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** As mentioned above; in a later cutscene, when Harley eventually does let Ivy out, what happens? Ivy slinks out as calm as you please, apparently without a care in the world, purrs that she's much better, blows Harley a kiss and struts away. While she probably does sense what the Titan is doing to the plants on some level and isn't happy about it, Ivy's "suffering" was just her playing possum to get someone to let her out. Had he tried to enlist her help, Ivy would almost certainly have tried to twist it to her advantage and lead Batman into a trap of some kind. Batman was right not to trust her.


* Wait, [[spoiler:how the hell did the Batmobile get through the locked doors to plow into Bane after his fight? And why are the doors still there after Bane's gone? Shouldn't they be open or blown away?]]

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* Wait, [[spoiler:how how the hell did the Batmobile get through the locked doors to plow into Bane after his fight? And why are the doors still there after Bane's gone? Shouldn't they be open or blown away?]]away?



* Here is a good one: [[spoiler:the whole Project Titan. It begins with Doctor Young trying to make weak inmates stronger so that they can endure the "treatments" administered to them. This already raise some ''questions'' as to what kind of ''psychological'' treatment would require such measures. Then, Young experiments on Bane, of all people. The dude who was part of a SuperSoldier project, because his Venom formula is exactly what she needs. That's right, to survive treatments in Arkham, you need to be an ultra muscular 15 foot tall behemoth...and it only get worse from here.]]
** [[spoiler: Ah, but this is actually a FridgeBrilliance moment. Listen to the Spirit of Arkham tapes again and you'll notice how the spirit mentions he's found a young doctor who's akin to him... i.e., a certain Dr Young. From that to conclude that she's a sadistic monster, despite her change of heart, well... and she isn't experimenting on Bane, she's extracting the Venom from his body so that she can create Titan.]]
*** [[spoiler:Considering the BreatherBoss died because he used an early version of Titan, it would make sense she'd want to refine it. However it becomes clear that she wants no part of it, once she realizes the danger of the drug.]]
** The real question is [[spoiler:what is the logic behind Dr. Young's development of the Titan formula? When Batman analyzes it, he discovers that it revolves around making the venom chemical so potent that it can cause a Bane-like transformation without a huge tank. When you consider what Titan's purpose is supposed to be (i.e. making patients stronger so that they can handle more strenuous treatments), wouldn't it make more sense to create a watered-down version of venom that would make weak inmates just a little stronger, as opposed to a tiny amount turning them into hulking monsters? I'm not entirely sure of what the thought process is behind this medicine.]]
*** [[spoiler:It isn't meant to be that strong a formula. The first test subject you fight is one of the Joker's first test runs with his adapted version of the formula. If you listen to the audio tapes, she's stopped working on Titan before the games even begins.]]
*** [[spoiler: The Joker's an accomplished chemist, so, chances are, after he'd gotten the "base" formula from Young, he fiddled with it himself to increase its potency.]]

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* Here is a good one: [[spoiler:the the whole Project Titan. It begins with Doctor Young trying to make weak inmates stronger so that they can endure the "treatments" administered to them. This already raise some ''questions'' as to what kind of ''psychological'' treatment would require such measures. Then, Young experiments on Bane, of all people. The dude who was part of a SuperSoldier project, because his Venom formula is exactly what she needs. That's right, to survive treatments in Arkham, you need to be an ultra muscular 15 foot tall behemoth...and it only get worse from here.]]
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** [[spoiler: Ah, but this is actually a FridgeBrilliance moment. Listen to the Spirit of Arkham tapes again and you'll notice how the spirit mentions he's found a young doctor who's akin to him... i.e., a certain Dr Young. From that to conclude that she's a sadistic monster, despite her change of heart, well... and she isn't experimenting on Bane, she's extracting the Venom from his body so that she can create Titan.]]
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*** [[spoiler:Considering Considering the BreatherBoss died because he used an early version of Titan, it would make sense she'd want to refine it. However it becomes clear that she wants no part of it, once she realizes the danger of the drug.]]
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** The real question is [[spoiler:what what is the logic behind Dr. Young's development of the Titan formula? When Batman analyzes it, he discovers that it revolves around making the venom chemical so potent that it can cause a Bane-like transformation without a huge tank. When you consider what Titan's purpose is supposed to be (i.e. making patients stronger so that they can handle more strenuous treatments), wouldn't it make more sense to create a watered-down version of venom that would make weak inmates just a little stronger, as opposed to a tiny amount turning them into hulking monsters? I'm not entirely sure of what the thought process is behind this medicine.]]
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*** [[spoiler:It It isn't meant to be that strong a formula. The first test subject you fight is one of the Joker's first test runs with his adapted version of the formula. If you listen to the audio tapes, she's stopped working on Titan before the games even begins.]]
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*** [[spoiler: The Joker's an accomplished chemist, so, chances are, after he'd gotten the "base" formula from Young, he fiddled with it himself to increase its potency.]]



