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* AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents: When we meet Honor's mother, the first words out of her mouth are an observation of how nice a butt Honor's executive officer has, and telling Honor she needs to tap that. And she does that kind of thing ''all the time''. Ironically, she is considered a bit of a prude on her home planet.
** Due to her being [[HappilyMarried decidedly]] ''monogamous''.

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* AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents: When we meet Honor's mother, the first words out of her mouth are an observation of how nice a butt Honor's executive officer has, and telling Honor she needs to tap that. And she does that kind of thing ''all the time''. Ironically, she is considered a bit of a prude on her home planet.
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planet, due to her being [[HappilyMarried decidedly]] ''monogamous''.
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** On the other hand securing a tank bay during the assault on Camp Inferno in ''Echoes of Honor'' was a crucial step that allowed the liberated [=POWs=] take the whole compound and deny StateSec goons movement and access to the PowerArmor storage. So it's probably changes DependingOnTheAuthor and, anywas, this being a Navy-based series we simply don't see that many tanks around.

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** On the other hand securing a tank bay during the assault on Camp Inferno in ''Echoes of Honor'' was a crucial step that allowed the liberated [=POWs=] take the whole compound and deny StateSec goons movement and access to the PowerArmor storage. So it's probably changes DependingOnTheAuthor and, anywas, anyway, this being a Navy-based series we simply don't see that many tanks around.
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** On the other hand securing a tank bay during the assault on Camp Inferno in ''Echoes of Honor'' was a crucial step that allowed the liberated [=POWs=] take the whole compound and deny StateSec goons movement and access to the PowerArmor storage. So it's probably changes DependingOnTheAuthor and, anywas, this being a Navy-based series we simply don't see that many tanks around.
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* TanksForNothing: Tanks have generally been phased out due to PowerArmor becoming widespread in modern militaries. One of the short stories in the ''Worlds of Honor'' {{Anthology}} series features tanks, but they are stated to only be useful becaues the planet they are on has little in the way of a modern military force. [[spoiler: One of the characters is killed using a tank in a duel against a [[DeathFromAbove Havenite shuttle]], though the shuttle is destroyed as well.]]
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** At one point in ''Flag in Exile'', the Peep missiles being used are said to be able to accelerate to a maximum velocity of about 60,000 kps relative to the ship that launched it, at which point their drives will burn out. That's a delta-v budget of 0.2''c''. Yet at another point in this same engagement, the claim is made that if the launching ships are incoming at 0.8''c'', their missiles will have a burnout speed of 0.99''c''. Unfortunately, that close to the speed of light, speeds don't add together in such a straightforward fashion. A missile going 0.8''c'' would, if it accelerated by another 0.2''c'' in its own reference frame, have a final speed of 0.862''c'', not 0.99''c''. (TimeDilation is a factor from one perspective; relativistic mass is a factor from another.) In order to accelerate from 0.8''c'' to 0.99''c'', a missile would have to accelerate to 0.913''c'' relative to the launching ship, which represents a delta-v of over '''673,000''' kps as viewed from its own reference frame.

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** At one point in ''Flag in Exile'', the Peep missiles being used are said to be able to accelerate to a maximum velocity of about 60,000 kps relative to the ship that launched it, at which point their drives will burn out. That's a delta-v budget of 0.2''c''. Yet at another point in this same engagement, the claim is made that if the launching ships are incoming at 0.8''c'', their missiles will have a burnout speed of 0.99''c''. Unfortunately, [[UsefulNotes/{{Relativity}} that close to the speed of light, light]], speeds don't add together in such a straightforward fashion. A missile going 0.8''c'' would, if it accelerated by another 0.2''c'' in its own reference frame, have a final speed of 0.862''c'', not 0.99''c''. (TimeDilation is a factor from one perspective; relativistic mass is a factor from another.) In order to accelerate from 0.8''c'' to 0.99''c'', a missile would have to accelerate to 0.913''c'' relative to the launching ship, which represents a delta-v of over '''673,000''' kps as viewed from its own reference frame.
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* OperationBlank: Manticoran op names are randomly assigned, which gives us gems like Operations Buttercup, Cutworm, and Lunch Basket. Haven tends to favor grandiose names like Operations Icarus, Pegasus, and Thunderbolt. So far Solarian naval ops favor the poetic, like Operations East Wind and Winter Forage, while Mesan covert ops favor very direct names like Operation Rat Poison and Operation [[TrojanHorse Wooden Horse]].

