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Tehrannotaur
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08:24:22 PM Feb 5th 2014
edited by 75.23.234.106
Should Hayate the Combat Butler be put on the list? Its third and fourth seasons (although they are purely original stories as opposed to being directly adapted from the manga), respectively Can't Take My Eyes Off of You and Cuties bombed badly (both sold at an average of 949 and 691 copies, respectively). This is in stark contrast compared to season 1, which sold 9525 copies at an average, and season 2, which sold 6,607 copies at an average.
MyFinalEdits
08:42:52 PM Feb 5th 2014
If no more seasons were made afterward, then yes. Otherwise, it'll fit better under Franchise Zombie.
Tehrannotaur
01:35:03 PM Mar 26th 2014
edited by 75.23.234.106
Well, 3 new manga-bundled OV As have been greenlit, so there's no Franchise Killer.
guardianemessiah
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02:56:43 PM Oct 19th 2013
Am I the only one who thinks there needs to be a "Literature" folder?
Larkmarn
02:59:21 PM Oct 19th 2013
If you have some examples, go nuts.
FlyingDuckManGenesis
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01:17:21 PM Jul 17th 2013
Should this be added to the "Video Games" folder, or should an "Advertising" folder be made for this to be added to?

  • 7up once had a mascot of its own, Cool Spot, a tiny anthropomorphic red dot with black sunglasses and white shoes and gloves. There were a few video games featuring the character, such as Spot: The Video Game for the NES and Game Boy and Cool Spot for the Super Nintendo and Sega Genesis, and both those games were pretty well-received. Cool Spot's isometric platformer, Spot Goes To Hollywood for the Sega Genesis, Sega Saturn, and Playstation 1, however, wasn't as well-recieved as the first two games, and its failure ultimately led to Spot's demise.
OldManHoOh
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09:38:18 AM May 16th 2012
edited by OldManHoOh
Was Brosnan dismissed, or did his contract simply play its course? Only four years passed between Day and Casino Royale and the two films share writers and producers, too.
Renelia
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03:29:56 PM Dec 6th 2011
What about Sailor Moon? The franchise hasn't seen anything new since 2004 after the live action series, Pretty Guardian Sailor Moon ended.
Zagen30
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01:16:45 PM Aug 18th 2011
edited by Zagen30
Anyone think Enterprise belongs here? I know Nemesis already sorta covers the franchise, but it came out in 2002, while Enterprise didn't end until 2005, and the only way to get people interested in the franchise again was to reboot and completely change the production staff. At the very least Enterprise seems to have killed off Star Trek on TV for the foreseeable future.

I'm not entirely confident in adding this since the franchise was only technically dead for about 4 years, though that's a long time for Star Trek, seeing as how it ran continuously from 1987 to 2005. Of course, so few people watched Enterprise in its later seasons that one could argue for Nemesis effectively killing the franchise until 2009.
SaltyWaffles
11:25:53 AM Nov 18th 2012
Debatable; it lasted four seasons, and it was the only running Trek show of its time. Meaning that it's possible the franchise as a whole was having problems.
ThatHuman
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07:06:13 AM Jun 9th 2011
Removed:
  • Power Rangers has had a couple of close calls where execs went "This show bombed, but we're already contracted to adapt the next season of Super Sentai, so we've got no choice but to do another season. But it will fail too so it'll be the last season.....Oh! It's a hit! Guess we'll keep going then."
    • The first is Power Rangers Turbo, a serious adaptation of a joke Sentai and which featured a kid taking over as the Blue Ranger. Power Rangers in Space was going to be the end of the franchise until the show's quality and ratings turned it around.
    • In the Disney era there was a stretch with Bruce Kalish as executive producer, culminating in Power Rangers Operation Overdrive and Power Rangers Jungle Fury. Operation Overdrive has Kalish's flaws at their most extreme, relying far too much on spectacle over plot and characterization (even by Power Rangers standards). Jungle Fury wasn't quite so extreme in this regard, but production was generally cheap; This goes both for the show—they couldn't afford a Battlizer because they created extra Rangers—and for the toys, which suffered from declining quality and sales, contributing to the franchise losing the top boys' toys spot to Transformers (which had a massive resurgence of its own at the time, further deterring Power Rangers). Disney was talked into doing one more season and Power Rangers RPM is considered one of the series' best, but Disney (indifferent to the series at the best of times) no longer gave a crap and only Saban buying the rights back has kept it afloat.

