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** Much to everyone's shock, Manfroy gets a moment like this in the manga. The game implied that he was bitter and angry after the sect was all but wiped out in his past. Here, there's a flashback during Manfroy and Lewyn's fight in Belhalla: it begins with a pre-teen Manfroy and his best friend as innocent kids from the sect, unaware of why they have to live underground... then it has them trying to see the world, being captured, and then being burned at the stake alongside Manfroy's parents. Then the flasback finishes and the now completely embittered Manfroy angrily finishes telling his backstory to the clearly stunned Lewyn and Erinys (with Lewyn getting the ''shock'' of his life), attacking them in rage and confirming his anger at the world, and he's even briefly seen [[BerserkerTears crying]].

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** Much to everyone's shock, Manfroy gets a moment like this in the manga. The game implied that he was bitter and angry after the sect was all but wiped out in his past. Here, there's a flashback during Manfroy and Lewyn's fight in Belhalla: it begins with a pre-teen Manfroy and his best friend as innocent kids from the sect, unaware of why they have to live underground... then it has them trying to see the world, being captured, and then being burned at the stake alongside Manfroy's parents. Then the flasback flashback finishes and the now completely embittered Manfroy angrily finishes telling his backstory to the clearly stunned Lewyn and Erinys (with Lewyn getting the ''shock'' of his life), attacking them in rage and confirming his anger at the world, and he's even briefly seen [[BerserkerTears crying]].
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* Ironically, Arvis himself becomes tearjerker material in the second half. He's lost the woman he loved, his son's been turned evil, his empire and all his plans for world peace were ruined by Manfroy, Azelle's long dead by this point...all that's left for him is death. Not to mention the heavy (as in, all but explicitly stated) implication that Arvis commits SuicideByCop.

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* Ironically, Arvis himself becomes tearjerker material in the second half. He's lost the woman he loved, his son's been turned evil, his empire and all his plans for world peace were ruined by Manfroy, Azelle's long dead by this point...all and Azelle may have been one of the casualties of that fateful battle at the end of Ch.5... All that's left for him is death. Not to mention the heavy (as in, all but explicitly stated) implication that Arvis commits SuicideByCop.
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''No, it may have already met its end, ever since the king of the land of "[[KnightInShiningArmor knights]]"... [[KillEmAll had lost all his "knights"]].''

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''No, it may have already met its end, ever since the king of the land of "[[KnightInShiningArmor knights]]"... [[KillEmAll had lost all his "knights"]]."knights".''
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* When Seliph enters the ruins of Yied shrine and learns about the tragic origins of the dark cult of Loptous, specifically that they were persecuted and put through witch hunts until living in hiding and seclusion eventually drove them insane, Seliph is absolutely ''horrified'' to see what appears to be the handwriting of a ''child'' from the cult praying for the dark lord's revival. All Seliph can say is "...Is [[GodOfEvil Loptous]] the only god they have?"

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* When Seliph enters the ruins of Yied shrine and learns about the tragic origins of the dark cult of Loptous, Loptr Church, specifically that they were persecuted and put through witch hunts until living in hiding and seclusion eventually drove them insane, Seliph is absolutely ''horrified'' to see what appears to be the handwriting of a ''child'' from the cult praying for the dark lord's revival. All Seliph can say is "...Is [[GodOfEvil Loptous]] the only god they have?"

