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* ''WesternAnimation/AngelWars'': They're mentioned a few times as being responsible for deciding who gets promoted to the office of archangel, but they're never shown on-screen.

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* ''Film/DownToEarth2001'': Seemingly, God doesn't appear but Keyes and King do, who look like humans in blue suits. Lance even comments on how they look like certain actors. King does mention that he spoke to God about Lance's problem, who told him to give Lance a new body.



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* ''WesternAnimation/HazbinHotel'': In this series and its SharedUniverse spinoff ''WebAnimation/HelluvaBoss'', Heaven is ruled by a council of Elder Angels, with no official confirmation on whether God is involved or if He even exists within this setting.
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** The organization of the angels is a fairly complex affair. Heaven is led by a number of archangels, each of whom oversees a specific part of the Symphony of creation, while common angels can become aligned with sub-concepts under an archangel's purview; for instance, the Angel of Glory would answer to Michael, the Archangel of War. Angels are further divided into a number of Choirs, which form a descending hierarchy of prestige and closeness to God -- Seraphim, Cherubim, Ofanim, Elohim, Malakim, Kyriotates and Mercurians; there are also used to be the Grigori, before they got kicked out of Heaven for interbreeding with humans. Major issues and decisions are settled by the Seraphim Council, which consists of all elder Seraphim, the Archangels, and some exceptionally old and wise members of other Choirs. The issue of the human religions is also contentious and most archangels are hesitant to claim that any one faith is the correct one, but others support specific ones -- Dominic and Laurence favor Catholicism, for instance, while Khalid and Zadkiel champion Islam.

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** The organization of the angels is a fairly complex affair. Heaven is led by a number of archangels, each of whom oversees a specific part of the Symphony of creation, while common angels can become aligned with sub-concepts under an archangel's purview; for instance, the Angel of Glory would answer to Michael, the Archangel of War. Angels are further divided into a number of Choirs, which form a descending hierarchy of prestige and closeness to God -- Seraphim, Cherubim, Ofanim, Elohim, Malakim, Kyriotates and Mercurians; there are also used to be the Grigori, before they got kicked out of Heaven for interbreeding with humans. Major issues and decisions are settled by the Seraphim Council, which consists of all elder Seraphim, the Archangels, and some exceptionally old and wise members of other Choirs. While nominally united in their goal to defeat the demons and safeguard humanity, the Council is deeply riven by a tangle of politicking, factionalism and power plays based on its members' different priorities, varying interpretations of God's will, and personal feuds and grudes. The issue of the human religions is also contentious and most archangels are hesitant to claim that any one faith is the correct one, but others support specific ones -- Dominic and Laurence favor Catholicism, for instance, while Khalid and Zadkiel champion Islam.
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* ''LightNovel/HighschoolDxD'': Heaven is ruled by an angelic council led by the ArchangelMichael, who after the death of {{Satan}} formed a peace treaty with the new DarkIsNotEvil government of Hell. While mostly benevolent, [[spoiler:they are concealing the fact that God is ''also'' dead, and that the emergence of [[OxymoronicBeing "impossible" powers]] like [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu Balance Breakers]] and [[YinYangBomb Holy Demonic Swords]] is a result of Michael's imperfect attempts at taking over His duties]].

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* ''LightNovel/HighschoolDxD'': ''Literature/HighschoolDxD'': Heaven is ruled by an angelic council led by the ArchangelMichael, who after the death of {{Satan}} formed a peace treaty with the new DarkIsNotEvil government of Hell. While mostly benevolent, [[spoiler:they are concealing the fact that God is ''also'' dead, and that the emergence of [[OxymoronicBeing "impossible" powers]] like [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu Balance Breakers]] and [[YinYangBomb Holy Demonic Swords]] is a result of Michael's imperfect attempts at taking over His duties]].
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* ''Literature/GuildHunter'': The Cadre of Ten, made up of the ten [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority most powerful]] [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Archangels]] in the world. The number can dip as low as seven, but there's never meant to be more than ten; there's only so much of the planet, after all.

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* ''Literature/GuildHunter'': The Cadre of Ten, made up of the ten [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership most powerful]] [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Archangels]] in the world. The number can dip as low as seven, but there's never meant to be more than ten; there's only so much of the planet, after all.
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** The Court of Stars, leaders of the ChaoticGood eladrins (NamesTheSame but not to be confused with 4th and 5th Edition eladrin, which are a PC race of elves and can be of any alignment). They're more like fairy lords than angels, but embody ChaoticGood all the same.

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* ''Literature/{{Others}}'': In Hell, a murky, timeless realm of solitary remorse, a deceased actor is visited by two angels, who explain "[[{{Heaven}} the Uppermost Level]]" to have agreed to give him, and several others, a second chance at earthly life.
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''Webcomic/HolyBibble'': There is a council of archangels who occasionally gather around a table to discuss things, though more often than not it seems that the angels on the council generally make secret decisions on their own, undermining the whole system all together.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Ultrakill}}'': According to the lore entries for Gabriel, King Minos [[spoiler:and his soul]], and in the end cutscene for Act I, Heaven is run by such a council. If [[spoiler:Minos Prime's]] lore is any indication, this is because [[spoiler: ''[[HaveYouSeenMyGod God has flat out vanished]]'']].

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* ''VideoGame/{{Ultrakill}}'': According to the lore entries for Gabriel, King Minos [[spoiler:and his soul]], and in the end cutscene for Act I, Heaven is run by such a council. If [[spoiler:Minos Prime's]] lore is any indication, this is because [[spoiler: ''[[HaveYouSeenMyGod God has flat out vanished]]'']]. Act II explains further: [[spoiler:God didn't vanish, ''GodIsDead'', having died long ago. The Act ends with Gabriel wiping out the council, as well.]]
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* ''VideoGame/{{Ultrakill}}'': According to the lore entry for Gabriel, King Minos [[spoiler:and his soul]], and in the end cutscene for Act I, Heaven is run by such a council. If Minos Prime's lore is any indication, this is because [[spoiler: ''[[HaveYouSeenMyGod God has flat out vanished]]'']].

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* ''VideoGame/{{Ultrakill}}'': According to the lore entry entries for Gabriel, King Minos [[spoiler:and his soul]], and in the end cutscene for Act I, Heaven is run by such a council. If Minos Prime's [[spoiler:Minos Prime's]] lore is any indication, this is because [[spoiler: ''[[HaveYouSeenMyGod God has flat out vanished]]'']].
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* ''Literature/CradleSeries'': The Judges of the Abidan Court come off like this, ruling over all the [[AlternateUniverse Iterations]] and protecting them from Chaos. Lesser Abidan are powerful enough on their own, but the Judges are without a doubt the most powerful entities in all of creation. If there is a single God above them, they are unaware. The closest was Adriel, the original creator of the Abidan, who could create Iterations outright (instead of having to stitch them together out of pieces). [[HaveYouSeenMyGod He disappeared long ago/]]

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* ''Literature/CradleSeries'': The Judges of the Abidan Court come off like this, ruling over all the [[AlternateUniverse Iterations]] and protecting them from Chaos. Lesser Abidan are powerful enough on their own, but the Judges are without a doubt the most powerful entities in all of creation. If there is a single God above them, they are unaware. The closest was Adriel, the original creator of the Abidan, who could create Iterations outright (instead of having to stitch them together out of pieces). [[HaveYouSeenMyGod He disappeared long ago/]]ago.]]
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** The organization of the angels is a fairly complex affair. Heaven is run jointly by a number of archangels, each of whom oversees a specific part of the Symphony of creation, while common angels can become aligned with sub-concepts under an archangel's purview; for instance, the Angel of Glory would answer to Michael, the Archangel of War. Angels are further divided into a number of Choirs, which form a descending hierarchy of prestige and closeness to God -- Seraphim, Cherubim, Ofanim, Elohim, Malakim, Kyriotates and Mercurians; there are also used to be the Grigori, before they got kicked out of Heaven for interbreeding with humans. The issue of the human religions is also contentious and most archangels are hesitant to claim that any one faith is the correct one, but others support specific ones -- Dominic and Laurence favor Catholicism, for instance, while Khalid and Zadkiel champion Islam.