* Here's a big one: [[spoiler:How the hell did Riddler hide all those trophies? Seriously, they're hidden behind walls, metal grates, on miniature islands outside the batcave, and generally placed in spots that require Batman to use the full extent of his multi-thousand dollar costume and gadgets, but a spindly little prick like Riddler was able to hide them with what he could get from Arkham?]]
** Remember how in the Riddler's first interview [[spoiler: he was revealed to have been beaten by his father for allegedly cheating? This happened in the comics too, but it was more regular than implied in the interview and more because Edward's father was jealous of his son's genius intellect. This caused him to compulsively reveal any deceit he makes, it just so happens that riddles also tied into his childhood and he can get around his impulse to tell the truth by leaving a riddle because if solved it does expose the truth.]]
** One of his [[AllThereInTheManual interview-tapes]] suggests that [[spoiler:Joker'd let Riddler in on his plot. It's possible that Riddler's part in events was to [[JustifiedTrope slow Batman down through]] [[PlotCoupon making puzzles for him]] in order to give Joker extra time to set everything up.]]

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* Here's a big one: [[spoiler:How How the hell did Riddler hide all those trophies? Seriously, they're hidden behind walls, metal grates, on miniature islands outside the batcave, and generally placed in spots that require Batman to use the full extent of his multi-thousand dollar costume and gadgets, but a spindly little prick like Riddler was able to hide them with what he could get from Arkham?]]
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** Remember how in the Riddler's first interview [[spoiler: he was revealed to have been beaten by his father for allegedly cheating? This happened in the comics too, but it was more regular than implied in the interview and more because Edward's father was jealous of his son's genius intellect. This caused him to compulsively reveal any deceit he makes, it just so happens that riddles also tied into his childhood and he can get around his impulse to tell the truth by leaving a riddle because if solved it does expose the truth.]]
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** One of his [[AllThereInTheManual interview-tapes]] suggests that [[spoiler:Joker'd Joker'd let Riddler in on his plot. It's possible that Riddler's part in events was to [[JustifiedTrope slow Batman down through]] [[PlotCoupon making puzzles for him]] in order to give Joker extra time to set everything up.]]



** Moreover, [[spoiler: why the hell would Riddler hide maps that show the locations of his riddles? Theoretically, one could argue that it's because he wants to prove that you can't solve the riddles without hints, but even if you do collect them, he still goes into a berserk rage and accuses Batman of cheating when the police arrive to haul his ass away.]]
*** The answer is [[spoiler: because he has to. Seriously. It's part of his obsessive-compulsive disorder. He literally ''has to'' leave the clues to his riddles where someone can find them. In fact there's an old Batman comic where the Riddler tries to commit crimes without leaving clues and riddles for Batman to find, and he discovers he ''just can't do it''. It would be like Adrian Monk trying to ''not'' wipe his hands after he shakes hands with someone or trying to ''not'' touch every parking meter as he walks down the street. He can't. He's compelled to. Almost ''obsessively'' compelled, you might say...]]
*** Alternatively; [[spoiler: the maps aren't for Batman's benefit, they're for the Riddler's. It's quite clear that, for all the Riddler's taunts and boasting , he's not nearly as smart as he likes to think he is, and not nearly as smart as Batman. He creates and hides the maps to remind him where he's previously put a riddle / trophy or where he's found a secret message so he doesn't accidentally double-up.]]
** Because he's insane? Part of that insanity is that his compulsive need to create riddles and clues because he believes he's so smart that even with said clues, no one can figure it out. That's precisely why [[spoiler: his ending is the way it is. He simply cannot believe that someone -could- figure out his supposedly enigmas. It also ties into his backstory via the interviews - he won a school trivia contest or some other contest involving high intelligence... by -cheating-. If he - the Riddler - had to cheat for stuff he himself thinks are enigmas, things he believes to be enigmas to others then -must- also be solved by cheating. A bunch of Insane Troll Logic sure but again... he's insane.]]