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* Edain lost her sister at sea and spent years searching for her. She finally finds her, and Brigid joins Sigurd's army. [[spoiler:By the time the army reaches Grannvale, their brother Andrey is working with Arvis, so any meeting between him and his sisters will go badly. Meanwhile, their father, Ring, has been killed by his own son, and never got to see Brigid again. And worse for Edain, her success on finding Brigid was short-lived as eventually they got separated ''again'' by the Battle of Belhalla, and Edain had to raise the next generation while knowing that her quest to reunite with her sister for good was yanked away from her after a short time. Brigid might have survived by the account of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThracia776'', but at that point, she just lost her memories and ran the risk of being turned to stone and raised as a Deadlord...]]
* The WhamEpisode. [[spoiler:Have fun watching that list of names of your now dead army roll, knowing that everything they'd done up until that point was meaningless!]]
** It was bad enough being blindsided halfway through the game when [[spoiler:Ethlyn and Quan are killed and their daughter Altena taken captive]], but that very same chapter ends with [[spoiler:your ally Arvis betraying you and murdering nearly every available playable character, including the main character Sigurd]].
** Ironically, [[spoiler:Arvis himself]] becomes tearjerker material in the second half. [[spoiler:He's lost the woman he loved, his son's been turned evil, his empire and all his plans for world peace were ruined by Manfroy, Azelle's long dead by this point...all that's left for him is death]].
*** Not to mention the heavy (as in, all but explicitly stated) implication that Arvis [[spoiler:commits SuicideByCop. Or rather, Suicide-By-Half-Nephew-That-You-Helped-Orphan.]]
** And for some extra "fun", read the manga. For starters, there's the entire subplot about [[spoiler:Eldigan and Lachesis, especially her total emotional breakdown after he died...]] In general, that thing is excellent at capturing the characters' emotions and personalities and all, which makes the entire thing extra depressing if you see something good happen to them for once, while knowing [[spoiler:of the great plot twist of Chapter 5.]] This creates a constant air of uncomfortable dread.
** Seliph's conversation with [[spoiler:the ghost of his parents after killing Arvis, especially with the remixed version of Seliph's theme.]]
* Try to pair Lewyn with Tailtiu. Then get him to talk with Tine in Chapter 10 (through Seliph). [[spoiler:Tine will then reveal Tailtiu's [[BreakTheCutie downward spiral]] from a GenkiGirl into a very depressed BrokenBird thanks to that [[EvilMatriarch bitch of a sister-in-law Hilda]]. It even makes Lewyn, who is all aloof to the deaths of his other potential wives, actually BAWL. He dismisses it as [[SandInMyEyes sweat in his eyes]], though.]]
** If you pair him with Silvia and then get him to talk to Lene, the results are also pretty sad. [[spoiler:Lene will tell him about herself and her lonely years at the Darna orphanage, and how she wonders what she did to deserve abandonment. Lewyn will try to cheer her up by saying her parents had good reasons to leave her there but they'll come back to her some day... then Lene mentions that she's often felt watched over by someone else, and she wants to know who and where her MysteriousProtector is. And Lewyn can't tell her that ''he'' is her dad, maybe because after being revived/possessed by Forseti, he can't remember everything clearly...]]

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* Edain lost her sister at sea and spent years searching for her. She finally finds her, and Brigid joins Sigurd's army. [[spoiler:By By the time the army reaches Grannvale, their brother Andrey is working with Arvis, so any meeting between him and his sisters will go badly. Meanwhile, their father, Ring, has been killed by his own son, and never got to see Brigid again. And worse for Edain, her success on finding Brigid was short-lived as eventually they got separated ''again'' by the Battle of Belhalla, and Edain had to raise the next generation while knowing that her quest to reunite with her sister for good was yanked away from her after a short time. Brigid might have survived by the account of ''VideoGame/FireEmblemThracia776'', but at that point, she just lost her memories and ran the risk of being turned to stone and raised as a Deadlord...]]
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* The WhamEpisode. [[spoiler:Have Have fun watching that list of names of your now dead army roll, knowing that everything they'd done up until that point was meaningless!]]
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meaningless! It was bad enough being blindsided halfway through the game when [[spoiler:Ethlyn Ethlyn and Quan are killed and their daughter Altena taken captive]], captive, but that very same chapter ends with [[spoiler:your your ally Arvis betraying you and murdering nearly every available playable character, including the main character Sigurd]].
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Ironically, [[spoiler:Arvis himself]] Arvis himself becomes tearjerker material in the second half. [[spoiler:He's He's lost the woman he loved, his son's been turned evil, his empire and all his plans for world peace were ruined by Manfroy, Azelle's long dead by this point...all that's left for him is death]].
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death. Not to mention the heavy (as in, all but explicitly stated) implication that Arvis [[spoiler:commits SuicideByCop. Or rather, Suicide-By-Half-Nephew-That-You-Helped-Orphan.]]
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commits SuicideByCop.
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And for some extra "fun", read the manga. For starters, there's the entire subplot about [[spoiler:Eldigan Eldigan and Lachesis, especially her total emotional breakdown after he died...]] died... In general, that thing is excellent at capturing the characters' emotions and personalities and all, which makes the entire thing extra depressing if you see something good happen to them for once, while knowing [[spoiler:of of the great plot twist of Chapter 5.]] 5. This creates a constant air of uncomfortable dread.
** Seliph's conversation with [[spoiler:the the ghost of his parents after killing Arvis, especially with the remixed version of Seliph's theme.]]
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* Try to pair Lewyn with Tailtiu. Then get him to talk with Tine in Chapter 10 (through Seliph). [[spoiler:Tine Tine will then reveal Tailtiu's [[BreakTheCutie downward spiral]] from a GenkiGirl into a very depressed BrokenBird thanks to that [[EvilMatriarch bitch of a sister-in-law Hilda]]. It even makes Lewyn, who is all aloof to the deaths of his other potential wives, actually BAWL. He dismisses it as [[SandInMyEyes sweat in his eyes]], though.]]
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If you pair him Lewyn with Silvia and then get him to talk to Lene, the results are also pretty sad. [[spoiler:Lene Lene will tell him about herself and her lonely years at the Darna orphanage, and how she wonders what she did to deserve abandonment. Lewyn will try to cheer her up by saying her parents had good reasons to leave her there but they'll come back to her some day... then Lene mentions that she's often felt watched over by someone else, and she wants to know who and where her MysteriousProtector is. And Lewyn can't tell her that ''he'' is her dad, maybe because after being revived/possessed by Forseti, he can't remember everything clearly...]]



