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** A similar one to the above can also be said by the captain, only this time by drinking caragor blood, to no one's surprise the result is the same.
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** So it's ''literally'' [[JustForPun Insane Troll Logic?]]

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* In a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M17yXQYkhYg new trailer]], we see Talion and Celebrimbor's first meeting with [[spoiler: Eltariel, the Blade of Galadriel]]. Amidst some bitter tension and sad discoveries, there's a few moments of hilarity: the rather academic way Eltariel inquires about the process of Talion's ResurrectiveImmortality [[spoiler: (having been the one who ''killed him'' this time)]] for one, but most especially the [[OhCrap surprise]] written across Celebrimbor's spectral visage when it is revealed that [[spoiler: she can [[TrueSight SEE]] his independent spirit-form. Only those who wield or wielded Rings of Power can, like Sauron or Gollum.]][[note]]In [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings the source material]], powerful or older Elves could also [[spoiler:see into the Wraith-World. The Light of Galadriel is why she can see him, so it's fairly certain Galadriel herself enchanted it with very old magic.]][[/note]]

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* In a [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M17yXQYkhYg new trailer]], we see Talion and Celebrimbor's first meeting with [[spoiler: Eltariel, the Blade of Galadriel]]. Galadriel. Amidst some bitter tension and sad discoveries, there's a few moments of hilarity: the rather academic way Eltariel inquires about the process of Talion's ResurrectiveImmortality [[spoiler: (having been the one who ''killed him'' this time)]] time) for one, but most especially the [[OhCrap surprise]] written across Celebrimbor's spectral visage when it is revealed that [[spoiler: she can [[TrueSight SEE]] his independent spirit-form. Only those who wield or wielded Rings of Power can, like Sauron or Gollum.]][[note]]In [[note]]In [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings the source material]], powerful or older Elves could also [[spoiler:see see into the Wraith-World. The Light of Galadriel is why she can see him, so it's fairly certain Galadriel herself enchanted it with very old magic.]][[/note]][[/note]]



* It's been confirmed that in this game, [[spoiler: your Dominated Minions can Return from the dead as well.]] What should have been a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome / SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}} announcement at the preview presentation got flubbed pretty badly when the Olog the devs had coded to have a guaranteed Return to demonstrate this wound up letting himself get decapitated. He came back anyway, but showed up still missing his head, not that he let that hamper his [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated cavalier reintroduction]] in anyway.
-->'''Ur-Lasu Pain Seeker''' ''(Somehow speaking through the giant hole in the air where his face should be)'': I am not in fact dead. I will take that expression to mean "welcome back." Thank you.

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* It's been confirmed that in this game, [[spoiler: your Dominated Minions can Return from the dead as well.]] well. What should have been a SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome / SugarWiki/{{Heartwarming Moment|s}} announcement at the preview presentation got flubbed pretty badly when the Olog the devs had coded to have a guaranteed Return to demonstrate this wound up letting himself get decapitated. He came back anyway, but showed up still missing his head, not that he let that hamper his [[ReportsOfMyDeathWereGreatlyExaggerated cavalier reintroduction]] in anyway.
-->'''Ur-Lasu Pain Seeker''' ''(Somehow speaking through the giant hole in the air where his face should be)'': be):'' I am not in fact dead. I will take that expression to mean "welcome back." Thank you.



* [[spoiler: Ratbag is back, and is every bit as hilariously incompetent as before]].
-->'''[[spoiler: Ratbag]]''': [[spoiler: Ranger! So much to catch up on! Where do I start?]]
-->'''Talion''': [[spoiler: How about your ''death''?!]]
-->'''[[spoiler: Ratbag]]''': [[spoiler: What, [[YouHaveFailedMe me getting hit by the Hammer]]? [[MajorInjuryUnderreaction That was a headache at most!]] [[LeaningOnTheFourthWall You wanna kill an Uruk, you gotta take the head clean off! Does the job every time! Well, most of the time]]...]]
** [[spoiler: The giant Olog mook, Ranger, that Ratbag keeps as his bodyguard after they busted out of an Orc prison together [[ServileSnarker gets in a few good jabs]], aided by the fact that given he only talks in BlackSpeech, Ratbag can't understand a word he's saying]].
--->'''Ranger''': [[spoiler: [[FriendshipDenial We are not friends]]. [[IOweYouMyLife You saved my life]].]]
--->'''[[spoiler: Ratbag]]''': ''(completely oblivious)'' [[spoiler: Oh yeah, [[ComicallyMissingThePoint I should tell them about the fort thing, thanks for that]]!]]
** [[spoiler: Bonus points for the fact he's nicknamed Ranger in Talion's honour]].
--->'''Talion''': ''[dryly]'' [[SarcasmMode I'm honoured]].
** The fact [[spoiler: Ratbag and Bruz clearly don't like each other. There's a fair amount of SnarkToSnarkCombat between them]].
--->'''[[spoiler: Ratbag]]''': ''(to his Olog guard)'' [[spoiler: [[EnemyMine The man is a friend]]. The Olog, watch him, make sure he don't do anything suspicious...[[CaptainObvious like, you know, kill me]]!]]