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** Moreover, [[spoiler: why the hell would Riddler hide maps that show the locations of his riddles? Theoretically, one could argue that it's because he wants to prove that you can't solve the riddles without hints, but even if you do collect them, he still goes into a berserk rage and accuses Batman of cheating when the police arrive to haul his ass away.]]
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*** The answer is [[spoiler: because he has to. Seriously. It's part of his obsessive-compulsive disorder. He literally ''has to'' leave the clues to his riddles where someone can find them. In fact there's an old Batman comic where the Riddler tries to commit crimes without leaving clues and riddles for Batman to find, and he discovers he ''just can't do it''. It would be like Adrian Monk trying to ''not'' wipe his hands after he shakes hands with someone or trying to ''not'' touch every parking meter as he walks down the street. He can't. He's compelled to. Almost ''obsessively'' compelled, you might say...]]
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*** Alternatively; [[spoiler: the maps aren't for Batman's benefit, they're for the Riddler's. It's quite clear that, for all the Riddler's taunts and boasting , he's not nearly as smart as he likes to think he is, and not nearly as smart as Batman. He creates and hides the maps to remind him where he's previously put a riddle / trophy or where he's found a secret message so he doesn't accidentally double-up.]]
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*** Ultimately, the maps are more a tool for the player than either of the characters; there's a thin layer of justification in calling it a "Riddler Map" and having the Riddler gloat a bit when you find one, but really it's simply so that the player doesn't have to run around for countless hours trying to find riddles without any clue whatsoever and making the whole sub-quest a joyless grind.
** Because he's insane? Part of that insanity is that his compulsive need to create riddles and clues because he believes he's so smart that even with said clues, no one can figure it out. That's precisely why [[spoiler: his ending is the way it is. He simply cannot believe that someone -could- figure out his supposedly enigmas. It also ties into his backstory via the interviews - he won a school trivia contest or some other contest involving high intelligence... by -cheating-. If he - the Riddler - had to cheat for stuff he himself thinks are enigmas, things he believes to be enigmas to others then -must- also be solved by cheating. A bunch of Insane Troll Logic sure but again... he's insane.]]



** The explosive gel is used to blast objects on the side opposite its own. This is why an Explosive Gel takedown requires a wall between it and the mooks. So when Batman [[spoiler:gelled up his hand and punched Titan Joker with it, wouldn't ''Batman'' take the worst of the attack, not Joker?]]
*** [[spoiler: In a way, he did. After the scene, you'll notice that Batman's arm is hanging limp at his side, which almost certainly means he broke it. I.e., Joker received a punch, to the face, with enough power to break bones. Good thing he was in super mode, else he'd be dead!]]

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** The explosive gel is used to blast objects on the side opposite its own. This is why an Explosive Gel takedown requires a wall between it and the mooks. So when Batman [[spoiler:gelled gelled up his hand and punched Titan Joker with it, wouldn't ''Batman'' take the worst of the attack, not Joker?]]
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*** [[spoiler: In a way, he did. After the scene, you'll notice that Batman's arm is hanging limp at his side, which almost certainly means he broke it. I.e., Joker received a punch, to the face, with enough power to break bones. Good thing he was in super mode, else he'd be dead!]]dead!



* Am I the only one who was disappointed at seeing Ivy in the boss fight? Given that she was [[spoiler:injected with Titan, I was actually expecting her to look like the Hulked-out superheroines in the current World War Hulks storyline (i.e. tall, thick, and with even more exaggerated curves than what was already there). And yes, I know that it "affected her differently", but still, I'm rather disappointed by that.]]

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* Am I the only one who was disappointed at seeing Ivy in the boss fight? Given that she was [[spoiler:injected injected with Titan, I was actually expecting her to look like the Hulked-out superheroines in the current World War Hulks storyline (i.e. tall, thick, and with even more exaggerated curves than what was already there). And yes, I know that it "affected her differently", but still, I'm rather disappointed by that.]]



