History Main / FeminineWomenCanCook

* A running gag in ''WesternAnimation/TheSimspsons'' is that Marge buys into this a lot, but is in fact a pretty bland cook. She claims her secret ingredient is "salt" and is flummoxed at the idea that a spice rack could hold as "many" as 8 spices, claiming some must be doubles and having never heard of Oregano before.

* ''Webcomic/MenageA3'' features [=DiDi=], who lacks some of the attributes of extreme femininity, but who is certainly very, very [[GagBoobs female]] -- and who is a keen hobbyist cook, implied to be far and away the best in the kitchen of the lead cast.

-->-- '''Eve''', ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries, "Mudd's Women"''

* In ''LightNovel/TheStoryOfSaiunkoku'', Shuurei, the protagonist, is the first ''ever'' woman politician in her country, and she is an excellent cook. Her red bean buns in particular are much loved by the other characters.

* Referenced in ''LightNovel/ACertainMagicalIndex''. After Touma nearly kills himself helping Mikoto [[spoiler:and the Sisters clones]], she buys him some cookies as thanks. He protests that the reward would usually be homemade cookies, and Mikoto (a textbook tomboy) demands to know exactly what kind of girl he thinks she is. The ''Railgun'' manga, however, shows that she afterward ''did'' bake him some cookies herself (with Saten's help), but was too embarrassed to give them to him.

* Averted in an issue of ''[[Franchise/JusticeLeagueOfAmerica JLA]] Classified'' written by Creator/GailSimone, where Franchise/WonderWoman presents the other members of the JLA with a traditional Themyscrian pastry. Flash and Green Lantern are more than a little panicked at the thought that Wonder Woman ''bakes''... and shocked by the tasty results.

* DependingOnTheWriter, ComicBook/LoisLane.

* While ComicBook/RedTornado (Abigail "Ma" Hunkel) is more known for being rather rough and tumble and looking like a linebacker than being feminine she is a caring mother/grandmother and excellent chef whose meals the ComicBook/{{JSA}} are quite appreciative of.

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* Played with in ''Series/{{Firefly}}''. In "Our Mrs. Reynolds", Mal's almost painfully submissive new wife Saffron turns out to be a fabulous cook. Zoe is not amused when Saffron suggests she cook for her husband, and is even less amused when Wash drools over Saffron's cooking. However, in "War Stories", a rather touching scene has Zoe cooking for Wash after he leads the charge to rescue Mal.
--> ''"Mmmmmm. Wife soup."''

* In the ''Series/StarTrekTheOriginalSeries'' episode "Mudd's Women", cooking is one skill that ought to be considered above looks.

* Played with in ''Fanfic/LegendsCollideAlolasHouseOfChampions''; Nora is the most notable cook of the bunch, but she's [[TheLadette as far from "feminine" as it's possible to get]]; Leaf and Dawn are much more feminine, and Leaf can cook fairly well while Dawn [[LethalChef can't cook at all]]; May and Rosa each have varying but mostly good cooking skills, and are [[TomboyWithAGirlyStreak tomboys with girly streaks]].

By feminine we mean traditional [[HouseWife domestically-focused wife-like roles]]. Being [[TheVamp sexy]] isn't enough to qualify. You can also lose femininity by becoming [[{{Kawaiiko}} overly childish and cute]]. We are talking about a traditionalist grown woman femininity here; The Wife of TheThreeFacesOfEve.

Keep in mind that this trope refers to ''home'' cooking, not professional cookery. (Although working in a restaurant may still be counted as one of the AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits depending on how it's presented.) Younger tropers might be surprised to learn that before the 1980s, women were generally not allowed to work as professional chefs.[[note]]Famous female chefs do seem to have worked professionally pre-1980, whether in their own eateries or publicly.[[/note]] The excuse usually given was that the work was "too physically hard" for women, but in reality the common belief was that although a woman could make an adequate home cook, she could ''never'' be a real chef, because [[DoubleStandard being a chef took a certain genius]] that no woman could possibly ever, ''ever'' have. The resistance to women working as professional chefs was so strong that some women who tried ended up having to leave the profession to protect themselves from sexual harassment and violence. Thus Colette in ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'' can cook and be a fiery feminist heroine at the same time - as she points out, she ''has'' to be a fiery cook in order to become a chef at all.

