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05:06:49 AM Apr 8th 2015
So why exactly is Shepherd's Crown taking this long to release? If Terry managed to finish writing it before his death, then surely they wouldn't wait this long to release it? And if it WASN'T finished, then isn't it going against Rhianna's "nobody writes Discworld but Terry" rule?
07:00:24 AM Apr 8th 2015
Books need to be edited after they're written, among other things.
03:34:06 PM Jan 2nd 2015
To quote from Reduced to Ratburgers: "Probably thanks to dwarf bread, which exists as a weapon first and emergency food second."

This is slightly off, as canonically, Dwarf Bread has been stated to be an emergency food somewhere down around 50th at best.


"Proper dwarf bread has to be not just baked, but forged (with gravel, of course) and dropped in rivers and dried out, and sat on and left, and looked at every day and then put away again. For preference, its use as a cat's litter box is also recommended. Dwarfs generally devour it with their eyes, because even dwarfs have trouble with devouring it any other way."
03:26:10 PM Nov 14th 2013
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Pulled Unseen Academicals from the TVM section, per the Discworld Monthly report that the Schedule Slip has finally slipped far enough that the rights have expired. Thought about adding the Wee Free Men movie, but then decided we should probably wait until there's more info. (Likewise The Watch.)
07:58:59 PM Apr 1st 2013
A request to people who've read these books: can someone update the entry for Discworld for Super Weight? It's a Just for Fun homegrown ranking at TV Tropes of measuring characters' relative power in a story, divided into nine broad categories. The entry according to the old criteria was this (and can be found on the medium subpage's discussion page):

  • Discworld
    • Type -1: Twoflower, those with the lowest social status just about anywhere
    • Type 0: Rincewind, Brutha, Colon and Nobby
    • Type 1: Sam Vimes, Captain Carrot, Cohen the Barbarian, the Librarian
    • Type 2: Most competent witches and wizards, Susan Sto Helit, elves, typical vampires, zombies, werewolves and banshees, lesser anthropomorphic personifications
    • Type 3: Esmerelda Weatherwax, and presumably Nanny Ogg (as the most powerful witch in the world), most gods, the Queen of Elves, noble dragons
    • Type 4: Death, serious gods (Fate and The Lady), Sourcerers, the Creator(s); the Auditors of Reality
    • Type 5: Azrael and the other Old High Ones
12:54:43 PM Mar 24th 2012
  • Death's normal scythe actually ISN'T that sharp. In fact, there's no indication that it's sharp at all, in the conventional sense. It just has to strike the target to work (and, being that it is so much realer than most things, that isn't difficult). The scythe that's sharp enough to cut the dialogue in the book is in Reaper Man. It's a perfectly ordinary scythe (although with a lowlands-style curved handle instead of the straight type used in the hill country where Death is in that part of the book) that's prepared very, VERY carefully, sharpened first with a stone, then with a steel, then with wool, cotton, satin, silk, and finally on DAYLIGHT. Death still fears it isn't sharp enough for his duel with the New Death. In the end, a perfectly ordinary scythe he's used all day in the fields becomes the sharpest blade in the universe because of Death's WRATH. It cuts through the blade of the New Death's thing-that-might-have-a-scythe-in-its-ancestry WITHOUT SLOWING DOWN.
    • Actually, in Mort, Death's original scythe blade is described as so thin it's transparent, and able to slice flame and chop sound. Later on it slices a flagstone in half after being accidentally dropped. I suspect all Death's efforts in Reaper Man were just an attempt to make an ordinary scythe come close to his original
07:15:12 AM Jan 17th 2012
Isn't Sacharissa's last name a Stealth Pun or Punny Name in itself? Cripslock is a take on "Caps Lock," the key on a computer or typewriter that allows a person to go all caps in their text (or as said in the Internet, "SCREAMING").
02:50:57 PM Dec 23rd 2011
Has anyone here ever read The Homeward Bounders (published 1981)? If so, has anyone else noticed how similar the Auditors of Reality are to Them? What with the triangular buildings and the groups of three. They both like to screw around with world(s), too, except that the Auditors do that 'cause they can't finish off life directly. They do that because they like gaming.
11:31:35 AM Oct 17th 2011
It occurs to me that since various books of the series are listed on this site under the Discworld namespace rather than Main, each book's subpages (Headscratchers, Heartwarming, Funny, Awesome, etc.) do not currently contain links back to the books themselves. Is there a way to set up an easy icon to link back, or should we just add links to make navigation easier?
03:01:57 PM Sep 16th 2011
"Mustrum Ridcully, Moist von Lipwig and Nanny Ogg have practically made careers of it."