** Also, a minor quibble with the first reply to this question. The Titan formula wasn't designed to boost superpowers, it was implied to have been designed [[spoiler: to help patients withstand "therapy" by exposing them to a modified strain of Bane's Venom to enhance their physical capabilities. "Therapy" such as electroshock therapy or even worse therapy that would kill normal people.]] See [[http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Penelope_Young this link]] and scroll down to the Trivia section to see why [[spoiler: Dr. Young]] believed this would work. [[spoiler: Basically, she thought the patients' genetics had to be stronger to deal with her "treatment". Dr. Young has issues.]]

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** Also, a minor quibble with the first reply to this question. The Titan formula wasn't designed to boost superpowers, it was implied to have been designed [[spoiler: to help patients withstand "therapy" by exposing them to a modified strain of Bane's Venom to enhance their physical capabilities. "Therapy" such as electroshock therapy or even worse therapy that would kill normal people.]] See [[http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Penelope_Young this link]] and scroll down to the Trivia section to see why [[spoiler: Dr. Young]] Young believed this would work. [[spoiler: Basically, she thought the patients' genetics had to be stronger to deal with her "treatment". Dr. Young has issues.]]



*** Not to mention the fact that the general public doesn't know about the marzipan and kittens. The cops would still have to deal with the mass hysteria in Gotham. Batman said as much to Gordon after beating Bane. Which makes [[spoiler: Two-Face's bank robbery at the end much easier to accomplish.]]

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*** Not to mention the fact that the general public doesn't know about the marzipan and kittens. The cops would still have to deal with the mass hysteria in Gotham. Batman said as much to Gordon after beating Bane. Which makes [[spoiler: Two-Face's bank robbery at the end much easier to accomplish.]]



** Nah. [[spoiler: You see Clayface in his cell after Gordon goes back to Gotham.]]

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** Nah. [[spoiler: You see Clayface in his cell after Gordon goes back to Gotham.]]



** Maybe Joker wanted to dose both Batman and himself the whole time? It'd explain why he just stops chasing Bats and sicks henchmen on you; [[spoiler:he got bored, sent them in to wear you down, and decided to take you down himself once you shocked him with the generators.]]

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** Maybe Joker wanted to dose both Batman and himself the whole time? It'd explain why he just stops chasing Bats and sicks henchmen on you; [[spoiler:he he got bored, sent them in to wear you down, and decided to take you down himself once you shocked him with the generators.]]



* Why doesn't Batman [[JustShootHim Just Batarang Joker]] in a few cutscenes? I know the justification for the elevator scene (it might have sent Joker falling to his death...not that Batman couldn't CATCH him, but that's beside the point), but Batman's face-to-face with Joker in several other scenes. The one that really got me was the cutscene preceding the time you fight a [[spoiler: real Titan mook. Or rather a pair of them.]]. Joker is RIGHT THERE, with only two, easily-dispatchable [[spoiler: untransformed]] mooks between you and him. Batarang or Batclaw Joker right then and there, and boom, game over.

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* Why doesn't Batman [[JustShootHim Just Batarang Joker]] in a few cutscenes? I know the justification for the elevator scene (it might have sent Joker falling to his death...not that Batman couldn't CATCH him, but that's beside the point), but Batman's face-to-face with Joker in several other scenes. The one that really got me was the cutscene preceding the time you fight a [[spoiler: real Titan mook. Or rather a pair of them.]]. Joker is RIGHT THERE, with only two, easily-dispatchable [[spoiler: untransformed]] untransformed mooks between you and him. Batarang or Batclaw Joker right then and there, and boom, game over.



* Why didn't Batman try to turn Ivy *against* the Joker when he first encounters her? She BEGS for his help because her 'babies' are in pain (presumably from being experimented on by the Joker), and, instead of taking this golden opportunity to pit a villain with actual superpowers (who he can, nonetheless, easily take down later) against the Joker, Batman is just a dick to her, and it ends up biting him in the ass later when she [[spoiler:gets Titan'd]]. It really shows an uncharacteristic lack of planning on Batman's part.

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* Why didn't Batman try to turn Ivy *against* the Joker when he first encounters her? She BEGS for his help because her 'babies' are in pain (presumably from being experimented on by the Joker), and, instead of taking this golden opportunity to pit a villain with actual superpowers (who he can, nonetheless, easily take down later) against the Joker, Batman is just a dick to her, and it ends up biting him in the ass later when she [[spoiler:gets Titan'd]].gets Titan'd. It really shows an uncharacteristic lack of planning on Batman's part.