* Erinys' HeroicBSOD when she learns [[spoiler:that Annand, her beloved older sister, was killed by the {{Face Heel Turn}}ed Pamela.]]

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* Erinys' HeroicBSOD when she learns [[spoiler:that that Annand, her beloved older sister, was killed by the {{Face Heel Turn}}ed Pamela.]]



** And in the second part, when [[spoiler:Altena thanks Finn for raising her brother Leif and then mentions how she vaguely remembers playing and spending time with him before things went downhill... and Finn [[ManlyTears starts crying]].]]
* The part where [[spoiler:Deirdre is subjected to HypnotizeThePrincess by Manfroy]] was already sad in the game. [[AdaptationExpansion The Oosawa manga, though?]] Made it ''far'' worse, since [[spoiler:not only is she captured while trying to fight against Manfroy to protect Augusty castle [[MamaBear and the three children with her]] (baby!Seliph, Oifey and Shannan), but we get to see her train of thoughts when she's being brainwashed and how she tearfully attempts to fight back, but in the end she can't do anything.]] Holy ''crap''...
** Don't forget Oosawa's rendition of [[spoiler:Eldigan's death and Lachesis almost crossing the DespairEventHorizon afterwards, barely avoiding it thanks to Finn.]] Those were damn well-done and sad too.
*** It's bad enough just hearing that Eldigan [[spoiler:has been executed by decapitation]], but in the manga? Chagall actually [[spoiler:''sends the head to Sigurd and his troops'']].
* Also, Oosawa's version of Silvia's challenge to Erinys. [[TheWoobie Aw Silvia, you poor baby.]] Made worse because Erinys later cries in Annand's arms too.
* In the Oosawa manga, Erinys ends up meeting Sigurd when one the Agustrian soldiers impales a child after the boy's mother pleaded to be allowed to flee. Erinys and her team take the boy to the castle to have him healed, and she catches a glimpse of Lewyn as she does. She wonders if it's an illusion, but stays focused on getting the child medical help. [[spoiler:The kid doesn't make it.]]
* Despite being LighterAndSofter, the Nuts Fujimori manga has a surprising tear jerker in the last chapter. Sigurd meets with his father and receives the Tyrfing Sword. He looks into the sword's reflection and sees [[spoiler:the future Seliph, Oifey and Shanan]]. Sigurd gestures for Oifey to bring Seliph to him so Byron can see his grandson. [[spoiler:It ends up being the last thing Byron sees before he dies, and Sigurd ''weeps'' as he holds his dead father in his arms.]] And the very last scene? [[spoiler: It's about Sigurd recalling his, Eldigan and Quan's promise to grow strong and be friends forever.]]
* The Nea Fuyuki manga expands on Ares's confrontation with Seliph. The guy lost both of his parents at a very early age, and grew up believing that [[spoiler:Sigurd had killed his father (which, depending on your actions, might be the case)]], and used that hatred as fuel for living. For him, the happiest moment of his life is being able to [[spoiler:[[SinsOfTheFather fight Seliph, Sigurd's son]].]] Even Seliph seems upset by the story.
** This gets even worse if recall the conversation Lachesis can have with Naoise in Chapter 5 (assuming you paired them up): Sigurd is actually looking for Ares despite the fact that [[spoiler:Eldigan is long dead]]. That Ares ended up growing up hating Sigurd and Seliph by proxy is a horrible tragedy.

