NotOnAnyFlatbread
Not that kind of doctor
Since: May, 2011
Not that kind of doctor
Jan 27th 2016 at 2:31:27 PM
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The following Zero Context Examples have been commented out. They should have sufficient context added before they are made visible again. Note that this is a behavior trope, not simply being a preacher's child—the relevant behavior should be described in enough detail that someone not familiar with the work will understand how the trope applies.
No context (only work, person, and possibly pastoral parent identified; no explanation of behavior):
- The kids in The Preacher's Wife.
- Dane O'Neill, of The Thorn Birds fits into this category, subverted somewhat, because he is unaware of his parentage.
- George Michael's girlfriend Ann Veal in Arrested Development.
- Sturgis Turner in JAG.
- ''The Bible
- Apparently a real problem with the holy men of ancient Israel, as Samuel also had his kids go bad (1 Samuel 8:2,3).
- The protagonists of The Night of the Hunter are Preacher's stepchildren.
- Patrick in Saved!.
- The Meredith kids featured in Rainbow Valley.
- English DJ and presenter of the UK version of Pimp My Ride, Westwood, also known as Timothy Westwood, son of the Anglican Bishop of Peterborough Bill Westwood.
- Marilyn Manson.
- Jessica Simpson
- Donna Barkley of Adventures in Odyssey had to wrestle with this trope, but otherwise she's a fairly normal girl.
- Sam Kinison wasn't just a preacher's kid, he was a preacher himself before going into standup.
- Phil Jackson, the Hall of Fame basketball coach best known as head coach of the Chicago Bulls in the 1990s and the Los Angeles Lakers in the 2000s, is the son of two Assemblies of God ministers.
- Mark Few, current head men's basketball coach at Gonzaga University, is the son of a Presbyterian minister. His father also presided at his wedding.
- John Cho's father is a minister in the Church of Christ.
Insufficient/irrelevant context:
- In Evolution, Me & Other Freaks of Nature, one of Mena's nemeses is the preacher's daughter.
- All the Camdens on 7th Heaven. Which end of the spectrum they tended to was directly related to how old they were that season.
- Jennifer Coates on JAG was diabolic in her Dark and Troubled Past.
- Madonna's "Papa Don't Preach
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- Stan Freberg's father was a Baptist minister. He's admitted that this background helps account for the occasional dips into moralism in his comedy ("Green Chri$tma$", "Incident at Los Voraces").
- Baptist Preacher William J. Murray is the chairman of the Religious Freedom Coalition, author of books such as The Church Is Not For Perfect People, Let Us Pray: A Plea for Prayer in Our Schools, and The Pledge: One Nation Under God. He is the son of (in)famous atheist Madalyn Murray O'Hair, and pressured the police to find out what happened to her.
- The book Bare Your Soul has an essay titled "Daughter of a Preacherman", which hangs a huge lampshade on this trope. The woman who wrote it doesn't fit either category.
NotOnAnyFlatbread
Since: May, 2011
Jan 27th 2016 at 2:46:56 PM
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This example was also removed due to the conflicting natter. If it goes back on the page, it needs be revised into a unified, natter-free example that clearly indicates how she fits the trope.
- Katy Perry also grew up as one of these, and was originally a Christian pop singer before her mainstream turn. Let's just say, her parents were pissed when they first heard "I Kissed a Girl".
- With what she said about Lady Gaga's "Alejandro" music video, she might not be so divergent from her Christian roots as she appears to be.
- Also, one of the reasons for her divorce from Russell Brand was said to be the fact that he often makes jokes at the expense of Christianity (although that could easily be chalked up to her not appreciating her husband mocking her parents).
NotOnAnyFlatbread
Since: May, 2011
Jan 27th 2016 at 2:58:08 PM
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This example is still on the page, but could use a lot more context. How does their initial and/or outward behavior fit the tropes, and how is the subversion revealed?
- Staying Fat for Sarah Byrnes has two examples:
- Steve Ellerby is the "devillish"/irreverent one. Played with (subverted) in that Steve is clearly a good guy from the outset and it later becomes apparent that he is not nearly as irreverent as it first appears.
- Mark Brittain is the angelic/"pure" one. Played with (subverted) in that Mark is nowhere near as pure as he'd like everyone to believe.
And what do you get if both parents are clergy? Of different denominations? You get bi-denominational PKs.
Edited by hbquikcomjamesl