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The film was very popular not only in Italy, but also in Britain and America (whose version, however, is cut and shorter) and even in Japan, where it's known as "''Suspiria 2''".
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* AxCrazy: The killer. Bonus point for actually using a cleaver. Despite killing to keep their identity a secret they enjoy it way too much and make the murders as brutal and agonising as possible.
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* AxCrazy: The killer. Bonus point for actually using a cleaver. Despite killing to keep their identity a secret they enjoy it way too much and make the murders as brutal and agonising agonizing as possible.
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* {{Bowdlerised}}: The US version decided to cut all the romantic subplots, the funny scenes and also many bits from the murders. Of course, those cut were minimal, so the film is not too short.
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* {{Bowdlerised}}: The US version decided to cut all the romantic subplots, the funny scenes and also many bits from the murders. Of course, those cut cuts were minimal, so the film is not too short.
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* CreepyChild: Olga, the daughter of the abandoned house keeper. Among various things she has impaled a lizard [[KidsAreCruel with a needle, and the poor beastie is still alive]].
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* CreepyChild: Olga, the daughter of the abandoned house keeper.housekeeper. Among various things she has impaled a lizard [[KidsAreCruel with a needle, and the poor beastie is still alive]].
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* SoundtrackDissonance: Most of the film's murder scenes has fast-paced jazz tunes playing on the background.
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* SoundtrackDissonance: Most of the film's murder scenes has have fast-paced jazz tunes playing on in the background.
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** Carlo's lover, [[spoiler:Massimo]]. The old saying goes that in a mystery, the character who seemingly serves no other purpose to the overall story must be the killer, but that isn't the case here. Also, given the movie's age and some of the more problematic tropes of the era, you'd be forgiven for assuming [[spoiler:the fruity, openly gay man]] would be up to something sinister, but not this time.
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** [[spoiler:Gianna]] is one of the few people who knows everything Marc is going to do in advance and is usually in the same vicinity as the murders, making [[spoiler:her]] an obvious suspect. It seems the gig is up when [[spoiler:she is dramatically revealed watching over Marc's body after he's attacked from behind and knocked out, making it seem like she did it.]] But of course, we find out soon after [[spoiler:she just happened to get there right after the real killer fled.]]
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* DemonicDummy: After Giordani hears the "Killer tune", a [[UncannyValley nightmarish]] mechanical puppet rushes into the room [[EvilLaugh giggling]]. After a brief pause, he cracks its head open with the knife.
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* DemonicDummy: After Giordani hears the "Killer tune", a [[UncannyValley nightmarish]] nightmarish mechanical puppet rushes into the room [[EvilLaugh giggling]]. After a brief pause, he cracks its head open with the knife.
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* KnifeNut: The killer.
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** [[spoiler: Being the big bad, Martha's is probably the worst. She has her necklace get caught on a moving elevator, which results in her choking on it and then having it slowly decapitate her.]]
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* DudeLooksLikeALady: Carlo's lover. If it weren't for his bare chest, he could have passed for a woman.
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* DudeLooksLikeALady: Carlo's lover. lover Ricci. If it weren't for his bare chest, chest and slight facial hair, he could have passed for a woman.
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* DolledUpInstallment: In Japan, the film was released as "''Suspiria 2''", despite being unrelated (and filmed several years before ''Suspiria'').
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* Foreshadowing: The killer scares Amanda by hanging a doll from a noose; likewise, [[spoiler:Martha dies in the same way with her necklace acting as the noose]].
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* Foreshadowing: {{Foreshadowing}}: The killer scares Amanda by hanging a doll from a noose; likewise, [[spoiler:Martha dies in the same way with her necklace acting as the noose]].
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* Foreshadowing: The killer scares Amanda by hanging a doll from a noose; likewise, [[spoiler:Martha dies in the same way with her necklace acting as the noose]].
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler: Giordani is finished off by his own knife and Martha is beheaded by her own necklace caught in a descending lift.]]
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler: Giordani [[spoiler:Giordani is finished off by his own knife and Martha is beheaded by her own necklace caught in a descending lift.]]
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** In his first sighting of the killer, Marc believes the killer was wearing a raincoat. Very soon, he meets [[spoiler:Giordani]], who is also wearing a raincoat.
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** In his first sighting of the killer, Marc believes tells the killer was wearing police that he saw a raincoat. man in a dark raincoat walking away from the crime scene. Very soon, he meets [[spoiler:Giordani]], [[spoiler:Professor Giordani]], who is also wearing a dark raincoat.
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** Olga.
** [[spoiler: Also Carlo.]]
** [[spoiler: Also Carlo.]]
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** Olga.In his first sighting of the killer, Marc believes the killer was wearing a raincoat. Very soon, he meets [[spoiler:Giordani]], who is also wearing a raincoat.
