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* CreatorBacklash: Their old [[MisogynySong lyrical content]]. While they aren't giving up any of the songs with it and will always view ''Molesting the Decapitated'' as a timeless and genre-defining album, they have come to regret the overtly misogynistic lyrical content from that and their other releases prior to ''Obscene Majesty'' (though they had mostly given it up on ''Conceived in Sewage'' save for "Fucked with Rats"). Their current take is that it was a product of its time and their aim as a bunch of young guys who wanted to make the single most extreme and disgusting album on the market, but now that everyone in the band is in their thirties and forties, most of them with families (and, in the case of Brad Fincher and Ruben Rosas, daughters), they simply have no good excuse to keep doing it.



* OldShame: Their old [[MisogynySong lyrical content]]. While they aren't giving up any of the songs with it and will always view ''Molesting the Decapitated'' as a timeless and genre-defining album, they have come to regret the overtly misogynistic lyrical content from that and their other releases prior to ''Obscene Majesty'' (though they had mostly given it up on ''Conceived in Sewage'' save for "Fucked with Rats"). Their current take is that it was a product of its time and their aim as a bunch of young guys who wanted to make the single most extreme and disgusting album on the market, but now that everyone in the band is in their thirties and forties, most of them with families (and, in the case of Brad Fincher and Ruben Rosas, daughters), they simply have no good excuse to keep doing it.
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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: JJ Polachek (Nekroi Theoi) was supposed to fill in for Ruben on at least one festival date in 2020 and posted his rendition of "A Virulent Strain of Retaliation" (which was part of his audition), but the COVID-19 crisis put an end to that.

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* WhatCouldHaveBeen: JJ Polachek (Nekroi Theoi) was supposed to fill in for Ruben on at least one festival date in 2020 and posted his rendition of "A Virulent Strain of Retaliation" (which was part of his audition), audition) on social media, but the COVID-19 crisis put an end to that.
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* PromotedFanboy: Chris Andrews, Eric Park and Dave Spencer.

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* PromotedFanboy: Chris Andrews, Eric Park and Dave Spencer.Spencer.
* WhatCouldHaveBeen: JJ Polachek (Nekroi Theoi) was supposed to fill in for Ruben on at least one festival date in 2020 and posted his rendition of "A Virulent Strain of Retaliation" (which was part of his audition), but the COVID-19 crisis put an end to that.
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Author Existence Failure (now renamed to Died During Production) is a trope for dying before finishing a work, not anytime a creator died.


* AuthorExistenceFailure: Wayne Knupp passed away in 2007.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Far bigger in Asia (particularly Southeast Asia) than they are in the US.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Far bigger in Asia (particularly Southeast Asia) Asia, especially Indonesia and the Philippines) than they are in the US.
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* OldShame: Their old [[MisogynySong lyrical content]]. While they aren't giving up any of the songs with it and will always view ''Molesting the Decapitated'' as a timeless and genre-defining album, they have come to regret the overtly misogynistic lyrical content from that and their other releases prior to ''Obscene Majesty'' (though they had mostly given it up on ''Conceived in Sewage'' save for "Fucked with Rats"). Their current take is that it was a product of its time and their aim as a bunch of young guys who wanted to make the single most extreme and disgusting album on the market, but now that everyone in the band is in their thirties and forties, most of them with families (and, in the case of Brad Fincher and Ruben Rosas, daughters), they simply have no good excuse to keep doing it.
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* DevelopmentHell: While large (four or more years) gaps between releases are common for them, the development cycle for ''Obscene Majesty'' qualifies as Development Hell for a variety of reasons. For one thing, the band played musical chairs with the lineup once again about a year after ''Conceived in Sewage'' was released, and while they did start working on new material as early as late 2014, it was in an extremely staggered fashion thanks to the generally busy personal lives of the members, and what little time that most of them (particularly Chris Andrews and Brad Fincher) had for the band was spent touring in Asia. Furthermore, while it is unknown just how much Kevin Clark wrote during his very brief return to the band, he didn't leave on particularly great terms and likely took whatever he had written with him. It wasn't until the end of 2018 and beginning of 2019 that they managed to finally make it back into the studio to track it after several false starts.

