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* Stories involving a MegaCorp, a commercial entity so massive that it's likely to be the sole corporation of the setting (without needing to be an EvilInc), crushing down any competitions with impunity and eliminating the more 'chaotic' variety, creating a monopoly of profit, which is read as being utterly {{greed}}y, but also doing it with various unfair lawful maneuvers. Their profits are then used to further create [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good publicity]] that they look like this caring, benevolent company while in truth, they still needlessly drain the money of the normal people, crushing the poor while others who are gullible see this mostly as a manner of 'convenience' (mostly the rich). While it's said that competition begets improvement, for this MegaCorp, it's all hogwash. They don't need competition and will stamp it out before 'they become a threat', not caring if their products stagnate due to lack of desire of improvement from competitions: As long as it's orderly and everything is within their control, they should only be the sole corporate for everyone. Their insides are full of CorruptCorporateExecutive, while the HonestCorporateExecutive are helplessly stomped down into being unable to do anything (or eventually corrupted). In a sense, it's a financial version of TheEmpire above, bringing a bad, monotony order in the world of commerce and finance (they also either go hand-in-hand with the Empire or worse: the Empire can be under their thumbs instead). And thus our heroes would be those who value variety and 'small businesses' and naturally 'proper business ethics', trying to oppose these cheaters who abuse order in the name of self-profit.

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* Stories involving a MegaCorp, a commercial entity so massive that it's likely to be the sole corporation of the setting (without needing to be an EvilInc), crushing down any competitions with impunity and eliminating the more 'chaotic' variety, creating a monopoly of profit, which is read as being utterly {{greed}}y, but also doing it with various unfair lawful maneuvers. Their profits are then used to further create [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good publicity]] that they look like this caring, benevolent company while in truth, they still needlessly drain the money of the normal people, crushing the poor while others who are gullible see this mostly as a manner of 'convenience' (mostly the rich). While it's said that competition begets improvement, for this MegaCorp, it's all hogwash. They don't need competition and will stamp it out before 'they become a threat', not caring if their products stagnate due to lack of desire of improvement from competitions: As long as it's orderly and everything is within their control, they should only be the sole only corporate for everyone. Their insides are full of CorruptCorporateExecutive, while the HonestCorporateExecutive are helplessly stomped down into being unable to do anything (or eventually corrupted). In a sense, it's a financial version of TheEmpire above, bringing a bad, monotony order in the world of commerce and finance (they also either go hand-in-hand with the Empire or worse: the Empire can be under their thumbs instead). And thus our heroes would be those who value variety and 'small businesses' and naturally 'proper business ethics', trying to oppose these cheaters who abuse order in the name of self-profit.
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* Stories involving a MegaCorp, a commercial entity so massive that it's likely to be the sole corporation of the setting (without needing to be an EvilInc), crushing down any competitions with impunity and eliminating the more 'chaotic' variety, creating a monopoly of profit, which is read as being utterly {{greed}}y, but also doing it with various unfair lawful maneuvers. Their profits are then used to further create [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good publicity]] that they look like this caring, benevolent company while in truth, they still needlessly drain the money of the normal people, crushing the poor while others who are gullible see this mostly as a manner of 'convenience' (mostly the rich). Their insides are full of CorruptCorporateExecutive, while the HonestCorporateExecutive are helplessly stomped down into being unable to do anything (or eventually corrupted). In a sense, it's a financial version of TheEmpire above, bringing a bad, monotony order in the world of commerce and finance (they also either go hand-in-hand with the Empire or worse: the Empire can be under their thumbs instead). And thus our heroes would be those who value variety and 'small businesses' and naturally 'proper business ethics', trying to oppose these cheaters who abuse order in the name of self-profit.