* Inverted in ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha''. Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate, who are independent, [[PersonOfMassDestruction highly destructive]] {{Action Girl}}s with glowing military careers, are all revealed [[AllThereInTheManual in supplementary material]] to be good cooks in their own right. The LethalChef of the series? Why, it's the TeamMom and WhiteMagicianGirl, Shamal![[note]]Justified since Nanoha's parents own a bakery and she's been helping around household chores since before season 1, while Hayate used to be a [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist crippled girl living on her own,]] and the first episodes of A's shows her cooking, ''while in a wheelchair''. Fate, meanwhile, is revealed in [[ComicBookAdaptation one of the manga chapters]] to have been taught how to cook by Linith, Precia's CatGirl familiar who raised her before the events of the first season.[[/note]]

* In ''Franchise/SailorMoon'', tomboy Makoto (AKA Sailor Jupiter) is easily the best cook of the group. A manga sidestory that focuses on her shows she cooks and does housework when stressed or depressed, even if it stops her from doing more important things, like studying for entrance exams. Because of suggestions it ultimately relates to her femininity complex, this aspect is [[ValuesDissonance reinterpreted in some adaptations]] as having a professional interest in running restaurants.

* Shimura Tae from ''Manga/{{Gintama}}'' can be considered a subversion of the Type 3 variant of this trope. She definitely fits the bill character-wise, although she capriciously vaults back and forth in between feminine innocence and tomboyish wrath whenever somebody offends her or [[StalkerWithACrush infringes upon her privacy.]] She has been repeatedly stated to only know how to boil eggs, and the resulting product is always a blackened and inedible pulp much to the chagrin of the people she was cooking for. As a result of this RunningGag, her younger brother Shinpachi usually does the cooking in their household.

** Hayate is a great cook and continually shown to be so feminine a boy he can be mistaken for a girl. Hayate is shown to be hyper-qualified at everything he does.

** Sasami's the usual cook for the household, mostly out of a desire to pay back for staying at Tenchi's house. However, there are times where both Ryoko (very much TheLadette) and Ayeka (TheOjou, meaning she's very girlish) attempt to cook, mostly to win Tenchi over. One issue of the manga series had Tenchi fall ill after one of Ryoko and Ayeka's fights knocked him into the lake, leading to both girls to try to cook for him. Both girls are horrible cooks, but where Ryoko plows through trying to cook (with disastrous results, Ayeka ends up swallowing her pride and Sasami aids her. It's all for naught, though - by the time Ayeka's done cooking, Tenchi's feeling much better and it's ''Mihoshi'' who's sick (she got that way trying her own idea to cure Tenchi).

* ''Manga/BlueExorcist'' [[AvertedTrope averts]] this completely, as ''no woman'' of the main cast is shown capable of cooking. Shiemi certainly tries, but it always tastes awful and is stuffed full of herbs [[spoiler: though that comes in handy once]] and the one time Izumo is seen about to cook she looks incredibly lost. The one person who can cook? The resident AntiAntiChrist [[SuperStrength Rin]], who, admittedly, is a fairly [[InTouchWithHisFeminineSide girly]] guy (or rather gender-neutral), who, to add insult to injury to any poor girl around trying to attract his twin brother [[ChickMagnet Yukio]] via ThroughHisStomach, is also a SupremeChef with a [[WordOfGod 100% success rate]].

** Particularly played with when it comes to Megumi. She's extremely feminine and supportive in a 'girl next door' sort of way, which has great influence on her cooking. Rather than emphasize technical perfection or ingenuity like her male or more aggressive female counterparts, she prefers to use simple ingredients with painstaking care put into thinking about who is going to eat it. However, while this does make her the most girly girl in the cast, it's also nearly gotten her expelled in at least three different points throughout the story and also causes her to be overlooked in favor of students like Alice or Miyoko, even if she actually scores higher than the latter and makes much more enjoyable and comfortable food than the former.

* While ComicBook/RedTornado (Abigail "Ma" Hunkel) is more known for being rather rough and tumble and looking like a linebacker than being feminine she is a caring mother/grandmother, and excellent chef whose meals the ComicBook/{{JSA}} are quite appreciative of.

* In Creator/LMMontgomery's ''Literature/JaneOfLanternHill'', Jane takes to cooking like a duck to water, feeding both herself and her father thought she was never allowed to cook before. She does prudently buy a cookbook first, and donuts defeat her.

