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* Gilderoy Lockhart from ''HarryPotter''. Lockhart is a SmallNameBigEgo FakeUltimateHero who makes the mistake of thinking Harry is as self-centered as he is. He thus gives Harry advice on how to keep his celebrity going, ignoring any insistence from Harry that he doesn't want more attention. It seems that Lockhart [[EvilCannotComprehendGood simply can't imagine that anyone who has fame wouldn't want more]].

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* Gilderoy Lockhart from ''HarryPotter''.''Literature/HarryPotter''. Lockhart is a SmallNameBigEgo FakeUltimateHero who makes the mistake of thinking Harry is as self-centered as he is. He thus gives Harry advice on how to keep his celebrity going, ignoring any insistence from Harry that he doesn't want more attention. It seems that Lockhart [[EvilCannotComprehendGood simply can't imagine that anyone who has fame wouldn't want more]].



* The eponymous character in ''ThePrimeOfMissJeanBrodie''. She urges one of her "set" into an affair because she (the girl) is beautiful, berates the most intelligent of the girls as being too prosaic, and -- an ardent fan of the fascist Franco -- romanticizes another's brother's involvement in the Spanish Civil War. [[spoiler: Influenced by Brodie's fiery speeches, the girl runs away to join her brother, and is killed. And since the brother was fighting for the government, not Franco, the girl was ''heading for the wrong side'' when she died.]] Keep this woman away from impressionable youth!

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* The eponymous title character in ''ThePrimeOfMissJeanBrodie''.''Literature/ThePrimeOfMissJeanBrodie''. She urges one of her "set" into an affair because she (the girl) is beautiful, berates the most intelligent of the girls as being too prosaic, and -- an ardent fan of the fascist Franco -- romanticizes another's brother's involvement in the Spanish Civil War. [[spoiler: Influenced by Brodie's fiery speeches, the girl runs away to join her brother, and is killed. And since the brother was fighting for the government, not Franco, the girl was ''heading for the wrong side'' when she died.]] Keep this woman away from impressionable youth!
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* Gilderoy Lockhart from ''HarryPotter''.

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* Gilderoy Lockhart from ''HarryPotter''. Lockhart is a SmallNameBigEgo FakeUltimateHero who makes the mistake of thinking Harry is as self-centered as he is. He thus gives Harry advice on how to keep his celebrity going, ignoring any insistence from Harry that he doesn't want more attention. It seems that Lockhart [[EvilCannotComprehendGood simply can't imagine that anyone who has fame wouldn't want more]].



* The eponymous character in ThePrimeOfMissJeanBrodie. She urges one of her "set" into an affair because she (the girl) is beautiful, berates the most intelligent of the girls as being too prosaic, and -- an ardent fan of the fascist Franco -- romanticizes another's brother's involvement in the Spanish Civil War. [[spoiler: Influenced by Brodie's fiery speeches, the girl runs away to join her brother, and is killed. And since the brother was fighting for the government, not Franco, the girl was ''heading for the wrong side'' when she died.]] Keep this woman away from impressionable youth!

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* The eponymous character in ThePrimeOfMissJeanBrodie.''ThePrimeOfMissJeanBrodie''. She urges one of her "set" into an affair because she (the girl) is beautiful, berates the most intelligent of the girls as being too prosaic, and -- an ardent fan of the fascist Franco -- romanticizes another's brother's involvement in the Spanish Civil War. [[spoiler: Influenced by Brodie's fiery speeches, the girl runs away to join her brother, and is killed. And since the brother was fighting for the government, not Franco, the girl was ''heading for the wrong side'' when she died.]] Keep this woman away from impressionable youth!
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** To be fair, in a spinoff re-telling of Destiny, narrated by Athrun in his point of view, they dig deeper into his relationship with Shinn as the mentor, showing they had more respect for each deep down than the tv show depicted.
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* HowToTrainYourDragon played this trope hilariously straight with the well-intentioned but verbally awkward Gobber.

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* HowToTrainYourDragon ''WesternAnimation/HowToTrainYourDragon'' played this trope hilariously straight with the well-intentioned but verbally awkward Gobber.
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* Loren's friend Trish in ''ThisMeansWar''.

