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AltoonaMan
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04:28:46 PM Sep 15th 2011
Sheesh. Is anything a trope anymore? It seems we're trying to become a media version of Wikipedia? How long until obscure shows are deleted for not being notable enough, tropes that don't have a neutral point of view are eliminated, and you need to cite sources for quotes and factual statements? I say this because a lot of tropes that were here for years are suddenly being declared not a trope and the perfectly good titles are being changed into NPOV titles.
nuclearneo577
06:27:34 PM Sep 15th 2011
It was real life only. If we were becoming more like Wikipedia we would have kept this.
Webby
02:27:22 PM Sep 28th 2011
^ Agreed. A trope is a convention used in fiction.
Webby
topic
04:36:20 PM Sep 6th 2011
...Those pictures do not all look alike. Not really.
Alrune
topic
12:15:10 AM Aug 30th 2011
Cutlisting is not advisable. It's been referenced in too many pages and the Trope Repair Shop discussion is pending as to how to rework this. Many dissent about whether or no it's a trope but it's been in the YKTTW long enough and discussed long enough before launching.
Madrugada
moderator
05:49:58 PM Aug 30th 2011
This is in TRS right now to decide what to do with it, and if there's a trope here, hidden in a badly written page, or not. Cutlisting it is an attempt to force the issue.

At this time I oppose cutting it.
Stoogebie
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09:41:31 AM Jun 8th 2011
edited by Stoogebie
Found this under "Music":

Okay...seriously? First of all, why fault those women for having a certain look to them, and secondly, since when does Katy Perry look just like Amy Lee?! If you seriously think they look "(almost) exactly the same" then it's not Hollywood, it's your eyesight that's the problem here!
Wardog
topic
12:23:02 PM Jun 7th 2011
edited by Wardog
Unintentional Nightmare Fuel - My first impression on reading the line "The second type is made of large eyes..."
rosebud64
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02:16:01 PM May 18th 2011
I'm sorry, I feel that this article is saying Beauty Is Bad. Was the writer of this a Holly Wood Homely Shrinking Violet who was picked on by The Libby? (Where's Dr. Freud when you need him?) Is every beautiful woman a shallow Jerk Ass at best, or a Complete Monster at worst? WTF? You sound like an unnsympathetic whiner. I'm sorry.
Stoogebie
09:47:28 AM Jun 8th 2011
I agree. The article acts as though there is no way to distinguish one Hollywood actress from another, and that physical features that are considered attractive (large eyes, pert/cute nose, thin/full lips, face shape, etc.) are ridiculously rare genetic mutations. Maybe I just happen to live around pretty people, or I'm just too idealistic, but it's not like achieving the so-called "Cookie Cutter Cuties" look is unreasonable. Heck, not every celebrity is under that type.
Latia
topic
01:10:56 PM Jul 25th 2010
So like, am I the only who thinks this trope is a) unnecessary, b) has a standard that varies from person to person, and c) has no real defintion?
AnonymousMcCartneyfan
04:17:10 PM Aug 5th 2010
The standards that fall under this trope are clearly defined in the description. (There are three of them.) That covers points b and c...
Prfnoff
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01:54:27 PM Jul 17th 2010
This is quite bad. It's written in a needlessly provocative manner, and supports its thesis with links to some extremely shrill rants. It tendentiously tries to cover the looks of all famous actresses, including the exceptions.
Alrune
07:44:50 AM Jul 18th 2010
edited by Alrune
Oh... So now we're not supposed to point out to things that are obviously offensive BECAUSE they are offensive? Hollywood Style beauty tropes are all offensive and loaded with Unfortunate Implications. Don't like it? Complain to the casters. We're just pointing out to the logical outcome of Hollywood Homely, Hollywood Pudgy, Hollywood Old and Hollywood Thin. It's not ranting, it's just stating the existence of a casting trope.
Prfnoff
08:59:04 AM Jul 18th 2010
edited by Prfnoff
Yes, it was ranting, as you originally wrote it. That's why I mercilessly edited the description down and removed all the averted examples. Remember, Tropes Are Tools.

This trope stands a chance of survival now, so long as it doesn't contain gratuitous inflammatory boasts like saying that it is "hardly ever brought up into discussion due to the ruckus it would cause."
Alrune
09:09:37 AM Jul 18th 2010
You Northern Americans and your squeamishness... Fine, if that's what it takes so that you precious feelings don't get hurt, just go on. We need Moral Guardians after all.
Madrugada
moderator
07:16:54 PM Jul 18th 2010
It's not a question of "North Americans and [our] squeamishness", Alrune. It's about the fact that this wiki is not a soapbox, nor an appropriate place for essays on sociology, psychology, ideology, feminism, sexism, or any other -ology or -ism. If that's what you want to do, get yourself a blog. This wiki is a place to examine how tropes are used.
Darkmane
12:30:23 AM Aug 6th 2010
I think the "type" classification needs to go (that's what's causing all three discussions here), but other than this is pretty real and exists in RL.
BLOODPOUCH
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11:03:30 AM Jul 17th 2010
It's not a trope if it only exists in real life.
Alrune
07:40:34 AM Jul 18th 2010
Not necessarily. It is an Unfortunate Implications trope that exists in Anime and Porn under the names Generic Cuteness and Pro Porn Clones respectively.It is just the Hollywood version of said tropes.
MidasMint
02:08:21 PM Nov 18th 2010
This is not a trope.
Alrune
09:23:10 AM Aug 30th 2011
It is. It's referenced in too many pages already to cut it. We've been discussing how to make it more understandable and clear though.
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