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* Stories involving a MegaCorp, a commercial entity so massive that it's likely to be the sole corporation of the setting (without needing to be an EvilInc), crushing down any competitions with impunity and eliminating the more 'chaotic' variety, creating a monopoly of profit, which is read as being utterly {{greed}}y, but also doing it with various unfair lawful maneuvers. Their profits are then used to further create [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good publicity]] that they look like this caring, benevolent company while in truth, they still needlessly drain the money of the normal people, crushing the poor while others who are gullible see this mostly as a manner of 'convenience' (mostly the rich). While it's said that competition begets improvement, for this MegaCorp, it's all hogwash. They don't need competition and will stamp it out before 'they become a threat', not caring if their products stagnate due to lack of desire of improvement from competitions: As long as it's orderly and everything is within their control, they should only be the sole corporate for everyone. Their insides are full of CorruptCorporateExecutive, while the HonestCorporateExecutive are helplessly stomped down into being unable to do anything (or eventually corrupted). In a sense, it's a financial version of TheEmpire above, bringing a bad, monotony order in the world of commerce and finance (they also either go hand-in-hand with the Empire or worse: the Empire can be under their thumbs instead). And thus our heroes would be those who value variety and 'small businesses' and naturally 'proper business ethics', trying to oppose these cheaters who abuse order in the name of self-profit.
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* ''Series/StarTrekDeepSpaceNine'' has the Dominion, an interstellar [[TheEmpire empire]] whose [[GodEmperor Founders]] explicitly describe their mission as "imposing order on a chaotic universe". This is at least partly a principled-sounding gloss on the Founders' deep-seated paranoia and xenophobia, which drives them to seek absolute power to ensure their own safety.
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In some cases, the fight may not be against the villainous Order, but a character may get some development by being from or going to an area rules by such means: everything may seem idyllic, but people are treated like mindless drones, freedom is considered a bad thing and curbed down, and the hero needed to get out of there or found a new world perspective to change/ground his personal morals by seeing the society. When the hero is fighting Order, he will pretty much never be wrong -- in the most extreme circumstances an individual's rights are always more important than long-term world-saving goals, and after he's saved the day the hero will discover that this created an even bigger save that freed the galaxy, rather than screwing it over. This doesn't count in time travel plots, though, where [[NiceJobBreakingItHero they are almost guaranteed to make a mistake and ruin something]] by trying to free people.

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In some cases, the fight may not be against the villainous Order, but a character may get some development by being from or going to an area rules ruled by such means: everything may seem idyllic, but people are treated like mindless drones, freedom is considered a bad thing and curbed down, and the hero needed to get out of there or found a new world perspective to change/ground his personal morals by seeing the society. When the hero is fighting Order, he will pretty much never be wrong -- in the most extreme circumstances an individual's rights are always more important than long-term world-saving goals, and after he's saved the day the hero will discover that this created an even bigger save that freed the galaxy, rather than screwing it over. This doesn't count in time travel plots, though, where [[NiceJobBreakingItHero they are almost guaranteed to make a mistake and ruin something]] by trying to free people.
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* In ''ComicBook/TransformersShatteredGlass'', the (recently-created, it's a long story) MirrorUniverse version of [[GodIsGood Primus]] is a tyrannical deity that seeks to eradicate whatever doesn't fit within his vision of universal order.
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*** The third "Cosmos in the Lostbelt" storyline deals with an alternate timeline in which Qin Shi Huang managed to achieve immortality and conquered the world, thus creating a world that is completely stable at the cost of keeping the populaces docile by [[IgnoranceIsBliss outlawing all forms of knowledge he deems "Confucian"]] as well as culling them before they reach old age to keep them from suffering. This has the effect of making a world where human potential has been completely crippled, thus causing it to be a doomed timeline that was "pruned" from "Proper Human History".

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*** The third "Cosmos in the Lostbelt" storyline deals with an alternate timeline in which Qin Shi Huang managed to achieve immortality and conquered the world, thus creating a world that is completely stable at the cost of keeping the populaces docile by [[IgnoranceIsBliss outlawing all forms of knowledge he deems "Confucian"]] "Confucian" as well as culling them before they reach old age to keep them from suffering. This has the effect of making a world where human potential has been completely crippled, thus causing it to be a doomed timeline that was "pruned" from "Proper Human History".