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** The organization of the angels is a fairly complex affair. Heaven is run jointly led by a number of archangels, each of whom oversees a specific part of the Symphony of creation, while common angels can become aligned with sub-concepts under an archangel's purview; for instance, the Angel of Glory would answer to Michael, the Archangel of War. Angels are further divided into a number of Choirs, which form a descending hierarchy of prestige and closeness to God -- Seraphim, Cherubim, Ofanim, Elohim, Malakim, Kyriotates and Mercurians; there are also used to be the Grigori, before they got kicked out of Heaven for interbreeding with humans. Major issues and decisions are settled by the Seraphim Council, which consists of all elder Seraphim, the Archangels, and some exceptionally old and wise members of other Choirs. The issue of the human religions is also contentious and most archangels are hesitant to claim that any one faith is the correct one, but others support specific ones -- Dominic and Laurence favor Catholicism, for instance, while Khalid and Zadkiel champion Islam.
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** The organization of the angels is a fairly complex affair. Heaven is run jointly by a number of archangels, each of whom oversees a specific part of the Symphony of creation, while common angels can become aligned with sub-concepts under an archangel's purview; for instance, the Angel of Glory would answer to Michael, the Archangel of War. Angels are further divided into a number of Choirs, which form a descending hierarchy of prestige and closeness to God -- Seraphim, Cherubim, Ofanim, Elohim, Malakim, Kyriotates and Mercurians; there are also used to be the Grigori, before they got kicked out of Heaven for interbreeding with humans. The issue of the human religions is also contentious and most archangels are hesitant to claim that any one faith is the correct one, but others support specific ones -- Dominic and Laurence favor Catholicism, for instance, while Khalid champions Islam.

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** The organization of the angels is a fairly complex affair. Heaven is run jointly by a number of archangels, each of whom oversees a specific part of the Symphony of creation, while common angels can become aligned with sub-concepts under an archangel's purview; for instance, the Angel of Glory would answer to Michael, the Archangel of War. Angels are further divided into a number of Choirs, which form a descending hierarchy of prestige and closeness to God -- Seraphim, Cherubim, Ofanim, Elohim, Malakim, Kyriotates and Mercurians; there are also used to be the Grigori, before they got kicked out of Heaven for interbreeding with humans. The issue of the human religions is also contentious and most archangels are hesitant to claim that any one faith is the correct one, but others support specific ones -- Dominic and Laurence favor Catholicism, for instance, while Khalid champions and Zadkiel champion Islam.

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See also GodIsEvil, HaveYouSeenMyGod, CrystalDragonJesus, and their usual leaders, CelestialParagonsAndArchangels. The opposite number of DemonLordsAndArchdevils.

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See also GodIsEvil, HaveYouSeenMyGod, CrystalDragonJesus, and their usual leaders, CelestialParagonsAndArchangels. The opposite number of DemonLordsAndArchdevils. TheArmiesOfHeaven typically form these Councils' chambers militant.



* ''Manga/SandsOfDestruction'': The world is governed by at least five beings:
** The Divine -- mentioned only in passing as the one who provides the raw materials for creating the world and who may have engaged in some DivineDelegation, although the reasons aren't explored.
** The Destruct -- a pair of angels whose job it is to systematically destroy the world every thousand years. [[CelestialParagonsAndArchangels Archangel Vreveil]] is the lord, and Kyrie is his assistant.
** The Planner -- the one whose job is to decide on the parameters of the new world to be created and the kinds of people and creatures who will fill it. It is just a guide, however, and is unable to actively participate in creation. It apparently suffered a bit of a breakdown, due to the BalanceOfGoodAndEvil meaning that the world will never be entirely happy.
** The Creator -- the one who actually goes about creating the world, guided by the Planner and using the materials of the Divine. [[spoiler:All of humanity]] is the Creator, including [[spoiler:anyone who has gained a human spirit and emotions, like Kyrie]].



* The vampire comic book ''{{ComicBook/Crimson}}'' had a Council Of Angels show up in one issue. {{God}} made it too, but didn't say anything. And only Lucifer recognized him, anyway.
* ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'' featured a few small subplots about angels arguing about whether they should attack Lucifer and whether or not it was God's will. God was notably quiet on the matter, although he did turn up a couple of times in various guises afterward.
* A Council Of Angels turned up in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', although their {{God}}'s absence from Heaven was actually part of the plot -- he'd run away because he feared the protagonist's power.
* God eventually showed up in ''ComicBook/{{Spawn}}'' as the being in charge of Heaven. He was of equal power to Satan (they were portrayed as brothers), and he only had power over Heaven and things Heaven owned. Then the "Mother of Creation" was introduced, as the being who made God and Satan and everything. And the Mother of Creation was Jesus. So, basically, God wasn't really God. The [=MoC=] is God, God is basically really just the "Head Angel in Charge". "God" does serve as a sort of one-man Council of Angels here, since he's in charge of Heaven directly without the apparent authority of the [=MoC=].
** ''Spawn'' was closer to a Gnostic viewpoint. God was the god of the Old Testament who acted supreme, but was not. MOC created the universe and a race of nigh-omnipotent, immortal beings and gave each a world to form as they wished. God and Satan both got Earth and refused to share acting like spoiled three-year olds, but were equal in power and could not kill each other. God created heaven, Satan created hell and they used angels, demons and humans to fight a proxy war. MOC grew disgusted with their fighting and removed them from their thrones to try and teach them to behave. This did not work. So God was god in the sense of the creator and ruler of heaven who also created the angels. But he was not the supreme being. However, he and Satan were both so far above anything and everything else save their mother they could be considered gods. None of their other brothers were ever shown and with power equal to theirs, Spawn easily trashed their combined armies.
* In the DCU cosmology, there are the four King-Angels (each head of the four hosts of Heaven: Eagle, Human, Bull, and Lion). Asmodel (the BigBad of one of the JLA {{story arc}}s) is King-Angel of the Bull Host. When Asmodel stormed the throne room of Heaven to usurp God, he discovered that [[spoiler:the throne room was empty. In the DCU, God is ''everywhere and everything'', making Asmodel's efforts utterly futile.]]

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* The vampire comic book ''{{ComicBook/Crimson}}'' had ''ComicBook/{{Crimson}}'' has a Council Of Angels show up in one issue. {{God}} made makes it too, but didn't doesn't say anything. And anything, and only Lucifer recognized him, recognizes Him anyway.
* ''Comicbook/{{Lucifer}}'' featured a few small subplots about angels arguing about whether they should attack Lucifer and whether or not it was God's will. God was notably quiet on the matter, although he did turn up a couple of times in various guises afterward.
* A Council Of Angels turned up in ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'', although their {{God}}'s absence from Heaven was actually part of the plot -- he'd run away because he feared the protagonist's power.
* God eventually showed up in ''ComicBook/{{Spawn}}'' as the being in charge of Heaven. He was of equal power to Satan (they were portrayed as brothers), and he only had power over Heaven and things Heaven owned. Then the "Mother of Creation" was introduced, as the being who made God and Satan and everything. And the Mother of Creation was Jesus. So, basically, God wasn't really God. The [=MoC=] is God, God is basically really just the "Head Angel in Charge". "God" does serve as a sort of one-man Council of Angels here, since he's in charge of Heaven directly without the apparent authority of the [=MoC=].
** ''Spawn'' was closer to a Gnostic viewpoint. God was the god of the Old Testament who acted supreme, but was not. MOC created the universe and a race of nigh-omnipotent, immortal beings and gave each a world to form as they wished. God and Satan both got Earth and refused to share acting like spoiled three-year olds, but were equal in power and could not kill each other. God created heaven, Satan created hell and they used angels, demons and humans to fight a proxy war. MOC grew disgusted with their fighting and removed them from their thrones to try and teach them to behave. This did not work. So God was god in the sense of the creator and ruler of heaven who also created the angels. But he was not the supreme being. However, he and Satan were both so far above anything and everything else save their mother they could be considered gods. None of their other brothers were ever shown and with power equal to theirs, Spawn easily trashed their combined armies.
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''Franchise/TheDCU'': There are the four King-Angels (each head of the four hosts of Heaven: Eagle, Human, Bull, and Lion). Asmodel (the BigBad of one of the JLA {{story arc}}s) is King-Angel of the Bull Host. When Asmodel stormed the throne room of Heaven to usurp God, he discovered that [[spoiler:the throne room was empty. In the DCU, God is ''everywhere and everything'', making Asmodel's efforts utterly futile.]]]]
* ''ComicBook/{{Lucifer}}'' features a few small subplots about angels arguing about whether they should attack Lucifer and whether or not it is God's will. God is notably quiet on the matter, although He does turn up a couple of times in various guises afterward.
* ''ComicBook/{{Preacher}}'': A Council of Angels turns up, although their {{God}}'s absence from Heaven was actually part of the plot -- he'd run away because he feared the protagonist's power.
* ''ComicBook/{{Spawn}}'': God eventually shows up as the being in charge of Heaven. He's of equal power to Satan (they're portrayed as brothers), and he only has power over Heaven and things Heaven owns. Then the "Mother of Creation" was introduced as the being who made God and Satan and everything. And the Mother of Creation was Jesus. So, basically, God wasn't really God. The [=MoC=] is God, God is basically really just the "Head Angel in Charge". "God" does serve as a sort of one-man Council of Angels here, since he's in charge of Heaven directly without the apparent authority of the [=MoC=]. ''Spawn'' is closer to a Gnostic viewpoint. God is the god of the Old Testament who acts supreme, but is not. [=MoC=] created the universe and a race of nigh-omnipotent, immortal beings and gave each a world to form as they wished. God and Satan both got Earth and refused to share acting like spoiled three-year olds, but were equal in power and could not kill each other. God created Heaven, Satan created Hell and they used angels, demons and humans to fight a proxy war. [=MoC=] grew disgusted with their fighting and removed them from their thrones to try and teach them to behave. This did not work. So God is god in the sense of the creator and ruler of Heaven who also created the angels, but he's not the supreme being. However, he and Satan are both so far above anything and everything else save their mother they can be considered gods. None of their other brothers are ever shown and, with power equal to theirs, Spawn easily trashed their combined armies.



