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* BadAss: All five [[spoiler: three at the end]] are this by the end of the series.



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%%* {{Badass}}

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%%* {{Badass}}



* {{Badass}}: His screentime is limited, but in two of three scenes he's in he gets to kick a lot of ass. He carves through the lines of Dalrei and lios alfar almost effortlessly and [[spoiler: nearly walks away from his fight with Diarmuid with only minor injuries.]]



* {{Badass}}



* {{Badass}}



* BadAss: Possibly the most badass of any Rider.

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%%* TheAce: At least for much of the first book until the second...
* BrokenAce: He learns that he can't fight and begins to doubt himself.
%%* EthicalSlut

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%%* * TheAce: At least for much of the first book until the second...
* BrokenAce: He BrokenAce: ...where he learns that he can't fight and begins to doubt himself.
%%* EthicalSlut
himself, especially in face of others' powers.
* [[spoiler: DeathBySex]]



* HeroicSacrifice: Returns to Gwen Ystrat and sacrifices himself to Dana to stop the snow.

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Returns to Gwen Ystrat and sacrifices himself to Dana to stop the snow.snow. Unlike Paul, he doesn't recover.]]



%%* TheLoad
%%* ReallyGetsAround: There are quite a few women who he spends a night with.

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%%* TheLoad
%%*
* ReallyGetsAround: There are quite a few women who he spends a night with.
with. [[spoiler: Including Earth-Goddess herself.]]



* GondorCallsForAid: Basically what [[MacGuffin Baelreath, the War Stone]], has her do, even at cost of the other party's innocence or sense of self. [[spoiler: She's finally fed up with this and disobeys it. It shuts down completely afterwards.]]



%%* {{Seers}}
%%* ShorterMeansSmarter: Often described as 'slight.'



!Paul Schafer/Pwyll Twiceborn

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!Paul Schafer/Pwyll Twiceborn
[[spoiler: Twiceborn]]



* BackFromTheDead: He dies and is reborn as "Pwyll Twiceborn".
%%* BelligerentSexualTension

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* BackFromTheDead: [[spoiler: He dies and is reborn as "Pwyll Twiceborn".
%%* BelligerentSexualTension
Twiceborn".]]
* BelligerentSexualTension: With Jaelle. [[spoiler: Eventually it's consummated.]]



* DeadpanSnarker: Very very deadpan. And usually only with people he feels very comfortable with. Interestingly, he seems to internalize alot of his snarking, as can be seen from the flashback sequence in his last night on the summer tree.
%%* DeathSeeker

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* DeadpanSnarker: Very very deadpan. And usually only with people he feels very comfortable with. Interestingly, he seems to internalize alot of his snarking, as can be seen from the flashback sequence in his last night [[spoiler: on the summer tree.
%%* DeathSeeker
The Summer Tree.]]
* DeathSeeker: He blames himself for Rachel's death and thus he welcomes Ailell's offer to [[spoiler: hang on The Summer Tree]] without much deliberation.



* HeroicSacrifice: He hangs himself on the summer tree in order to bring rain and end the drought.

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: He hangs himself on the summer tree The Summer Tree in order to bring rain and end the drought.drought. He gets better.]]



* IChooseToStay: [[spoiler: The only one out of Five to stay in Fionavar.]]



* LastMinuteHookup: He almost leaves without admitting he loves Jaelle.
* OppositesAttract: Paul is the living incarnation of the All-Father, and Jaelle the head priestess of the Mother-Goddess.

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* LastMinuteHookup: [[spoiler: He almost leaves without admitting he loves Jaelle.
Jaelle.]]
* OppositesAttract: Paul is [[spoiler: the living incarnation of the All-Father, All-Father]], and Jaelle the head priestess of the Mother-Goddess.



* TheStoic: So much that people find him unsettling and withdrawn.

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* TheStoic: So much that people find him unsettling and withdrawn. [[spoiler: It's actually related to his status as a Twiceborn.]]



* TookALevelInBadass: After he spends three days and nights on the summer tree, he gets much more powerful.

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* TookALevelInBadass: After he spends [[spoiler: three days and nights on the summer tree, The Summer Tree]], he gets much more powerful.powerful. Admittedly, he's still not much of a fighter, but by then he can [[spoiler: command and bind gods and talk down ''Galadan'' of all people.]]



!Jennifer Lowell

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!Jennifer Lowell
Lowell/[[spoiler: Guinevere]]



* EarnYourHappyEnding: Kay puts her through hell and back.
* EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses: She's a reincarnation of Guinevere.
* TheLoad: Though she has an understandable reason for being this way. Then she starts to play the role of Guinevere.
* RapeAsDrama: She is captured by Rakoth Maugrim, who rapes her simply because he wants to break her.

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Kay puts her through hell and back.
back, but she eventually [[spoiler: leaves together with Arthur and Lancelot to Avalon]].
* EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses: [[spoiler: She's a reincarnation of Guinevere.
Guinevere.]]
* TheLoad: Though she has an understandable reason for being this way. [[spoiler: Then she starts to play the role of Guinevere.
Guinevere.]]
* RapeAsDrama: [[spoiler: She is captured by Rakoth Maugrim, who rapes her simply because he wants to break her.
her.]] She doesn't get out of her {{Heroic BSOD}} until after [[spoiler: Darien]] is born.



* AllLoveIsUnrequited: Had a thing for Liane but it didn't go far. He did get to bang a goddess as his consolation prize however...