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Compare LightIsNotGood, GodIsEvil, SatanIsGood, LibertyOverProsperity, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. Contrast PassionIsEvil, usually considered as what the bringers of Order feared would happen if they don't spread their order to everyone. See also HobbesWasRight, where the authoritarian bringers of Order, no matter how bad, [[TheExtremistWasRight was necessary]] to prevent even greater damage that unchecked freedom or TheEvilsOfFreeWill would've (and actually had) caused.

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Compare LightIsNotGood, GodIsEvil, SatanIsGood, LibertyOverProsperity, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. Contrast PassionIsEvil, usually considered as what the bringers of Order feared would happen if they don't spread their order to everyone. See also

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HobbesWasRight, where the authoritarian bringers of Order, no matter how bad, [[TheExtremistWasRight was necessary]] to prevent even greater damage that unchecked freedom or TheEvilsOfFreeWill would've (and actually had) caused.caused and thus the order-bringers truly believe that it has been proven that 'free will', 'freedom' or 'human rights' could be used as just sweet words an shield to force one (or many)'s opinions which ended up being proven 'usually ending with disasters' and thus they're not going to fall for those moral-based lies or convincing again, [[IDidWhatIHadToDo the authoritive order has to be implemented even if they'll look like soul-crushing evil bastards in the end.]]
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* Stories involving a MegaCorp, a commercial entity so massive that it's likely to be the sole corporation of the setting (without needing to be an EvilInc), crushing down any competitions with impunity and eliminating the more 'chaotic' variety, creating a monopoly of profit, which is read as being utterly {{greed}}y, but also doing it with various unfair lawful maneuvers. Their profits are then used to further create [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good publicity]] that they look like this caring, benevolent company while in truth, they still needlessly drain the money of the normal people, crushing the poor while others who are gullible see this mostly as a manner of 'convenience' (mostly the rich). Their insides are full of CorruptCorporateExecutive, while the HonestCorporateExecutive are helplessly stomped down into being unable to do anything. In a sense, it's a financial version of TheEmpire above, bringing a bad, monotony order in the world of commerce and finance (they also either go hand-in-hand with the Empire or worse: the Empire can be under their thumbs instead). And thus our heroes would be those who value variety and 'small businesses' and naturally 'proper business ethics', trying to oppose these cheaters who abuse order in the name of self-profit.

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* Stories involving a MegaCorp, a commercial entity so massive that it's likely to be the sole corporation of the setting (without needing to be an EvilInc), crushing down any competitions with impunity and eliminating the more 'chaotic' variety, creating a monopoly of profit, which is read as being utterly {{greed}}y, but also doing it with various unfair lawful maneuvers. Their profits are then used to further create [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good publicity]] that they look like this caring, benevolent company while in truth, they still needlessly drain the money of the normal people, crushing the poor while others who are gullible see this mostly as a manner of 'convenience' (mostly the rich). Their insides are full of CorruptCorporateExecutive, while the HonestCorporateExecutive are helplessly stomped down into being unable to do anything.anything (or eventually corrupted). In a sense, it's a financial version of TheEmpire above, bringing a bad, monotony order in the world of commerce and finance (they also either go hand-in-hand with the Empire or worse: the Empire can be under their thumbs instead). And thus our heroes would be those who value variety and 'small businesses' and naturally 'proper business ethics', trying to oppose these cheaters who abuse order in the name of self-profit.
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*** The sixth Lostbelt is an unique case of this trope being [[spoiler:PlayedWith or inverted.]] When the heroes arrive, they find the idyllic land of [[TheFairFolks Fae]] to be under the extreme tyranny of Lostbelt Morgan le Fae where aside of some sadistic mistakes here and there, the Fae are fighting for their freedom to do their fun and purposes instead of living under the thumb of Morgan, not to mention the heroes needed something from Morgan and needed her to be deposed for that. But... [[spoiler:The Fae, in their own nature, is very hell bent to keep their freedom of their fun and purposes, in which they also see 'flipping from being fun-loving to sadistic freaks' as something they want to keep and ''they absolutely don't like being ordered around'', having screwed up the world and a benevolent God several times in the past for 'telling them what to do'. The world has gone through several time loops where Morgan tried to save them, but she got backstabbed by them every time in the most cruel fashion possible while the Fae think that her sight of despair is something fun. Eventually Morgan snapped and [[HobbesWasRight decided to be a cruel, authoritarian dictator, actually bringing a semblance of order in the world]] (and making the Fae pay for their disproportionate misdeeds), but even that was eventually undone again and she was killed in the most humiliating and brutal fashion possible like a despot being dethroned... and then the Fae indulged in their unrestrained, full of freedom, self-destructive nature by doing pointless bloody wars that their world was destroyed by something akin of GaiasVengeance and this history was pruned. Thus, it makes the Order side the LesserOfTwoEvils when compared to the freedom side of the Fae.]]