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* [[spoiler: Ratbag is back, and is every bit as hilariously incompetent as before]].
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Ranger! So much to catch up on! Where do I start?]]
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start?
-->'''Talion:'''
How about your ''death''?!]]
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** [[spoiler: The giant Olog mook, Ranger, that Ratbag keeps as his bodyguard after they busted out of an Orc prison together [[ServileSnarker gets in a few good jabs]], aided by the fact that given he only talks in BlackSpeech, Ratbag can't understand a word he's saying]].saying.
--->'''Ranger''': [[spoiler: --->'''Ranger:''' [[FriendshipDenial We are not friends]]. [[IOweYouMyLife You saved my life]].]]
--->'''[[spoiler: Ratbag]]''':
life]].
--->'''Ratbag:'''
''(completely oblivious)'' [[spoiler: Oh yeah, [[ComicallyMissingThePoint I should tell them about the fort thing, thanks for that]]!]]
that]]!
** [[spoiler: Bonus points for the fact he's nicknamed Ranger in Talion's honour]].
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honour.
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''[dryly]'' [[SarcasmMode I'm honoured]].
** The fact [[spoiler: Ratbag and Bruz clearly don't like each other. There's a fair amount of SnarkToSnarkCombat between them]].
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--->'''Ratbag:'''
''(to his Olog guard)'' [[spoiler: [[EnemyMine The man is a friend]]. The Olog, watch him, make sure he don't do anything suspicious...[[CaptainObvious like, you know, kill me]]!]]me]]!



** [[spoiler: Talion and Celebrimbor sharing [[SurroundedByIdiots a mutual eye roll]] when having to listen to Bruz and Ratbag arguing over which one of them gets to be Overlord of the fortress]].
** [[spoiler:How did Ratbag and Ranger wind up as a fortress's Overlords? He claims that it's a long story, only to immediately say what players already suspected: [[KlingonPromotion Ranger killed the last Overlord]].]]
* [[spoiler: After Bruz betrays Talion, he is perhaps the most visibly, audibly ''annoyed'' that he's been in the games. Ratbag gleefully (and rather characteristically, for an Orc) going on about how Bruz [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice killed Talion]] in front of the orcs after a seige earns him a DeathGlare, and eventually a snarled, "''Quiet!''" Characteristic banter between Ratbag and Talion is very sarcastic on Talion's end during the following rescue mission.]]
--> '''[[spoiler:Ratbag]]''': So far so good. There are two more prisoners.

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** [[spoiler: Talion and Celebrimbor sharing [[SurroundedByIdiots a mutual eye roll]] when having to listen to Bruz and Ratbag arguing over which one of them gets to be Overlord of the fortress]].
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** [[spoiler:How How did Ratbag and Ranger wind up as a fortress's Overlords? He claims that it's a long story, only to immediately say what players already suspected: [[KlingonPromotion Ranger killed the last Overlord]].]]
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* [[spoiler: After Bruz betrays Talion, he is perhaps the most visibly, audibly ''annoyed'' that he's been in the games. Ratbag gleefully (and rather characteristically, for an Orc) going on about how Bruz [[ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice killed Talion]] in front of the orcs after a seige earns him a DeathGlare, and eventually a snarled, "''Quiet!''" Characteristic banter between Ratbag and Talion is very sarcastic on Talion's end during the following rescue mission.]]
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--> '''[[spoiler:Ratbag]]''': '''Ratbag:''' So far so good. There are two more prisoners.



--> '''[[spoiler:Ratbag]]''': Oh! Well, that'll come in handy...
* [[spoiler:While explaining the problems that Bruz rebelling would cause, Ratbag imitates Celebrimbor's "Suffer me now!" quote while pointing out the implications of Bruz breaking the brand. It's... significantly less imposing when he does it.]]

