they are fully mature at 100, doesn't mean that they couldn't start growning their horns earlier than that. May be Kevin did already start growing his horns but their so small right now that he could easily hide them with his hair. About the cutting them? I don't think that would work Osmosian horns look like their covered in skin like those of a giraffe instead of karetin like a bull's or Hellboy's.

As we've seen in "Hit Em Where They Live", Gwen warned Zombo to leave her friends and relatives alone using her Andoite form. During the the episode Charmcaster has become obsessed with getting her revenge on Gwen. Charmcaster wants to become more powerful than Gwen and will try to steal her power and add her her own. This will lead to a big battle which would threaten to have Gwen transform into her Andoite form permanently. Charmcaster, in her DiminshingVillainThreat, will end up being destroyed by her craving for more power, and her last words would be how much she hates Gwen. This will leave Gwen feeling guilty over the fact her powers have killed someone. Either she wants her powers removed or wishes to live on her grandmother's homeplanet for Earth's sake.

** We don't know that Azmuth dosen't have anouther Primus around mybie there is an Omitrex for the none sentent animals.

I'm suprised it didn't come sooner.

** Why would anybody think his annodite blood is being surpressed instead of just he has no desire (currently) to pursue those skills. How many of you would spend presumably hours training in magic and martial arts if you could slap your watch and turn into a flying moth that has freeze breath and can become intangible. I can understand why Ben, especially with his personality, wouldn't bother doing something that resembled actual work.
** If the Omnitrix used the human as base form and alien as template to be applied, then improving oneself physcially would be beneficial. The mental side may be a time issue or laziness as Ben has shown he is pretty smart and was paying attention when things were said.

* My theory is that on their home world Osmosians are divided into several tribes that differ by physical apperiance, culture, and matter afinity. I think Aggregor is in the same tribe that Devin is from, may be Devin and Aggregor are cousins.

* Bellecus was Jerk!Ben that stayed at the tennis chapionship and Serena was Sensitive!Ben that wanted to talk about his feelings with Kevin. Man, that makes a lot of sense.

* He ''did'' mention in his first appearance that they once teamed up to save the entire Univ-- nevermind.

* Two out of three aint bad. But you will have to keep dreaming.

Ben 10,000 did mention to 10 year old Ben that something really bad would happen around about his teens... 16 wasn't it? And Kevin 11,000 only proves this point a litte, having Kevin being his fused crazy self, but with the ability to control it. Of course, this means a rather bleak future for Ben, he's gonna seal Kevin in the Null void with Gwen, possibly with Gwen showing signs of pregnency if Devlin Levin is Gwen's, which leads towards him becoming a bit more serious... then Vilgax will strike and that will lead towards Ben becoming who he was in Ben 10,000.

As for the plot hole of why he didn't use the Ultimatrix's ultimate forms in the future (Assuming it's evolved to look like the Omnitrix), one could argue its been so long since Ben's had to use it that he forgot to, or had Azmuth lock it away for safe keeping after turning Vilgax into... the assorment of muscles and organs in the mourge... that and he probably remembered what he showed himself when he was younger.

* Anyone effected by his energy absorbtion was restored when Kevin was drained, as evidenced by the complete return of the Andromeda aliens.

* Unlikely for Rath, considering that he only exists as a form of Ben's. Chromastone would make a decent choice on SixthRanger staus, though.

* So do that mean Eunice represents the best of Human DNA? or at the very least the best of Human/Mana Alien (what was the name?) hybrids. Is copying the traits of animals a inate human (or hybrid trait) all can learn or some quirk of the Unitrix trying to scan other forms?
** The copying is almost certainly an artifact of Unice being the Unitrix. But yeah, she's the apex of what can be made from the genes found in Gwen Tennyson. That is to say, extreme magical potential; given the source, it probably maximized her mana and innate abilities with magic in much the same way that it would maximize a necrofrigian's intangibility stamina and freezebreath lung capacity.