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** And in the second part, when [[spoiler:Altena Altena thanks Finn for raising her brother Leif and then mentions how she vaguely remembers playing and spending time with him before things went downhill... and Finn [[ManlyTears starts crying]].]]
crying]].
* The part where [[spoiler:Deirdre Deirdre is subjected to HypnotizeThePrincess {{brainwashing}} by Manfroy]] Manfroy was already sad in the game. [[AdaptationExpansion The Oosawa manga, though?]] Made it ''far'' worse, since [[spoiler:not not only is she captured while trying to fight against Manfroy to protect Augusty castle [[MamaBear and the three children with her]] (baby!Seliph, Oifey and Shannan), but we get to see her train of thoughts when she's being brainwashed and how she tearfully attempts to fight back, but in the end she can't do anything.]] Holy ''crap''...
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Oosawa's rendition of [[spoiler:Eldigan's Eldigan's death and Lachesis almost crossing the DespairEventHorizon afterwards, barely avoiding it thanks to Finn.]] Those were damn well-done and sad too.
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Finn. It's bad enough just hearing that Eldigan [[spoiler:has has been executed by decapitation]], decapitation, but in the manga? Chagall actually [[spoiler:''sends sends the head to Sigurd and his troops'']].
troops.
* Also, Oosawa's version of Silvia's challenge to Erinys. [[TheWoobie Aw Silvia, you poor baby.]] Made worse because Erinys later cries in Annand's arms too.
* In the Oosawa manga, Erinys ends up meeting Sigurd when one the Agustrian soldiers impales a child after the boy's mother pleaded to be allowed to flee. Erinys and her team take the boy to the castle to have him healed, and she catches a glimpse of Lewyn as she does. She wonders if it's an illusion, but stays focused on getting the child medical help. [[spoiler:The The kid doesn't make it.]]
it.
* Despite being LighterAndSofter, the Nuts Fujimori manga has a surprising tear jerker in the last chapter. Sigurd meets with his father and receives the Tyrfing Sword. He looks into the sword's reflection and sees [[spoiler:the the future Seliph, Oifey and Shanan]].Shanan. Sigurd gestures for Oifey to bring Seliph to him so Byron can see his grandson. [[spoiler:It It ends up being the last thing Byron sees before he dies, and Sigurd ''weeps'' as he holds his dead father in his arms.]] arms. And the very last scene? [[spoiler: It's about Sigurd recalling his, Eldigan and Quan's promise to grow strong and be friends forever.]]
forever.
* The Nea Fuyuki manga expands on Ares's confrontation with Seliph. The guy lost both of his parents at a very early age, and grew up believing that [[spoiler:Sigurd Sigurd had killed his father (which, depending on your actions, might be the case)]], case), and used that hatred as fuel for living. For him, the happiest moment of his life is being able to [[spoiler:[[SinsOfTheFather [[SinsOfTheFather fight Seliph, Sigurd's son]].]] son]]. Even Seliph seems upset by the story.
** This gets even worse if recall the conversation Lachesis can have with Naoise in Chapter 5 (assuming you paired them up): Sigurd is actually looking for Ares despite the fact that [[spoiler:Eldigan Eldigan is long dead]].dead. That Ares ended up growing up hating Sigurd and Seliph by proxy is a horrible tragedy.



*** In terms of the horrific fate of Tailtiu, just to break it down: She was already on the way of breaking when she thought she was unwelcome in Sigurd's army just by being Reptor's daughter. Then if they face each other in battle, he disowns her for the house's reputation. Then the Battle of Belhalla happens, she gets separated from Arthur, and withstands years of abuse from Hilda to protect Tine to the point she died miserably where she never had a day without crying. It was that horrible that if he's Arthur/Tine's father and hearing it, Lewyn, usually dismissive to his default children, was on the verge of bawling. Yes, her fate was bad enough that [[spoiler:a Dragon God possessing his body cracked a bit to get him to show some sorrow.]]

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*** In terms of the horrific fate of Tailtiu, just to break it down: She was already on the way of breaking when she thought she was unwelcome in Sigurd's army just by being Reptor's daughter. Then if they face each other in battle, he disowns her for the house's reputation. Then the Battle of Belhalla happens, she gets separated from Arthur, and withstands years of abuse from Hilda to protect Tine to the point she died miserably where she never had a day without crying. It was that horrible that if he's Arthur/Tine's father and hearing it, Lewyn, usually dismissive to his default children, was on the verge of bawling. Yes, her fate was bad enough that [[spoiler:a a Dragon God possessing his body cracked a bit to get him to show some sorrow.]]