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--> '''[[spoiler:Ratbag]]''': '''Ratbag:''' Oh! Well, that'll come in handy...
* [[spoiler:While While explaining the problems that Bruz rebelling would cause, Ratbag imitates Celebrimbor's "Suffer me now!" quote while pointing out the implications of Bruz breaking the brand. It's... significantly less imposing when he does it.]]



** [[spoiler: Originally, Talion didn't have his own domination lines when he was on his own in Act 4, so every time he recruited an Uruk, it was with nothing more than a grunt. The February 2018 update gave Talion some new domination lines of his own, but the grunts still play every so often for the players who liked them.]]
** [[spoiler: Sometimes Talion's new recruit will pledge to serve the Bright Lord... who no longer exists, and [[WeUsedToBeFriends wouldn't be on good terms with Talion even if he still did.]]]]
** The game can also forget to give Celebrimbor or [[spoiler: Dark Talion]] their speech when you take over a fort from a Overlord, leading to him just staring at his army for ten to fifteen seconds before suddenly slamming down his glave.

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** [[spoiler: Originally, Talion didn't have his own domination lines when he was on his own in Act 4, so every time he recruited an Uruk, it was with nothing more than a grunt. The February 2018 update gave Talion some new domination lines of his own, but the grunts still play every so often for the players who liked them.]]
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** [[spoiler: Sometimes Talion's new recruit will pledge to serve the Bright Lord... who no longer exists, and [[WeUsedToBeFriends wouldn't be on good terms with Talion even if he still did.]]]]
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** The game can also forget to give Celebrimbor or [[spoiler: Dark Talion]] Talion their speech when you take over a fort from a Overlord, leading to him just staring at his army for ten to fifteen seconds before suddenly slamming down his glave.



** The funny thing is [[spoiler: come Act 4, this Olog might not be wrong with some of his statements.]]

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** The funny thing is [[spoiler: come Act 4, this Olog might not be wrong with some of his statements.]]



* After completing the Bruz questline [[spoiler:and leaving Bruz a shell of an Orc who can do little more than state that he doesn't want the fort, you can recruit him back into your army after finding him again, then assign him to act as overlord of the region. He spends the entire boss fight bitching about how much he doesn't want the fort, even as he fights to defend it. LaserGuidedKarma has never been more hilarious!]]
* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDjhFAAJewo As this video shows]], you can get Orc captains that have the "Overwhelming Awe" Mortal Weakness. What does it do? [[spoiler: It's the same thing as the "Fear of the Gravewalker" Weakness in the last game, meaning the moment they see you, they start running for their lives.]] It's even funnier if they ambush you, leading to a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment.

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* After completing the Bruz questline [[spoiler:and and leaving Bruz a shell of an Orc who can do little more than state that he doesn't want the fort, you can recruit him back into your army after finding him again, then assign him to act as overlord of the region. He spends the entire boss fight bitching about how much he doesn't want the fort, even as he fights to defend it. LaserGuidedKarma has never been more hilarious!]]
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDjhFAAJewo As this video shows]], you can get Orc captains that have the "Overwhelming Awe" Mortal Weakness. What does it do? [[spoiler: It's the same thing as the "Fear of the Gravewalker" Weakness in the last game, meaning the moment they see you, they start running for their lives.]] lives. It's even funnier if they ambush you, leading to a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment.



* If you activate the Eltariel skin in the main game, Talion's character model and movement/idle animations are changed to Eltariel's... but Celebrimbor keeps his model. His wraith looks like he is stuck in a full elevator as the game tries to match its skeleton with Eltariel's, his animations are switched to Eltariel's more feminine ones, and his shoulder pads become sentient and sometimes readjust themselves. This is likely a glitch, since [[spoiler:if you already have Dark Talion his wraith is replaced by a green version of Eltariel's own.]]

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* If you activate the Eltariel skin in the main game, Talion's character model and movement/idle animations are changed to Eltariel's... but Celebrimbor keeps his model. His wraith looks like he is stuck in a full elevator as the game tries to match its skeleton with Eltariel's, his animations are switched to Eltariel's more feminine ones, and his shoulder pads become sentient and sometimes readjust themselves. This is likely a glitch, since [[spoiler:if if you already have Dark Talion his wraith is replaced by a green version of Eltariel's own.]]