** Mr. Collins makes the mistake of thinking one of the Bennett daughters helped with the meal. Mrs. Bennet corrects him; after all that's what they have servants for.

* On one episode of ''Series/JustShootMe'', Nina is asked to cook a meal for a congressman she's dating. (She was auditioning for a stuffing commercial, long story.) An aging former model who's never been on a kitchen her adult life, she has to ask Maya for help over the phone. Maya has been seen hosting a dinner in at least one episode, and although no comments, good or bad, are ever made about her cooking, it can be assumed that she's at least a competent cook.

* Averted and {{lampshade|Hanging}}d on ''Series/{{Frasier}}''. Daphne, the sweet, caring, [[TeamMom maternal]], capable, very feminine [[TheHeart Heart]] is, surprisingly, such an appalling cook that the badness of her cooking and the repulsiveness of her recipes is a RunningGag and transcends mere badness and becomes a [[EpicFail kind of awesomeness]]. However, Daphne ''believes'' she is this trope, and is oblivious to her lack of talent until Niles, [[ItMakesSenseInContext as part of an effort to prove how much he loves her]], kicks off his list of her flaws with a gleeful "[[{{Understatement}} To be honest, I don't much care for your cooking]]. In fact, you can't cook at all." which strikes her dumb with astonishment. This could also be an American joke on British cuisine.

* ''Series/SchittsCreek'' has Joceyln and Moira. The motherly Joceyln knows how to cook and bakes for people, but Moira used to pass off her housekeeper's enchiladas as her own cooking, a fact that is revealed when Moira borrows Joceyln's kitchen to make them. The show has a gender-flipped version later with their spouses. The lunkheaded but masculine Roland knows how to grill, but Johnny doesn't because he always hired a chef to do the grilling.

* In ''Theatre/TheGoldenApple'', Miss Minerva bakes a seven-layer cake for the fair "just to prove I'm feminine." But Lovey Mars takes along her mincemeat pie and Mrs. Juniper brings her prize-winning angel-food cake. And then old Mother Hare appears and offers her AppleOfDiscord to the most feminine of them all, for confectionery values of femininity.

** Played with. Ann, a tomboy, [[LethalChef cannot cook well]] in her [[VideoGame/HarvestMoon64 first appearence]]. Come its [[VideoGame/HarvestMoonBackToNature successor port]], and she's one of the best cooks in the game.

* Played with in YuriGenre VisualNovel ''VisualNovel/AkaiIto''. The protagonist Kei is the most stereotypically-feminine amongst the female cast, but her cooking can only be described as biohazard. TheLadette Sakuya usually ends up cooking for her.

* ''VisualNovel/HigurashiWhenTheyCry'' features Rena, Rika, Mion and to a lesser extent Satoko, who are quite skilled in cooking. They all have their reasons though. The man of the group on the other hand, is closer to a Lethal Chef when he tries to cook something more elaborate than instant noodles; Rena's father is also a dreadful cook, but he still tries. Actually, no man can cook in this series.

--> '''Mary and Susan:''' We... might have used too much DNA.

** On the flip-side, tomboyish farm girl Applejack has proven to be good at cooking with her family's apples, which makes sense since that's one way her farm makes money.

* ''Animation/PleasantGoatAndBigBigWolf'': Tibbie, the makeup-loving [[TheChick chick]] of the goats, is also stated to enjoy cooking.