** And then the ''adults'', most of whom were survivors of the Gen 1 group, don't have it easy either. Lewyn's become heavily jaded (not helped by [[spoiler:his mother having died shortly after the Battle of Belhalla]]), Oifey's suffering from a case of SurvivorGuilt, Shannan's still blaming himself years later for [[spoiler:failing to protect Deirdre and thus robbing Seliph of his mother]], and Finn's a mess after losing [[spoiler:Quan and Ethlyn and failing to protect Altena]].
* When Seliph enters the ruins of Yied shrine and learns about the tragic origins of the dark cult of Loptous, [[spoiler:specifically that they were persecuted and put through witch hunts until living in hiding and seclusion eventually drove them insane]], Seliph is absolutely ''horrified'' to see [[spoiler:what appears to be the handwriting of a ''child'' from the cult praying for the dark lord's revival. All Seliph can say is "...Is [[GodOfEvil Loptous]] the only god they have?"]]
** This also gets expanded on in the Oosawa manga, where there are still some survivors living in the shrine. After the situation with recruiting Shannan is dealt with, the people in the nearby town [[spoiler:drag them out in the open in order to lynch them]]. Seliph is barely able to rescue the children [[spoiler:from being stoned to death]].

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** And then the ''adults'', most of whom were survivors of the Gen 1 group, don't have it easy either. Lewyn's become heavily jaded (not helped by [[spoiler:his his mother having died shortly after the Battle of Belhalla]]), Belhalla), Oifey's suffering from a case of SurvivorGuilt, Shannan's still blaming himself years later for [[spoiler:failing failing to protect Deirdre and thus robbing Seliph of his mother]], mother, and Finn's a mess after losing [[spoiler:Quan Quan and Ethlyn and failing to protect Altena]].
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* When Seliph enters the ruins of Yied shrine and learns about the tragic origins of the dark cult of Loptous, [[spoiler:specifically specifically that they were persecuted and put through witch hunts until living in hiding and seclusion eventually drove them insane]], insane, Seliph is absolutely ''horrified'' to see [[spoiler:what what appears to be the handwriting of a ''child'' from the cult praying for the dark lord's revival. All Seliph can say is "...Is [[GodOfEvil Loptous]] the only god they have?"]]
have?"
** This also gets expanded on in the Oosawa manga, where there are still some survivors living in the shrine. After the situation with recruiting Shannan is dealt with, the people in the nearby town [[spoiler:drag drag them out in the open in order to lynch them]]. them. Seliph is barely able to rescue the children [[spoiler:from from being stoned to death]].death.



* [[spoiler:Quan and Ethlyn's deaths.]] You're close enough that it almost feels like you can save them, but nope, you have to watch them die. [[spoiler:It's especially bad if Quan's still alive when Ethlyn is killed, as Travant holds the infant Altena hostage against him.]]
* Julia can (and, being the only one suited for it, likely ''will'') [[spoiler:kill her twin brother, whom she once loved dearly. Depending on how you look at it, it makes it better or worse that as far as Julia's concerned, [[ThatManIsDead Julius has been as good as dead for years now]], ever since Loptous possessed him and, in her words, deprived her of both her brother and mother.]]

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* [[spoiler:Quan Quan and Ethlyn's deaths.]] deaths. You're close enough that it almost feels like you can save them, but nope, you have to watch them die. [[spoiler:It's It's especially bad if Quan's still alive when Ethlyn is killed, as Travant holds the infant Altena hostage against him.]]
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* Julia can (and, being the only one suited for it, likely ''will'') [[spoiler:kill kill her twin brother, whom she once loved dearly. Depending on how you look at it, it makes it better or worse that as far as Julia's concerned, [[ThatManIsDead Julius has been as good as dead for years now]], ever since Loptous possessed him and, in her words, deprived her of both her brother and mother.]]



*** Eldigan nearly accidentally kills Lachesis when [[spoiler:she pulls a GoThroughMe to save Quan]]. She flat-out asks him, "Is it a knight's honour to betray his friends?" and tells him that if so, then instead of having to see this side of her brother, she'd rather he just kill her right then and there.
*** Then, there's Zyne, who's made an AntiVillain who pinned so much hope on the idea of Eldigan becoming king of Agustria (being by far and away the most ideal candidate) to the point of [[spoiler:him and all of his men sacrificing themselves for it]], but it never comes to pass. Eldigan feels utterly unworthy of the throne and is killed, with the realization that Agustria, once a noble country, has fallen to corruption.

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*** Eldigan nearly accidentally kills Lachesis when [[spoiler:she she pulls a GoThroughMe to save Quan]].Quan. She flat-out asks him, "Is it a knight's honour to betray his friends?" and tells him that if so, then instead of having to see this side of her brother, she'd rather he just kill her right then and there.
*** Then, there's Zyne, who's made an AntiVillain who pinned so much hope on the idea of Eldigan becoming king of Agustria (being by far and away the most ideal candidate) to the point of [[spoiler:him him and all of his men sacrificing themselves for it]], it, but it never comes to pass. Eldigan feels utterly unworthy of the throne and is killed, with the realization that Agustria, once a noble country, has fallen to corruption.