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*** The sixth Lostbelt is an unique case of this trope being [[spoiler:PlayedWith or inverted.]] When the heroes arrive, they find the idyllic land of [[TheFairFolks [[TheFairFolk Fae]] to be under the extreme tyranny of Lostbelt Morgan le Fae where aside of some sadistic mistakes here and there, the Fae are fighting for their freedom to do their fun and purposes instead of living under the thumb of Morgan, not to mention the heroes needed something from Morgan and needed her to be deposed for that. But... [[spoiler:The Fae, in their own nature, is very hell bent to keep their freedom of their fun and purposes, in which they also see 'flipping from being fun-loving to sadistic freaks' as something they want to keep and ''they absolutely don't like being ordered around'', having screwed up the world and a benevolent God several times in the past for 'telling them what to do'. The world has gone through several time loops where Morgan tried to save them, but she got backstabbed by them every time in the most cruel fashion possible while the Fae think that her sight of despair is something fun. Eventually Morgan snapped and [[HobbesWasRight decided to be a cruel, authoritarian dictator, actually bringing a semblance of order in the world]] (and making the Fae pay for their disproportionate misdeeds), but even that was eventually undone again and she was killed in the most humiliating and brutal fashion possible like a despot being dethroned... and then the Fae indulged in their unrestrained, full of freedom, self-destructive nature by doing pointless bloody wars that their world was destroyed by something akin of GaiasVengeance and this history was pruned. Thus, it makes the Order side the LesserOfTwoEvils when compared to the freedom side of the Fae.]]
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*** The sixth Lostbelt is an unique case of this trope being [[spoiler:PlayedWith or inverted.]] When the heroes arrive, they find the idyllic land of [[TheFairFolks Fae]] to be under the extreme tyranny of Lostbelt Morgan le Fae where aside of some sadistic mistakes here and there, the Fae are fighting for their freedom to do their fun and purposes instead of living under the thumb of Morgan, not to mention the heroes needed something from Morgan and needed her to be deposed for that. But... [[spoiler:The Fae, in their own nature, is very hell bent to keep their freedom of their fun and purposes, in which they also see 'flipping from being fun-loving to sadistic freaks' as something they want to keep and ''they absolutely don't like being ordered around'', having screwed up the world and a benevolent God several times in the past for 'telling them what to do'. The world has gone through several time loops where Morgan tried to save them, but she got backstabbed by them every time in the most cruel fashion possible while the Fae think that her sight of despair is something fun. Eventually Morgan snapped and [[HobbesWasRight decided to be a cruel, authoritarian dictator, actually bringing a semblance of order in the world]] (and making the Fae pay for their disproportionate misdeeds), but even that was eventually undone again and she was killed in the most humiliating and brutal fashion possible like a despot being dethroned... and then the Fae indulged in their unrestrained, full of freedom, self-destructive nature by doing pointless bloody wars that their world was destroyed by something akin of GaiasVengeance and this history was pruned. Thus, it makes the Order side the LesserOfTwoEvils when compared to the freedom side of the Fae.]]
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Compare LightIsNotGood, GodIsEvil, SatanIsGood, LibertyOverProsperity, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. Contrast PassionIsEvil, usually considered as what the bringers of Order feared would happen if they don't spread their order to everyone. See also HobbesWasRight, where the authoritarian bringers of Order, no matter how bad, was necessary to prevent even greater damage that unchecked freedom or TheEvilsOfFreeWill would've (and actually had) caused.