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* AllLoveIsUnrequited: Had a thing for Liane but it didn't go far. He did get to [[spoiler: bang a goddess and have a child with her]] as his consolation prize however...



%%* BadassNormal

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%%* BadassNormalBadassNormal: He's just big, strong and has a knack for an axe.



%%* TheHighKing
%%* SmartPeoplePlayChess

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%%* * TheHighKing
%%* SmartPeoplePlayChess* [[SmartPeoplePlayChess Smart People Play Ta'bael]]



%%* {{Badass}}
%%* CelibateHero: Possibly...



%%* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething:
%%* TheStoic:
%%* NotSoStoic: When his brother dies.
%%* SupportingLeader
%%* WhatTheHellHero: Gets one from Paul.

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%%* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething:
%%* TheStoic:
%%* NotSoStoic: When his brother dies.
%%* SupportingLeader
%%* WhatTheHellHero: Gets
** JerkWithAHeartOfGold: As a result, he mellows out in the epilogue, [[spoiler: once the war's won.]]
* MercyKill: [[spoiler: Gives
one from Paul.
to Diarmuid since the latter doesn't want to die by an urgach's sword.]]
* OneManArmy: Early on in the story, he and Kim are ambushed by about 15 svart alfar. None gets to live and Aileron comes out of the fight unscathed.
* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: He makes it a point to go and fight Rakoth's forces right there, right now.



%%* {{Badass}}



%%* TheCasanova

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%%* TheCasanova* TheCasanova
* HairOfGoldHeartOfGold: Has long luscious locks and is firmly on the side of good.



%%* ReallyGetsAround:
%%* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething:

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%%* ReallyGetsAround:
%%* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething:
*RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Beyond directly assisting the party, he [[spoiler: bests Uathach in their duel.]]



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:She gave her life so Kim could gain knowledge and understanding.]]
%%* {{Seer}}:

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:She gave SacrificialLion: After getting to know her life so for most of Book 1, [[spoiler: she sacrifices her soul to grant Kim could gain knowledge her power and understanding.understanding of the world.]]
%%* {{Seer}}:



%%* BroughtDownToNormal

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%%* BroughtDownToNormal** BroughtDownToNormal: [[spoiler: Though Matt comes back to life, their link is severed and thus, Loren loses his ability to cast spells.]]



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Loren takes too much of his life force - on Matt's request - to overpower Metran and dies as a result. He gets better.]]



* EvilChancellor: Actually a double subversion, everyone is led to believe that Gorlaes is a cliched evil chancellor, turns out there is an evil chancellor... but it's Metran.

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* EvilChancellor: Actually a double subversion, everyone subversion. Everyone is led to believe that Gorlaes is a cliched evil chancellor, turns out there is an evil chancellor... but it's Metran.



* BelligerentSexualTension: it's subtle, but it's there with Paul.

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* BelligerentSexualTension: it's subtle, but it's there with Paul. [[spoiler: And then it's confirmed.]]



%%* LastMinuteHookup:

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%%* LastMinuteHookup:* LastMinuteHookup: [[spoiler: With Paul.]]



* OppositesAttract: She and Paul are both the physical representations of the Mother-Goddess and All-Father Archetypes, so of course they are going to do this. Also the whole {{Kuudere}}[=/=]{{Tsundere}} thing.
* SlapSlapKiss: Though it takes a while before the first kiss.

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* OppositesAttract: [[spoiler: She and Paul are both the physical representations of the Mother-Goddess and All-Father Archetypes, so of course they are going to do this. to.]] Also the whole {{Kuudere}}[=/=]{{Tsundere}} thing.
* SlapSlapKiss: Though it takes a while before all the first kiss.way back to [[spoiler: the end of Book 3]] for a kiss to happen.



*AChildShallLeadThem: [[spoiler: Owein's Wild Hunt cannot proceed without a child.]]



* ChildByRape: Born explicitly because Maugrim did not expect to conceive a child, which means that, logically, Darien's birth goes against his plans.

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* ChildByRape: Born [[spoiler:Born explicitly because Maugrim did not expect to conceive a child, which means that, logically, Darien's birth goes against his plans.]]



* WarringNatures: Between that coming from his mother's, and that of his father's.

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* WarringNatures: Between that coming from his mother's, and that of his father's.
father's. [[spoiler: He eventually chooses the former.]]
* WildCard: The heroes ultimately leave it to him to decide where he wants to belong. [[spoiler: He chooses the good side after symphatizing with The Dark for so long.]]



* StoutStrength: Fat but quite strong.

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* StoutStrength: Fat but quite strong.
strong, enough to not only lift Diarmuid on a piggyback but to act as his "mount" during a mock battle.



* EyelessFace: All he has is a pair of empty sockets.



* ActionGirl:
* OddCouple: Forms a friendship with Kim... who is white haired.

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* ActionGirl:
* OddCouple: Forms
ActionGirl: She sneaks out of Cathal, goes all the way to Paras Derval and takes a friendship with Kim... who is white haired.shot [[spoiler: at assassinating Diarmuid]]. That takes some skill to pull off.



%%* EvilLaugh
%%* EvilOverlord
* GodOfEvil: Sort of. He kinda is, but also isn't subject to the exact same rules as the rest of gods in Fionavar.