* [[BigBad The Seraphim]] and the members of his cult use this as their primary gimmick in Fanfic/AngelOfTheBat. His EliteMooks dress in animal masks, come in groups of four and are referred to as "The Four Faces of the Cherubim". The Seraphim himself wields fire-based weaponry, has six wings and covers his face, in reference to the creatures he named himself after. This is in contrast to Cassandra/Angel of the Bat, whose design is more simplistic and friendly.

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* In ''Literature/GuildHunter'' there is the Cadre of Ten, made up of the ten [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority most powerful]] [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Archangels]] in the world. The number can dip as low as seven, but there's never meant to be more than ten; there's only so much of the planet, after all.
* In Creator/PiersAnthony's ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, the angels (primarily Gabriel) are running things because God is off contemplating his perfection in the "Heaven of Heavens". Unfortunately, while they mean well, they aren't up to the task.
* It's not explicitly stated in ''Literature/GoodOmens'' that God isn't exactly running things, but Beelzebub and the Metatron certainly seem to be in charge of the Heaven vs. Hell thing, and aren't actually 100% sure what they're supposed to be doing, exactly. Crowley and Aziraphale then exploit this like hell. Unusually for this trope, the problem isn't that nobody can find God, it's that He won't tell anyone anything. ''And He smiles all the time.''
* In ''Literature/DoraWilkSeries'' God rarely intervenes, and almost never directly, so Heaven is ruled by the Archangel Council, which consists of seven archangels and, in some situations, their families. Nevertheless, it's pretty clear that not all archangels are equal, as [[ArchangelMichael Michael]], [[ArchangelGabriel Gabriel]] and Raizel seem to have more influence than the rest.
* This trope is used by no less than Creator/CSLewis in his climax to the Literature/SpaceTrilogy, ''That Hideous Strength''. The Oyeresu, "angels" in control of and personifying each of the other planets, have been forbidden to interfere with Earth, which is under the control of Satan, as {{God}} is working out his own plans for it. However, the rules also say that they're supposed to contain {{Satan}}'s influence to within the lunar orbit... which means that under the right circumstances - like an invasion of Venus, for example - they can strike back...
* The Valar from ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' are archangels who have been charged with being the Guardians of Arda, the physical world. They have many traits in common with both Christian angels and mythological gods (it's believed that Creator/JRRTolkien set his cosmology up the way he did so that his devout Catholicism and love of mythology wouldn't trip over each other). While they're all good other than [[SatanicArchetype Melkor]], none of them are perfect. The Valar are in turn served by rank-and-file angels called the Maiar. The collective term for both types of angels is Ainur. However they are not supposed to rule Arda but guide the peoples, which is a mistake fallen Ainur make. Apparently when the Numenoreans attacked Valinor after being incited by [[ManipulativeBastard Sauron]], the Valar laid down their governance of the world, though they sent Maiar in human form to Middle-Earth to help against Sauron.
* Uriel turns up every now and then in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', and the other three famous Archangels are mentioned. God exists, but prefers mysterious-ways methods. Other angels have turned up since, particularly when Harry was dead in ''Ghost Story''.
* The Literature/BobbyDollar series has the whole deal, with [[HaveYouSeenMyGod absent and vague God figure]], much CelestialBureaucracy and a healthy amount of backstabbing.
* In ''LightNovel/HighschoolDxD'', Heaven is ruled by an angelic council led by the ArchangelMichael, who after the death of {{Satan}} formed a peace treaty with the new DarkIsNotEvil government of Hell. While mostly benevolent, [[spoiler:they are concealing the fact that God is ''also'' dead, and that the emergence of [[OxymoronicBeing "impossible" powers]] like [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu Balance Breakers]] and [[YinYangBomb Holy Demonic Swords]] is a result of Michael's imperfect attempts at taking over His duties.]]
* ''Literature/CradleSeries'': The Judges of the Abidan Court come off like this, ruling over all the [[AlternateUniverse Iterations]] and protecting them from Chaos. Lesser Abidan are powerful enough on their own, but the Judges are without a doubt the most powerful entities in all of creation. If there is a single God above them, they are unaware. The closest was Adriel, the original creator of the Abidan, who could create Iterations outright (instead of having to stitch them together out of pieces). [[HaveYouSeenMyGod He disappeared long ago]].