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* GetOutOfJailFreeCard: Kevin Usher, head of Haven's FIA, asks for and receives a presidential pardon for any crimes one of his agents commits in running a "black" investigation of possible treason by [[SwissMessenger Secretary of State Giancola]].



* GreyAndGrayMorality: Although it is not evident in the first book, by the second book we get the first sympathetic Havenite characters, and the series has been trending this way since then, with Manticore as the LighterShadeOfGrey. By the beginning of ''War of Honor'', the two sides are both in about the same place in terms of morality, and it looks as though they will be teaming up in the future against Mesa.

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* GreyAndGrayMorality: Although it is not evident in the first book, by the second book we get the first sympathetic Havenite characters, and the series has been trending this way since then, with Manticore as the LighterShadeOfGrey.ALighterShadeOfGrey. By the beginning of ''War of Honor'', the two sides are both in about the same place in terms of morality, and it looks as though they will be teaming up in the future against Mesa.



** At one point in ''HonorAmongEnemies'', Honor enjoys a Horatio Hornblower novel.

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** At one point in ''HonorAmongEnemies'', ''Honor Among Enemies'', Honor enjoys a Horatio Hornblower novel.
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A compromise in which the allusion is preserved without implying the unknowable, in-universe reason behind it.


* {{Realpolitik}}: The dominant foreign policy of the Andermani Empire.

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* {{Realpolitik}}: The dominant foreign policy of the Andermani Empire. Another way in which they [[FantasyCounterpartCulture resemble Prussia]].
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Found the chapter.


** At one point, Honor enjoys a Horatio Hornblower novel.

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** At one point, point in ''HonorAmongEnemies'', Honor enjoys a Horatio Hornblower novel.
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Not the trope


* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: An antagonist's chances of survival are directly proportional to how he or she feels about Honor personally. If you are looking at a Havenite officer that respects her as a fellow officer, rest assured they will survive to see the next novel. If you are looking at a Havenite officer, or even Manticoran Alliance member, that derides her [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain gender, motives, or commoner origins]], they are going down via LaserGuidedKarma. [[spoiler:Except Javier Giscard, which was just a low blow to not only the Havenite Navy but Eloise Pritchart as well.]]
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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: An antagonist's chances of survival are directly proportional to how he or she feels about Honor personally. If you are looking at a Havenite officer that respects her as a fellow officer, rest assured they will survive to see the next novel. If you are looking at a Havenite officer, or even Manticoran Alliance member, that derides her [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain gender, motives, or commoner origins]], they are going down via LaserGuidedKarma.

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* ProtagonistCenteredMorality: An antagonist's chances of survival are directly proportional to how he or she feels about Honor personally. If you are looking at a Havenite officer that respects her as a fellow officer, rest assured they will survive to see the next novel. If you are looking at a Havenite officer, or even Manticoran Alliance member, that derides her [[PoliticallyIncorrectVillain gender, motives, or commoner origins]], they are going down via LaserGuidedKarma. [[spoiler:Except Javier Giscard, which was just a low blow to not only the Havenite Navy but Eloise Pritchart as well.]]

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Yes, it\'s the intelligence boosts that lead to the sociopathy, but the primary modifications (Including the complete point of the Meyerdahl line) was physical adjustments. Also, this note already says it\'s a key trait of the Andies, but we don\'t know if it\'s because they\'re sticking to their past, or if that\'s simply how they chose to run their country now


* BewareTheSuperman: Earth's devastating Final War was fought by SuperSoldiers with intelligence boosts that all too frequently had the side-effect of increased aggression and sociopathic tendencies. As explained in ''Ashes of Victory'', it's difficult to tinker with one aspect of intelligence without trading off in other areas. The aftermath of that war is the main reason in the series for Luddism and prejudice against genetic engineering.
** The Harrington family's Meyerdahl Beta line is a rare exception, and so is the Winton line, probably. However, Honor, her father, and Queen Elizabeth all have terrible tempers. The former two are just far harder to push over the line, but Honor suspects her own killer instinct is linked to her modifications.