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Compare LightIsNotGood, GodIsEvil, SatanIsGood, LibertyOverProsperity, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. Contrast PassionIsEvil, usually considered as what the bringers of Order feared would happen if they don't spread their order to everyone. See also HobbesWasRight, where the authoritarian bringers of Order, no matter how bad, [[TheExtremistWasRight was necessary necessary]] to prevent even greater damage that unchecked freedom or TheEvilsOfFreeWill would've (and actually had) caused.
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Compare LightIsNotGood, GodIsEvil, SatanIsGood, LibertyOverProsperity, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. Contrast PassionIsEvil, usually considered as what the bringers of Order feared would happen if they don't spread their order to everyone.

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Compare LightIsNotGood, GodIsEvil, SatanIsGood, LibertyOverProsperity, YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters. Contrast PassionIsEvil, usually considered as what the bringers of Order feared would happen if they don't spread their order to everyone. See also HobbesWasRight, where the authoritarian bringers of Order, no matter how bad, was necessary to prevent even greater damage that unchecked freedom or TheEvilsOfFreeWill would've (and actually had) caused.
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* ''WebComic/KillSixBillionDemons'': While evil examples of both order and chaos are abound in the rotting Multiverse, the comic comes down more on this side than the alternative. The current order of the Multiverse, created by the non-aggression pact between the [[BigBadEnsemble Seven]] and the rules set down by TheCreator, are really bad for most of its inhabitants, and the role of TheChosenOne is implied to be to break the current order. The best example of the trope directly is Solomon David, the Demiurge of {{Pride}}, who is both this and LightIsNotGood by being a brutal KnightTemplar GodEmperor who imposes his order on his seventh of the universe, usually by brutally killing anyone who does not fit into his system.
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* Implied and defied in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight''. Dracula claims that [[NotSoDifferent his actions were no different with the actions of the order humans call 'religion']]. However, Richter tells him that [[ShutUpHannibal he's full of crap about it]], because in this verse, the religious order are actually good.

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* Implied and defied in ''VideoGame/CastlevaniaSymphonyOfTheNight''. Dracula claims that [[NotSoDifferent [[NotSoDifferentRemark his actions were no different with the actions of the order humans call 'religion']]. However, Richter tells him that [[ShutUpHannibal he's full of crap about it]], because in this verse, the religious order are actually good.
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* Stories featuring GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood. Mostly due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Occasionally, in GreyAndGrayMorality setting, even in this mindset, [[VillainHasAPoint God may have a point without diminishing His villainy]]: How many times has it been that with free will, [[HumansAreBastards humans]] chose to [[PassionIsEvil indulge their passion and giving in to their inner vices and dark sides instead of doing something good with it?]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]] Ironically, even in all these, [[JesusWasWayCool His son (if He has one) tends to enjoy more positive portrayal, most likely disagreeing with His extremist method and sympathizing with humanity and their free will.]]
* Stories involving a MegaCorp, a commercial entity so massive that it's likely to be the sole corporation of the setting (without needing to be an EvilInc), crushing down any competitions with impunity and eliminating the more 'chaotic' variety, creating a monopoly of profit, which is read as being utterly {{Greed}}y, but also doing it with various unfair lawful maneuvers. Their profits are then used to further create [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good publicity]] that they look like this caring, benevolent company while in truth, they still needlessly drain the money of the normal people, crushing the poor while others who are gullible see this mostly as a manner of 'convenience' (mostly the rich). Their insides are full of CorruptCorporateExecutive, while the HonestCorporateExecutive are helplessly stomped down into being unable to do anything. In a sense, it's a financial version of TheEmpire above, bringing a bad, monotony order in the world of commerce and finance (they also either go hand-in-hand with the Empire or worse: the Empire can be under their thumbs instead). And thus our heroes would be those who value variety and 'small businesses' and naturally 'proper business ethics', trying to oppose these cheaters who abuse order in the name of self-profit.