This is filed under Nude Nature Dance... Does anyone know where it should go?
04:39:09 PM Sep 16th 2011
I think it should be Nice Hat. All three have had some fairly elaborate hats. It's the only trope nearabouts that it seems like they could apply.
07:20:22 AM Jul 24th 2011
On the trope of Marty Stu: The Orc from Unseen Academicals. Read the book a few times now and while I grew to almost all of the new/er characters I didn't really like the first time round, 'cept for him. He's just TOO perfect. He never really fails at anything he tries, can outwit virtually everyone etc. He's even, apparently, the sole being in the city Vetinari is unable to keep track of. I'd really like to know how and why some count him being an orc as redeeming factor. And, just saying: Some people have tried their hands at taking the infamous litmus test for him, getting a score of somewhere between 130 and 140 points...
08:35:06 AM Jul 24th 2011
edited by Hydrall
Well, I didn't really see him as a Marty Stu at all, and being an orc wouldn't seem to change that either way in my opinion. It's entirely possible he is one and is just well written enough that people don't notice- After all, you could say that several of the characters are one, for a certain value of 'sue/stu', but many people would disagree. In the end, it comes down to personal opinion and YMMV.

As for the aforementioned redeeming factor, I suspect it's because it's some kind of character flaw, in that he's basically insane and a threat. But that could also be interpreted to be a sue trait.
09:26:19 AM Jul 24th 2011
edited by LilMaibe
The point is that those little 'quirks' don't really save it, IMHO. If they are quirks at all. Don't get me wrong, I actually looked forward to reading the book, even after reading them spoilers here. And there are some excellent ideas, as expected, but at brass tacks nearly every bit of plot and sub-plot gets taken over by him at some point for actually no reason. Granted, knowing this is Discworld there IS the chance of FridgeBrilliance in that the orc is a walking source/vessel of Narrativium and that Lady Margolotta is actually up to something not good through the plot-affecting abilities that brings...

08:31:19 AM Jun 22nd 2011
Is there a reason that some of the books have individual "crowning moment" pages (funny, heartwarming, and the like) while others are in aggregate pages? It seems untidy, especially when some of the book pages have only a single entry.
08:01:29 AM Mar 9th 2011
Removing natter:

  • Uh... what exactly verse of The Hedgehog Song is "oblique"?
    • It's oblique because in the books you only ever hear the song referred to, you never see the lyrics. Those lyrics are creations of the fandom.
      • Not all of them. Some of those words ARE published in the books, in particular the refrain "The Hedgehog can never be buggered at all" but you never hear an entire intact verse, but only snatches of it overheard by another character (usually from outside and across the street, as Nanny Ogg is belting it out so loud the deaf could probably tell the lyrics by the vibrations in the soles of their feet)
      • Not sure if those actually are from the fandom itself, seeing as how we get a few lines in one of the books focusing on the Lancre Witches. I think it was Wyrd Sisters.
      • Lines from the song only appear in the books as Subverted Rhymes Every Occasion or Last Second Word Swaps, when the singer interrupts himself or the narrative simply changes focus before getting to the non-oblique part. A book will mention that there is a song with the title "The hedgehog cannot be buggered at all", and 50 pages later a drunk witch will have a snippet of dialogue like "... with a giraffe, if you stood on a stool...", and that's as close as Pratchett comes to putting the song in the book.

10:03:00 AM Feb 8th 2011
Why is Fetish Fuel/Discworld locked, anyway? Was there an Edit War about Carcer and Teatime being mentioned or something?
10:24:13 AM May 18th 2010
I was wondering: excluding the famous battle cry in Wee Free Men are there any more poems/rhymes in any of the Discworld books? Any help would be much appreciated. thx
10:50:20 AM May 18th 2010
Not really. If they're mentioned in the books, they're generally alluded to obliquely at best. Fanon has filled in some songs like the Hedgehog song, and one of the companions has the lyrics to Ankh-Morpork's anthem, but that's it for poetry. If you're looking for Tolkien-esque songs and verse, there really isn't any in the Discworld.
04:40:53 PM May 18th 2010
edited by DarkSasami
Now we sing dis stupid song!
Sing it as we run along!
Why we sing dis we don't know!
We can't make der words rhyme prop'ly!
07:57:16 AM May 19th 2010
I see... no Mr Death, I wasn't looking for Tolkien-style songs. Rather, I was interested in silly/humorously silly little poems (or wanna-be-poems) of the sort that Dark Sasami kindly provided above. In any case, thank you both. This helps.
12:18:27 PM May 19th 2010
edited by DarkSasami

I'm mean and I'm turf and I'm mean and I'm turf and I'm mean and I'm turf and I'm mean and I'm turf
And me an' my friends can walk towards you with our hats on backwards in a menacing way
01:47:01 PM Mar 21st 2010
  • Remeber that one year in Discworld is 800 days thus Windle Poons who lived to 130 Discworld years on our calender lived to be almost 300 years old.
    • Mike Rosoft: I am not removing this yet, but I believe that whenever a year is mentioned in the book, it's probably an "agricultural year" of 400 days.
11:47:16 PM May 9th 2010
Bookhobbit: Seconding. I think Word of God said so, possibly in the Companion.
10:31:25 AM Mar 19th 2010
There's a book where a rogue "Or up here?" appears in a margin, then about two pages later a character starts throwing their voice. Nice typographical pun, can't for the life of me remember which book. Any help?
04:45:47 PM Mar 21st 2010
Found it. Maskerade, p.19. Not quite how I remembered, but that's the one.
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