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* In ''Literature/GuildHunter'' there is the Cadre of Ten, made up of the ten [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority most powerful]] [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Archangels]] in the world. The number can dip as low as seven, but there's never meant to be more than ten; there's only so much of the planet, after all.
* In Creator/PiersAnthony's ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'' series, the angels (primarily Gabriel) are running things because God is off contemplating his perfection in the "Heaven of Heavens". Unfortunately, while they mean well, they aren't up to the task.
* It's not explicitly stated in ''Literature/GoodOmens'' that God isn't exactly running things, but Beelzebub and the Metatron certainly seem to be in charge of the Heaven vs. Hell thing, and aren't actually 100% sure what they're supposed to be doing, exactly. Crowley and Aziraphale then exploit this like hell. Unusually for this trope, the problem isn't that nobody can find God, it's that He won't tell anyone anything. ''And He smiles all the time.''
* In ''Literature/DoraWilkSeries'' God rarely intervenes, and almost never directly, so Heaven is ruled by the Archangel Council, which consists of seven archangels and, in some situations, their families. Nevertheless, it's pretty clear that not all archangels are equal, as [[ArchangelMichael Michael]], [[ArchangelGabriel Gabriel]] and Raizel seem to have more influence than the rest.
* This trope is used by no less than Creator/CSLewis in his climax to the Literature/SpaceTrilogy, ''That Hideous Strength''. The Oyeresu, "angels" in control of and personifying each of the other planets, have been forbidden to interfere with Earth, which is under the control of Satan, as {{God}} is working out his own plans for it. However, the rules also say that they're supposed to contain {{Satan}}'s influence to within the lunar orbit... which means that under the right circumstances - like an invasion of Venus, for example - they can strike back...
* The Valar from ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' are archangels who have been charged with being the Guardians of Arda, the physical world. They have many traits in common with both Christian angels and mythological gods (it's believed that Creator/JRRTolkien set his cosmology up the way he did so that his devout Catholicism and love of mythology wouldn't trip over each other). While they're all good other than [[SatanicArchetype Melkor]], none of them are perfect. The Valar are in turn served by rank-and-file angels called the Maiar. The collective term for both types of angels is Ainur. However they are not supposed to rule Arda but guide the peoples, which is a mistake fallen Ainur make. Apparently when the Numenoreans attacked Valinor after being incited by [[ManipulativeBastard Sauron]], the Valar laid down their governance of the world, though they sent Maiar in human form to Middle-Earth to help against Sauron.
* Uriel turns up every now and then in ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'', and the other three famous Archangels are mentioned. God exists, but prefers mysterious-ways methods. Other angels have turned up since, particularly when Harry was dead in ''Ghost Story''.
* The Literature/BobbyDollar series
''Literature/BobbyDollar'' has the whole deal, with [[HaveYouSeenMyGod absent and vague God figure]], much CelestialBureaucracy and a healthy amount of backstabbing.
* In ''LightNovel/HighschoolDxD'', Heaven is ruled by an angelic council led by the ArchangelMichael, who after the death of {{Satan}} formed a peace treaty with the new DarkIsNotEvil government of Hell. While mostly benevolent, [[spoiler:they are concealing the fact that God is ''also'' dead, and that the emergence of [[OxymoronicBeing "impossible" powers]] like [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu Balance Breakers]] and [[YinYangBomb Holy Demonic Swords]] is a result of Michael's imperfect attempts at taking over His duties.]]
* ''Literature/CradleSeries'': The Judges of the Abidan Court come off like this, ruling over all the [[AlternateUniverse Iterations]] and protecting them from Chaos. Lesser Abidan are powerful enough on their own, but the Judges are without a doubt the most powerful entities in all of creation. If there is a single God above them, they are unaware. The closest was Adriel, the original creator of the Abidan, who could create Iterations outright (instead of having to stitch them together out of pieces). [[HaveYouSeenMyGod He disappeared long ago]].
ago/]]
* ''Literature/DoraWilkSeries'': God rarely intervenes, and almost never directly, so Heaven is ruled by the Archangel Council, which consists of seven archangels and, in some situations, their families. Nevertheless, it's pretty clear that not all archangels are equal, as [[ArchangelMichael Michael]], [[ArchangelGabriel Gabriel]] and Raizel seem to have more influence than the rest.
* ''Literature/TheDresdenFiles'': Uriel turns up every now and then, and the other three famous Archangels are mentioned. God exists, but prefers mysterious-ways methods. Other angels have turned up since, particularly when Harry was dead in ''Literature/GhostStory''.
* ''Literature/GoodOmens'': It's not explicitly stated that God isn't exactly running things, but Beelzebub and the Metatron certainly seem to be in charge of the Heaven vs. Hell thing, and aren't actually 100% sure what they're supposed to be doing, exactly. Crowley and Aziraphale then exploit this like hell. Unusually for this trope, the problem isn't that nobody can find God, it's that He won't tell anyone anything. ''And He smiles all the time.''
* ''Literature/GuildHunter'': The Cadre of Ten, made up of the ten [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority most powerful]] [[OurAngelsAreDifferent Archangels]] in the world. The number can dip as low as seven, but there's never meant to be more than ten; there's only so much of the planet, after all.
* ''LightNovel/HighschoolDxD'': Heaven is ruled by an angelic council led by the ArchangelMichael, who after the death of {{Satan}} formed a peace treaty with the new DarkIsNotEvil government of Hell. While mostly benevolent, [[spoiler:they are concealing the fact that God is ''also'' dead, and that the emergence of [[OxymoronicBeing "impossible" powers]] like [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu Balance Breakers]] and [[YinYangBomb Holy Demonic Swords]] is a result of Michael's imperfect attempts at taking over His duties]].
* ''Literature/IncarnationsOfImmortality'': The angels (primarily Gabriel) are running things because God is off contemplating his perfection in the "Heaven of Heavens". Unfortunately, while they mean well, they aren't up to the task.
* ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'': The Valar are beings broadly similar to archangels who have been charged with being the Guardians of Arda, the physical world, by [[{{God}} Eru Ilúvatar]]. They have many traits in common with both Christian angels and mythological gods (it's believed that Creator/JRRTolkien set his cosmology up the way he did so that his devout Catholicism and love of mythology wouldn't trip over each other). While they're all good other than [[SatanicArchetype Melkor]], none of them are perfect. The Valar are, in turn served by rank-and-file angels called the Maiar. The collective term for both types of angels is Ainur. However, they are not supposed to rule Arda but guide the peoples, which is a mistake fallen Ainur make. Apparently when the Númenóreans attacked Valinor after being incited by [[ManipulativeBastard Sauron]], the Valar laid down their governance of the world, although they sent Maiar in human form to Middle-Earth to help against Sauron.
* ''Literature/SpaceTrilogy'': In ''That Hideous Strength'', the Oyeresu, "angels" in control of and personifying each of the other planets, have been forbidden to interfere with Earth, which is under the control of Satan, as {{God}} is working out his own plans for it. However, the rules also say that they're supposed to contain {{Satan}}'s influence to within the lunar orbit... which means that under the right circumstances -- like an invasion of Venus, for example -- they can strike back...



%%* The Council Of Elders from ''Series/{{Charmed|1998}}'' are this.
* On ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', only four angels have seen God; and of those four, one is Lucifer, and another is on permanent vacation masquerading as [[spoiler:the Trickster]]. The rest of the angelic host are getting their orders through the other two, and have to take it on faith that He even exists. In the Season 4 finale, Zachariah, one of the higher-up angels (or at least higher up than Castiel, Uriel, and Anna, all of whom are angelic foot soldiers), tells Dean that [[spoiler:"God has left the building."]] As of the season 5 finale: [[spoiler:the CelestialBureaucracy is in anarchy with the loss of Michael, allowing Castiel to go back and bring things to order. Also, Chuck was God's literal AuthorAvatar.]] In season six, this has escalated into a full-on civil war between angels, with more than a little spillover onto Earth.
* The ''[[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K]]''-featured short "Film/OnceUponAHoneymoon" has an apparently literal example, showing a celestial boardroom (complete with desk and PHONES) on Cloud 7.
* While implied in [[Literature/GoodOmens the original novel]] (see the Literature folder), this is much more explicitly the case in the ''Series/GoodOmens2019'' series. While Metatron is seen once acting as "the voice" of God (though Aziraphale compares this to a presidential spokesman being "the voice" of the president), we see that Gabriel is the one that Aziraphale answers to, with Michael, Uriel and Sandalphon as his lackeys, God taking a [[HaveYouSeenMyGod hands-off approach]] to managing the universe at large.
* ''Series/TheGoodPlace'': Both the Good Place and Bad Place have been run by something like angels (though not called that) and demons (who do get that name) for millennia if not longer. The closest being there is to God seems like the Judge, who's largely content letting the two sides keep running things on their own, though she eventually intervenes when the system has been shown as wholly messed up.

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%%* ''Series/Charmed1998'': The Council Of Elders from ''Series/{{Charmed|1998}}'' are this.
of Elders.
* On ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'', only ''Series/GoodOmens2019'': While implied in [[Literature/GoodOmens the original novel]], this is much more explicitly the case in the series. While Metatron is seen once acting as "the voice" of God (although Aziraphale compares this to a presidential spokesman being "the voice" of the president), Gabriel is the one that Aziraphale answers to, with Michael, Uriel and Sandalphon as his lackeys, God taking a [[HaveYouSeenMyGod hands-off approach]] to managing the universe at large.
* ''Series/TheGoodPlace'': Both the Good Place and Bad Place have been run by something like angels (although not called that) and demons (who do get that name) for millennia if not longer. The closest being there is to God seems like the Judge, who's largely content letting the two sides keep running things on their own, although she eventually intervenes when the system has been shown as wholly messed up.
* "Film/OnceUponAHoneymoon" has an apparently literal example, showing a celestial boardroom (complete with desk and phones) on Cloud 7.
* ''Series/{{Supernatural}}'': Only
four angels have seen God; and of those four, one is Lucifer, and another is on permanent vacation masquerading as [[spoiler:the Trickster]]. The rest of the angelic host are getting their orders through the other two, and have to take it on faith that He even exists. In the Season 4 finale, Zachariah, one of the higher-up angels (or at least higher up than Castiel, Uriel, and Anna, all of whom are angelic foot soldiers), tells Dean that [[spoiler:"God has left the building."]] As of the season 5 finale: [[spoiler:the CelestialBureaucracy is in anarchy with the loss of Michael, allowing Castiel to go back and bring things to order. Also, Chuck was God's literal AuthorAvatar.]] In season six, this has escalated into a full-on civil war between angels, with more than a little spillover onto Earth.
* The ''[[Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000 MST3K]]''-featured short "Film/OnceUponAHoneymoon" has an apparently literal example, showing a celestial boardroom (complete with desk and PHONES) on Cloud 7.
* While implied in [[Literature/GoodOmens the original novel]] (see the Literature folder), this is much more explicitly the case in the ''Series/GoodOmens2019'' series. While Metatron is seen once acting as "the voice" of God (though Aziraphale compares this to a presidential spokesman being "the voice" of the president), we see that Gabriel is the one that Aziraphale answers to, with Michael, Uriel and Sandalphon as his lackeys, God taking a [[HaveYouSeenMyGod hands-off approach]] to managing the universe at large.
* ''Series/TheGoodPlace'': Both the Good Place and Bad Place have been run by something like angels (though not called that) and demons (who do get that name) for millennia if not longer. The closest being there is to God seems like the Judge, who's largely content letting the two sides keep running things on their own, though she eventually intervenes when the system has been shown as wholly messed up.
Earth.



* ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'': God ''couldn't'' run things himself, because the Infinite touching the Finite would have disastrous results. Thus he created the angels to run the universe. The drawback to this was that they had a lot of time to think things over without divine supervision, eventually resulting in the Fall.



** The Court of Stars, leaders of the ChaoticGood eladrins (NamesTheSame not to be confused with 4th and 5th Edition eladrin, which are a PC race and can be of any alignment). They're more like fairy lords than angels, but embody ChaoticGood all the same.

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** The Court of Stars, leaders of the ChaoticGood eladrins (NamesTheSame but not to be confused with 4th and 5th Edition eladrin, which are a PC race of elves and can be of any alignment). They're more like fairy lords than angels, but embody ChaoticGood all the same.same.
* ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}'': ''Exalted'' has a lot of this, although not with angels ''per se''.
** This is the situation with the Primordial Autochthon. While he sleeps, his independent souls, the Divine Ministers, oversee his world-body. Trouble is, while the Ministers may all be aspects of Autochthon, they don't actually ''agree''...
** The Elemental Dragons serve the same purpose for Gaia sometimes, with most of her being out in the Wyld, but are both a lot less fractious and a lot less likely to actually DO anything.
** The gods were created to be the Council while the Primordials went off having their own fun, mostly playing the Games of Divinity. The Incarnae (the highest gods) created the Exalted to take down the Primordials and then manage Creation as a new Council so the Incarnae could play the X-Box instead. ''And then'' the Sidereals rose against the Solars and threw them down, opting to take over the Council in turn because the Solars were going mad with power. ''Exalted'' history is one big succession of revolutions as the Council decides to off its superiors or is offed itself before it can do so. Meanwhile everyone else in the CelestialBureaucracy just covers their heads and waits for the noise to die down before getting back to work ([[CorruptBureaucrat or to avoiding it]]).



** At the same time this is mildly subverted, in that Yves, one of the archangels on the Council, occasionally acts as a vessel for direct communication by God -- and may actually be ''God in disguise.'' (The fact that his illustration bears a striking resemblance to Creator/GeorgeBurns in ''Film/OhGod'' only adds to the potential confusion.)
** Another theory is that Eli, Archangel of Creation, is God in disguise. [[EpilepticTrees There's a lot of theories.]]
** The Third Edition of the French version of the game states that He is in vacation in a thermal town, somewhere in France.
* In the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness game ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'', God ''couldn't'' run things himself, because the Infinite touching the Finite would have disastrous results. Thus he created the angels to run the universe. The drawback to this was that they had a lot of time to think things over without divine supervision, eventually resulting in the Fall.
* This is the situation with the Primordial Autochthon in ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}''; while he sleeps, his subsouls, the Divine Ministers, oversee his world-body. Trouble is, while the Ministers may all be aspects of Autochthon, they don't actually ''agree''...
** The Elemental Dragons serve the same purpose for Gaia sometimes, with most of her being out in the Wyld, but are both a lot less fractious and a lot less likely to actually DO anything.
** ''Exalted'' has a lot of this. The gods were created to be the Council while the Primordials went off having their own fun, mostly playing the Games of Divinity. The Incarnae (the highest gods) created the Exalted to take down the Primordials and then manage Creation as a new Council so the Incarnae could play the X-Box instead. ''And then'' the Sidereals rose against the Solars and threw them down, opting to take over the Council in turn because the Solars were going mad with power. ''Exalted'' history is one big succession of revolutions as the Council decides to off its superiors or is offed itself before it can do so. Meanwhile everyone else in the CelestialBureaucracy just covers their heads and waits for the noise to die down before getting back to work ([[CorruptBureaucrat or to avoiding it]]).

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** At The organization of the same time this angels is mildly subverted, a fairly complex affair. Heaven is run jointly by a number of archangels, each of whom oversees a specific part of the Symphony of creation, while common angels can become aligned with sub-concepts under an archangel's purview; for instance, the Angel of Glory would answer to Michael, the Archangel of War. Angels are further divided into a number of Choirs, which form a descending hierarchy of prestige and closeness to God -- Seraphim, Cherubim, Ofanim, Elohim, Malakim, Kyriotates and Mercurians; there are also used to be the Grigori, before they got kicked out of Heaven for interbreeding with humans. The issue of the human religions is also contentious and most archangels are hesitant to claim that any one faith is the correct one, but others support specific ones -- Dominic and Laurence favor Catholicism, for instance, while Khalid champions Islam.
** The lack-of-God angle is downplayed
in that Yves, one of the archangels on the Council, occasionally acts as a vessel for direct communication by God -- and may actually be ''God in disguise.'' disguise''. (The fact that his illustration bears a striking resemblance to Creator/GeorgeBurns in ''Film/OhGod'' only adds to the potential confusion.)
**
) Another theory is that Eli, Archangel of Creation, is God in disguise. [[EpilepticTrees There's There are a lot of theories.]]
**
]] The Third Edition of the French version of the game states that He is in vacation in a thermal town, somewhere in France.
* In ''TabletopGame/{{Nobilis}}'': The Angels rule Heaven, not the TabletopGame/OldWorldOfDarkness game ''TabletopGame/DemonTheFallen'', God ''couldn't'' run things himself, because the Infinite touching the Finite would Creator, whom they have disastrous results. Thus he created the angels to run the universe. The drawback to this was only ever known through a voice in their hearts that they had a lot of time to think things over without divine supervision, eventually resulting in guides them. The Fallen (in 1e & 2e) believe that the Fall.
voice of Cneph is nothing but a lie -- perhaps the voice of Heaven itself.
* This ''TabletopGame/{{Pathfinder}}'': Generally, the Upper Planes are run jointly by a combination of Good-aligned deities and their native outsider races, although the outsiders generally shoulder the brunt of the organizing. Heaven, the LawfulGood plane, is the situation with the Primordial Autochthon in ''TabletopGame/{{Exalted}}''; while he sleeps, his subsouls, the Divine Ministers, oversee his world-body. Trouble is, while the Ministers may all be aspects of Autochthon, they don't actually ''agree''...
** The Elemental Dragons serve the same purpose for Gaia sometimes, with
most formally and rigidly organized of her being out in these, and is governed by a complex system of archon demigods alongside a few of the Wyld, but are both a lot less fractious and a lot less likely to actually DO anything.
** ''Exalted'' has a lot of this. The gods were created to be the Council while the Primordials went off having their own fun, mostly playing the Games of Divinity. The Incarnae (the highest gods) created the Exalted to take down the Primordials and then manage Creation as a new Council so the Incarnae could play the X-Box instead. ''And then'' the Sidereals rose against the Solars and threw them down, opting to take over the Council in turn because the Solars were going mad with power. ''Exalted'' history is one big succession of revolutions as the Council decides to off its superiors or is offed itself before it can do so. Meanwhile everyone else in the CelestialBureaucracy just covers their heads and waits for the noise to die down before getting back to work ([[CorruptBureaucrat or to avoiding it]]).
more politically-minded resident gods.



* The seven Continental Principalities from ''Theatre/AngelsInAmerica'': America, Africanii, Europa, Asiatica, Australia, Oceania, and Antarctica. The prophet [[spoiler:Prior]] even tells them that if {{God}} ever does come back to his rightful place, they should "sue the bastard".

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* The seven Continental Principalities from ''Theatre/AngelsInAmerica'': The seven Continental Principalities -- America, Africanii, Europa, Asiatica, Australia, Oceania, and Antarctica. The prophet [[spoiler:Prior]] even tells them that if {{God}} ever does come back to his rightful place, they should "sue the bastard".