** Still. How much effort would it have taken to humour her and say, "Sure, Ivy. Tell me where those flowers are and I'll try to help them out. Or at least not step on them." It's not like he had to actually ''follow through''.[[note]]Although he [[TakeYourTime has time]] to [[SidetrackedByTheGoldSaucer track down]] Riddler's non-lethal puzzles, so why the hell not save some plants while he's at it?[[/note]] Every ''other'' villain in this damn place is on the loose, you'd think that taking a very simple precaution against ''one'' of them hating his guts and being out for his blood once she inevitably escapes would at least be a consideration. Also, if he had been a little nicer, [[spoiler:he may not have had to strangle one of her "babies" to get her to help him]], thus ''royally'' pissing her off. Nice move, genius.

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** Still. How much effort would it have taken to humour her and say, "Sure, Ivy. Tell me where those flowers are and I'll try to help them out. Or at least not step on them." It's not like he had to actually ''follow through''.[[note]]Although he [[TakeYourTime has time]] to [[SidetrackedByTheGoldSaucer track down]] Riddler's non-lethal puzzles, so why the hell not save some plants while he's at it?[[/note]] Every ''other'' villain in this damn place is on the loose, you'd think that taking a very simple precaution against ''one'' of them hating his guts and being out for his blood once she inevitably escapes would at least be a consideration. Also, if he had been a little nicer, [[spoiler:he he may not have had to strangle one of her "babies" to get her to help him]], him, thus ''royally'' pissing her off. Nice move, genius.



** If you listen to the Spirit of Arkham messages: Someone ''did'' try it. [[spoiler: Warden Sharp]] They failed - Joker was ready for them. He was ready for a someone able to [[spoiler:order the guards and doctors away, and approach him in his cell, alone.]] What makes you think the Joker is defenseless?

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** If you listen to the Spirit of Arkham messages: Someone ''did'' try it. [[spoiler: Warden Sharp]] Sharp They failed - Joker was ready for them. He was ready for a someone able to [[spoiler:order order the guards and doctors away, and approach him in his cell, alone.]] alone. What makes you think the Joker is defenseless?



*** Because that would mean pissing off Harley [[spoiler: and as 'Harley Quinn's Revenge' shows she is way more dangerous and brutal after Joker dies, (she's able to capture Batman and nearly kill him!)]] And even without her, Joker himself has a surprisingly loyal gang in this continuity who would likely try to avenge him which would convince any average person or cop who wants to kill the Joker that, they might not live very long afterwards if they succeeded.
*** Same poster as above: Having seen Assault on Arkham, I have another reason why people wouldn't kill the Joker besides being terrified of him: They probably think he can't be killed at all, [[spoiler: He was trapped in a falling helicopter that exploded when it hit the ground and Batman didn't have time to save him and yet he came back perfectly fine.]] You can chalk that up to Joker Immunity, but that alone would probably convince people that any attempt they make to kill Joker would not only fail, it would turn them into his next target (would you really want to be Joker's target?).

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*** Because that would mean pissing off Harley [[spoiler: and as 'Harley Quinn's Revenge' shows she is way more dangerous and brutal after Joker dies, (she's able to capture Batman and nearly kill him!)]] him!) And even without her, Joker himself has a surprisingly loyal gang in this continuity who would likely try to avenge him which would convince any average person or cop who wants to kill the Joker that, they might not live very long afterwards if they succeeded.
*** Same poster as above: Having seen Assault on Arkham, I have another reason why people wouldn't kill the Joker besides being terrified of him: They probably think he can't be killed at all, [[spoiler: He was trapped in a falling helicopter that exploded when it hit the ground and Batman didn't have time to save him and yet he came back perfectly fine.]] fine. You can chalk that up to Joker Immunity, but that alone would probably convince people that any attempt they make to kill Joker would not only fail, it would turn them into his next target (would you really want to be Joker's target?).