*** And to wrap it up, this pushes [[spoiler:Lachesis to the edge of the DespairEventHorizon for quite some time, only getting better in a tearjerking scene where Finn has her ''stab him'' with the [[TragicKeepsake Earth Sword]] to replenish her life, which (among other things) finally convinces her to begin recovering]].

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*** And to wrap it up, this pushes [[spoiler:Lachesis Lachesis to the edge of the DespairEventHorizon for quite some time, only getting better in a tearjerking scene where Finn has her ''stab him'' with the [[TragicKeepsake Earth Sword]] to replenish her life, which (among other things) finally convinces her to begin recovering]].recovering.



* The Oosawa manga makes Deirdre an AscendedExtra, giving her and Sigurd's relationship more development. It's sweet to see how much they love each other and how Deirdre views Sigurd as her KnightInShiningArmor... [[spoiler:making it ten times worse when she's abducted and brainwashed into forgetting him, with her screaming and unsuccessfully fighting it, with Manfroy then tossing her wedding ring to the side.]] Unlike most cases of HypnotizeThePrincess, ''this one never gets better''.
** Well, technically it does, [[HopeSpot briefly]]. [[spoiler:The sight of Sigurd returns Deirdre's memories, they embrace, and Sigurd offers his hand to Arvis in reconciliation, having come to understand loss and loneliness and asking him to help build a world of peace. Arvis seems about to accept before '''''disintegrating Sigurd in front of Deirdre''''', which turns her [[HeroicBSOD essentially catatonic]]. She can only [[DullEyesOfUnhappiness stare blankly]] at the ashes, crying BrokenTears, and doesn't react at all as Arvis carries her away. Deirdre's later monologue implies that she stayed like this until ''after'' her children by Arvis were born, which carries a question of [[FridgeHorror how]] the twins were [[DudeShesLikeInAComa conceived]].]]

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* The Oosawa manga makes Deirdre an AscendedExtra, giving her and Sigurd's relationship more development. It's sweet to see how much they love each other and how Deirdre views Sigurd as her KnightInShiningArmor... [[spoiler:making making it ten times worse when she's abducted and brainwashed into forgetting him, with her screaming and unsuccessfully fighting it, with Manfroy then tossing her wedding ring to the side.]] Unlike most cases of HypnotizeThePrincess, ''this one never gets better''.
** Well, technically it does, [[HopeSpot briefly]]. [[spoiler:The
side. The sight of Sigurd returns Deirdre's memories, they embrace, and Sigurd offers his hand to Arvis in reconciliation, having come to understand loss and loneliness and asking him to help build a world of peace. Arvis seems about to accept before '''''disintegrating disintegrating Sigurd in front of Deirdre''''', Deirdre, which turns her [[HeroicBSOD essentially catatonic]]. She can only [[DullEyesOfUnhappiness stare blankly]] at the ashes, crying BrokenTears, and doesn't react at all as Arvis carries her away. Deirdre's later monologue implies that she stayed like this until ''after'' her children by Arvis were born, which carries a question of [[FridgeHorror how]] the twins were [[DudeShesLikeInAComa conceived]].]]



** If Leif, whom [[UndyingLoyalty Finn has spent the entire timeskip looking after]], dies... well, after [[spoiler:similarly losing Quan and Ethlyn seventeen years ago]], one can imagine how he feels about ''that''.

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** If Leif, whom [[UndyingLoyalty Finn has spent the entire timeskip looking after]], dies... well, after [[spoiler:similarly similarly losing Quan and Ethlyn seventeen years ago]], ago, one can imagine how he feels about ''that''.



*** And after all of that, fate still decides to piss on him by having Azelle and Tailtiu get pursued by Velthomer soldiers and end up on a cliff, and Azelle eventually throws the two of them to the sea, regretting that he couldn't inform Sigurd of Arvis' plan. And from Sigurd's POV, Azelle is MIA while Tailtiu is considered KIA. [[spoiler:They actually survived because Arthur and Tine would appear in the 2nd generation.]]
** Much to everyone's shock, Manfroy gets a moment like this in the manga. [[TheCorrupter MAN]]-[[MagnificentBastard FUCKING]]-[[ManipulativeBastard FROY.]] [[spoiler:The game implied that he was bitter and angry after the sect was all but wiped out in his past. Here, there's a flashback during Manfroy and Lewyn's fight in Belhalla: it begins with a pre-teen Manfroy and his best friend as innocent kids from the sect, unaware of why they have to live underground... then it has them trying to see the world, being captured, and then being burned at the stake alongside Manfroy's parents. Then the flasback finishes and the now completely embittered Manfroy angrily finishes telling his backstory to the clearly stunned Lewyn and Erinys (with Lewyn getting the ''shock'' of his life), attacking them in rage and confirming his anger at the world, and he's even briefly seen [[BerserkerTears crying]].]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Oh dear.]]