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* ''Webcomic/TheGodsOfArrKelaan'' eventually revealed one of these.
* In ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'', heaven is a corporation of angels, with all the expected inefficiencies and {{Obstructive Bureaucrat}}s. God exists but seems to use a [[HaveYouSeenMyGod hands-off management style]], as evidenced by the fact that He by definition is aware of the misfile (unlike Rumisiel's [[PointyHairedBoss direct superiors]]) and hasn't done anything about it.
* In ''Webcomic/HolyBibble'', there is a council of archangels who occasionally gather around a table to discuss things, though more often than not it seems that the angels on the council generally make secret decisions on their own, undermining the whole system all together.
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* As a slight variation, the atheist Website/YouTube contributor NonStampCollector often portrays a Council of Angels as futilely trying to convince God ''not'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfjkl-3SNE to sow vengeance, suffering and ignorance]].
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* The setting of Sanctuary in which the ''VideoGame/{{Diablo}}'' series takes place primarily concerns a war between demons from the Burning Hells and angels from the High Heavens. The demons are led by the three Prime Evils and the four Lesser Evils, and in the final book of "The Sin War" trilogy, a council of five angels referred to as the Angiris Council decide the fate of the world after the main conflict is over. The angels, by the way, are doing a [[CrapsackWorld really lousy job]], but then they're kind of jerks anyway, the main exception being Tyrael, the archangel who cast the deciding vote for humanity to continue to exist.
* Celestia from ''VideoGame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness'' game has the angels (and in one of the MultipleEndings, the NobleDemon) praying to {{God}}; though he doesn't actually seem to live there. It's implied that there is a higher heaven (where Kurtis's dead family is); and "lower" hells. Although, to be technical, Celestia and the Netherworld aren't Heaven or Hell at all, but the Japanese concepts of Tenkai (literally "Heavenly world") and Makai (literally "Demon world") that don't have equivalents in modern Western thought.
** In the bonus chapter of the PSP remake, Volcanus tries to trick Flonne by calling out to her and ''claiming to be God''. Make of that what you will.
*** Considering [[{{Jerkass}} what a dick]] Vulcanus is [[spoiler:- being burned by the anti-evil pendant and all -]] it's probably fair to say he's not a reputable source to be listening to in terms of what might or might not be God's intentions in the series.

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* ''VideoGame/{{Darksiders}}'': Heaven is run by angels alone. A Creator is mentioned in the backstory, but it's not clear whether he's aligned with Heaven, as there are older and more powerful creatures than angels. Also, if the Twilight Cathedral is any indication, humans had an angel-worshiping religion.
* ''VideoGame/DeptHeaven'': The council of the Seven Magi rule Asgard after Ragnarok causes the gods to (apparently) die out. It's implied that there will be some second advent of the gods someday, but the Magi are there to run things until that happens. Too bad [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Hector]] is one of the Magi and his six fellows don't seem to be on to him. Interestingly, the Magi all seem to belong to the ''humanoid'' race living in Asgard--and they rule over the angels.
* ''VideoGame/{{Diablo}}'':
The setting of Sanctuary in which the ''VideoGame/{{Diablo}}'' series takes place primarily concerns a war between demons from the Burning Hells and angels from the High Heavens. The demons are led by the three Prime Evils and the four Lesser Evils, and in the final book of "The Sin War" trilogy, a council of five angels referred to as the Angiris Council decide the fate of the world after the main conflict is over. The angels, by the way, are doing a [[CrapsackWorld really lousy job]], but then they're kind of jerks anyway, the main exception being Tyrael, the archangel who cast the deciding vote for humanity to continue to exist.
* ''VideoGame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness'': Celestia from ''VideoGame/DisgaeaHourOfDarkness'' game has the angels (and in one of the MultipleEndings, the NobleDemon) praying to {{God}}; though {{God}}, although he doesn't actually seem to live there. It's implied that there is a higher heaven (where heaven, where Kurtis's dead family is); is, and "lower" hells. Although, to be technical, Celestia and the Netherworld aren't Heaven or Hell at all, but the Japanese concepts of Tenkai (literally "Heavenly world") and Makai (literally "Demon world") that don't have equivalents in modern Western thought.
**
thought. In the bonus chapter of the PSP remake, Volcanus tries to trick Flonne by calling out to her and ''claiming to be God''. Make of that what you will.
*** Considering [[{{Jerkass}} what a dick]] Vulcanus * ''VideoGame/FallFromHeaven'': The Creator of Erebus is [[spoiler:- nowhere in sight. Everything is run by angels, who call themselves gods. Most of the problems for the mortals are due to the interference of the angels.
* ''VideoGame/LeagueOfAngels'' has something like this, with the plot [[ExcusePlot (such as it is)]]
being burned that demonic forces have turned the game world into a HellOnEarth and locked the Angels away; the heroes' goal as he progresses through it is to release them and restore the Council's power as he does so.
* ''VideoGame/{{Lusternia}}'': Five extradimensional angelic beings, the Supernals, are worshipped
by the anti-evil pendant Celestine Guild: [[BarrierWarrior Shakiniel the Defender]], [[ThePollyanna Raziela the Pure]], [[KnightInShiningArmor Methrenton the Crusader]], [[EccentricMentor Japhiel the Wise]], and all -]] it's probably fair to say he's not a reputable source to be listening to in terms [[TheParagon Elohora the Noble]].
* ''VideoGame/NexusClash'': The creator deity is impersonal and amoral, so the angelic side is run by one
of what these instead. It's composed of an overzealous holy warrior, and all-loving earthmother figure and an angelic personification of compromise and cooperation. As might or might not be God's intentions imagined from their cosmic portfolios, they don't always agree on which course of action would best serve the greater Good.
* ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'':
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI'' and ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', there's a Council of Angels who do most of the work on the Law side. In ''II'' they go from potential allies to pure villains. [[GodIsEvil God himself is even worse]], just less willing to get personally involved unless he has to, and him and the Angels have a strained relationship between the games.
** ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'' also has a small council of Angels working
in the series.containment zone, but they're a little bit nicer than ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'''s Angels. That's because instead of the four main Seraphs (Michael, Uriel, Gabriel and Raphael) there's a lower angel who ''isn't'' a {{Knight Templar}} of the worst kind: Remiel, Angel of Hope and Compassion.
** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'': [[spoiler:The Three Wise Men]] take this role, [[spoiler:taking the opportunity provided by the Schwarzwelt to initiate their own plans for an eternal kingdom of the Lawful God. They "graciously" give the Protagonist and his crew access to the Demon Summoning Program so they do their dirty work.]]
** ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'': [[spoiler:The Four Archangels]] fill this role, even having another angel disagree with their judgements. [[spoiler:They want to create a new race of people who are free from the capacity for selfish actions, and Mastema wants to let humans stay as they are.]]



* In the VideoGame/DeptHeaven series, the council of the Seven Magi rule Asgard after Ragnarok causes the gods to (apparently) die out. It's implied that there will be some second advent of the gods someday, but the Magi are there to run things until that happens. Too bad [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Hector]] is one of the Magi and his six fellows don't seem to be on to him. Interestingly, the Magi all seem to belong to the ''humanoid'' race living in Asgard--and they rule over the angels.
* The Strategy RPG ''League of Angels'' has something like this, with the plot [[ExcusePlot (such as it is)]] being that demonic forces have turned the game world into a HellOnEarth and locked the Angels away; the heroes' goal as he progresses through it is to release them and restore the Council's power as he does so.
* In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI'' and ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', there's a Council of Angels who do most of the work on the Law side. In II they go from potential allies to pure villains. [[GodIsEvil God himself is even worse]], just less willing to get personally involved unless he has to. And him and the Angels have a strained relationship between the games.
** ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'' also has a small council of Angels working in the containment zone, but they're a little bit nicer than ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'''s Angels. That's because instead of the four main Seraphs (Michael, Uriel, Gabriel and Raphael) there's a lower angel who ''isn't'' a {{Knight Templar}} of the worst kind: Remiel, Angel of Hope and Compassion.
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'', [[spoiler:the Three Wise Men]] take this role, [[spoiler:taking the opportunity provided by the Schwarzwelt to initiate their own plans for an eternal kingdom of the Lawful God. They "graciously" give the Protagonist and his crew access to the Demon Summoning Program so they do their dirty work.]]
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'', [[spoiler:the Four Archangels]] fill this role, even having another angel disagree with their judgements. [[spoiler:They want to create a new race of people who are free from the capacity for selfish actions, and Mastema wants to let humans stay as they are.]]
* In the ''VideoGame/FallFromHeaven'' mod for ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}} IV'', the Creator of Erebus is nowhere in sight. Everything is run by angels, who call themselves gods. Most of the problems for the mortals are due to the interference of the angels.
* In ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'', [[spoiler:the Angels/Producers are the ones who run the Reapers' Game from behind the scenes. They rank even higher than the ''Composer'', who is portrayed in-game as an allegory for God/Christ Himself.]]
* The creator-deity in ''VideoGame/NexusClash'' is impersonal and amoral, so the angelic side is run by one of these instead. It's composed of an overzealous holy warrior, and all-loving earthmother figure and an angelic personification of compromise and cooperation. As might be imagined from their cosmic portfolios, they don't always agree on which course of action would best serve the greater Good.