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* BewareTheSuperman: Earth's devastating Final War was fought by SuperSoldiers with drastic adjustments to their physiology for increased combat capability. In addition to their physical modifications it was also attempted to increase their intelligence boosts to similar levels, but that all too frequently had the side-effect of increased aggression and sociopathic tendencies. As explained in ''Ashes of Victory'', it's difficult to tinker with This was one aspect of intelligence without trading off in other areas. The aftermath of that war is the main reason in for the series for Luddism and prejudice against genetic engineering.
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engineering in the Honorverse, including concerns over mental stability even in adjustment lines unconnected to intellect. Honor herself, a descendant of the Meyerdahl Beta line is a rare exception, designed to adjust humans for life on high-gravity worlds, fears that her temper and so is the Winton line, probably. However, Honor, lethal abilities stem from her father, and Queen Elizabeth all have terrible tempers. The former two are just far harder to push over the line, but Honor suspects her own killer instinct is linked to her genetic modifications.



* {{Realpolitik}}: The dominant foreign policy of the Andermani Empire, a lingering effect of their founder's obsession with Prussia.

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* {{Realpolitik}}: The dominant foreign policy of the Andermani Empire, a lingering effect of their founder's obsession with Prussia.Empire.
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** When Honor is captured by [=StateSec=] in ''In Enemy Hands'' she is placed through psychological torture (With isolation, malnurishment, full-body searches and lack of sleep) that eventually ''does'' defeat her sense of duty to the Navy and Queen. However, she does not give up becuase she realizes that, even if she cannot rely on her external duty at this point, she has a duty to ''herself'' to resist [=StateSec=], even if nobody outside her own cell ever learns of it.
** [[spoiler:Albrecht Detweiler]] is unknown to the galaxy at large, his enemies and even most of his ''allies''. His plans will not come to fruition until long after he is dead, at which point he wll ''still'' be unknown as figureheads make all the public moves. However, despite the fact that he will never even be acknowledged as existing, he follows through on his plans because he believes they are the right thing to do. [[EvilVirtues Too bad he is the villain]].

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** When Honor is captured by [=StateSec=] in ''In Enemy Hands'' she is placed through psychological torture (With (with isolation, malnurishment, malnourishment, full-body searches and lack of sleep) that eventually ''does'' defeat her sense of duty to the Navy and Queen. However, she does not give up becuase because she realizes that, even if she cannot rely on her external duty at this point, she has a duty to ''herself'' to resist [=StateSec=], even if nobody outside her own cell ever learns of it.
** [[spoiler:Albrecht Detweiler]] is unknown to the galaxy at large, his enemies enemies, and even most of his ''allies''. His plans will not come to fruition until long after he is dead, at which point he wll will ''still'' be unknown as figureheads make all the public moves. However, despite the fact that he will never even be acknowledged as existing, he follows through on his plans because he believes they are the right thing to do. [[EvilVirtues Too bad he is the villain]].
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It\'s an important characterization trait of the Andies.


* {{Realpolitik}}: The dominant foreign policy of the Andermani Empire.

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* {{Realpolitik}}: The dominant foreign policy of the Andermani Empire.Empire, a lingering effect of their founder's obsession with Prussia.

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Please reread \'\'Ashes of Victory\'\', chapter 17, in which Allison Harrington explicitlity states that intelligence boosts were the cause for sociopathy in Old Earth\'s super soldiers.


* BewareTheSuperman: Earth's devastating Final War was fought by SuperSoldiers with physical boosts that all too frequently had the side-effect of increased aggression and sociopathic tendencies. This was one of the main reason for the prejudice against genetic engineering in the Honorverse.

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* BewareTheSuperman: Earth's devastating Final War was fought by SuperSoldiers with physical intelligence boosts that all too frequently had the side-effect of increased aggression and sociopathic tendencies. This was tendencies. As explained in ''Ashes of Victory'', it's difficult to tinker with one aspect of intelligence without trading off in other areas. The aftermath of that war is the main reason in the series for the Luddism and prejudice against genetic engineering in engineering.
** The Harrington family's Meyerdahl Beta line is a rare exception, and so is
the Honorverse.Winton line, probably. However, Honor, her father, and Queen Elizabeth all have terrible tempers. The former two are just far harder to push over the line, but Honor suspects her own killer instinct is linked to her modifications.
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David Weber [[http://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2255 recently announced]] that a [[TheFilmOfTheBook movie]] deal has been closed.