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*** And after all of that, fate still decides to piss on him by having Azelle and Tailtiu get pursued by Velthomer soldiers and end up on a cliff, and Azelle eventually throws the two of them to the sea, regretting that he couldn't inform Sigurd of Arvis' plan. And from Sigurd's POV, Azelle is MIA while Tailtiu is considered KIA. [[spoiler:They They actually survived because Arthur and Tine would appear in the 2nd generation.]]
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** Much to everyone's shock, Manfroy gets a moment like this in the manga. [[TheCorrupter MAN]]-[[MagnificentBastard FUCKING]]-[[ManipulativeBastard FROY.]] [[spoiler:The The game implied that he was bitter and angry after the sect was all but wiped out in his past. Here, there's a flashback during Manfroy and Lewyn's fight in Belhalla: it begins with a pre-teen Manfroy and his best friend as innocent kids from the sect, unaware of why they have to live underground... then it has them trying to see the world, being captured, and then being burned at the stake alongside Manfroy's parents. Then the flasback finishes and the now completely embittered Manfroy angrily finishes telling his backstory to the clearly stunned Lewyn and Erinys (with Lewyn getting the ''shock'' of his life), attacking them in rage and confirming his anger at the world, and he's even briefly seen [[BerserkerTears crying]].]] [[WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds Oh dear.]]



* In the game, the only way to see the replacement children in Gen 2 is to let the Gen 1 women die or go unpaired. In the Oosawa manga, Larcei and Scáthach's replacements, Dalvin and Creidne are shown together with them. Dalvin was MadeASlave and only barely survived while Creidne is a PosthumousCharacter, having [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed herself]] to save Seliph and the other children in a flashback. [[spoiler:And it was enough to make Dalvin pull a FaceHeelTurn and then [[FaceDeathWithDignity gladly let himself get executed]], his last thoughts being of his sister and of how Seliph, despite Dalvin's ultimate lack of faith, has promised to make the world better.]] For those who usually dismiss substitute characters, this is actually a scene that can make the readers [[AlasPoorScrappy care and shed a tear for them]].
* Great news! The Oosawa manga manages to spare both Iuchar and Iucharba rather than have one killed off. Bad news, however: despite both being sympathetically portrayed, their father Danann was such a cruel bastard to the Isaachsians that the angry and hurt people who are aiding Seliph and co. [[SinsOfOurFathers mistreat the two when they're prisoners]], which causes quite the conflict. And to twist the knife more, Iucharba explains to Larcei and Scáthach one of the worst episodes of his past... [[spoiler:how, [[HarmfulToMinors as children]], he and Iuchar witnessed Danann's betrayal and murder of Ayra and Lex, the twins' parents]].
* Great news again! In the Oosawa manga, Dew apparently survived Belhalla and became Patty's hunky dad! Bad news: [[spoiler:just as he met Shannan who retrieved Balmung, Dew had to cover for Patty and got himself killed... right in front of her. Poor Patty... and this is definitely not the kind of reunion Shannan was looking for...]]

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* In the game, the only way to see the replacement children in Gen 2 is to let the Gen 1 women die or go unpaired. In the Oosawa manga, Larcei and Scáthach's replacements, Dalvin and Creidne are shown together with them. Dalvin was MadeASlave and only barely survived while Creidne is a PosthumousCharacter, having [[HeroicSacrifice sacrificed herself]] to save Seliph and the other children in a flashback. [[spoiler:And it It was enough to make Dalvin pull a FaceHeelTurn and then [[FaceDeathWithDignity gladly let himself get executed]], his last thoughts being of his sister and of how Seliph, despite Dalvin's ultimate lack of faith, has promised to make the world better.]] better. For those who usually dismiss substitute characters, this is actually a scene that can make the readers [[AlasPoorScrappy care and shed a tear for them]].
* Great news! The Oosawa manga manages to spare both Iuchar and Iucharba rather than have one killed off. Bad news, however: despite both being sympathetically portrayed, their father Danann was such a cruel bastard to the Isaachsians that the angry and hurt people who are aiding Seliph and co. [[SinsOfOurFathers mistreat the two when they're prisoners]], which causes quite the conflict. And to twist the knife more, Iucharba explains to Larcei and Scáthach one of the worst episodes of his past... [[spoiler:how, how, [[HarmfulToMinors as children]], he and Iuchar witnessed Danann's betrayal and murder of Ayra and Lex, the twins' parents]].
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* Great news again! In the Oosawa manga, Dew apparently survived Belhalla and became Patty's hunky dad! Bad news: [[spoiler:just just as he met Shannan who retrieved Balmung, Dew had to cover for Patty and got himself killed... right in front of her. Poor Patty... and this is definitely not the kind of reunion Shannan was looking for...]]