* [[spoiler:During the conquest of Shindram, Baranor orders his men to stay outside while he confronts the overlord, and Serka agrees. After the overlord's trash talk, Baranor turns to find Serka standing next to him. YMMV on whether this is funny, [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome]], or maybe even SugarWiki/{{heartwarming|Moments}} - until Serka opens his mouth and places the moment firmly in the Funny category.]]
-->[[spoiler:'''Serka''' (to Baranor): I got bored out there!]]
* [[spoiler:After capturing Lithlad's fort, Serka suggests several titles to Baranor. including "[[EmbarrassingNickname Baranor the Man-bird"]]. Baranor actually likes "Baranor the Conqueror".]]

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* [[spoiler:During During the conquest of Shindram, Baranor orders his men to stay outside while he confronts the overlord, and Serka agrees. After the overlord's trash talk, Baranor turns to find Serka standing next to him. YMMV on whether this is funny, [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome]], or maybe even SugarWiki/{{heartwarming|Moments}} - until Serka opens his mouth and places the moment firmly in the Funny category.]]
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-->'''Serka'''
(to Baranor): I got bored out there!]]
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* [[spoiler:After After capturing Lithlad's fort, Serka suggests several titles to Baranor. including "[[EmbarrassingNickname Baranor the Man-bird"]]. Baranor actually likes "Baranor the Conqueror".]]



* Torvin reveals a big twist at the end... [[spoiler:The Rumbler, a were-wyrm the size of a skyscraper, [[SamusIsAGirl is a girl]]. [[NoodleIncident He checked.]]]]

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* Torvin reveals a big twist at the end... [[spoiler:The The Rumbler, a were-wyrm the size of a skyscraper, [[SamusIsAGirl is a girl]]. [[NoodleIncident He checked.]]]]]]
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* One piece of checkpoint raid dialog has the Uruk Captain mention he heard that eating drake flesh could grant you powers. He then says that, after eating from a dead drake after a fight, "all it did was [[PottyFailure make me shrakh myself]]".
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* Talion and Celebrimbor also seem to snark at each other at time when you defeat a Warchief.

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* Talion and Celebrimbor also seem to snark at each other at time when you defeat a Warchief.
-->'''Celebrimbor:''' That Warchief is no more.
-->'''Talion:''' And yet as you always point out, Mordor will breed a thousand more.
** Another example of snark to snark combat between the two after a Warchief falls.
-->'''Celebrimbor:''' I'm surprised. I expected more of a struggle from that one.
-->'''Talion:''' From where I was standing, he seemed to struggle plenty.[[note]] This becomes more funny if you had spies ready to betray their Warchief beforehand and they easily kill him instead of Talion. [[/note]]
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* In the first game, Uruks could have "Hate" tags that afforded them health regen and [[TurnsRed attack boosts]] when confronted with their personal BerserkButton (e.g. being betrayed, attacked by animals). This game amps that trait to the logical extreme by making an Uruk that "Hates [[HatesEveryoneEqually Everything]]"; which in practice just means they sometimes get [[HairTriggerTemper randomly enraged with no specific environmental or status trigger]] during their fights.

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* In the first game, Uruks could have "Hate" tags that afforded them health regen and [[TurnsRed attack boosts]] when confronted with their personal BerserkButton (e.g. being betrayed, attacked by animals). This game amps that trait to the logical extreme by making an Uruk that "Hates [[HatesEveryoneEqually Everything]]"; which in practice just means they sometimes get [[HairTriggerTemper randomly enraged with no specific environmental or status trigger]] during their fights. (Even better, they don't even need to be fighting. You can be minding your own business unaware you're near anyone important and suddenly the game may tell you an Uruk is going on a rampage.)
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* Uruks with "the Gab" title will talk your ear off, and end up saying a number of amusing things. One of the funniest is if he keeps killing you, he will eventually go into a lengthly explanation about how he's keeping a tally of his kills, and is having trouble figuring out whether killing Talion should count just the once, or if he should count ever instance separately.

