Creator Jules Verne Discussion

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PaulA
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12:08:14 AM Jun 21st 2016
Removed from the trope example list for being general commentary, not specific examples:

  • Black Best Friend: Typical secondary characters in novels with larger casts. While he did use some of them as Plucky Comic Relief and they often served as a Token Minority, he almost always portrayed them in a positive light and as resourceful, intelligent and equal to white characters.
  • Creator Breakdown: A mild form happened later into the Verne's life. A combination of family problemsnote , bad health, partly stemming from the very same problems, and loss of some of the closest people to him his brother Paul and his longtime friend and publisher Pierre-Jules Hetzel drove Verne to progressively darker views on the life and science, obvious in his later works.
  • Dark and Troubled Past: A lot of his characters, especially those who would've been seen as social outcasts by contemporary 19th century society. Many of them eventually get better and become The Atoner. Others, not so much...
  • Dystopia: Some of his novels feature varying examples of this. Works with dystopian overtones were more common in his later life, when Creator Breakdown and Real Life Writes the Plot started settling in.
  • Executive Meddling: As noted above, at a certain angle Hetzel could almost be counted as a Verne's co-author.
  • Glorious Mother Russia: Verne was somewhat interested in Russia — as was a significant part of the French society in XIX century — and often used it as his setting, but most of these books were largely informed by this trope: despite the interest, the mid-XIX century perception of Russia in France was largely Entertainingly Wrong. Verne himself never visited the country unlike his literary mentor Dumas-père — he planned a Black Sea tour during one of his Mediterranean cruises, but the trip in question was cut short (different sources give different reasons: from cholera outbreak in Odessa to a falling out with his wife).
  • Humans Are Bastards: Contrary to the public opinion, Verne didn't have any illusions of the human nature and wasn't that shy to show it in his works. This was greatly moderated by his close friend and publisher, Pierre-Jules Hetzel, who had much more optimistic outlook and spared no effort in reigning in his friend's misanthropy.
  • Market-Based Title: The reason why many of his novels often have three or even four different names, with one of them being preferred in the country where it's being published.
  • Phlebotinum du Jour: Much, much of Verne's work feature incredibly widespread and, for its time, almost inconceivably advanced use of electricity. In fact, some of the technologies he describes are still largely out of our reach today.
  • Science Is Bad: A definite note of this can be felt in the late novels after his Protection from Editors kicked in. On the other hand, Verne, who always did the research, was too honest with himself to fall into this trope completely. For him the science was bad only when bad people were using it.
  • Shown Their Work: His famously accurate predictions about various technological advances and social changes were the results of many, many, many hours of hard work he did in public libraries or by consulting various scientists and experts of the time. He really liked to do his research, even for things he could have easily handwaved. This general attitude and avoiding most far-fetched concepts is what gave him the credence of a hard sci-fi writer in the eyes of modern day critics.
  • Small Reference Pools: The books that have their own pages (except for Paris in the Twentieth Century) are pretty much his only works that most people know. They represent less than a fifth of his total output.
  • Unbuilt Trope/Troperrific: Since he's a one of the granddaddies of the science fiction genre, this is to be expected.

Preserved here in case anyone wants to rework them into a write-up for the Analysis page.
Arivne
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06:49:54 PM Feb 3rd 2012
edited by Arivne
Depoilered the following in the Fan Sequel example of The Sphinx of the Ice Fields.

"(e. g. the Tsalal natives seemed to have gone extinct due to a mysterious plague)"

The Sphinx of the Ice Fields came out in 1897, 115 years ago, and definitely falls under our Handling Spoilers policy's Statute of Limitations (which is 50 years).
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