Felt more like almost examples, but not quite. Maybe the RPM one counts, but probably not, since it was actually good and the franchise only went on hiatus cos, Disney stopped caring about it.
Zagen30
01:15:21 PM Aug 18th 2011
edited by Zagen30
Whoops, meant to make new topic. See below.
aaeyero
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06:32:32 PM Apr 18th 2011
I'm removing the references to Eragon and The Golden Compass. Those were adaptations, not sequels, so they are really more like Stillborn Franchises. They are actually on that page already, so there's no reason for them to be here as well.
generallykaiden
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11:30:44 PM Feb 5th 2011
Personally, I think that Project Zero/Fatal Frame 3 should be taken off this list. It wasn't exactly panned, and the choice to not release 4 out of Japan was more due to executive meddling and stupid than anything else. (I know a few people who were going to buy a wii just for that game)
71.52.175.87
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05:34:28 PM Nov 26th 2010
edited by 71.52.175.87
Twisted metal III + 4 are a lot more YMMV than you might think. Me and my friends still continue to enjoy those two games to this day. But III and 4 are noticeably of lesser quality than 1 and 2.
CounterBlitzkrieg
09:08:49 AM Aug 28th 2011
Not to mention that Twisted Metal Black was released only 2 years after Twisted Metal 4 so while the two games may have been less than satisfactory, it wasn't really a franchise killer. The whole entry on that seems to be complaining and gloating.
81.221.32.170
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12:06:35 AM Oct 22nd 2010
Is it bad that some of my favorite games (descent 3, quest for glory V) are on this page?
generallykaiden
11:36:33 PM Feb 5th 2011
Couldn't find Quest for Glory V. But Quest for Glory is my among my favourite Pn C Adventure series' But I agree about a few things. I loved Fade to Black, as I greatly enjoyed Fatal Frame III.
97.126.174.142
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07:40:30 PM Aug 1st 2010
Rob Zombie's Halloween movies are far from a franchise killer; even Halloween II managed to make a decent profit, despite being a critical and commercial disappointment, and the Weinsteins announced their third film the weekend Halloween II was released.
99.181.230.148
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11:28:24 AM Jul 13th 2010
Removed:
  • The Game Breaking Bugs and ill-conceived RPG Elements in Angel of Darkness had officially driven the Tomb Raider series into the ground, so development duties were handed off to Crystal Dynamics, who brought the series back into favor with Tomb Raider Legend, but may very well have killed the franchise again with the average-scoring Tomb Raider: Underworld, a game almost as rushed and buggy as the ones that killed the series the first time.
    • Don't forget the examples that belong in the column above: the second movie pretty much killed off any hope for a third movie, at least with Angelina Jolie in it.
    • Actually, the game is getting a ninth game (Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light) now that Eidos has been purchased by Square Enix and is becoming Square Enix Europe.

It's pretty clear that the franchise is not dead and therefore none of these was a Franchise Killer.
Fallingwater
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06:54:38 AM Jun 20th 2010
Blood II is listed as an example. But, wasn't it a fairly popular game? I remember it as such - walkthrough, cheats and talk about it were quite common back in its day. It was buggy, yes, but patches eventually fixed it.
SomeSortOfTroper
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10:08:52 AM May 8th 2010
Taking off Subjective Tropes because this is easily categorised in terms of objective criteria. Mr. Studio Exec. doesn't make new franchise installments because the last one failed. What the creators do is in the realm of "The Universe" which comes under objective reality.
SomeSortOfTroper
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09:49:57 AM May 8th 2010
Stillborn Franchise was launched today. At the moment I've just slightly adjusted the description of this page, seeing Stillborn Franchise as more of a subtrope than outright split, which helps keep Franchise Killer covering some of the less easily classified cases. However to prevent later misplacement of articles it may be necessary to change the write-up more so that it much more stongly implies that this is the place for sequels and later items that kill the already alive franchise.

I'll get to moving over relevant examples.
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