* As far as I remember they only appeared, in Null Void, so thet're more possibly some primitive barbarian spieces.
** Your thinking of something else, the rogue Plumber in WesternAnimation/Ben10 used a pair as attack dogs, their the orange canid aliens. That also doesn't change th fact the Omni/Ultimatrix consider them evolved enough to stand next to Diamondhead and Swampfire.
*** Rogue Plumer?...Phil? From "Truth" episode? He freed them from Null Void using Void projector. Max even commented that Plumers already captured all Vulpimancers.

[[WMG: Young Ben's appearence is just a preview of things to come]]

Think about it, Ultimate Kevin defeated Ultimate Aggregor, who'd been curbstomping the entire team, even with two Bens. Yet Ben managed to defeat Ultimate Kevin singlehandedly wit Ultimate [=EchoEcho=]. Why? Well the entire fight, from Gwen's perspective, was a IKnowYoureInThereSomewhereFight. Well in the end, the real Kevin, the one who'd managed to force himself not to attack Gwen but was completely overshadowed by Ultimate Kevin managed to resurface and let Ben defeat him, knowing if he didn't that he'd end up getting to Gwen.

According to WordOfGod Petrosapien (Diamondhead) should lose with time their chromastone clothes. And yet Ben still have them. Following that logic its possible that Sonorosians can create for example 100 copies, but if one dies its lost forever. But Ben just regaines lost ones with every transformation. Otherwise Echo Echos would just conquer entire galaxies. But of course we could assume that Ben lose his crystal clothes and thats why he stopped using Diamondhead...

Well, he looks different that other Terraspins. His name sound a bit girly. His voise may have changed from magic, or be natural for that race. [[TertiarySexualCharacteristics And he's partly pink.]]

[[WMG: If Season 2 has an overarcing plot thread (and so far there hasn't been a definitive indication that it will), it will focus on Ben's relationship with Julie.]]
Because so far that's been the only theme linking the several episodes that have already aired. Likely Eunice and possibly the Hive will play a role in the larger plot. It's also entirely possible that any overarcing plot for the season will be limited to only a handful of episodes, similar to Season 2 of the original show where the main plot arc was Kevin 11 seeking revenge on Ben, even though there were only 3 episodes in that season dealing with him.

** Thats depends on what they're counting as third season. I meant season one as first 20 episodes, while officialy season one end on episode 10 "Ultimate Aggregor". Also Ultimatrix-Omnitrix theory may still work out. After all why would they call series "Ultimate Alien" without Ultimatrix?

He implies in his fight with Eon they fought before (Race Against time) but Current Ben does not rememeber fighting Eon. Since Ben 10k remembers working with his younger self the "other time" had to be before that. Couse this also means a Ben 10k who DIDN'T fight eon cross timed to a world where Ultimatrix Ben did so it all works out.

* I see it that way: Race againt Time is a in alternative reality like what if-episodes. Our Ben 10 first met Eon in "Ben 10,000 returns" episode, who turns out to be from alternative universe. Later, in future he fought Eon from his timeline and some time later he met mentioned before Eon from alternative timeline. He propably thought it was his Eon, until he said "That wasm's me". Is that makes things clear?

[[WMG: Ben is one of the darkest characters in the series and, if, a villian breaks his mind, he could be the biggest threat in the franchise]]
* He had no friends before the first series and he was bullied, when he gets the Omnitrix he acts like a jerk to handle the implications, when he finally accepts it, Max's alien friend comes and tells him it was meant for Max, thus making him feel less special. He takes it off because he can't handle it any more and, by AF, Gwen was his only friend and their greeting made it seem like they hadn't seen each other for months, if not years. He gets intense when something bad happens to Max, not just because he loves his grampa, but because he feels like he lost his sense of control and order in his life. In UA, he is way more than willing to kill Kevin than the Silver Age characters he was inspired by. This one has been answered by the show itself, but it definitly proves he's a more tormented person than he looks.

Or will become one. His anti-alien beliefs would fit right in with them and it looks like he's now an enemy of Ben and company. It's possible he might even be the Forever King of the fourth group, as the leader we saw wasn't refered to as their leader or a Forever King.

This season's storyarch deals with the Forever Knights and they openly dispise each other. IT'd be pretty cool.