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%%* EvilLaugh
%%* EvilOverlord
* EvilLaugh: Prone to these, and quite often.
* GodOfEvil: Sort of. He kinda is, but also isn't subject to the exact same rules as the rest of gods in Fionavar.Fionavar, see below.
* HumanoidAbomination: For starters, he's from outside the Tapestry and lacks a face. Consider that literally everything has a place on the Tapestry.



* WeaksauceWeakness: Having a child puts him on the Tapestry and makes him killable. [[spoiler:Which makes Darien so dangerous to him.]]

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* VillainBall: He is likely aware of his WeaksauceWeakness, so [[spoiler: leaving Jennifer alive after raping her]] was sure to backfire. Granted, he did leave her in hands of a subordinate and he ''couldn't'' anticipate [[spoiler: Baelreath whisking The Five back to Earth]], but still.
* WeaksauceWeakness: [[spoiler: Having a child puts him on the Tapestry and makes him killable. [[spoiler:Which killable, which makes Darien so dangerous to him.]]



%%* TheDragon
%%* DragonWithAnAgenda

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%%* * TheDragon
%%* DragonWithAnAgenda** DragonWithAnAgenda: He wishes to completely destroy the universe rather than have Rakoth rule what's left of it. Rakoth himself is entirely aware of this and finds it mildly amusing.




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*FeatheredFiend




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* OutOfFocus: She has a single scene in Book 2 and then vanishes from the plot completely, only briefly mentioned as a caretaker of [[spoiler: Rakoth's Dragon.]]



* {{Badass}}: His screentime is limited, but in two of three scenes he's in he gets to kick a lot of ass. He carves through the lines of Dalrei and lios alfar almost effortlessly and [[spoiler: nearly walks away from his fight with Diarmuid with only minor injuries.]]




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* InexplicablyAwesome: It's said Rakoth did ''something'' to him to make him bigger, stronger, smarter and wordier than other urgachs. Nobody ever gets to know what that is.
* ManInWhite: Explicitly to mock the good guys.
* ThrowingDownTheGauntlet: [[spoiler: And Diarmuid responds.]]



!Blod
* TheBrute: A position shared with Uathach, given they both lead two different armies.
* CombatPragmatist: Throws a dagger at [[spoiler: Matt]] once he ensures that he can go scot free if he kills him. This being high fantasy, it doesn't work out for him.



* ForegoneConclusion: In-universe, he knows he will never be able to make it to the final battle of any war because of his punishment. [[spoiler: Then he makes it to the final battle of this war.]]
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Averted.]] It looks like he will die in the battle against Uathach. [[spoiler: However, Diarmund takes his place in this fight and dies instead.]]

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* ForegoneConclusion: In-universe, he knows he will never be able to make it to the final battle of any war because of his punishment. [[spoiler: Then he makes it to the final battle of this war.war ''and'' gets a happy ending.]]
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Averted.]] It looks like he will die in the battle against Uathach. [[spoiler: However, Diarmund takes his place in this fight and dies instead.]] He survives the battle the following day as well]]



* HeroicSacrifice: She dies taking out Rakoth's dragon, and if she didn't, the war would have been lost.

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* HeroicSacrifice: She dies taking out [[spoiler: Rakoth's dragon, dragon]], and if she didn't, the war would have been lost.


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!Faebur
*TheArcher
*HeelFaceTurn: Was originally a mountain bandit, though the death of their leader and Kim's explanation had him join her instead.
*LastOfHisKind: [[spoiler: Last of Eridu, to be exact.]]

!Ruana
*ActualPacifist: He and the rest of Paraiko refuse to engage in ''any'' sort of violence, period. Not even Baelreath can convince them otherwise, though [[spoiler: it can convince them to leave Khath Meigol and purify Eridu.]]
*BigDamnHeroes: Shows up at the end of the final battle to [[spoiler: bind Owein and The Wild Hunt once more.]]
*GentleGiant: Quite literally, considering what Paraiko are.

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%%* TheQuietOne

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%%* TheQuietOne* TheQuietOne
* TheStoic

!Leith



!Leith
%%* TheStoic



%%* CoolOldGuy:

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%%* CoolOldGuy:* CoolOldGuy: He's a pretty nice guy, all things considered. He often jokes around with Liane.



%%* ActionGirl:

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%%* * ActionGirl:



%%* EvilIsDeathlyCold

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%%* * EvilIsDeathlyCold



%%* TheBrute

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%%* * TheBrute



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[[WMG:The [[folder:The Gods and Heroes of Legend]]



* BackFromTheDead

!Lancelot



* BackFromTheDead: For punishment of his heinous crimes, he must constantly be re-awoken and die in battle.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: He probably has to work the hardest to do this.
* ForegoneConclusion: In-universe, he knows he will never be able to make it to the final battle of any war because of his punishment. [[spoiler: Then he makes it to the final battle of this war.]]
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Averted.]] It looks like he will die in the battle against Uathach. [[spoiler: However, Diarmund takes his place in this fight and dies instead.]]
* WouldHurtAChild: He is known as the "childslayer" for his killing of many children.

!Lancelot

* {{Badass}}



!Revor

* BadAss: Possibly the most badass of any Rider.
* SignatureMove: The "Revor's Kill", which involves standing down the enemy and letting your blade slice into them.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:Other Characters]]



* WingedUnicorn

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* WingedUnicornHeroicSacrifice: She dies taking out Rakoth's dragon, and if she didn't, the war would have been lost.
* WingedUnicorn

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[[WMG:Brennin]]

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[[WMG:Brennin]]
[[folder:Brennin]]



* BatmanGambit: Pulls off one in order to convince Shalhassan's army not to attack the kingdom.