* The third time you get [[spoiler:all hopped up on Scarecrow toxin, Batman's hallucinations get a little... odd.]] The first two times, they centered around [[spoiler:Batsy's immediate fear for Gordon's life, plus his lingering guilt issues and trauma over the Waynes' murder.]] Par for the course. The third time, however, [[spoiler:all the hallucinations seem to imply that he's afraid he, himself, is insane.]] The Joker and Harley [[spoiler:haul him into Arkham. We see numerous crazy Batmen. Scarface even calls him a "classic case of multiple personality".]] Now, I admit that I'm not ''especially'' well-versed in Batman canon, but this is the first time I've ever seen Bruce presented as [[spoiler:even having his own disturbed nature give him a moment's pause - much less fear that he is or will turn into a crackpot.]] He always seems quite assured that [[spoiler:what he is doing is perfectly rational,]] shrugging it off completely should anyone tell him otherwise, even disregarding it when people like Alfred and Leslie question whether dressing up like a cute fuzzy critter and punching people is healthy. So what's up with the seemingly sudden [[spoiler:fears for his mental state?]]

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* The third time you get [[spoiler:all all hopped up on Scarecrow toxin, Batman's hallucinations get a little... odd.]] The first two times, they centered around [[spoiler:Batsy's Batsy's immediate fear for Gordon's life, plus his lingering guilt issues and trauma over the Waynes' murder.]] murder. Par for the course. The third time, however, [[spoiler:all all the hallucinations seem to imply that he's afraid he, himself, is insane.]] insane. The Joker and Harley [[spoiler:haul haul him into Arkham. We see numerous crazy Batmen. Scarface even calls him a "classic case of multiple personality".]] Now, I admit that I'm not ''especially'' well-versed in Batman canon, but this is the first time I've ever seen Bruce presented as [[spoiler:even even having his own disturbed nature give him a moment's pause - much less fear that he is or will turn into a crackpot.]] crackpot. He always seems quite assured that [[spoiler:what what he is doing is perfectly rational,]] rational, shrugging it off completely should anyone tell him otherwise, even disregarding it when people like Alfred and Leslie question whether dressing up like a cute fuzzy critter and punching people is healthy. So what's up with the seemingly sudden [[spoiler:fears fears for his mental state?]]state?



** Plus it turns out at the end that the point of the whole game has been about Batman and that. If he gives in the Joker wins. [[spoiler: which fits in nicely with the first scare, where he fails and lets Gordon die. This time he fails and lets the Joker show how the supergood vigilante is no different from an insane criminal]]
** A lot of the game is based on the comic "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth". In that comic [[spoiler: the theme of Batman's sanity]] is definitely explored.

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** Plus it turns out at the end that the point of the whole game has been about Batman and that. If he gives in the Joker wins. [[spoiler: which Which fits in nicely with the first scare, where he fails and lets Gordon die. This time he fails and lets the Joker show how the supergood vigilante is no different from an insane criminal]]
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** A lot of the game is based on the comic "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth". In that comic [[spoiler: the theme of Batman's sanity]] sanity is definitely explored.



** The grave belongs to Amadeus Arkham, there's a [[spoiler:riddle to be solved by scanning the grave]]. Considering the [[spoiler:revelation that Quincy Sharpe carries the spirit of Amadeus Arkham within himself, it's possible that part of this process involved him, in a fit of madness, digging up the grave to see the body, or something similar]]

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** The grave belongs to Amadeus Arkham, there's a [[spoiler:riddle riddle to be solved by scanning the grave]]. grave. Considering the [[spoiler:revelation revelation that Quincy Sharpe carries the spirit of Amadeus Arkham within himself, it's possible that part of this process involved him, in a fit of madness, digging up the grave to see the body, or something similar]]similar



* The cutscene leading into the FinalBoss sees Batman taking a dart full of Titan for Gordan, but manages to avoid transforming into a [[HulkingOut massive monster]] thanks to his famous HeroicWillpower. But... That doesn't really make sense... It would make sense for Batman to resist the PsychoSerum part of the Titan chemical, just as he's able to resist Scarecrow's Fear Toxin. But no amount of willpower can resist, let alone prevent, your physical body from transforming. That's just not how things work; unless a given transformation is directly influenced by the mind, which can't be the case for Titan since it's a chemical formula created specifically to make people physically stronger, your body '''will''' be altered no matter what the mind says. The only thing that should stop Batman's body from growing huge to the point of the ''muscles and spine ripping through the skin and exposing themselves'' would be a chemical compound that counteracts Titan: something that Batman actually does create late in the story, but doesn't see fit to use it on himself when infected with Titan [[spoiler: I know Ivy slapped the antidote out of his hand when he attempted to use it on her, but it wasn't made clear that it fell down a BottomlessPit and Batman ended up not needing to use it on her anyway, so he still should've had the antidote on his person]]. So, what? Does Batman have an impossible level of control over his entire physical self?