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David Weber [[http://forums.davidweber.net/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2255 recently announced]] announced on 27-Sept-2011]] that a [[TheFilmOfTheBook movie]] deal has been closed.
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Yes, summer planets


** May planetary systems have themes: the Lovat system's planets Forge, Furnace, Anvil; the Spindle system's planet Flax and capital city Thimble; etc.

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** May Many planetary systems have themes: the Lovat system's planets Forge, Furnace, Anvil; the Spindle system's planet Flax and capital city Thimble; etc.
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--> "Sweet Tester [...] each of them thinks no one in the world -- ''including each other'' -- can tell what's going on. They actually believe that.

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--> "Sweet Sweet Tester [...] each of them thinks no one in the world -- ''including each other'' -- can tell what's going on. They actually believe that.



** A few other planetary systems have themes: the Lovat system's planets Forge, Furnace, Anvil and Spindle's planet Flax and capital city Thimble for example.

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** A few other May planetary systems have themes: the Lovat system's planets Forge, Furnace, Anvil and Spindle's Anvil; the Spindle system's planet Flax and capital city Thimble for example.Thimble; etc.
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** All of Manticore's system planets (and each of their first-gen [=CLACs=]) are named after mythological monsters. Their primary shipyards are named after various smithing gods.

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** All of Manticore's system planets (and each of their first-gen [=CLACs=]) are named after mythological monsters. Their primary shipyards are named after various smithing gods. Their ship classes also largely owe names to Greek mythology; see the Nike- and Agamemnon-class battlecruisers, the Medusa-class podlayer superdreadnought...
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* EveryoneCanSeeIt: The relationship between [[spoiler:Honor and Hamish]] by ''War of Honor''.
--> "Sweet Tester [...] each of them thinks no one in the world -- ''including each other'' -- can tell what's going on. They actually believe that.
--> Idiots.
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** [[spoiler:Albrecht Detweiler]] is unknown to the galaxy at large, his enemies and even most of his ''allies''. His plans will not come to fruition until long after he is dead, at which point he wll ''still'' be unknown as figureheads make all the public moves. However, despite the fact that he will never even be acknolwedged as existing, he follows through on his plans because he believes they are the right thing to do. [[EvilVirtues Too bad he is the villain]].

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** [[spoiler:Albrecht Detweiler]] is unknown to the galaxy at large, his enemies and even most of his ''allies''. His plans will not come to fruition until long after he is dead, at which point he wll ''still'' be unknown as figureheads make all the public moves. However, despite the fact that he will never even be acknolwedged acknowledged as existing, he follows through on his plans because he believes they are the right thing to do. [[EvilVirtues Too bad he is the villain]].
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* HufflepuffHouse: Matapan, the Midgard Federation, and the Asgard Association. They appear on maps in the first few books ([[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness with Matapan called Mazapan]]), but we know nothing about them beyond a minor blurb in ''The Short Victorious War'' and a handful of infodumps that mention the Matapan terminus by Weber.

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* WhatYouAreInTheDark:
** When Honor is captured by [=StateSec=] in ''In Enemy Hands'' she is placed through psychological torture (With isolation, malnurishment, full-body searches and lack of sleep) that eventually ''does'' defeat her sense of duty to the Navy and Queen. However, she does not give up becuase she realizes that, even if she cannot rely on her external duty at this point, she has a duty to ''herself'' to resist [=StateSec=], even if nobody outside her own cell ever learns of it.
** [[spoiler:Albrecht Detweiler]] is unknown to the galaxy at large, his enemies and even most of his ''allies''. His plans will not come to fruition until long after he is dead, at which point he wll ''still'' be unknown as figureheads make all the public moves. However, despite the fact that he will never even be acknolwedged as existing, he follows through on his plans because he believes they are the right thing to do. [[EvilVirtues Too bad he is the villain]].



* TheWindyCity: Chicago is the capital of the [[TheFederation Solarian League]], and is the setting for the novella ''From The Highlands'', which introduced not only Victor Cachat, but quite a few of the major players in the novel ''Crown of Slaves''.