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* DevelopmentHell: While large (four or more years) gaps between releases are common for them, the development cycle for ''Obscene Majesty'' qualifies as Development Hell for a variety of reasons. For one thing, the band played musical chairs with the lineup once again about a year after ''Conceived in Sewage'' was released, and while they did start working on new material as early as late 2014, it was in an extremely staggered fashion thanks to the generally busy personal lives of the members, and what little time that most of them (particularly Chris Andrews and Brad Fincher) had for the band was usually spent touring in Asia. Furthermore, while it is unknown just how much Kevin Clark wrote during his very brief return to the band, he didn't leave on particularly great terms and likely took whatever he had written with him.Europe or Asia. It wasn't until the end of 2018 and beginning of 2019 that they managed to finally make it back into the studio to track it after several false starts.
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* DevelopmentHell: While large (four or more years) gaps between releases are common for them, the development cycle for ''Obscene Majesty'' qualifies as Development Hell for a variety of reasons. For one thing, the band played musical chairs with the lineup once again about a year after ''Conceived in Sewage'' was released, and while they did start working on new material as early as late 2014, it was in an extremely staggered fashion thanks to the generally busy personal lives of the members, and what little time that most of them (particularly Chris Andrews and Brad Fincher) had for the band was spent touring in Asia. Furthermore, while it is unknown just how much Kevin Clark wrote during his very brief return to the band, he didn't leave on particularly great terms and likely took whatever he had written with him. It wasn't until the end of 2018 and beginning of 2019 that they managed to finally make it back into the studio to track it after several false starts.
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Wayne Knupp.

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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Wayne Knupp.Knupp passed away in 2007.
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* OneOfUs: Rosas and Fincher are known for their love of comic books, while Majewski is an avid horror fan.
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: Far bigger in Asia (particularly Southeast Asia) than they are in the US.

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* PromotedFanboy: Eric Park and Dave Spencer.
* ShrugOfGod: Many a fan has asked about the significance of "138", and none have ever gotten a straight answer from Majewski. Most of the answers have been to the effect of "I don't even remember", but more sarcastic ones have been given, namely "one dollar, three tacos, eight hours on the shitter". The most common hypothesis is that it's North Texas police code for grave robbery or vandalism, and Majewski has neither confirmed nor denied this.[[note]]It should also be noted, however, that 138 is also frequently used as code for drunk and disorderly conduct, which very well could be an intentional self-deprecatory jab. That being said, police code is hardly universal and frequently varies significantly from state to state, so this may or may not be a red herring.[[/note]]

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* PromotedFanboy: Chris Andrews, Eric Park and Dave Spencer.
* ShrugOfGod: Many a fan has asked about the significance of "138", and none have ever gotten a straight answer from Majewski. Most of the answers have been to the effect of "I don't even remember", but more sarcastic ones have been given, namely "one dollar, three tacos, eight hours on the shitter". The most common hypothesis is that it's North Texas police code for grave robbery or vandalism, and Majewski has neither confirmed nor denied this.[[note]]It should also be noted, however, that 138 is also frequently used as code for drunk and disorderly conduct, which very well could be an intentional self-deprecatory jab. That being said, police code is hardly universal and frequently varies significantly from state to state, so this may or may not be a red herring.[[/note]]
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* AuthorExistenceFailure: Wayne Knupp.
* OneOfUs: Rosas and Fincher are known for their love of comic books, while Majewski is an avid horror fan.
* PromotedFanboy: Eric Park and Dave Spencer.
* ShrugOfGod: Many a fan has asked about the significance of "138", and none have ever gotten a straight answer from Majewski. Most of the answers have been to the effect of "I don't even remember", but more sarcastic ones have been given, namely "one dollar, three tacos, eight hours on the shitter". The most common hypothesis is that it's North Texas police code for grave robbery or vandalism, and Majewski has neither confirmed nor denied this.[[note]]It should also be noted, however, that 138 is also frequently used as code for drunk and disorderly conduct, which very well could be an intentional self-deprecatory jab. That being said, police code is hardly universal and frequently varies significantly from state to state, so this may or may not be a red herring.[[/note]]

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