** Eunice returns when the Unitrix bodyjacks anodther girl, and gets all the animal- and nature-based forms, Spidermonkey, Terraspin, Swampfire, Brainstorm

[[WMG: Azmuth doen't beleive the Human race is worth jack squat]]
In one episode Azmuth said to ben that the omnitrix has access to every form of inteligent life in the univers, later we figured out he left out a few species, but since he knew Humans exist he must not consider us intelligent enough.\\
Follow Up: The omnitrix doesnt store DNA it stores a beacon that connects it to the home world that also doesn't store DNA, but instead a Copy of the DNA. It's written out as a code, and sent to Galvan Prime, the Omnitrix is a remote control, or pager, phone of some sort.

Yes, I know the fact that Ben crossing dimensions in ''[[{{Crossover}} Heroes United]]'' means the shows don't take place in the same universe. But Cooper has amazing technopathic abilities and has been declared by WordOfGod to not be half-alien. Maybe some time before his debut in the original series, young Cooper was near an open portal to the ''WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex'' universe at the moment [[MassSuperEmpoweringEvent The Event]] occured, and a stray cloud of nanites passed through the portal and infected Cooper but just subtly enough not to be noticed.

[[WMG: Not realy sure where to put this, but whatever. The WesternAnimation/Ben10 mix with WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex will prove that the two worlds exist on the same plane.]]

alt. Rex and his team will open up some sort of trans-dimentional portal (possibly by reuniting with Breach) to meet Ben in his world, or pull Ben to his world, where Ben will be confused about, "What is alien? & What is [=EVO=]?"

Considering how Ben can turn into the NonaRobots which are not biological entirely. I see very much possiblity of this happening in a future episode. Especialy if WordOfGod reads tropes.

** Maybe an Alpha equivelent is Ultimate NanoMech

[[WMG: Due to problems in the Ultimatrix, Ben will be the final villan of Ultimate Alien]]

[[WMG: The Ultimatrix uses diffrent DNA samples to the Omnitrix]]
This is why many of the OS aliens look diffrent (Heatblast looking like Alan, Upgrade being Green instead of white)
* Except, we were shown way back in ''Alien Force'' that such a thing is far from the case. Planet Primus' Codon Stream is the single source, and the matrix cores, no matter what shell they're encased in, are just recievers.

They look similar. They wear similar clothing. They have a similar moustache. And Ben 10,000 mentioned being the President of the Earth once, and while Mike Haggar was only a mayor, he was a mayor of a HUGE city. Coincidence? I think NOT!

DwayneMcDuffie is a master at ArcWelding. The pretty movie star will probably be a plot point in another arc.

Ben will be in his mid-twenties or so and mentoring a younger hero who reminds him of his younger self... and all the trouble that he brought with him. As a CastingGag the new hero will be a girl voiced by TaraStrong. Gwen and Kevin will be married with a kid and retired from active duty to play supporting roles. Julie will still be with Ben and much drama will be made about whether Ben will propose. The Big Bad will be a new character with ties to the young hero and powerful enough to give the much more experienced Ben a good fight (Ben hasn't gone Ultimate Ben yet), but can only be defeated by his apprentice. TO sum it up: Ben as the mentor and a single parent/guardian to a kid that drives him insane while slowly burrowing into his heart. Expect a PrecociousCrush to show up.

* Ultimate [[ExtremeOmnivore Upchuck]]: [[Pokemon Design becomes similar to Swalot.]]

[[WMG: [[CthulhuMythos Cthulhu himself]] will appear at some time.]]

The Omnitrix (and presumably, the Ulti-matrix) seems to work like a combination DNA scanner and database: you scan an alien's DNA, it's identified and unlocked for use. But, as we've seen, the forms aren't set in stone. In Ben10, we get to see a variety of variations on the theme, from "older forms" to weird variations of some Omnitrix aliens (such as the oddly-proportioned Lepidopterran seen in "Secret of the Omnitrix"). Possibly, what are called "ultimate evolutions" of already established aliens are simply different DNA samples from the same race.

** Your thinking of something else, the rogue Plumber in Ben10 used a pair as attack dogs, their the orange canid aliens. That also doesn't change th fact the Omni/Ultimatrix consider them evolved enough to stand next to Diamondhead and Swampfire.