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* Loren's friend Trish in ''ThisMeansWar''.''Film/ThisMeansWar''.
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* Loren's friend Trish in ''ThisMeansWar''.
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* Pierce on ''{{Community}}''. Even though this is obvious pretty much from the beginning, the other characters still listen to him from time to time, largely because his lackluster knowledge is still the only knowledge about a topic anyone has and because he [[DumbassHasAPoint very occasionally has a good point.]]

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* Pierce on ''{{Community}}''.''Series/{{Community}}''. Even though this is obvious pretty much from the beginning, the other characters still listen to him from time to time, largely because his lackluster knowledge is still the only knowledge about a topic anyone has and because he [[DumbassHasAPoint very occasionally has a good point.]]
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* Athrun Zala can be seen as a more serious and tragic version of this in ''GundamSEEDDestiny''. The intent was probably to have him be the OlderAndWiser mentor to new protagonist Shinn, as happened with Char and Kamille in ''ZetaGundam''. The only problem is Athrun is still working on his own issues, so most of his interaction with Shinn consists of punching him and calling him an idiot, which only makes Shinn's anger issues and hatred of authority even worse.

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* Athrun Zala can be seen as a more serious and tragic version of this in ''GundamSEEDDestiny''. The intent was probably to have him be the OlderAndWiser mentor to new protagonist Shinn, as happened with Char and Kamille in ''ZetaGundam''. The only problem is Athrun is still working on his own issues, issues (which are [[AesopAmnesia suspiciously similar to the issues he'd worked through in the previous series]]), so most of his interaction with Shinn consists of punching him and calling him an idiot, which only makes Shinn's anger issues and hatred of authority even worse.
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* In ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways. [[spoiler: They end up defying him, and it turns out to be 100% BS!]]

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* In ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways. ways (like a vomit-covered squirrel changing the outcome of a pro-football game). [[spoiler: They end up defying him, and it turns out to be 100% BS!]]largely BS as one character stays in the past to redo his life and makes his life infinitely better by the the present day]]

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* Tanna of ''Webcomic/EarsForElves'' wants to teach things to younger Elon, but he [[http://www.earsforelves.com/archives/422 would rather learn]] from a "real" warrior.
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The most common subversion of TheObiWan. Overlaps with KnowNothingKnowItAll. Oftentimes invokes an IceCreamKoan. Compare MissionControlIsOffItsMeds.

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The most common subversion of TheObiWan. Overlaps with KnowNothingKnowItAll.KnowNothingKnowItAll and TheBlindLeadingTheBlind. Oftentimes invokes an IceCreamKoan. Compare MissionControlIsOffItsMeds.
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* Athrun Zala can be seen as a more serious and tragic version of this in ''GundamSEEDDestiny''. The intent was probably to have him be the OlderAndWiser mentor to new protagonist Shinn, as happened with Char and Kamille in ''ZetaGundam''. The only problem is Athrun is still working on his own issues, so most of his interaction with Shinn consists of punching him and calling him an idiot, which only makes Shinn's anger issues and hatred of authority even worse.
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* ''[[That70sShow That '70s Show]]'': [[MagnificentBastard Hyde]] has made a sport out of giving his friends faulty advice for the amusement of seeing them make jackasses of themselves. His favorite target is Kelso (who still listens because he's [[RalphWiggum so irremediably stupid]],) though he enjoys tormenting [[FunnyForeigner Fez]] almost as much.

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* ''[[That70sShow That '70s Show]]'': [[MagnificentBastard Hyde]] has made a sport out of giving his friends faulty advice for the amusement of seeing them make jackasses of themselves. His favorite target is Kelso (who still listens because he's [[RalphWiggum [[TheDitz so irremediably stupid]],) though he enjoys tormenting [[FunnyForeigner Fez]] almost as much.
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* Dad on ''TheBrakShow.'' Brak is the only character who takes his advice seriously at all.

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* Dad on ''TheBrakShow.''WesternAnimation/TheBrakShow.'' Brak is the only character who takes his advice seriously at all.



* Zapp Brannigan from ''{{Futurama}}'', especially when giving Kif love advice.

