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DonaldthePotholer
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02:26:49 PM Sep 10th 2014
edited by 68.1.57.131
The key problem in qualifying Webcomics as Long Runners is a: How many they post a week and b: the propensity for Schedule Slip inherent in a volunteer medium.

The Video Game sister page has the following standard:

To be added, a franchise should have at least six games in its main series and span ten years. Sports games based on real-world leagues are generally disqualified, since they get an update every year.

This recognizes that non-Sports-based franchises are technically sporadic in nature, in that they do not have regular releases.

Thus, I propose a new standard, based on the Videogames' one:

A webcomic shall be classified as a Longrunner if it has posted at least one comic per week for 500 weeks. (Based on 50 out of 52 weeks a year for 10 years)
  • These 500 weeks are in total, not consecutive. You could last for 20 years publishing biweekly and qualify that way. (Technically 19 years, 12 weeks.)
  • For irregular postings, up to 2 comics in any 2 week period may count towards this number.

e.g.: Comic X posted on the 27th of March, didn't post again until the 23rd & 24th of April, and then didn't post again until the 10th of May. Under the exemption in the 2nd bullet point, the comics on the 23rd and 24th would belong to different "weeks" even if this would violate an otherwise-established release structure.

Continuing the example, if the author also posted a comic on the 27th of April in addition to the 23rd and 24th, it would still only count as 2 "weeks", i.e. you can't make up for Schedule Slip by posting a lot at once.

Essentially, this practically disqualifies any comic that posts monthly or bi-weekly that just happens to have been doing so for 120 months or more. Conversely, if an ambitious project struggles under its own weight but keeps posting, albeit irregularly, it's not punished for not meeting the standard the writers set up originally; though they also don't get any benefit from the early accelerated production. Granted, a comic that posts an average of 3 or 6 times a week doesn't get a bonus against a comic that has only posted once a week, but that's the price to pay in order to reward those who still publish consistently, even if it's at a reduced rate.

EDIT: As for stories outside of the main plot, I'm thinking they would count if they aren't either a Poorly Disguised Pilot or a Fully Absorbed Finale to another Webcomic by the same creative team, in which case they'd be counted as part of that Webcomic. Crossovers and Guest Strips count except when PDP or FAF as above.
SeptimusHeap
moderator
01:13:40 AM Sep 11th 2014
The current scheme was decided in a Trope Repair Shop discussion so you'd have to bring it back there.
Medinoc
topic
02:05:04 AM Nov 25th 2013
edited by 213.223.65.98
In light of recent removal by ozzi9816, I must ask:

Is this page REALLY limited to webcomics that are still running?

This sure isn't the case of the main Long Runners page...

Edit: Courtesy list of comics removed:
Telcontar
moderator
02:22:10 AM Nov 25th 2013
I would support adding those back — they did run for a long time.
Medinoc
07:30:05 AM Nov 25th 2013
So do I, by the way.
Medinoc
01:17:10 AM Dec 10th 2013
Prfnoff just added them back.
SilverfiresShadow
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07:17:58 PM Feb 24th 2013
Wouldn't it be smarter to have the files labeled by year, rather than by how many years the comic has been running? That way the page wouldn't have to be updated every year.
Telcontar
moderator
11:41:04 PM Feb 24th 2013
edited by Telcontar
Maybe it's because some comics ran for a few years and then stopped for a while.
tkzv
topic
12:54:25 AM Feb 2nd 2013
1. There are webcomics that ended, but then the author continued the story in another webcomic. For example You Say It First and Walkyverse. Do those count as long runners?

2. If the comic started, say, in 1999, stopped for 2004-2008, then continued more or less uninterrupted, does this count as 5 (2009-present), 10 (1999-2003 + 2009-present) or 13 years?
Medinoc
01:49:37 AM Feb 2nd 2013
I'm no authority, but I'd be inclined to say "yes" to question 1 and "10" to question 2.
KaminoNeko
12:02:25 AM Mar 7th 2013
I came in to open the same discussion as your number 1.

The Walkyverse deserves an honourable mention at the very least.
doubleyouteeeff
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12:19:45 PM Jan 27th 2013
edited by doubleyouteeeff
So is Archive Panic the new article for comic length by page?
SeptimusHeap
moderator
topic
06:31:57 AM Jan 12th 2013
Changed page layout and added commented out warning per [1]
LeeM
topic
09:51:29 PM Nov 30th 2012
I'm PRETTY sure Rogues of Clwyd-Rhan should be here. Began as a print comic in the 90s before being transferred to the web and continued. I'm not sure how many strips there are, but even without counting spinoffs it's gotta be several thousand.
MrInitialMan
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11:35:43 AM Nov 5th 2012
edited by MrInitialMan
A roll-call of comics that have rune for 10 years and longer.

ASBusinessMagnet
07:45:33 AM Nov 27th 2012
In 2002, not even Team Special Olympics or the Gangbunch Fora existed, so MS Paint Adventures being 10 years old is out of question.
Predmikester
topic
06:20:15 AM Jul 7th 2011
Hey, questionable content's 1000th comic was released in 2007, not 2009. look at the copyright at the bottom of the comic. unless guest strips don't count, which i didn't see written.
SergeantLuke
topic
04:04:18 PM Mar 12th 2011
There are a couple comics that are almost certainly worthy of this, but they don't meet the criteria. Neglected Mario Characters is the best example, running from November 1997 to January 2011.
Leetroper
03:46:08 PM Nov 18th 2011
not to mention each "comic" is super long
69.143.43.170
topic
07:51:18 AM Nov 29th 2010
Phil Likes Tacos by Andrew Bilitz (http://fulltimeink.com/plt) has over 3000 strips, and has been running daily since 2002.
162.119.238.160
topic
01:58:59 PM Mar 10th 2010
Only 18 comics? What's the criteria for 'conventional long runners'?
84.198.91.13
06:12:17 PM Sep 1st 2010
Apparently, it's a 1000 strips or more. But what counts as a strip?

Take for example The Goblins. I got no idea at what number of strips he is. But he does at least a page per week and all of them, except the first few pages are full color. Does a full page count as three 'strips'? Would the sunday update that's a bit longer for some webcomics count as two strips then? Would that overly complicate it? The Goblins started in 2005 and released about a page or more each week. That brings him at roughly 50*5=250 pages. If one page is one strip, he'll need another 15 years to become a long runner. If one page counts as three strips, he would need about two, three years to become a long runner.

The difference between for example, Biff with one image/update and The Goblins, with one page/update is quite big. But in a week time they produce roughly the same amount of drawings. If each update is a strip, then someone could potentially come along with a webcomic that's 25 pixels each update. He could become a longrunner in a month. So, to recap, what i'm asking is what exactly is a strip? How is it defined?
Leetroper
03:45:32 PM Nov 18th 2011
Pages. Like for MSPA, one of those "panel and text" is a page. for OOTS, it's the full page. for daily comics that are a few panels long, well that's one strip.
darkmoonfirelyte
07:36:34 PM Jun 6th 2012
And on topic to this short discussion, my comic (not to pimp it, simply noticing on a trawl of TV Tropes) Castlevania RPG has 1750+ official strips in the main archive, but that's just the official numbers. Many comics are multi-part, multi-page strips, which by this reckoning count as one "total" strip. Additionally, there are side-arcs, back stories, and a cross-over comic all officially part of the continuity (and hosted on the site), which brings the total (last I checked) to over 3700 comics.

As I said, I'm not pimping (or trying to increase my own standing). Just a simple clarification of what "counts" would seem to be in order. Would help a lot of people answer the question, anyway. ;)
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