**[[spoiler: Also Carlo.]]The CreepyChild [[spoiler:Olga]], who kills lizards for fun and has a drawing similar to the killer's art, is surprisingly not the murderer.
** [[spoiler:Carlo]] is presented as the killer, and the film is seemingly about to end until Marcus realizes that [[spoiler:Carlo]] [[TheAlibi was with him]] when Helga died.
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** [[spoiler:Carlo]] is presented as the killer, and the film is seemingly about to end until Marcus realizes that [[spoiler:Carlo]] [[TheAlibi was with him]] when Helga died.
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* CatScare: Or rather, Bird scare... and the poor things get ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice to boot.
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* CatScare: TheCameo: The photo of Carol, Marcus' ex-girlfriend, is of Argento's own former partner, Marilù Tolo. Tolo was one of the stars of Argento's previous film, ''The Five Days'' (1973).
* CatScare:
** Or rather, Bird scare... and the poor things get ImpaledWithExtremePrejudice toboot.boot.
** The killer weaponizes this by distracting [[spoiler:Giordani]] with a robot dummy.
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** The killer weaponizes this by distracting [[spoiler:Giordani]] with a robot dummy.
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* [[spoiler: FreezeFrameBonus: A rare example in the "running through the art gallery hallway" sequence. If you pay close enough attention, you may actually learn the killer's identity mere 20 minutes into the film.]]
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* [[spoiler: FreezeFrameBonus: A rare example in the "running through the art gallery hallway" sequence. If you pay close enough attention, you may actually learn the killer's identity mere 20 minutes into the film.]]
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* {{Giallo}}
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* HandOfDeathHandOfDeath: To avoid showing the killer's face, the camera focuses mainly on the killer's hand holding the cleaver.
* HandOfDeath
* LockedRoomMystery: Inside the abandoned house. [[spoiler: It's the room where Carlo's father was killed, complete with the rotting corpse.]]
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* PsychicPowers: The first victim had them.
* RedHerring: Olga. [[spoiler: Also Carlo.]]
* RedHerring: Olga. [[spoiler: Also Carlo.]]
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* PsychicPowers: The first victim had them.
Helga is a telepath who can read minds.
*RedHerring: Olga. RedHerring:
** Olga.
** [[spoiler: Also Carlo.]]
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** Olga.
** [[spoiler: Also Carlo.]]
* SheKnowsTooMuch: Through telepathy, Helga realizes that one of the audience members is a killer. She ends up becoming a target.
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* TheCameo: The photo of Carol, Marcus' ex-girlfriend, is of Argento's own former partner, Marilù Tolo. Tolo was one of the stars of Argento's previous film, ''The Five Days'' (1973).
* [[HeKnowsTooMuch They Know Too Much]]: The reason why so many people meet a gruesome end.
* [[LockedRoomMystery Walled Up Room Mystery]]: Inside the abandoned house. [[spoiler: It's the room where Carlo's father was killed, complete with the rotting corpse.]]
* [[HeKnowsTooMuch They Know Too Much]]: The reason why so many people meet a gruesome end.
* [[LockedRoomMystery Walled Up Room Mystery]]: Inside the abandoned house. [[spoiler: It's the room where Carlo's father was killed, complete with the rotting corpse.]]
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* TheAllegedCar: Gianna's Fiat 500. It's amazing that it can still move, and in order to exit from it they must pass from the rooftop.
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* TheAllegedCar: Gianna's Fiat 500. It's amazing that it can still move, and in order to exit from it if the doors get jammed (which they must pass from frequently do) you have to get in and out through the rooftop.sunroof.
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* BigBad: [[spoiler:Martha]] is the killer.
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* TheCameo: The photo of Carol, Marcus' ex-girlfriend, is of Argento's own former partner, Marilù Tolo. Tolo was one of the stars of Argento's previous film, ''The Five Days'' (1973).
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* CrossCastRole: Carlo's male transvestite lover Massimo was actually played by actress Geraldine Hooper.
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* DesignatedLoveInterest: Gianna to Marc.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectHero: Marc has a low opinion of "liberated women" and seems uncomfortable around Carlo's lover.
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* KillerOutfit: With jewelry rather than with clothes: [[spoiler:the murderer]] is killed when [[spoiler:her necklace]] gets stuck in a moving elevator, which beheads them.
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* CreepyChild: Olga, the daughter of the abandoned house keeper. Among various things she has impaled a lizard [[KidsAreCruel with a needle, and the poor beastie is still alive]]
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* CreepyChild: Olga, the daughter of the abandoned house keeper. Among various things she has impaled a lizard [[KidsAreCruel with a needle, and the poor beastie is still alive]]alive]].