[[WMG:Diarmuid's Band]]

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[[WMG:Diarmuid's [[/folder]]

[[folder:Diarmund's
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[[WMG:The Dalrei]]

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[[WMG:The [[/folder]]

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[[WMG:Cathal]]

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[[WMG:Cathal]]
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[[folder:Cathal]]



[[WMG:Lios Alfar]]

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[[WMG:Lios [[/folder]]

[[folder:Lios
Alfar]]



[[WMG:The Dark]]

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[[WMG:The [[/folder]]

[[folder:The
Dark]]




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* WeaksauceWeakness: Having a child puts him on the Tapestry and makes him killable. [[spoiler:Which makes Darien so dangerous to him.]]



[[/folder]]



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%%* BackFromTheDead

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%%* {{Badass}}
%%*
* BackFromTheDead



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%%* * BackFromTheDead



%%* WingedUnicorn

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%%* * WingedUnicorn

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[[WMG:The Five]]

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[[folder:The
Five]]
Five friends from Canada, sent to Fionavar to celebrate the crowning of a new monarch. However, not everything is as it seems, and these five are dragged into something greater than they could have realized.

!The Five as a Whole

* BadAss: All five [[spoiler: three at the end]] are this by the end of the series.
* FiveManBand:
** TheHero: Paul
** TheLancer: Kevin
** TheSmartGuy: Kimberley
** TheBigGuy: Dave
** TheChick: Jennifer
* HiddenDepths: All five of these characters have new sides that are eventually seen.



%%* ReallyGetsAround:

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%%* ReallyGetsAround:
ReallyGetsAround: There are quite a few women who he spends a night with.


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* TookALevelInBadass: After he spends three days and nights on the summer tree, he gets much more powerful.


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[[/folder]]
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* RuleOfSymbolism: Paul is pretty obviously supposed to be an analogue to [[NorseMythology Odin.]]

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* RuleOfSymbolism: Paul is pretty obviously supposed to be an analogue to [[NorseMythology [[Myth/NorseMythology Odin.]]

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%%* AnAxeToGrind

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%%* AnAxeToGrind* AnAxeToGrind: Specifically because it does not need exhaustive training. He turns out really proficient.



* BadassBookWorm: He's a mage but he can use magic...and is good with a sword.

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* BadassBookWorm: He's a mage but he can use magic... and is good with a sword.



%%* RedEyesTakeWarning

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%%* RedEyesTakeWarning* RedEyesTakeWarning: His eyes flash red whenever he gets angered.



* StraightGay: It's implied he's in love with Diarmuid.

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* %%* StraightGay: It's implied he's in love with Diarmuid.



* OddCouple: Forms a friendship with Kim...who is white haired.

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* OddCouple: Forms a friendship with Kim... who is white haired.



* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: A mad artist using his rhetorical skill to take over an entire people. Genocide is a result. Hmm...



* MasterSwordsman: It's Lancelot.

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* MasterSwordsman: It's Lancelot.Lancelot, duh, the best knight of Arthur's court. And boy, does he back up his reputation.
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%%* MasterSwordsman
* KnightInShiningArmor: It's Lancelot, duh. All that he asked for after [[spoiler:defeating a huge, many-armed, burning, shapeshifting earth elemental]] was to never speak of this fight again, since he did it after asking a bystander for help.

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%%* MasterSwordsman
* MasterSwordsman: It's Lancelot.
* KnightInShiningArmor: It's Lancelot, duh. All that he asked for after [[spoiler:defeating a huge, many-armed, burning, shapeshifting shapeshifting, regenerating earth elemental]] was to never speak of this fight again, since he did it after asking a bystander for some minor help.

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* BigEater: The tribe's hunters occasionally catch an additional animal just for him.



* DirtyOldMan: He likes to joke how, back in his day, girls would be obliged to lie with a shaman like him.







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* KnightInShiningArmor: It's Lancelot, duh. All that he asked for after [[spoiler:defeating a huge, many-armed, burning, shapeshifting earth elemental]] was to never speak of this fight again, since he did it after asking a bystander for help.

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Fionavar Tapestry has LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters.

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Fionavar Tapestry %%Zero Context Examples have been commented out. Add context before uncommenting them.

''Literature/TheFionavarTapestry''
has LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters.



* TheAce: At least for much of the first book until the second...
** BrokenAce: He learns that he can't fight and begins to doubt himself.
* EthicalSlut

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* %%* TheAce: At least for much of the first book until the second...
** * BrokenAce: He learns that he can't fight and begins to doubt himself.
* %%* EthicalSlut



* TheLoad
* ReallyGetsAround:

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* %%* TheLoad
* %%* ReallyGetsAround:



* ArtifactOfPower: She becomes the custodian of several.