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* Uruks with "the Gab" title will talk your ear off, and end up saying a number of amusing things. One of the funniest is if he keeps killing you, he will eventually go into a lengthly explanation about how he's keeping a tally of his kills, and is having trouble figuring out whether killing Talion should count just the once, or if he should count ever instance separately. ''And'' on top of that he complains he's starting to lose count of how many times he has killed Talion.
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* Uruks with "the Gab" title will talk your ear off, and end up saying a number of amusing things. One of the funniest is if he keeps killing you, he will eventually go into a lengthly explanation about how he's keeping a tally of his kills, and is having trouble figuring out whether killing Talion should count just the once, or if he should count ever instance separately.
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* Two words: Uruk. Minstrels. They speak and behave exactly like the Singers from the first game, but take the spectacle UpToEleven by insisting on fighting using lutes with axe-blades glued their bottoms. And yes, they do strum a tune whenever they speak in a singsong tone. Heck, on their Strengths/Weaknesses screen, they're ''humming''.

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* Two words: Uruk. Minstrels. They speak and behave exactly like the Singers from the first game, but take the spectacle UpToEleven up to eleven by insisting on fighting using lutes with axe-blades glued their bottoms. And yes, they do strum a tune whenever they speak in a singsong tone. Heck, on their Strengths/Weaknesses screen, they're ''humming''.
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* You have a chance to encounter Uruks with Diprosopus. Not only are they like grotesque, orcish versions of Janus cats, he's actually quite happy to share with you why bearing two faces is an advantage for him.

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* You have a chance to encounter Uruks with Diprosopus.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diprosopus Diprosopus]]. Not only are they like grotesque, orcish versions of Janus cats, he's actually quite happy to share with you why bearing two faces is an advantage for him.

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* The Graug hunt event starts with the captain telling his crew to get ready as the prey arrives, cue the orc used as bait with the Graug on his tail.
-->'''Orc:''' You said caragor hunt!

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* The Graug hunt event starts with the captain telling his crew to get ready as the prey arrives, cue the orc used as bait with the Graug on his tail.
tail running for his dear life while screaming at the top of his lungs.
-->'''Orc:''' You said caragor hunt!''caragor'' hunt!!
-->'''Orc:''' Aaaaaaagh!!! Way bigger than I thought!!

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* There are drunk orcs in the game and they can become [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aKLgz-FCOE overlords]]. Usually, overlords give speeches to intimidate the masses before the invasion, here? The drunk overlords have slurred speech and are too drunk to even know what's going on.

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* There are drunk Drunk orcs are back in the game and they can become [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1aKLgz-FCOE overlords]]. Usually, overlords give speeches to intimidate the masses before the invasion, here? The drunk overlords have slurred speech and are too drunk to even know what's going on.


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** Even their before dying they can lead to ridiculous moments. Usually Captains have either threatening quotes or curse you out of spite, drunk captains? [[https://youtu.be/6lerFJNKn5Q?t=87 Not so much]].
--->'''Drunk Captain:''' Wait-- waitwaitwaitwaitwait! ''[pauses for a moment and lets out a '''belch''']'' A-alright. Alright, go ahead...
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** Made funnier by the fact that in gameplay, [[NotSoDifferent the digger trait tends to be more common in Ghul-lovers than other orcs]].

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* Finding the Númenorian helmet artifact prompts Celebrimbor, as he often does being a craftsman himself, to critique the make of it. This is one of the few times he ''isn't'' a snob about it simply because it's not Elvish leaving Talion genuinely surprised.

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* Finding the Númenorian helmet artifact prompts Celebrimbor, as he often does being a craftsman himself, to critique the make of it. This is one of the few times he ''isn't'' a snob about it simply because it's not Elvish Elvish-made, leaving Talion genuinely surprised.

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* If driven insane, orcs with the title "Dwarf-hater" gain the hate trigger "Enraged by Dwarves" and believe Talion is a dwarf. There are no actual dwarves in the entire game[[note]]Except for Torvin in the second DLC story, but he is unreachable by orcs, and Baranor can't drive orcs insane anyway[[/note]], meaning that the devs created an unique rage trigger that exists only as a joke.

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* If driven insane, orcs ologs with the title "Dwarf-hater" gain the hate trigger "Enraged by Dwarves" and believe Talion is a dwarf. There are no actual dwarves in the entire game[[note]]Except for Torvin in the second DLC story, but he is unreachable by orcs, orcs and ologs, and Baranor can't drive orcs them insane anyway[[/note]], meaning that the devs created an unique rage trigger that exists only as a joke.

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* The developers seem to be [[AscendedMeme aware]] of the [[UnfortunateName unfortunate Uruk names]] from the last game, because they've added more. Along with fan-favorites Dûsh and Kâka, we now have [[FunWithAcronyms Fûbar, Snâfu]], Bork, Shag, and more. And yes, the names are still voiced like always.