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* In the VideoGame/DeptHeaven series, the council of the Seven Magi rule Asgard after Ragnarok causes the gods to (apparently) die out. It's implied that there will be some second advent of the gods someday, but the Magi are there to run things until that happens. Too bad [[VillainWithGoodPublicity Hector]] is one of the Magi and his six fellows don't seem to be on to him. Interestingly, the Magi all seem to belong ''VideoGame/{{Ultrakill}}'': According to the ''humanoid'' race living in Asgard--and they rule over the angels.
* The Strategy RPG ''League of Angels'' has something like this, with the plot [[ExcusePlot (such as it is)]] being that demonic forces have turned the game world into a HellOnEarth
lore entry for Gabriel, King Minos [[spoiler:and his soul]], and locked the Angels away; the heroes' goal as he progresses through it is to release them and restore the Council's power as he does so.
* In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI'' and ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', there's a Council of Angels who do most of the work on the Law side. In II they go from potential allies to pure villains. [[GodIsEvil God himself is even worse]], just less willing to get personally involved unless he has to. And him and the Angels have a strained relationship between the games.
** ''VideoGame/DevilSurvivor'' also has a small council of Angels working
in the containment zone, but they're a little bit nicer than ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'''s Angels. That's because instead of the four main Seraphs (Michael, Uriel, Gabriel and Raphael) there's a lower angel who ''isn't'' a {{Knight Templar}} of the worst kind: Remiel, Angel of Hope and Compassion.
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney'', [[spoiler:the Three Wise Men]] take this role, [[spoiler:taking the opportunity provided by the Schwarzwelt to initiate their own plans
end cutscene for an eternal kingdom of the Lawful God. They "graciously" give the Protagonist and his crew access to the Demon Summoning Program so they do their dirty work.]]
** In ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiIV'', [[spoiler:the Four Archangels]] fill this role, even having another angel disagree with their judgements. [[spoiler:They want to create a new race of people who are free from the capacity for selfish actions, and Mastema wants to let humans stay as they are.]]
* In the ''VideoGame/FallFromHeaven'' mod for ''VideoGame/{{Civilization}} IV'', the Creator of Erebus is nowhere in sight. Everything
Act I, Heaven is run by angels, who call themselves gods. Most of the problems for the mortals are due to the interference of the angels.
such a council. If Minos Prime's lore is any indication, this is because [[spoiler: ''[[HaveYouSeenMyGod God has flat out vanished]]'']].
* In ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'', [[spoiler:the ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'': [[spoiler:The Angels/Producers are the ones who run the Reapers' Game from behind the scenes. They rank even higher than the ''Composer'', who is portrayed in-game as an allegory for God/Christ Himself.]]
* The creator-deity in ''VideoGame/NexusClash'' is impersonal and amoral, so the angelic side is run by one of these instead. It's composed of an overzealous holy warrior, and all-loving earthmother figure and an angelic personification of compromise and cooperation. As might be imagined from their cosmic portfolios, they don't always agree on which course of action would best serve the greater Good.
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* ''Webcomic/{{Misfile}}'': Heaven is a corporation of angels, with all the expected inefficiencies and {{Obstructive Bureaucrat}}s. God exists but seems to use a [[HaveYouSeenMyGod hands-off management style]], as evidenced by the fact that He by definition is aware of the misfile (unlike Rumisiel's [[PointyHairedBoss direct superiors]]) and hasn't done anything about it.
''Webcomic/HolyBibble'': There is a council of archangels who occasionally gather around a table to discuss things, though more often than not it seems that the angels on the council generally make secret decisions on their own, undermining the whole system all together.
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* As a slight variation, the atheist Website/YouTube contributor [=NonStampCollector=] often portrays a Council of Angels as futilely trying to convince God ''not'' [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOfjkl-3SNE to sow vengeance, suffering and ignorance]].
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* This is the entire concept of the manga / anime ''Manga/AngelSanctuary'', and it's a [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cosmology]] out there...
* In the Creator/{{CLAMP}} manga ''Manga/{{Wish}}'', the various Angels are running around terrified that God is going to punish the various characters and themselves for stuff they've done. Surprising for a Japanese depiction, when God does make his opinions known, he's a [[GodIsGood decent guy]].
* The [[PowerTrio Three Great Angels]], Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon featured in ''Anime/DigimonFrontier'' and other ''Franchise/{{Digimon}}'' related media. The trio ruled the Digital World after [[SatanicArchetype Lucemon's fall]] and guard over God's Law, Wisdom, and love.

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* %%* ''Manga/AngelSanctuary'': This is the entire concept of the manga / anime ''Manga/AngelSanctuary'', series, and it's a [[CrapsackWorld Crapsack Cosmology]] out there...
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* ''Anime/DigimonFrontier'': The [[PowerTrio Three Great Angels]], Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon, ruled
the Digital World after [[SatanicArchetype Lucemon's fall]] and guard over God's Law, Wisdom, and love.
* ''Manga/{{Wish}}'': The
various Angels are running around terrified that God is going to punish the various characters and themselves for stuff they've done. Surprising for a Japanese depiction, when God does make his opinions known, he's a [[GodIsGood decent guy]].
* The [[PowerTrio Three Great Angels]], Seraphimon, Ophanimon, and Cherubimon featured in ''Anime/DigimonFrontier'' and other ''Franchise/{{Digimon}}'' related media. The trio ruled the Digital World after [[SatanicArchetype Lucemon's fall]] and guard over God's Law, Wisdom, and love.
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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' has never had true gods per se, but it has plenty of angels. Both the settings Bant and Serra's Realm were ruled by a Council of Angels.
** However, with the lack of gods comes with a lack of divine origin for the angels; they are in all cases sapient constructs of white mana.
** The player's position is that of a planeswalker, which may be a human ascended to world-shattering power or some kind of inhuman force of purpose (such as whatever drives Phyrexia). So in a sense, the players are competing gods. Just crappy squabbling ones.
** The closest the setting has to a true god is Gaea, the will of Dominaria itself. And even then there is in-universe debate as to whether Gaea is a true god, another planeswalker, or an ascended being not unlike Yawgmoth. Yawgmoth even believed Gaea was really his former lover Rebbec.

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* ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'' has never had true ''TabletopGame/MagicTheGathering'': Angels appeared in the game long before gods per se, but it has plenty did, and even in modern lore panels are strictly devoted to White, the color of angels. law, order, and community, while gods can and do range across all color alignments. Thus, angels are often depicted as managing their own affairs. Both the settings Bant and Serra's Realm were ruled by a Council of Angels.
** However, with
Angels. With the lack of connection to gods comes with also a lack of divine origin for the angels; they are in all cases sapient constructs of white mana.
** The player's position is that of a planeswalker, which may be a human ascended to world-shattering power or some kind of inhuman force of purpose (such as whatever drives Phyrexia). So in a sense, the players are competing gods. Just crappy squabbling ones.
** The closest the setting has to a true god is Gaea, the will of Dominaria itself. And even then there is in-universe debate as to whether Gaea is a true god, another planeswalker, or an ascended being not unlike Yawgmoth. Yawgmoth even believed Gaea was really his former lover Rebbec.
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Oh, even with God around, don't expect them to clear up whether Judaism, Christianity or Islam is right; often they're not sure themselves. If they do know, there seems to be [[GodlySidestep an unspoken rule against telling anyone.]] It's also not uncommon for different angels to have different viewpoints on the nature of "good", often associated with human viewpoints.