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* Stories featuring GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood. Mostly GodIsEvil, mostly due to religion religious dogma -- particularly those of Abrahamic ones faiths such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism authoritarianism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys followers will be depicted as tyrannical and inflexible {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a are obsessed with "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, purity]]," labelling [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position disobedience]], {{passion|IsEvil}}, and {{individuality|IsIllegal}} as sins that can only be wiped out through the ruler establishment of a WorldOfSilence at best, or a [[RestartTheWorld factory reset]] of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall universe at worst. The heroes may thus RageAgainstTheHeavens in stories like this.]] Occasionally, in GreyAndGrayMorality setting, even in order to make sure this mindset, [[VillainHasAPoint God may have a point without diminishing His villainy]]: How many times has it been that doesn't happen, with free will, [[HumansAreBastards humans]] chose to [[PassionIsEvil indulge their passion and giving in to their inner vices and dark sides instead of doing something good with it?]] Meanwhile, [[{{Satan}} The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will Downstairs]] often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]] Ironically, even in all these, [[JesusWasWayCool His son (if He has one) tends to enjoy more positive portrayal, most likely disagreeing with His extremist method and sympathizing with humanity and their free will.]]
setting's [[SatanIsGood ultimate force]] of ChaoticGood.
* Stories involving a MegaCorp, a commercial entity so massive that it's likely to be the sole corporation of the setting (without needing to be an EvilInc), crushing down any competitions with impunity and eliminating the more 'chaotic' variety, creating a monopoly of profit, which is read as being utterly {{Greed}}y, {{greed}}y, but also doing it with various unfair lawful maneuvers. Their profits are then used to further create [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good publicity]] that they look like this caring, benevolent company while in truth, they still needlessly drain the money of the normal people, crushing the poor while others who are gullible see this mostly as a manner of 'convenience' (mostly the rich). Their insides are full of CorruptCorporateExecutive, while the HonestCorporateExecutive are helplessly stomped down into being unable to do anything. In a sense, it's a financial version of TheEmpire above, bringing a bad, monotony order in the world of commerce and finance (they also either go hand-in-hand with the Empire or worse: the Empire can be under their thumbs instead). And thus our heroes would be those who value variety and 'small businesses' and naturally 'proper business ethics', trying to oppose these cheaters who abuse order in the name of self-profit.
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*** The third "Cosmos in the Lostbelt" storyline deals with an alternate timeline in which Qin Shi Huang managed to achieve immortality and conquered the world, thus creating a world that is completely stable at the cost of keeping the populaces docile by [[IgnoranceIsBliss outlawing all forms of knowledge he deems "Confucian"]] as well as culling them before they reach old age to keep them from suffering. This has the effect of making a world where human potential has been completely crippled, thus causing it to be a doomed timeline that was "pruned" from "Proper Human History".

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The primary example of Order Is Not Good is TheEmpire, whose creed is often 'Bringing Order To [insert region here]'. The characters most likely to become the hero will often be {{Lovable Rogue}}s, {{Gentleman Thie|f}}ves, or JustLikeRobinHood. Though not required to be Chaotic, they often will be, with the RebelLeader probably being the BigGood, and LaResistance only being shown positively. Conflicts like this tend to have [[SlidingScaleOfLibertarianismAndAuthoritarianism heroes heavily Libertarian and villains being heavily Authoritarian]].

Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Occasionally, in GreyAndGrayMorality setting, even in this mindset, [[VillainHasAPoint God may have a point without diminishing His villainy]]: How many times has it been that with free will, [[HumansAreBastards humans]] chose to [[PassionIsEvil indulge their passion and giving in to their inner vices and dark sides instead of doing something good with it?]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]] Ironically, even in all these, [[JesusWasWayCool His son (if He has one) tends to enjoy more positive portrayal, most likely disagreeing with His extremist method and sympathizing with humanity and their free will.]]

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The primary example There are several kind of common examples ripes to showcase just how bad Order Is Not Good is could be when used wrong:

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TheEmpire, whose creed is often 'Bringing Order To [insert region here]'. The characters most likely to become the hero will often be {{Lovable Rogue}}s, {{Gentleman Thie|f}}ves, or JustLikeRobinHood. Though not required to be Chaotic, they often will be, with the RebelLeader probably being the BigGood, and LaResistance only being shown positively. Conflicts like this tend to have [[SlidingScaleOfLibertarianismAndAuthoritarianism heroes heavily Libertarian and villains being heavily Authoritarian]].

Order Is Not Good also tends
Authoritarian]]. Likely to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as hand in hand if there's an evil, unethical MegaCorp (see below for more details).
* Stories featuring
GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, SatanIsGood. Mostly due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Occasionally, in GreyAndGrayMorality setting, even in this mindset, [[VillainHasAPoint God may have a point without diminishing His villainy]]: How many times has it been that with free will, [[HumansAreBastards humans]] chose to [[PassionIsEvil indulge their passion and giving in to their inner vices and dark sides instead of doing something good with it?]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]] Ironically, even in all these, [[JesusWasWayCool His son (if He has one) tends to enjoy more positive portrayal, most likely disagreeing with His extremist method and sympathizing with humanity and their free will.]]
* Stories involving a MegaCorp, a commercial entity so massive that it's likely to be the sole corporation of the setting (without needing to be an EvilInc), crushing down any competitions with impunity and eliminating the more 'chaotic' variety, creating a monopoly of profit, which is read as being utterly {{Greed}}y, but also doing it with various unfair lawful maneuvers. Their profits are then used to further create [[VillainWithGoodPublicity good publicity]] that they look like this caring, benevolent company while in truth, they still needlessly drain the money of the normal people, crushing the poor while others who are gullible see this mostly as a manner of 'convenience' (mostly the rich). Their insides are full of CorruptCorporateExecutive, while the HonestCorporateExecutive are helplessly stomped down into being unable to do anything. In a sense, it's a financial version of TheEmpire above, bringing a bad, monotony order in the world of commerce and finance (they also either go hand-in-hand with the Empire or worse: the Empire can be under their thumbs instead). And thus our heroes would be those who value variety and 'small businesses' and naturally 'proper business ethics', trying to oppose these cheaters who abuse order in the name of self-profit.
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]] Ironically, even in all these, [[JesusWasWayCool His son (if He has one) tends to enjoy more positive portrayal, most likely disagreeing with His extremist method and sympathizing with humanity and their free will.]]

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Occasionally, in GreyAndGrayMorality setting, even in this mindset, [[VillainHasAPoint God may have a point without diminishing His villainy]]: How many times has it been that with free will, [[HumansAreBastards humans]] chose to [[PassionIsEvil indulge their passion and giving in to their inner vices and dark sides instead of doing something good with it?]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]] Ironically, even in all these, [[JesusWasWayCool His son (if He has one) tends to enjoy more positive portrayal, most likely disagreeing with His extremist method and sympathizing with humanity and their free will.]]
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]] Ironically, even in all these, [[JesusWasWayCool His son (if He has one) tends to enjoy more positive portrayal, most likely disagreeing with his extremist method and sympathizing with humanity.]]