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* The cutscene leading into the FinalBoss sees Batman taking a dart full of Titan for Gordan, but manages to avoid transforming into a [[HulkingOut massive monster]] thanks to his famous HeroicWillpower. But... That doesn't really make sense... It would make sense for Batman to resist the PsychoSerum part of the Titan chemical, just as he's able to resist Scarecrow's Fear Toxin. But no amount of willpower can resist, let alone prevent, your physical body from transforming. That's just not how things work; unless a given transformation is directly influenced by the mind, which can't be the case for Titan since it's a chemical formula created specifically to make people physically stronger, your body '''will''' be altered no matter what the mind says. The only thing that should stop Batman's body from growing huge to the point of the ''muscles and spine ripping through the skin and exposing themselves'' would be a chemical compound that counteracts Titan: something that Batman actually does create late in the story, but doesn't see fit to use it on himself when infected with Titan [[spoiler: I know Ivy slapped the antidote out of his hand when he attempted to use it on her, but it wasn't made clear that it fell down a BottomlessPit and Batman ended up not needing to use it on her anyway, so he still should've had the antidote on his person]].person. So, what? Does Batman have an impossible level of control over his entire physical self?

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*** This the origin of the cape from ''Film/BatmanBegins''. It's presumably a bit of a ShoutOut / part of the Arkhamverse's nature as an AdaptationDistillation.

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** If nothing else, ''Arkham City'' depicts the Penguin as someone who has his own fair share of psychological issues, including violent sadism. In this universe, it is highly likely that he's been an inmate of Arkham at some point.

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** Also, while Batman might not shoot guns himself he often investigates people who have. If he's, say, investigating a sniper (Deadshot, for example), he can work backwards and use the bullet drop compensator in his scope to get an approximate idea at least of how far away the sniper was shooting from.


** The Riddler's a pompous egomaniac incredulously watching Batman solve a whole bunch of puzzles he'd thought were unsolvable. He's clutching at straws to salvage his pride, basically.



** Not to mention, as someone else pointed out above, we're just demanding that Batman do ''everything'' aren't we? Not only is he supposed to catch all the criminals, not only do we frequently criticise him for not funding all of Gotham's educational and welfare programs to completely eradicate crime, now he's supposed to personally run the jails and asylums and monitor the criminals as well. Batman doesn't imprison the Joker because ''that's not his job''; to paraphrase Shawn Spencer from ''Series/{{Psych}}'', the actual authorities really do have to start chipping in at ''some'' point.

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** Not to mention, as someone else pointed out above, we're just demanding that Batman do ''everything'' aren't we? Not only is he supposed to catch all the criminals, not only do we frequently criticise him for not funding all of Gotham's educational and welfare programs to completely eradicate crime, now he's supposed to personally run the jails and asylums and monitor the criminals as well. Batman doesn't imprison the Joker because ''that's not his job''; to paraphrase Shawn Spencer from ''Series/{{Psych}}'', the actual authorities really do have to start chipping in at ''some'' point.point in this whole process.

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* There's something that appears to have been easily ignored or overlooked in all this. When Batman first encounters Ivy, she's howling and screaming about the plants suffering, yes. Same when Harley encounters her. But when Harley actually lets Ivy out, what does Ivy do? Stroll out of the cell as calmly as you please, purr "''Much'' better," blow Harley a kiss and stroll off without an apparent care in the world. Apparently her pain and suffering was instantly cured the second someone let her out of her cell. While she might not have been lying about being affected by what the Joker was doing to the plants in some way, it almost certainly ''wasn't'' affecting her as badly as she was claiming. She was playing [[WoundedGazelleGambit Wounded Gazelle]] to get someone to let her out. Batman was entirely right to regard her with distrust and ignore what she was saying.

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** Given the general level of decay and neglect on Arkham Island, it's likely that the graveyard was disrupted by something -- a previous escape attempt, an earthquake or some similar phenomenon, etc. -- that has caused the graves to be pushed up and exposed, and no one's really been bothered to do anything to fix it up.