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* The developers seem to be [[AscendedMeme aware]] of the [[UnfortunateName unfortunate silly Uruk names]] names from the last game, because they've added more. Along with fan-favorites Dûsh and Kâka, we now have [[FunWithAcronyms Fûbar, Snâfu]], Bork, Shag, and more. And yes, the names are still voiced like always.



---> '''[[UnfortunateNames Dűsh Drooler:]]''' ''Oh?''

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---> '''[[UnfortunateNames Dűsh Drooler:]]''' '''Dűsh Drooler:''' ''Oh?''
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---> '''Brûz:''' We all can use someone in battle eh. Well not me, I mean needing someone to lend me a hand in battle? I'll rather slit my own throat! But you need to, [[HypocriticalHumor no shame in that]].

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---> '''Brûz:''' We all can use someone in battle eh. Well not me, I mean needing someone Anyone looking to lend me carve his way across Mordor needs a guard or two. ...I mean, I don't. Obviously. Pah, if it ever got to the point where I needed a hand in battle? I'll rather slit on the battlefield, I'd cut my own throat! throat. ...But you need to, you? ''You'' should have some added muscle. [[HypocriticalHumor no No shame in that]].it.]]



--> '''[[spoiler:Ratbag]]''': Great. There's just two more!
--> '''Talion''': Yes. That was one, and you said there were three. ''I can count.''
--> '''[[spoiler:Ratbag]]''': You can? Oh. That's useful.
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more prisoners.
--> '''Talion''': Yes. That was one, and you You said there were three.three and we've got one. ''I can count.''
--> '''[[spoiler:Ratbag]]''': You can? Oh. That's useful.
Oh! Well, that'll come in handy...
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-->"My dreams reveal secrets. I see the living and the dead. I see my Vat Keeper... but he's naked..."

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-->"My dreams reveal secrets.secrets, futures. I see the living and the dead. I see my Vat Keeper... but he's naked..."
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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDjhFAAJewo As this video shows]], you can get Orc captains that have the "Overwhelming Awe" Mortal Weakness. What does it do? [[spoiler: It's the same thing as the "Fear of the Gravewalker" Weakness in the last game, meaning the moment they see you, they start running for their lives.]]

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* [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDjhFAAJewo As this video shows]], you can get Orc captains that have the "Overwhelming Awe" Mortal Weakness. What does it do? [[spoiler: It's the same thing as the "Fear of the Gravewalker" Weakness in the last game, meaning the moment they see you, they start running for their lives.]]]] It's even funnier if they ambush you, leading to a MyGodWhatHaveIDone moment.
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* Finding the Númenorian helmet artifact prompts Celebrimbor, as he often does being a craftsman himself, to critique the make of it. This is one of the few times he ''isn't'' a snob about it simply because it's not Elvish leaving Talion genuinely surprised.
-->'''Celebrimbor:''' A helment of Númenor. Adequate craftsmanship, given the materials available.\\
'''Talion:''' That is ''the closest'' you've come to respecting a fellow craftsman.
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-->'''Uruk:''': Looks like I killed you Tark, 'suppose that makes me a Tark killer, no... Tark ''slayer''! Hmm, I quite like the sound of that. ''Tark slayer!'' From now on I will be known as The Tark Slayer!

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-->'''Uruk:''': -->'''Uruk:''' Looks like I killed you Tark, 'suppose that makes me a Tark killer, no... Tark ''slayer''! Hmm, I quite like the sound of that. ''Tark slayer!'' From now on I will be known as The Tark Slayer!



--->'''Tark Slayer:''':You killed me, Tark! I guess that makes you the Tark Slayer ''({{beat}})'' slayer?

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--->'''Tark Slayer:''':You Slayer:''' You killed me, Tark! I guess that makes you the Tark Slayer ''({{beat}})'' slayer?
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** On a less funny note, it was inspired by Mike Forgey, who had his own band on the side, wielding his own "axe." Forgery passed away in 2016 and a minstrel named Forthog was created based on him.

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** On a less funny note, it was inspired by Mike Forgey, who had his own band on the side, wielding his own "axe." Forgery Forgey passed away in 2016 and a minstrel named Forthog was created based on him.