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* Zapp Brannigan from ''{{Futurama}}'', ''WesternAnimation/{{Futurama}}'', especially when giving Kif love advice.
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* Peter Griffin from ''FamilyGuy''.
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* Owl from ''{{Bambi}}''. The advice he gives Bambi and his friends is terrible advice to give young animals. Fortunately nature takes over and they ignore his advice.

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* Owl from ''{{Bambi}}''.''Disney/{{Bambi}}''. The advice he gives Bambi and his friends is terrible advice to give young animals. Fortunately nature takes over and they ignore his advice.
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* In ''HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways. [[spoiler: They end up defying him, and it turns out to be 100% BS!]]

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* In ''HotTubTimeMachine'', ''Film/HotTubTimeMachine'', the mysterious repairman delivers lots of [[IceCreamKoan cryptic and ominous-sounding warning]], from which the gang infers that doing anything differently will screw up the timeline in unpredictable ways. [[spoiler: They end up defying him, and it turns out to be 100% BS!]]
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* Zapp Brannigan from ''{{Futurama}}'', especially when giving Kif love advice.
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The most common subversion of TheObiWan. Overlaps with KnowNothingKnowItAll. Oftentimes invokes an IceCreamKoan.

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The most common subversion of TheObiWan. Overlaps with KnowNothingKnowItAll. Oftentimes invokes an IceCreamKoan. Compare MissionControlIsOffItsMeds.
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* Pierce on ''{{Community}}''. Even though this is obvious pretty much from the beginning, the other characters still listen to him from time to time, largely because his lackluster knowledge is still the only knowledge about a topic anyone has.

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* Pierce on ''{{Community}}''. Even though this is obvious pretty much from the beginning, the other characters still listen to him from time to time, largely because his lackluster knowledge is still the only knowledge about a topic anyone has.has and because he [[DumbassHasAPoint very occasionally has a good point.]]
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* The eponymous character in ThePrimeOfMissJeanBrodie. She urges one of her "set" into an affair because she (the girl) is beautiful, berates the most intelligent of the girls as being too prosaic, and -- an ardent fan of the fascist Franco -- romanticizes another's brother's involvement in the Spanish Civil War. [[spoiler: Influenced by Brodie's fiery speeches, the girl runs away to join her brother, and is killed. And since the brother was fighting for the government, not Franco, the girl was ''heading for the wrong side'' when she died.]] Keep this woman away from impressionable youth!
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* ''SchoolRumble'' has a scene in which Hanai is being trained by an old man, only for the old man to be escorted away by his grandaughter, who tells him "Grandpa! You know you can't go out alone!"

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** Later, Percy Weasley to Ron.




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* Probably every single piece of advice given on ''StrangersWithCandy'' was bad, [[CrossesTheLineTwice often spectacularly so]], but art teacher Geoffrey Jellineck is the character specifically representing people like this: he desperately wants to be a PsychologistTeacher and is always trying to get his students to confide in him, but he's transparently a clueless narcissist and none of them like him.
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* [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Brock]] gives romance advice to several other characters, most notably Ash's Totodile in the (first) Johto saga and Dawn's Piplup late in the Sinnoh saga.

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* [[Anime/{{Pokemon}} Brock]] gives romance advice to several other characters, most notably Ash's Totodile in the (first) Johto saga saga, Corphish (also Ash's) in the Hoenn saga, and Dawn's Piplup late in the Sinnoh saga.
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* Polonius from {{Hamlet}}: half his advice to his son contradicts the other half, and when you look at his actions toward the royal family it's clear he's just trying to ingratiate himself at Hamlet's expense.
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* HowTotrainyourdragon played this trope hilariously straight with the well-intentioned but verbally awkward Gobber.

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* HowTotrainyourdragon HowToTrainYourDragon played this trope hilariously straight with the well-intentioned but verbally awkward Gobber.
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* {{Film: How Totrainyourdragon}} played this trope hilariously straight with the well-intentioned but verbally awkward Gobber.

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* {{Film: How Totrainyourdragon}} HowTotrainyourdragon played this trope hilariously straight with the well-intentioned but verbally awkward Gobber.
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