** In game, it's less that he can't and more that he just doesn't. As far as he's concerned for most of the game, he has no reason to scan the Joker -- either it's a mannequin, or the Joker's put a TV on his head for some reason. Either way, he's got bigger fish to try at that point. Out of the game, the writers wanted to give the player at least ''one'' surprise twist that Detective Mode couldn't spoil.

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** In game, it's less that he can't and more that he just doesn't. As far as he's concerned for most of the game, he has no reason to scan the Joker -- either since it's probably just a mannequin. In any case, all that Detective Vision would tell him would be if it was a human, in which case he might just assume it's a mannequin, or dead body that the Joker's put a TV on his head for some reason. Either way, dolled up (no shortage of them that night). And besides which, he's usually got bigger fish some other pressing matter to try be taking care of at that point. Out point, like a hostage to rescue or something. The opportunities to the enter the Visitor's Centre before the end are usually when Batman's making his way from one part of the island to another to find a hostage who is in immediate peril or some potentially time-sensitive crisis, and even if he was to accost Joker at that point, Joker would just remind him that okay, he can waste time beating him up all he wants, but Commissioner Gordon is going to get iced or something. Outside of the game, the writers wanted to give the player at least ''one'' surprise twist that Detective Mode couldn't spoil.

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** Not to mention, as someone else pointed out above, we're just demanding that Batman do ''everything'' aren't we? Not only is he supposed to catch all the criminals, not only do we frequently criticise him for not funding all of Gotham's educational and welfare programs to completely eradicate crime, now he's supposed to personally run the jails and asylums and monitor the criminals as well. Batman doesn't imprison the Joker because ''that's not his job''; to paraphrase Shawn Spencer from ''Series/{{Psych}}'', the actual authorities really do have to start chipping in at ''some'' point.


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** In game, it's less that he can't and more that he just doesn't. As far as he's concerned for most of the game, he has no reason to scan the Joker -- either it's a mannequin, or the Joker's put a TV on his head for some reason. Either way, he's got bigger fish to try at that point. Out of the game, the writers wanted to give the player at least ''one'' surprise twist that Detective Mode couldn't spoil.

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** ...What? Didn't Bats use the antidote on himself once Joker brought him up to the roof? Joker tells him, "Change, go crazy! It's the only way to beat me!" Batman refuses, injects the antidote into his chest, and Joker replies, "You used the antidote on ''yourself?'' Now that's funny!" and then tosses him away, thus beginning the final battle.

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** Titan is not Venom. Batman remarks after the fight that Bane was more aggressive and less stable than usual. Part of that can be attributed to his treatment by Dr Young, but considering how everyone else who gets shot up with Titan turns into a snarling, feral beast, it's not surprising that Bane loses his usual rationality and relative composure.


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** Basically, yeah. He's the poster boy for being a {{Determinator}}. He routinely ignores or resists extremely painful injuries or mental attacks by virtue of his Iron Will.


* Why is the Batwing so loud? In the comics, it's got a stealth mode that's depicted as so silent that it could hover right above you and you wouldn't notice, as well as having an intimidation mode that is used to scare enemies into submission through its engine's thunderous roar. I don't get why Batman would have its engines running at full noise level if there's no one to intimidate after the botanical gardens Titan fight. Or is it that there's no stealth mode on that one? Or is it just to create a very epic CrowningMomentOfAwesome for the Batwing?

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* Why is the Batwing so loud? In the comics, it's got a stealth mode that's depicted as so silent that it could hover right above you and you wouldn't notice, as well as having an intimidation mode that is used to scare enemies into submission through its engine's thunderous roar. I don't get why Batman would have its engines running at full noise level if there's no one to intimidate after the botanical gardens Titan fight. Or is it that there's no stealth mode on that one? Or is it just to create a very epic CrowningMomentOfAwesome SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome for the Batwing?

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** IIRC Cash was in a room with several armed mooks and he himself had no weapons to speak of (besides his hook). If he were to escape he probably would've gotten himself of the other hostage killed.

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** She kinda had other things to deal with. Once she knew he was on the boat back, she probably assumed that he'd be back safely and didn't bother to keep that close of an eye on things, given everything else that was going on.

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