** Discussed in ''VideoGame/Persona3''; [[ShrinkingViolet Fuuka Yamagishi]], despite her gentle and supportive personality, perceives herself to lack femininity due to her talent at [[WrenchWench tinkering with computers and electronics]], and wants to learn how to cook to make up for it. Unfortunately, [[LethalChef her cooking is quite awful]]. However, the trope is played straight by [[TheChick Yukari Takeba]] and ''[[UpdatedRerelease Persona 3 Portable]]''[='s=] female protagonist, though the latter is more of a TomboyWithAGirlyStreak; ''Portable''[='s=] protagonist is such a SupremeChef that she can actually teach Fuuka how to cook properly.
** ''VideoGame/Persona4'' is a notable aversion; the two traditionally feminine girls [[YamatoNadeshiko Yukiko Amagi]] and [[TheChick Rise Kujikawa]] [[LethalChef can't cook at all]] (well, Rise isn't unskilled, but her food's only edible if you're a fire eater like her). That said, the more tomboyish [[CuteBruiser Chie Satonaka]], who is insecure about her femininity, is an even worse chef than them. Just to give an idea of how bad these three are - when they gave Nanako (TheHero's cousin) cooking suggestions on how to make chocolate (telling her to put coffee, spices, and ''fish''), they ended up by proxy '''creating an EldritchAbomination!!''' The MC is immediately hit with the Fear status effect as a result! In contrast, {{Bifauxnen}} detective Naoto Shirogane is a competent cook, though it's mostly because she's actually capable of following cooking instructions. At the end, Yukiko, Rise, and Chie are only able to bake an edible cake by getting the help of Naoto, and Naoto notes that it still took them three tries. It's also implied highly feminine [[RichBitch Ai]] cannot cook either when she remarks that it would be nice to end up with a guy who can cook after eating food prepared by TheHero.
** ''VideoGame/Persona5'' doesn't really address this like prior games do, but it's noted that, in her confidant, [[StudentCouncilPresident Makoto]] (who is somewhat tomboyish, but also demure) can generally cook well, mostly because her [[AloofBigBrother workaholic sister]] and caretaker Sae infrequently comes home. DummiedOut dialogue suggests that the girly [[TheChick Ann]] cannot cook at all, and all that [[GamerChick Futaba]] knows how to make is instant noodles. The delicate Haru doesn't know how to fully cook at ''present'', but she's fantastic at [[GreenThumb harvesting vegetables]] and wants to learn how to cook in the future, what with her aspiration to open her own organic-friendly cafe. [[CoolOldGuy Sojiro Sakura]], on the other hand, is a firm proponent of RealMenCook, although we [[OneNoteCook don't see him cook anything]] other than a curry that his [[TheLostLenore old flame]] Wakaba perfected and carefully-crafted cups of coffee. The protagonist can learn how to make both from him...and only both of those things.

** In ''Anime/SmilePrecure'', this is played straight with Yayoi, who's a good cook and very feminine (aside from being a big fan of {{tokusatsu}} and wanting to be a manga artist). However, it's averted with Akane and Nao, who are both {{Tomboy}}s but still good at cooking (Akane's family runs an okonomiyaki restaurant, and Nao comes from a large family so she often has to help out).

* In ''Literature/TheBible'', this is one of the traits of the ideal wife in Proverbs 31. "She is like a merchant fleet, bringing her food from afar. She rises while it is still night, and supplies provisions for her household, the daily fare of her maids." She's also [[TextileWorkIsFeminine pretty handy with a spindle]]. (It's part of a very big list; being able to do ''any'' of it is seen as a good thing. That said, if she CAN cook, it means another skill that doesn't need to be outsourced.)

* Inverted in ''Franchise/LyricalNanoha''. Nanoha, Fate, and Hayate, who are independent, [[PersonOfMassDestruction highly destructive]] {{Action Girl}}s with glowing military careers, are all revealed [[AllThereInTheManual in supplementary material]] to be good cooks in their own right. The LethalChef of the series? Why, it's the TeamMom and WhiteMagicianGirl, Shamal, of course![[note]]Justified since Nanoha's parents own a bakery and she's been helping around household chores since before season 1, while Hayate used to be a [[SocialServicesDoesNotExist crippled girl living on her own,]] and the first episodes of A's shows her cooking, ''while in a wheelchair''. Fate, meanwhile, is revealed in [[ComicBookAdaptation one of the manga chapters]] to have been taught how to cook by Linith, Precia's CatGirl familiar who raised her before the events of the first season.[[/note]]

* Shimura Tae from ''Manga/{{Gintama}}'' can be considered a subversion of the Type 3 variant of this trope. She definitely fits the bill character-wise, although she capriciously vaults back and forth in between feminine innocence and tomboyish wrath whenever somebody offends her or [[StalkerWithACrush infringes upon her privacy.]] She has been repeatedly stated to only know how to boil eggs, and even then the resulting product is always a blackened and inedible pulp much to the chagrin of the people she was cooking for. As a result of this RunningGag, her younger brother Shinpachi usually does the cooking in their household.

* ''Film/WomanOfTheYear'' spends much of the movie showing how Katharine Hepburn's female reporter is the intellectual equal (or even superior) of Spencer Tracy's male reporter. The last scene in the movie is of Hepburn trying to make waffles but failing spectacularly, indicating that by being so successful in the "man's world" (the movie was released in 1942), she's basically rendered helpless in the "woman's world."