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Oh, even with God around, don't expect them to clear up whether Judaism, Christianity or Islam is right; often they're not sure themselves. themselves, or may be be divided over which religion to support. If they do know, there seems to be [[GodlySidestep an unspoken rule against telling anyone.]] anyone]]. It's also not uncommon for different angels to have different viewpoints on the nature of "good", often associated with human viewpoints.
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The problem with {{God}} is that His given definition is one of [[StoryBreakerPower omnipo]][[TheOmnipotent tence]] and [[GodIsGood benevolence]]. This can make it tricky to depict Heaven, especially if you want to add some [[RageAgainstTheHeavens grey]] in there, or make sure that TheLegionsOfHell are actually a threat. So we go down in Cosmic Denominators.

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** ''Exalted'' has a lot of this. The gods were created to be the Council while the Primordials went off having their own fun, mostly playing the Games of Divinity ([[FanNickname aka the Cosmic X-Box]]). The Incarnae (the highest gods) created the Exalted to take down the Primordials and then manage Creation as a new Council so the Incarnae could play the X-Box instead. ''And then'' the Sidereals rose against the Solars and threw them down, opting to take over the Council in turn because the Solars were going mad with power. ''Exalted'' history is one big succession of revolutions as the Council decides to off its superiors or is offed itself before it can do so. Meanwhile everyone else in the CelestialBureaucracy just covers their heads and waits for the noise to die down before getting back to work ([[CorruptBureaucrat or to avoiding it]]).

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** ''Exalted'' has a lot of this. The gods were created to be the Council while the Primordials went off having their own fun, mostly playing the Games of Divinity ([[FanNickname aka the Cosmic X-Box]]).Divinity. The Incarnae (the highest gods) created the Exalted to take down the Primordials and then manage Creation as a new Council so the Incarnae could play the X-Box instead. ''And then'' the Sidereals rose against the Solars and threw them down, opting to take over the Council in turn because the Solars were going mad with power. ''Exalted'' history is one big succession of revolutions as the Council decides to off its superiors or is offed itself before it can do so. Meanwhile everyone else in the CelestialBureaucracy just covers their heads and waits for the noise to die down before getting back to work ([[CorruptBureaucrat or to avoiding it]]).
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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' (prior to 4th ed, which changed a lot around) had not one, but three councils ruling the three races of celestials:

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* ''TabletopGame/DungeonsAndDragons'' (prior to 4th ed, Edition, which changed a lot around) had not one, but three councils ruling the three main races of celestials:celestials. It should be noted that there are definitely Good deities around in the various settings, who can have their abodes in the Upper Planes alongside these celestials. It's just that those goodly gods and goddesses are usually concerned with a specific divine portfolio, and worshipers on particular worlds, while the various celestial groups are more concerned about their alignment in general and defending their home plane. They are:



** Talisid and the Five Companions, paragons of the NeutralGood guardinals.
** The Court of Stars, leaders of the ChaoticGood eladrins (NamesTheSame not to be confused with 4th edition eladrin, which are a PC race and can be of any alignment). They're more like fairy lords than angels, but embody ChaoticGood all the same.

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** Talisid and the Five Companions, paragons of the NeutralGood guardinals.
guardinals. They're described as a sort of epic-level adventuring party, roaming Elysium looking for wrongs to right.
** The Court of Stars, leaders of the ChaoticGood eladrins (NamesTheSame not to be confused with 4th edition and 5th Edition eladrin, which are a PC race and can be of any alignment). They're more like fairy lords than angels, but embody ChaoticGood all the same.
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* ''Literature/CradleSeries'': The Judges of the Abidan Court come off like this, ruling over all the [[AlternateUniverse Iterations]] and protecting them from Chaos. Lesser Abidan are powerful enough on their own, but the Judges are without a doubt the most powerful entities in all of creation. If there is a single God above them, they are unaware. The closest was Adriel, the original creator of the Abidan, who could create Iterations outright (instead of having to stitch them together out of pieces). [[HaveYouSeenMyGod He disappeared long ago]].

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* The Council Of Elders from ''Series/{{Charmed|1998}}'' are TheLowestCosmicDenominator of this.

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See also GodIsEvil, HaveYouSeenMyGod, CrystalDragonJesus, TheLowestCosmicDenominator, and their usual leaders, CelestialParagonsAndArchangels. The opposite number of DemonLordsAndArchdevils.

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* ''Series/TheGoodPlace'': Both the Good Place and Bad Place have been run by something like angels (though not called that) and demons (who do get that name) for millennia if not longer. The closest being there is to God seems like the Judge, who's largely content letting the two sides keep running things on their own, though she eventually intervenes when the system has been shown as wholly messed up.
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* While implied in [[Literature/GoodOmens the original novel]] (see the Literature folder), this is much more explicitly the case in the ''Series/GoodOmens2019'' series. While Metatron is seen once acting as "the voice" of God (though Aziraphale compares this to a presidential spokesman being "the voice" of the president), we see that Gabriel is the one that Aziraphale answers to, with Michael, Uriel and Sandalphon as his lackeys, God taking a [[HaveYouSeenMyGod hands-off approach]] to managing the universe at large.
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* The Valar from ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' are archangels who have been charged with being the Guardians of Arda, the physical world. They have many traits in common with both Christian angels and mythological gods (it's believed that Creator/JRRTolkien set his cosmology up the way he did so that his devout Catholicism and love of mythology wouldn't trip over each other), and while they're all good other than [[SatanicArchetype Melkor]], none of them are perfect and some have made mistakes. The Valar are in turn served by rank-and-file angels called the Maiar. The collective term for both types of angels is Ainur. However they are not supposed to rule Arda but guide the peoples, which is a mistake fallen Ainur make. Apparently when the Numenoreans attacked Valinor after being incited by [[ManipulativeBastard Sauron]], the Valar laid down their governance of the world, though they sent Maiar in human form to Middle-Earth to help against Sauron.

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* The Valar from ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' are archangels who have been charged with being the Guardians of Arda, the physical world. They have many traits in common with both Christian angels and mythological gods (it's believed that Creator/JRRTolkien set his cosmology up the way he did so that his devout Catholicism and love of mythology wouldn't trip over each other), and while other). While they're all good other than [[SatanicArchetype Melkor]], none of them are perfect and some have made mistakes.perfect. The Valar are in turn served by rank-and-file angels called the Maiar. The collective term for both types of angels is Ainur. However they are not supposed to rule Arda but guide the peoples, which is a mistake fallen Ainur make. Apparently when the Numenoreans attacked Valinor after being incited by [[ManipulativeBastard Sauron]], the Valar laid down their governance of the world, though they sent Maiar in human form to Middle-Earth to help against Sauron.
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* The Valar from ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' are angels who have been charged with being the Guardians of Arda, the physical world. They have many traits in common with both Christian angels and mythological gods (it's believed that Creator/JRRTolkien set his cosmology up the way he did so that his devout Catholicism and love of mythology wouldn't trip over each other), and while they're all good (with [[GodOfEvil one notable exception]]), none of them are perfect and some have made mistakes. The Valar are in turn served by lesser angels/demigods called the Maiar. The collective term is Ainur. However they are not supposed to rule Arda but guide the peoples, which is a mistake fallen Ainur make. Apparently when the Numenoreans after being incited by [[ManipulativeBastard Sauron]] attacked Valinor, the Valar laid down their governance of the world, though they sent Maiar in human form to Middle-Earth to help against Sauron.

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* The Valar from ''Literature/TheSilmarillion'' are angels archangels who have been charged with being the Guardians of Arda, the physical world. They have many traits in common with both Christian angels and mythological gods (it's believed that Creator/JRRTolkien set his cosmology up the way he did so that his devout Catholicism and love of mythology wouldn't trip over each other), and while they're all good (with [[GodOfEvil one notable exception]]), other than [[SatanicArchetype Melkor]], none of them are perfect and some have made mistakes. The Valar are in turn served by lesser angels/demigods rank-and-file angels called the Maiar. The collective term for both types of angels is Ainur. However they are not supposed to rule Arda but guide the peoples, which is a mistake fallen Ainur make. Apparently when the Numenoreans attacked Valinor after being incited by [[ManipulativeBastard Sauron]] attacked Valinor, Sauron]], the Valar laid down their governance of the world, though they sent Maiar in human form to Middle-Earth to help against Sauron.

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