* {{Seers}}
* ShorterMeansSmarter: Often described as 'slight.'
* TheSmartGuy:

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* %%* {{Seers}}
* %%* ShorterMeansSmarter: Often described as 'slight.'
* %%* TheSmartGuy:



* ArchEnemy: [[spoiler: Galadan]]
* BackFromTheDead: He dies and is reborn as "Pwyll Twiceborn"
* BelligerentSexualTension

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* %%* ArchEnemy: [[spoiler: Galadan]]
* BackFromTheDead: He dies and is reborn as "Pwyll Twiceborn"
*
Twiceborn".
%%*
BelligerentSexualTension



* DeathSeeker
* TheDeterminator
* EvilCounterpart: [[spoiler: Galadan is his.]]
* FaceDeathWithDignity
* HeroicSacrifice: He hangs himself on the summer tree
* HeroicWillpower
* {{Kuudere}}: Of course, pretty much all the people who have seen his dere side are dead by the end of book two...
* LastMinuteHookup: He almost leaves without admitting he loves Jaelle
* OppositesAttract: Paul is the living incarnation of the All-Father, and Jaelle the head priestess of the Mother-Goddess, so yeah.
* NervesOfSteel

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* %%* DeathSeeker
* %%* TheDeterminator
* %%* EvilCounterpart: [[spoiler: Galadan is his.]]
* %%* FaceDeathWithDignity
* HeroicSacrifice: He hangs himself on the summer tree
*
tree in order to bring rain and end the drought.
%%*
HeroicWillpower
* %%* {{Kuudere}}: Of course, pretty much all the people who have seen his dere side are dead by the end of book two...
* LastMinuteHookup: He almost leaves without admitting he loves Jaelle
Jaelle.
* OppositesAttract: Paul is the living incarnation of the All-Father, and Jaelle the head priestess of the Mother-Goddess, so yeah.
*
Mother-Goddess.
%%*
NervesOfSteel



* SmartPeoplePlayChess

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* %%* SmartPeoplePlayChess



** StoicWoobie
* TroubledButCute

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* %%* TroubledButCute



* TheChick

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* %%* TheChick



* AllLoveIsUnrequited: Had a thing for Liane but it didn't go far.
** He did get to bang a goddess as his consolation prize however...
* AnAxeToGrind
* BadAss
* BadAssNormal
* BashBrothers: With Torc and Levon.
* TheBerserker: Easy to bring him out of it though.
* BigBrotherMentor: To Tabor but briefly.
* TheBigGuy
* [[spoiler:CoolOldGuy: Becomes one in Ysabel.]]
* HotBlooded

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* AllLoveIsUnrequited: Had a thing for Liane but it didn't go far.
**
far. He did get to bang a goddess as his consolation prize however...
* %%* AnAxeToGrind
* BadAss
* BadAssNormal
*
%%* BadassNormal
%%*
BashBrothers: With Torc and Levon.
* %%* TheBerserker: Easy to bring him out of it though.
* %%* BigBrotherMentor: To Tabor but briefly.
* %%* TheBigGuy
* [[spoiler:CoolOldGuy: %%* CoolOldGuy: Becomes one in Ysabel.]]
*
Ysabel.
%%*
HotBlooded



* TheHighKing
* SmartPeoplePlayChess

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* %%* TheHighKing
* %%* SmartPeoplePlayChess



* BadAss:
* CelibateHero: Possibly...

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* BadAss:
*
%%* {{Badass}}
%%*
CelibateHero: Possibly...



* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething:
* TheStoic:
** [[spoiler: NotSoStoic: When his brother dies.]]
* SupportingLeader
* WhatTheHellHero: Gets one from Paul.

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* %%* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething:
* %%* TheStoic:
** [[spoiler: %%* NotSoStoic: When his brother dies.]]
*
dies.
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SupportingLeader
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* BadAss
* TheCasanova

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* BadAss
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* ReallyGetsAround:
* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething:

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* %%* ReallyGetsAround:
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* CoolOldLady:
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: She gave her life so Kim could gain knowledge and understanding.]]
* {{Seer}}:

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* %%* CoolOldLady:
* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: She [[spoiler:She gave her life so Kim could gain knowledge and understanding.]]
* %%* {{Seer}}:



* BadAssBookWorm: He's a mage but he can use magic...and is good with a sword.
* [[spoiler:BroughtDownToNormal]]

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* BadAssBookWorm: BadassBookWorm: He's a mage but he can use magic...and is good with a sword.
* [[spoiler:BroughtDownToNormal]]%%* BroughtDownToNormal



* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler: During the holiday in Ystrat he and Kim have sex.]] True she was an adult but he's at least 50, YMMV on if it's squicky.
* TheSmartGuy:

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* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler: During [[spoiler:During the holiday in Ystrat he and Kim have sex.]] True she was an adult but he's at least 50, YMMV on if it's squicky.
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* BadAss:
* CoolOldGuy:
* EyepatchOfPower:

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* TheQuietOne:
* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething:

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* EvilChancellor: Actually a double subversion, everyone is led to believe that Gorlaes is a cliched evil chancellor, turns out there is an evil chancellor... but It's Metran.
* [[spoiler:ObfuscatingInsanity: Fakes being old and senile to get close to Ailell]]

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* EvilChancellor: Actually a double subversion, everyone is led to believe that Gorlaes is a cliched evil chancellor, turns out there is an evil chancellor... but It's it's Metran.
* [[spoiler:ObfuscatingInsanity: ObfuscatingInsanity: Fakes being old and senile to get close to Ailell]]
Ailell.



* BloodMagic
* DefrostingTheIceQueen
* DoesNotLikeMen:
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* OppositesAttract: She and Paul are both the physical representations of the Mother-Goddess and All-Father Archetypes, so of course they are going to do this.
** Also the whole KuuDere / TsunDere thing.