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* PoliceAreUseless: Played with. One scene ([[BadExportForYou absent from the US & UK release]]) shows that a good portion of the police department is on strike, forcing Marc and Gianna to investigate on their own.
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* PoliceAreUseless: Played with. One scene ([[BadExportForYou absent from the US & UK release]]) shows that a good portion of the police department is on strike, forcing Marc and Gianna to investigate on their own.
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* PoliceAreUseless: Played with. One scene (absent from the US & UK release) shows that a good portion of the police department is on strike, forcing Marc and Gianna to investigate on their own.
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* PoliceAreUseless: Played with. One scene (absent ([[BadExportForYou absent from the US & UK release) release]]) shows that a good portion of the police department is on strike, forcing Marc and Gianna to investigate on their own.
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* PoliceAreUseless: Played with. One scene shows that a good portion of the police department is on strike, forcing Marc and Daria to investigate on their own!
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* PoliceAreUseless: Played with. One scene (absent from the US & UK release) shows that a good portion of the police department is on strike, forcing Marc and Daria Gianna to investigate on their own!own.
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: The twisted killer [[spoiler: was heartbroken by her sons death. Doubly so in the case of Carlos whose love for his mom is the sole reason for his helping her.]]
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* EvenEvilHasLovedOnes: The twisted killer [[spoiler: was heartbroken by her sons son's death. Doubly so in the case of Carlos whose Carlo's love for his mom is mom, the sole reason for his helping her.]]
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The film was very popular not only in Italy, but also in Britain and America (whose version, however, is cut and shorter) and even in Japan, where it's known as "Suspiria 2"."''Suspiria 2''".
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** Amanda is brutally beaten and drowned in a tub of hot water.
** [[spoiler: Giordani is brutally beaten to a pulp, has his teeth smashed against a corner of the piano and is stabbed in the neck.]]
** [[spoiler: Giordani is brutally beaten to a pulp, has his teeth smashed against a corner of the piano and is stabbed in the neck.]]
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** Amanda is brutally beaten and drowned in a tub of scalding hot water.
** [[spoiler: Giordani is brutally beaten to a pulp, has his teeth smashed againsta corner corners of the piano hard furniture, and is stabbed in the neck.]]
** [[spoiler: Giordani is brutally beaten to a pulp, has his teeth smashed against
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* DolledUpInstallment: In Japan, the film was released as "Suspiria 2", despite being unrelated (and filmed several years before Suspiria)
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* DolledUpInstallment: In Japan, the film was released as "Suspiria 2", "''Suspiria 2''", despite being unrelated (and filmed several years before Suspiria)''Suspiria'').
* DrowningMySorrows: Alcoholism aside, Carlo is a man of many problems: crippling insecurity; {{Gayngst}}; [[spoiler:[[InnocenceLost childhood trauma]]; and UndyingLoyalty to an [[EvilMatriarch undeserving mother]]]].
* DrowningMySorrows: Alcoholism aside, Carlo is a man of many problems: crippling insecurity; {{Gayngst}}; [[spoiler:[[InnocenceLost childhood trauma]]; and UndyingLoyalty to an [[EvilMatriarch undeserving mother]]]].
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The story follows the main character, the music teacher Marcus Daly (Marc) who witnesses the brutal murder of a psychic medium, Helga Hulmann and, despite failing to rescue her, catches a glimpse of the killer. With the help of a reporter, Gianna, his best friend Carlo and Dr. Giordani, an associate of Helga, he tries to uncover this mysterious killer and stop him before he kills again.
The film was very popular not only in Italy, but also in Britain and America (whose version however is cut and shorter) and even in Japan, where it's known as "Suspiria 2".
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The story follows the main character, the music teacher Marcus Daly (Marc) who witnesses the brutal murder of a psychic medium, Helga Hulmann Ulmann and, despite failing to rescue her, catches a glimpse of the killer. With the help of a reporter, Gianna, Gianna; his best friend Carlo Carlo; and Dr. Giordani, an associate of Helga, he tries to uncover this mysterious killer and stop him before he kills again.
The film was very popular not only in Italy, but also in Britain and America (whoseversion however version, however, is cut and shorter) and even in Japan, where it's known as "Suspiria 2".
The film was very popular not only in Italy, but also in Britain and America (whose
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''Deep Red'' (or ''Profondo Rosso'') is a {{Giallo}} movie from Creator/DarioArgento and, alongside ''Film/{{Suspiria}}'', considered his greatest work.
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''Deep Red'' (or ''Profondo Rosso'') is a {{Giallo}} movie from Creator/DarioArgento and, alongside ''Film/{{Suspiria}}'', ''Film/Suspiria1977'', considered his greatest work.
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