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* The part where [[spoiler:Deirdre is subjected to HypnotizeThePrincess by Manfroy]] was already sad in the game. [[AdaptationExpansion The Oosawa manga, though?]] Made it ''far'' worse, since [[spoiler:not only is she captured while trying to fight against Manfroy to protect Augusty castle [[MamaBear and the three children with her]] (baby!Seliph, Oifey and Shannan), [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/33.html but we get to see]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/34.html her train of thoughts]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/35.html when she's being brainwashed]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/36.html and how she tearfully attempts to fight back]], [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/37.html but in the end she can't do anything]].]] Holy ''crap''...

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* The part where [[spoiler:Deirdre is subjected to HypnotizeThePrincess by Manfroy]] was already sad in the game. [[AdaptationExpansion The Oosawa manga, though?]] Made it ''far'' worse, since [[spoiler:not only is she captured while trying to fight against Manfroy to protect Augusty castle [[MamaBear and the three children with her]] (baby!Seliph, Oifey and Shannan), [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/33.html but we get to see]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/34.html see her train of thoughts]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/35.html thoughts when she's being brainwashed]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/36.html brainwashed and how she tearfully attempts to fight back]], [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v03/c018/37.html back, but in the end she can't do anything]].anything.]] Holy ''crap''...



* Also, Oosawa's version of [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/24.html Silvia's]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/25.html challenge]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/26.html to Erinys]]. [[TheWoobie Aw Silvia, you poor baby.]] Made worse because [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/27.html Erinys]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/28.html later cries]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/29.html in Annand's arms too.]]

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* Also, Oosawa's version of [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/24.html Silvia's]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/25.html challenge]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/26.html Silvia's challenge to Erinys]].Erinys. [[TheWoobie Aw Silvia, you poor baby.]] Made worse because [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/27.html Erinys]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/28.html because Erinys later cries]] [[http://www.mangafox.com/manga/fire_emblem_seisen_no_keifu/v05/c031/29.html cries in Annand's arms too.]]
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* Despite being LighterAndSofter, the Nuts Fujimori manga has a surprising tear jerker in the last chapter. Sigurd meets with his father and receives the Tyrfing Sword. He looks into the sword's reflection and sees [[spoiler:the future Seliph, Oifey and Shanan]]. Sigurd gestures for Oifey to bring Seliph to him so Vylon can see his grandson. [[spoiler:It ends up being the last thing Vylon sees, and Sigurd ''weeps'' as he holds his dead father in his arms.]] And the very last scene? [[spoiler: It's about Sigurd recalling his, Eldigan and Quan's promise to grow strong and be friends forever.]]

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* Despite being LighterAndSofter, the Nuts Fujimori manga has a surprising tear jerker in the last chapter. Sigurd meets with his father and receives the Tyrfing Sword. He looks into the sword's reflection and sees [[spoiler:the future Seliph, Oifey and Shanan]]. Sigurd gestures for Oifey to bring Seliph to him so Vylon Byron can see his grandson. [[spoiler:It ends up being the last thing Vylon sees, Byron sees before he dies, and Sigurd ''weeps'' as he holds his dead father in his arms.]] And the very last scene? [[spoiler: It's about Sigurd recalling his, Eldigan and Quan's promise to grow strong and be friends forever.]]
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* If Oifey is alive at the end of the game, he and Seliph will have a conversation. Seliph thanks him for being his father figure, and Oifey, reminishing his strong bond with Sigurd, breaks down and cries in front of his Lord's son.

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* If Oifey is alive at At the end of the game, he and Seliph will have a conversation. conversation with the characters that are alive. If Oifey is alive, Seliph thanks him for being his father figure, and Oifey, as he was an infant when his father got assassinated. Oifey's reaction in front of his Lord's son? While reminishing his strong bond with Sigurd, he breaks down down, ashamed for not doing anything to prevent his death and not being with him in his last moments, and cries in front of his Lord's son.Seliph.

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