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* OppositesAttract: She and Paul are both the physical representations of the Mother-Goddess and All-Father Archetypes, so of course they are going to do this.
**
this. Also the whole KuuDere / TsunDere {{Kuudere}}[=/=]{{Tsundere}} thing.



* TsunDere

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* ChekhovsGunman

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* IJustWantToBeLoved

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* RedEyesTakeWarning
* VoluntaryShapeshifting

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* %%* RedEyesTakeWarning
* %%* VoluntaryShapeshifting



* BadAss:
* TheStoic
* [[spoiler:StraightGay: It's implied he's in love with Diarmuid]]

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* BadAss:
*
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TheStoic
* [[spoiler:StraightGay: StraightGay: It's implied he's in love with Diarmuid]]
Diarmuid.



* CoolOldGuy
* PapaWolf

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* %%* PapaWolf



* BadAss
* CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming: [[spoiler: Getting reunited with his father.]]

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* BadAss
%%* {{Badass}}
* CrowningMomentOfHeartWarming: [[spoiler: Getting [[spoiler:Getting reunited with his father.]]



* TheQuietOne
* TheStoic

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* %%* TheStoic



* TheStoic

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* %%* TheStoic



* TheAce

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* %%* TheAce



* CoolOldGuy:
* TheSmartGuy:

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* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Partially... he tended to love making great quotes and promptly did the opposite however he was ready to fight in the war.

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* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Partially... he tended to love making great quotes and promptly did the opposite opposite, however he was ready to fight in the war.



* ActionGirl:

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* %%* ActionGirl:



* SlapSlapKiss: [[spoiler: A near-lethal version with Diarmuid.]]

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* SlapSlapKiss: [[spoiler: A [[spoiler:A near-lethal version with Diarmuid.]]



* BeautyEqualsGoodness

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* %%* BeautyEqualsGoodness



* BigBad
* EvilLaugh
* EvilOverlord

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* %%* EvilLaugh
* %%* EvilOverlord



* TheDragon
* DragonWithAnAgenda
* Expy: In his Silmarillion days [[TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]] was known as Thu the Wolflord.
* EvilCounterpart: To Paul.

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* %%* TheDragon
* %%* DragonWithAnAgenda
* Expy: {{Expy}}: In his Silmarillion days [[TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]] was known as Thu the Wolflord.
* %%* EvilCounterpart: To Paul.



* OmnicidalManiac
* SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum
* VoluntaryShapeshifting

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* %%* OmnicidalManiac
* %%* SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum
* %%* VoluntaryShapeshifting






* EvilIsDeathlyCold

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* %%* EvilIsDeathlyCold



* TheBrute

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* %%* TheBrute



* BadAss
* BackFromTheDead

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* BadAss
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* BadAss
* BackFromTheDead
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* BadAss
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* HeroicSacrifice

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* HeroicSacrificeHeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Accepts Uathach's challenge before the rest of the lot decide who should do so, despite knowing he has little chance of victory. This allows Arthur, Lancelot and Jen a Happy Ending.]]



* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler: During the holiday in Ysarat he and Kim have sex.]] True she was an adult but he's at least 50, YMMV on if it's squicky.

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* MayDecemberRomance: [[spoiler: During the holiday in Ysarat Ystrat he and Kim have sex.]] True she was an adult but he's at least 50, YMMV on if it's squicky.



* HeroicSacrifice

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* HeroicSacrificeHeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler:Kills himself on the magical dagger Rakoth's holding, which, because of the dagger's enchantments, [[TakingYouWithMe causes his death]].]]



* OwlBeDamned

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* OwlBeDamnedOwlBeDamned: Takes the form of an owl, and in his confusion for most of the story he's up to no good.



* WarringNatures

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* WarringNatures
WarringNatures: Between that coming from his mother's, and that of his father's.



* BigBadassWolf

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* EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses: She's
* TheLoad: Though she has an understandable reason for being this way.

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* EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses: She's
She's a reincarnation of Guinevere.
* TheLoad: Though she has an understandable reason for being this way. Then she starts to play the role of Guinevere.




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* TheHighKing
* SmartPeoplePlayChess
* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: The drought that his kingdom suffers from is attributed to the fact that he didn't do [[HeroicSacrifice something]], and didn't let his son do it in his stead.



* JerkAss: Can be gruff but he's kind of got his hands full fighting Ragoth.

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* JerkAss: Can be gruff but he's kind of got his hands full fighting Ragoth.Rakoth. It's that anything that doesn't directly involve the war with Maugrim barely receives any of his attention.



* HeroicSacrifice




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!Darien
* ChekhovsGunman
* ChildByRape: Born explicitly because Maugrim did not expect to conceive a child, which means that, logically, Darien's birth goes against his plans.
* HeroicSacrifice
* IJustWantToBeLoved
* OwlBeDamned
* RedEyesTakeWarning
* VoluntaryShapeshifting
* WarringNatures




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* TheStoic



* TheEmperor: He is presented with this kind of image, but he is staunchly on the side of Light. Once the war with Maugrim starts for good, his bad side is downplayed.



* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Partially...he tended to love making great quotes and promplty did the opposite however he was ready to fight in the war.

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* RoyalsWhoActuallyDoSomething: Partially... he tended to love making great quotes and promplty promptly did the opposite however he was ready to fight in the war.




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* GodOfEvil: Sort of. He kinda is, but also isn't subject to the exact same rules as the rest of gods in Fionavar.
* {{Satan}}: "Sathain". Given that his influence is felt throughout all the worlds in the Tapestry, this is a rather secure association to make.