* Lara Croft in ''[[Film/LaraCroftTombRaider Tomb Raider]]'' even screws up reheating a ready meal in a microwave. Of course, she's of noble blood, and her butler does all the cooking. She's also most definitely ''not'' feminine. The one time she puts on an elegant dress, her butler nearly has a heart attack (he's been trying to get her to act like a proper lady for years) and quickly corrects the situation by serving her guns on a tray.

** Polgara. She ''can'' cook, masterfully, and she at least pays lip service to the idea that she, as a woman, is better off manipulating events subtly and behind the scenes. The events of ''Polgara the Sorceress'', however, prove that she's just as willing as her father Belgarath to flat-out strongarm people (or an ''entire nation'') into doing what she wants, and she's almost as proficient as him at it, to boot.

* In the Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse, [[ActionGirl Mara Jade]] tries to give Luke a taste of home by cooking a Tatooine dish. She, of course, screws it up. Luke, perhaps for the sake of her feelings (or just to escape [[BerserkButton her rage]]), tells her that it smells just like he remembers; and that he really wanted to leave Tatooine because of the food.

* In ''Literature/RedeemingLove'', this trope is averted with former prostitute Angel, who is very good at looking and behaving like a [[ProperLady lady]], but has next to no domestic skills because she’s never needed them before getting married. This is a source of angst and frustration once she reaches a point where she wants to do something appropriately wifely for Michael like make him dinner. Played straight when she gets enough practice that she actually becomes quite skilled in the kitchen, and even acquires a job as a cook later on in the novel.

* Invoked in ''Literature/SummersAtCastleAuburn'' when Roderick basically says this. Corie points out to him that's stupid because most noblewomen can't cook.

* In ''Literature/TheBible'', this is one of the traits of the ideal wife in Proverbs 31. "She is like the merchant ships, she brings her food from afar. She also rises while it is yet night and provides food for her household, and a portion for her maidservants." She's also [[TextileWorkIsFeminine pretty handy with a spindle]]. (Of course, it's part of a very big list; being able to do ''any'' of it is seen as a good thing. That said, if she CAN cook, it means another skill that doesn't need to be outsourced.)

** Monica is a domestic beauty who longs to have a family. She is a professional chef but she also feeds the entire gang for the whole series. She loves to play the role of a perfect hostess and loves cooking for her friends. She is also very competitive, strong-willed and gutsy and something of a GirlyGirlWithATomboyStreak.

* Debra of ''Series/EverybodyLovesRaymond''; she's a traditional stay-at-home mom who happens to cook badly. Of course, it's probably not quite as bad as her mother-in-law makes it out to be, but it's pretty bad.

* Used to a remarkable extent in ''Series/KyleXY'', despite both parents working. During a period when the mother of the family Nicole isn't cooking the rest of them don't even seem to consider the possibility that maybe someone else could cook, subsisting entirely on takeout food.

* ''Series/SchittsCreek'' has Joceyln and Moira. The motherly Joceyln knows how to cook and even bakes for people, but Moira used to pass off her housekeeper's enchiladas as her own cooking, a fact that is revealed when Moira borrows Joceyln's kitchen to make them. The show has a gender-flipped version later with their spouses. The lunkheaded but masculine Roland knows how to grill, but Johnny doesn't because he always hired a chef to do the grilling.

** Exaggerated by Rose in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolid2SonsOfLiberty'', who is the perfect girlfriend, but a terrible cook. However, she's a Patriot spy who modified her entire personality to fit Raiden's profile of the ideal woman, and her bad cooking is the one chink in her armour.

* Living up to her first name, Flora Reinhold of the ''VideoGame/ProfessorLayton'' series is about as feminine as you can get: always wearing dresses, being polite and soft-spoken, and even being a DamselInDistress at one point. And, according to the games' ending credits, she cannot cook but seems to like to anyway.

* Lauren from ''VisualNovel/DoubleHomework'' can learn to cook just about anything, sometimes with a minimum of “suitable” ingredients.

* ''Manga/HellTeacherNube'': [[AnIcePerson Yukime]] dreams of cooking delicious meals for her love interest, Nube, and when he can't enjoy them (since [[AlienLunch they're frozen solid,]] her being a [[{{Youkai}} Yuki-onna]] and all), she's upset at her own lack of skill more than his own refusal.