The way things are going in this season it seems the Ben10 Verse is getting darker and less idealistic. The alien prison under area 51 and its ramifications, the return of Old George and the revamping of the Forever Knights into an actually dangerous entity and the slight deconstruction littered through the season (Ben's StepfordSmiler status is discussed and the realistic problems aliens and humans would have living together) indicate that Ben is in for a rough experience before the end of the season. When the new series starts Earth will have lost the protection of the treaties due to their civil rights violations and the actions of the Forever Knights. Vilgax will return and claim his loss to Ben during ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' is invalid and Earth is his by default. Ben, his team and their families will have to leave the planet and form a resistance in space while Vilgax hunts them all over the galaxy. Will Harangue will become TheQuisling to VIlgax and report on the hunt for the dangerous Ben (not that different from what he's doing already) and the Forever Knights will be devastated by fighting Vilgax's forces until there's barely any left, while the other villains either throw their lot in with Vilgax or form a resistance of their own. Even the Plumbers won't be any help since Ben is "legally" a criminal since Vilgax owns Earth and at best they can only look the other way while Ben tries to find allies to take back Earth. Ben ''will'' win, but at great cost and this is why Ben 10,000 acted so cheerful and perky during their team-up: he knows Ben is in for the roughest time of his life and wanted him enjoy what time he had left before it all goes to hell.

[[WMG: Not realy sure where to put this, but whatever. The Ben10 mix with WesternAnimation/GeneratorRex will prove that the two worlds exist on the same plane.]]

He knows the plan works, so why change it? And since he's generally portrayed as being DangerouslyGenreSavvy, it feels like something he would do.

''Someone'' has to kill Aggregor, since you can't let someone that DangerouslyGenreSavvy live. But none of the heroes can do it since this show is [[AnimationAgeGhetto meant for kids]]. After fixing everything in Legerdomain, Charmcaster will return just in time to finish off Aggregor after our heroes defeat him.

* Ultimate [[WolverineClaws Rath]]: ChuckNorris

Ben will be in his mid-twenties or so and mentoring a younger hero who reminds him of his younger self... and all the trouble that he brought with him. As a CastingGag the new hero will be a girl voiced by TaraStrong. Gwen and Kevin will be married with a kid and retired from active duty to play supporting roles. Julie will still be with Ben and much drama will be made about whether Ben will propose. The Big Bad will be a new character with ties to the young hero and powerful enough to give the much more experienced Ben a good fight (Ben hasn't gone Ultimate Ben yet), but can only be defeated by his apprentice. TO sum it up: Ben as TheObiWan and a single parent/guardian to a kid that drives him insane while slowly burrowing into his heart. Expect a PrecociousCrush to show up.

It's already been confirmed that Paradox can easily travel to other universes. And the fact that Ben will cross over to GeneratorRex's world confirms that "other universes" also includes other shows. So why not?

[[WMG:Cooper is an [[GeneratorRex E.V.O.]] ]]

[[WMG: Not realy sure where to put this, but whatever. The Ben10 mix with GeneratorRex will prove that the two worlds exist on the same plane.]]

[[WMG: If Ben goes "Ultimate Human" he will become SquirrelGirl]]

* Upon doing so he will experience ThePowerOfLove and have a HeelFaceTurn. Then he will vow to [[RobotChicken protect the environment]], [[MemeticMutation or fucking kill people]] that pollute.

It was a BlinkAndYoullMissIt moment, but did anyone else notice that the Ultimatrix briefly glowed ''yellow'' the first time Alpha hacked it? The only reason the watch didn't say something like, "Unknown DNA sample collected," was because Alpha shut it down before it had the chance to.

Sure he was beaten, but not killed. He will likely escape from wherever Paradox took him and seek revenge on Kevin. But being GenreSavvy he will wait until Ben and Gwen depower Kevin to make it easier for him to swoop in and kill them all. In the meantime Aggregor will capture every villain in the series and absorb all of their power to compensate for the power Kevin took from him.

[[WMG: The counter-intuitive physics that Paradox spoke about was PhineasAndFerb]] Because when I think counter-intuitive physics I think Phineas and Ferb.

** [[CaptainObvious Confirmed]]. ........ What? ''Someone'' had to say it.