* OmnicidalManiac

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* OmnicidalManiacBigBadassWolf



* Expy: In his silmarillion days [[TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]] was known as Thu the Wolflord.

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* Expy: In his silmarillion Silmarillion days [[TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]] was known as Thu the Wolflord.



* OmnicidalManiac




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* EvilIsDeathlyCold




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* TheBrute

!Kaen
* MadArtist: He isn't even obviously evil (that goes to his brother), but so obsessed with artifice he's willing to side with Rakoth just so he can find an ancient magical artifact. He doesn't even keep it afterwards.
* MoreThanMindControl: He's such a masterful speaker that he manages to pull the Dwarves to the side of Darkness.



!Imraith Nimphais
* ActionGirl

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!Imraith Nimphais
!Imraith-Nimphais
* ActionGirlActionGirl: As much as it can be said about a female spirit-slash-winged unicorn.

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!Jennifer Lowe

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!Jennifer Lowe
Lowell



* [[spoiler:BroughtDownToNormal]]



* IncrediblyLamePun: He says one or two 'eye' jokes.

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* IncrediblyLamePun: He says one or two 'eye' jokes. Kim tells him she could forgive anything he did, but never his puns.




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* MasterSwordsman



* ActionGirl

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* ActionGirlActionGirl
* WingedUnicorn
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* VoluntaryShapeshifting.

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* VoluntaryShapeshifting.
VoluntaryShapeshifting
* WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds: Turned rather genocidal towards mortals after one stole his girlfriend - but when said mortal wound up getting her killed, he went crazy and decided that the only way to end his pain was to destroy the universe. The only time in the trilogy he shows genuine emotion is when he finds some of the heroes apparently "desecrating" his shrine to her, [[spoiler:and at the very end, when the heroes spare him and he realizes that there is some good in the world - and in himself.]]
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* [[spoiler:WhiteHairedPrettyGirl: After she becomes the new Seer]]

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* [[spoiler:WhiteHairedPrettyGirl: After she becomes the new Seer]]
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* AntiHero: [[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type II]].



* AntiHero: [[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type III]].



* AntiHero: [[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type II]].
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* GrandpaWhatMassiveHotnessYouHave: How some picture him and it'd help for once scene.
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* TheArcher
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* BeyondTheImpossible: His fight with Curdardh in Pendaran Wood.

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* BeyondTheImpossible: His fight with Curdardh in Pendaran Wood.
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* Pride: A primary character trait, unusual in that it's portrayed as a strength rather than a flaw.

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* Pride: {{Pride}}: A primary character trait, unusual in that it's portrayed as a strength rather than a flaw.
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* KuuDere: Of course, pretty much all the people who have seen his dere side are dead by the end of book two...

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* KuuDere: {{Kuudere}}: Of course, pretty much all the people who have seen his dere side are dead by the end of book two...

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* TheAragorn:


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* SupportingLeader

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* TearJerker: His death and the lead up.

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* TearJerker: His death and the lead up.



* TearJerker: The scene that reveals what happened to his fiancee, Rachel: they were driving home when she told him she was in love with someone else. Then their car crashed. She died, and he blames himself, feeling that he subconsciously rolled the car as an act of revenge.



* OneTrueThreesome: With Arthur and Lancelot.



* TearJerker: Rakoth raping and trying to break her as well as the fate of her being Gwen and Arthur and Lancelot being her great loves

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* TearJerker: Rakoth raping and trying to break her as well as the fate of her being Gwen and Arthur and Lancelot being her great loves



* TearJerker: [[spoiler: He learns that he has to leave Fionavar despite feeling like he belongs there. However he's learned a lot about himself and finds the courage to ask Kim out in the end.]]



* CrazyAwesome:
* CrowningMomentofAwesome: [[spoiler: his fight with Urgath.]]



* TearJerker: [[spoiler: His death.]]

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* TearJerker: [[spoiler: His death.]]



* HoYay: Sure feels like he and Matt had a MeetCute some point.



* CompleteMonster:



* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Commanding his ship in a very violent storm.



* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Sending his spirit out to help forge a link between Paul, the earth, and Liranan god of the sea at a critical moment.



* ValuesDissonance: Little is made of the age difference between her and Diarmuid (17-24/25) however in such times that was quite common age for women to marry. For the most part the two do love each other dearly.
** Somewhat more troubling is [[KickTheDog having the captain of the guard garroted]] as part of a temper tantrum.

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* ValuesDissonance: Little is made of the age difference between her and Diarmuid (17-24/25) however in such times that was quite common age for women to marry. For the most part the two do love each other dearly.
** Somewhat more troubling is [[KickTheDog having the captain of the guard garroted]] as part of a temper tantrum.



* CompleteMonster



* MoralEventHorizon: Raping and torturing Jennifer.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Raping and torturing Jennifer.



* {{Squick}}


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* {{Squick}}





* OneTrueThreesome: With Gueneviere and Lancelot

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* OneTrueThreesome: With Gueneviere and Lancelot



* OneTrueThreesome: With Jen/Gueneviere and Lancelot at the end.

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* OneTrueThreesome: With Jen/Gueneviere and Lancelot at the end.

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* KickTheDog: The first time he's in a scene he has a slave gladiator murdered because the guy didn't bow deep enough, probably because the guy had been injured in a fight.




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** Somewhat more troubling is [[KickTheDog having the captain of the guard garroted]] as part of a temper tantrum.