** Subverted in ''Anime/YesPrecure5'' as the girlier girls of the team, Komachi and Karen, can't cook worth a hill of beans. Neither can the tomboyish Rin or the star of the series Nozomi.

* Subverted in ''Anime/YesPrecure5'' as the girlier girls of the team, Komachi and Karen, can't cook worth a hill of beans. Neither can the tomboyish Rin or the star of the series Nozomi.
* In ''Anime/SmilePrettyCure'', this is played straight with Yayoi, who's a good cook and very feminine (aside from being a big fan of {{tokusatsu}} and wanting to be a manga artist). However, it's averted with Akane and Nao, who are both {{Tomboy}}s but still good at cooking (Akane's family runs an okonomiyaki restaurant, and Nao comes from a large family so she often has to help out).

* A massive [[SubvertedTrope subversion]] in ''Anime/ShakuganNoShana'' comes when it turns out that NinjaMaid Wilhelmina, loyal servant and ParentalSubstitute to Shana, [[LethalChef can't cook to save her life.]]

* Zigzagged a little on ''Series/{{Chef}}''. Since it's a sitcom about a high-class restaurant, most of the characters, male or female, ''can'' cook, with the notable exception of Janice Blackstock, who is written as a perfectly feminine, albeit career-oriented, woman. But it's okay because she's married to the best chef in the world (just ask him). She manages the restaurant, and at no point is her inability to cook seen as negating her femininity (although Gareth makes fun of her for it once). The third season inverts this with the RichBitch character Renee, who [[GirlyGirl loves the colour pink]] and is completely useless at cooking when introduced, although it's implied she gets better toward the end of the season. Prim and proper [[TheSnarkKnight Lucinda]] and slightly masculine Savannah are both brilliant cooks.

* In ''VideoGame/RuneFactoryOceans'' (known as "Rune Factory: Tides of Destiny" in the West), you start the game as the male protagonist Aden but have the choice of switching to the female protagonist Sonja once you've restored her body. Sonja will inherit all of Adel's skills with the exception of cooking, which will automatically be bumped up to 40 if Aden had any less than that.

Keep in mind that this trope refers to ''home'' cooking, not professional cookery. (Although working in a restaurant may still be counted as one of the AcceptableFeminineGoalsAndTraits depending on how it's presented.) Younger tropers might be surprised to learn that before the 1980s, women were generally not allowed to work as professional chefs. [[note]] Famous female chefs do seem to have worked professionally pre-1980, whether in their own eateries or publicly. [[/note]] The excuse usually given was that the work was "too physically hard" for women, but in reality the common belief was that although a woman could make an adequate home cook, she could ''never'' be a real chef, because [[DoubleStandard being a chef took a certain genius]] that no woman could possibly ever, ''ever'' have. The resistance to women working as professional chefs was so strong that some women who tried ended up having to leave the profession to protect themselves from sexual harassment and violence. Thus Colette in ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}'' can cook and be a fiery feminist heroine at the same time - as she points out, she ''has'' to be a fiery cook in order to become a chef at all.

* In ''Manga/AiKora'', tomboyish {{ninja}} girl Kirino is revealed to be an excellent cook.

* In ''LightNovel/SaiunkokuMonogatari'', Shuurei, the protagonist, is the first ''ever'' woman politician in her country, and she is an excellent cook. Her red bean buns in particular are much loved by the other characters.

** Sakura learned to cook to appeal to Shirou. One of her primary goals seems to be to outdo him at cooking and she gets a little antsy if she fails. Her [[BreakTheCutie unpleasant backstory]] drove away most of her feminine traits, and also most of her human ones... But she's (a bit) [[TheWoobie better]] by the time the story starts. [[spoiler:Except in Heaven's Feel where those quick flashes of insecurity or jealousy she had in the previous two routes, coupled with the shards of the corrupted Grail that Zouken's implanted into her, cause her to go insane (eventually). She recovered, fortunately.]]

* In Creator/DorothyLSayers's ''Literature/LordPeterWimsey'' novel ''Gaudy Night'', Miss Cattermole is miserable at Oxford and would rather be a cook. She can't because her mother is really big at getting women out of traditional jobs -- cooking is too feminine.