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]] Ironically, even in all these, [[JesusWasWayCool His son (if He has one) tends to enjoy more positive portrayal, most likely disagreeing with his His extremist method and sympathizing with humanity.humanity and their free will.]]
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]]

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]] Ironically, even in all these, [[JesusWasWayCool His son (if He has one) tends to enjoy more positive portrayal, most likely disagreeing with his extremist method and sympathizing with humanity.]]
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]]

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism authoritarianism, obsessive conservatism and obssessive conservatism.monotheoism (thus leading to the belief that One God is all that's needed for the best orderly world, more Gods means more chaos). The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]]
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.
beaten and then subjected to {{Demonization}} to [[WrittenByTheWinners make God, the obvious victor, look good.]]
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin -- and by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]]. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin -- and sin. (And by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]]. general]].) There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin (i.e. [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]]). There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of sin (i.e. -- and by "sin" we mean [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]]).general]]. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will.sin (i.e. [[IndividualityIsIllegal individuality in general]]). There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssession with conformity. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being closely associated with authoritarianism and obssession with conformity.obssessive conservatism. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being seen as closely associated with authoritarianism and [[ObsessivelyNormal obsession with "normality"]]. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity -- being seen as closely associated with authoritarianism and [[ObsessivelyNormal obsession obssession with "normality"]].conformity. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion, particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity, being seen as closely associated with authoritarianism and [[ObsessivelyNormal obsession with "normality"]]. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, due to religion, religion -- particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity, Christianity -- being seen as closely associated with authoritarianism and [[ObsessivelyNormal obsession with "normality"]]. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best, and at worst they will be depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.
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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with GodIsEvil, SatanIsGood, LightIsNotGood, and DarkIsNotEvil. God, angels, light, and religion in general being widely associated with order in the public consciousness, The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his followers will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best when this trope is in play. At worst, they will be presented as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s or uptight {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.

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Order Is Not Good also tends to go hand-in-hand with GodIsEvil, tropes such as GodIsEvil and SatanIsGood, LightIsNotGood, and DarkIsNotEvil. God, angels, light, and religion in general due to religion, particularly Abrahamic ones such as Christianity, being widely seen as closely associated with order in the public consciousness, authoritarianism and [[ObsessivelyNormal obsession with "normality"]]. The Guy Upstairs (or his [[CrystalDragonJesus nearest equivalent]]) and his followers lackeys will be {{Indubitably Uninteresting Individual}}s at best when this trope is in play. At worst, best, and at worst they will be presented depicted as tyrannical {{Knight Templar}}s or uptight and {{Control Freak}}s who won't tolerate anything less than a "[[PureIsNotGood pure]]" world completely under their dominion and devoid of free will. There is a bit of an {{Irony}} here that God is usually portrayed as the ones who let humans have their own free will in the first place, but in stories like this, [[TheEvilsOfFreeWill He might have second thoughts on granting humans free will]] after seeing how much "evil" -- in His eyes -- humans could do with it (or after seeing its potential to threaten His position as the ruler of the universe), [[NiceJobFixingItVillain which would often be a main source of His downfall in stories like this.]] Meanwhile, The Guy Downstairs (or a SatanicArchetype) will often be presented as a [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVillified benevolent]] force of ChaoticGood going out of his way to tear down the system, liberate the human race, and inject some much-needed fun into the world. This stems from the popular portrayal of Satan as having staged a failed rebellion against God, making him look more like the freedom-fighting DoomedMoralVictor despite being beaten.
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* In ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'', Sonic and his allies from Knothole Village battle the {{Killer Robot}}s and BrainwashedAndCrazy [[UnwillingRoboticisation roboticized citizens]] controlled by Doctor Ivo Robotnik. While this started as a ''coup d'etat'' against the rightful monarchy, Robotnik now seeks to [[AGodAmI convert all sentient creatures]] of Mobius into his personal servant corps.

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* In ''ComicBook/SonicTheHedgehogArchieComics'', Sonic and his allies from Knothole Village battle the {{Killer Robot}}s and BrainwashedAndCrazy [[UnwillingRoboticisation roboticized citizens]] controlled by Doctor Ivo Robotnik. While this started as a ''coup d'etat'' against the rightful monarchy, Robotnik now seeks to [[AGodAmI convert all sentient creatures]] creatures of Mobius into his personal servant corps.

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