* In the first game, Uruks could have "Hate" tags that afforded them health regen and [[TurnsRed attack boosts]] when confronted with their personal BerserkButton (e.g. being betrayed, attacked by animals). This game amps that trait to the logical extreme by making an Uruk that "Hates [[HatesEveryoneEqually Everything]]" (Which in practice just means they sometimes get [[HairTriggerTemper randomly enraged with no specific environmental or status trigger]] during their fights.)

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* In the first game, Uruks could have "Hate" tags that afforded them health regen and [[TurnsRed attack boosts]] when confronted with their personal BerserkButton (e.g. being betrayed, attacked by animals). This game amps that trait to the logical extreme by making an Uruk that "Hates [[HatesEveryoneEqually Everything]]" (Which Everything]]"; which in practice just means they sometimes get [[HairTriggerTemper randomly enraged with no specific environmental or status trigger]] during their fights.)



* One Uruk Captain title is "[[MadLove The]] [[{{Yandere}} Obsessed]]" and bearers of this title are deeply and ''disturbingly'' in love with Talion, capable of switching gears between flirting with the Ranger to admitting that he could stare at Talion's corpse for hours. Some of his battle cries even include "Lover, lover, like no other!"

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* One Uruk Captain title is "[[MadLove The]] [[{{Yandere}} Obsessed]]" and bearers of this title are deeply and ''disturbingly'' in love with Talion, capable of swiftly switching gears between openly flirting with the Ranger to admitting that he could stare at Talion's corpse for hours. Some of his battle cries even include "Lover, lover, like no other!"other!" And just as one more example of how crazy these ones are, here's one of their responses to Talion ''killing'' another Captain.



-->'''Warchief:''' Turning Orcs against their Master?! That's ''low''... ''{{{beat}})'' WhyDidntIThinkOfThat

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-->'''Warchief:''' Turning Orcs against their Master?! That's ''low''... ''{{{beat}})'' WhyDidntIThinkOfThatWhyDidntIThinkOfThat?



-->'''The Poisoner:''' "That's not how you do it! Amateur. That's four times the dose you need! Ever heard of supersaturation?"

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-->'''The Poisoner:''' "That's not how you do it! Amateur. That's four ''four'' times the dose you need! Ever heard of supersaturation?"



* Due to the way the RNG works, orc and olog traits can produce some...interesting combinations. For example, it's possible to find an orc [[OneHitKill who's mortally vulnerable to caragor attacks]]...and [[FearlessFool is enraged by caragors, and leads a group of caragor riders into battle.]]
* A downed Olog may mention that he has killed 312 orcs, and wonders if you can even remember your kill count. If you link your account and check your profile on the official forums, you can find this number on your stats; and if you've played long enough, you might have ridiciously high numbers, such as ''26 379''. So yes, Mr. Olog, I know my kill count. You don't want to hear it.

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* Due to the way the RNG works, orc and olog traits can produce some... interesting combinations. For example, it's possible to find an orc [[OneHitKill who's mortally vulnerable to caragor attacks]]...and [[FearlessFool is enraged by caragors, and leads a group of caragor riders into battle.]]
* A downed Olog may mention that he has killed 312 orcs, and wonders if you can even remember your kill count. If you link your account and check your profile on the official forums, you can find this number on your stats; and if you've played long enough, you might have ridiciously ridiculously high numbers, such as ''26 379''. So yes, Mr. Olog, I know my kill count. You don't want to hear it.



* If you activate the Eltariel skin in the main game, Talion's character model and movement/idle animations are changed to Eltariel's... but Celebrimbor keeps his model. His wraith looks like he is stuck in a full elevator as the game tries to match it's skeleton with Eltariel's, his animations are switched to Eltariel's more feminine ones, and his shoulder pads become sentient and sometimes readjust themselves. This is likely a glitch, since [[spoiler:if you already have Dark Talion his wraith is replaced by a green version of Eltariel's own.]]

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* If you activate the Eltariel skin in the main game, Talion's character model and movement/idle animations are changed to Eltariel's... but Celebrimbor keeps his model. His wraith looks like he is stuck in a full elevator as the game tries to match it's its skeleton with Eltariel's, his animations are switched to Eltariel's more feminine ones, and his shoulder pads become sentient and sometimes readjust themselves. This is likely a glitch, since [[spoiler:if you already have Dark Talion his wraith is replaced by a green version of Eltariel's own.]]
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** When Krimp first introduces himself and expresses his love, Eltariel's first reaction is a wary, sighing, "Oh..."

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** When Krimp he first introduces himself and expresses his love, Eltariel's first reaction is a wary, sighing, "Oh..."

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