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* TheWindyCity: Chicago is the capital of the [[TheFederation Solarian League]], and is the setting for the novella ''From The Highlands'', which introduced not only Victor Cachat, but Cachat and quite a few of the major players in the novel ''Crown of Slaves''.



** In ''On Basilisk Station'', [[spoiler: the drug-crazed Medusan natives try to do this. It does not work for them thanks to Manticoran air support, but they manage to horribly kill some {{Mauve Shirt}}s first.]]

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** In ''On Basilisk Station'', [[spoiler: the drug-crazed Medusan natives try to do this. It does not work for them thanks to Manticoran air support, but they manage to horribly kill some {{Mauve {{Red Shirt}}s first.]]
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I think you missed the point of all the mods, these were PHYSICAL boosts (Musculature, stamina, etc.), and there are many successful branches for different purposes, they\'re just a lot more subtle and minor than the Super Soldier adjustments


* BewareTheSuperman: Earth's devastating Final War was fought by SuperSoldiers with intelligence boosts that all too frequently had the side-effect of increased aggression and sociopathic tendencies. This is the main reason for Luddism and prejudice against genetic engineering. The Harrington family's Meyerdahl Beta line is one of the few successful lines to boost intelligence without creating amoral monsters, but even Honor is aware that her own killer instinct may be linked to it. It's worth noting also that the Winton family line are genies who probably have intelligence boosts, and Elizabeth is infamous for a volcanic and implacable temper.

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* BewareTheSuperman: Earth's devastating Final War was fought by SuperSoldiers with intelligence physical boosts that all too frequently had the side-effect of increased aggression and sociopathic tendencies. This is was one of the main reason for Luddism and the prejudice against genetic engineering. The Harrington family's Meyerdahl Beta line is one of engineering in the few successful lines to boost intelligence without creating amoral monsters, but even Honor is aware that her own killer instinct may be linked to it. It's worth noting also that the Winton family line are genies who probably have intelligence boosts, and Elizabeth is infamous for a volcanic and implacable temper.Honorverse.



* {{Realpolitik}}: The dominant foreign policy of the Andermani Empire. Unsurprising since they've modeled themselves after Prussia, the state which made the term famous during the unification of Germany.

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* {{Realpolitik}}: The dominant foreign policy of the Andermani Empire. Unsurprising since they've modeled themselves after Prussia, the state which made the term famous during the unification of Germany.
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* BewareTheSuperman: Earth's devastating Final War was fought by SuperSoldiers with intelligence boosts that all too frequently had the side-effect of increased aggression and sociopathic tendencies. This is the main reason for Luddism and prejudice against genetic engineering. The Harrington family's Meyerdahl Beta line is one of the few successful lines to boost intelligence without creating amoral monsters, but even Honor is aware that her own killer instinct may be linked to it. It's worth noting also that the Winton family line are genies who probably have intelligence boosts, and Elizabeth is infamous for a volcanic and implacable temper.
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* BeatThemAtTheirOwnGame: The new Manticoran Eighth Fleet's job is to conduct deep raids in response to the Peeps repeatedly doing that.

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* INeedAFreakingDrink: Elizabeth's first thought upon entering a meeting with [[spoiler:President Pritchart and her cabinet]] in ''Mission of Honor'' is that she needs a whiskey. She does not, however, mention this to anyone else.



* InSeriesNickname: All of the star nations are given nicknames for their peoples. Star Kingdom of Manticore = Manties, People's Republic of Haven = Peeps, Andermani Empire = Andies, Solarian League = Sollies, and the poor members of the Silesian Confederacy get called Sillies.

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* InSeriesNickname: All of the star nations are given nicknames for their peoples. Star Kingdom of Manticore = Manties, People's Republic of Haven = Peeps, Andermani Empire = Andies, Solarian League = Sollies, and the poor members of the Silesian Confederacy get called Sillies.Sillies (or, more respectfully, Confeds).
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* TalkingIsAFreeAction: Well, thinking in your head is. Characters will regularly break in the middle of a conversation to reflect on paragraphs or ''pages'' of inner monologue / InfoDump. Rarely does this get acknowledged as an actual pause in the conversation.

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