* CompleteMonster

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* CompleteMonster CompleteMonster
* EvilLaugh




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* MoralEventHorizon: Raping and torturing Jennifer.



* AntiVillain: Seems to be an attempt to invoke a type II, but his FreudianExcuse is so ridiculously flimsy that it doesn't really work.



* Expy: In his silmarillion days [[TheLordOfTheRings Sauron]] was known as Thu the Wolflord.
* EvilCounterpart: To Paul.




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* SuicidalCosmicTemperTantrum
* VoluntaryShapeshifting.

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* EthicalSlut



* LivingEmotionalCrutch: Tries really hard to be this to Paul in the first book.
* TheLoad



* ArtifactOfPower: She becomes the custodian of several.



* AntiHero: [[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type II]].



* BigBrotherMentor: Tries to fill this role for Darien, doesn't go so well.
* DeadpanSnarker: Very very deadpan. And usually only with people he feels very comfortable with. Interestingly, he seems to internalize alot of his snarking, as can be seen from the flashback sequence in his last night on the summer tree.



* TheDeterminator



* HeroicWillpower
* KuuDere: Of course, pretty much all the people who have seen his dere side are dead by the end of book two...



* Pride: A primary character trait, unusual in that it's portrayed as a strength rather than a flaw.



* SmartPeoplePlayChess




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* WhenHeSmiles: Subverted, when he smiles its usually described as crooked or mocking and is often in reaction to something tragically ironic happening.



* TheChick



** He did get to bang a goddess as his consolation prize however...



* AntiHero: [[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type III]].




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* WhatTheHellHero: Gets one from Paul.



* AntiHero: [[SlidingScaleOfAntiHeroes Type II]].
* BadAss
* TheCasanova



* EvilChancellor: Actually a double subversion, everyone is led to believe that Gorlaes is a cliched evil chancellor, turns out there is an evil chancellor... but It's Metran.



* BloodMagic




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** Also the whole KuuDere / TsunDere thing.
* SlapSlapKiss: Though it takes a while before the first kiss.
* TsunDere


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* TheArcher
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* ArchEnemy: [[spoiler: Galadan]]


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* EvilCounterpart: [[spoiler: Galadan is his.]]


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* NervesOfSteel


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** StoicWoobie
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'WARNING:' SPOILERS. If we used the spoiler tag on this page, it would look like swiss cheese, so read at your own risk.

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'WARNING:' '''WARNING:''' SPOILERS. If we used the spoiler tag on this page, it would look like swiss cheese, so read at your own risk.



* Tearjerker: The scene that reveals what happened to his fiancee, Rachel: they were driving home when she told him she was in love with someone else. Then their car crashed. She died, and he blames himself, feeling that he subconsciously rolled the car as an act of revenge.

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* Tearjerker: TearJerker: The scene that reveals what happened to his fiancee, Rachel: they were driving home when she told him she was in love with someone else. Then their car crashed. She died, and he blames himself, feeling that he subconsciously rolled the car as an act of revenge.



* EverythingIsBetterWithPrincesses: She's

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* EverythingIsBetterWithPrincesses: EverythingsBetterWithPrincesses: She's



* Tearjerker: Rakoth raping and trying to break her as well as the fate of her being Gwen and Arthur and Lancelot being her great loves

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* Tearjerker: TearJerker: Rakoth raping and trying to break her as well as the fate of her being Gwen and Arthur and Lancelot being her great loves



* AllLoveIsUnrequinted: Had a thing for Liane but it didn't go far.

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* AllLoveIsUnrequinted: AllLoveIsUnrequited: Had a thing for Liane but it didn't go far.



[[spoiler: CoolOldGuy: Becomes one in Ysabel.]]

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[[spoiler: CoolOldGuy: * [[spoiler:CoolOldGuy: Becomes one in Ysabel.]]



* Seer:

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* Seer:
{{Seer}}:



* EyepathOfPower:

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* EyepathOfPower:EyepatchOfPower:



* [[Spoiler:ObfuscatingInsanity: Fakes being old and senile to get close to Ailell]]

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* [[Spoiler:ObfuscatingInsanity: [[spoiler:ObfuscatingInsanity: Fakes being old and senile to get close to Ailell]]



* Doesn'tLikeMen:

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* Doesn'tLikeMen:DoesNotLikeMen:



* Acrofat: Pretty quick for a fat man but his agility needs work.

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* Acrofat: {{Acrofatic}}: Pretty quick for a fat man but his agility needs work.



* [[Spoiler:StraightGay: It's implied he's in love with Diarmuid]]

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* [[Spoiler:StraightGay: [[spoiler:StraightGay: It's implied he's in love with Diarmuid]]



* Beauty Equals Goodness

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* Beauty Equals Goodness
BeautyEqualsGoodness



* Squick


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* Squick

{{Squick}}

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Probably the MostTriumphantExample of this trope. Kay puts her through hell and back.

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* EarnYourHappyEnding: Probably the MostTriumphantExample of this trope. Kay puts her through hell and back.
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!Ivor Dan Bannor

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!Ivor Dan Bannor
Banor



!Leith Dan Bannor

!Levon Dan Bannor

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!Leith Dan Bannor

!Leith

!Levon Dan BannorIvor



!Liane Dan Bannor

!Tabor Dan Bannor

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!Liane Dan Bannor

Ivor

!Tabor Dan Bannor
Ivor

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