Revamping the structure of the RWBY Character pages due to the Monsters and Enemies page getting too unwieldy. This has been discussed and hashed out on the RWBY Forum, please see from this post
onwards. Please note that any new tropes added to the old Character pages on the 19th October 2017 may not have been captured. Please check, and readd if I've missed it.
Summer and Raven's pages -
- Betty and Veronica: I feel like Summer and Raven fit this trope for Taiyang, although it may be a bit implicit because we haven't seen much of what actually went on in their relationships. That being said, it's been implied enough that I think we can add it, although I want to run it by the discussion page just to be sure.
The King of Vale's entry:
- Greater-Scope Paragon: At the end of the Great War, he turned down the chance to single handedly rule all of Remnant to instead build a system of world government where all four major kingdoms are united, and the establishment of Huntsmen Academies to help protect the peace which is regularly celebrated through the Vytal Festival. Eighty years later, this Alliance is still in place, and it's pricely this unity he established that Salem and her subordinates are working to destroy in the present events.
Completely understand why this was added, however, we have a few hints that he's much more involved in the plot than surface appearances suggest.
The King of Vale founded the Huntsmen Academies at the end of the Great War, ended the Vale kingship, and set up new government systems for all four kingdoms. He turned over the academies to his most trusted confidantes.
Now, Qrow says that Ozpin's predecessor (headmaster of Beacon) founded the academies.
Ozpin tells Oscar that he (Ozpin) helped build Haven Academy and the current headmaster of Haven is someone he gifted a tea set to long ago. He's been encouraging Oscar to go to Haven to meet the headmaster. Qrow, meanwhile, has told the protagonists that he doesn't know what to do next without Ozpin, so they need to go and ask the Haven headmaster for help.
It's not confirmed, but it's strongly implied that Ozpin's predecessor was the King of Vale himself and that the Haven headmaster may have been one of the king's trusted confidantes. It's also implied that the King of Vale merged with Ozpin and now with Oscar (which is why people are thinking the King's royal sceptre is Ozpin's cane).
If this isn't the case, I agree that he'd be a Greater-Scope Paragon, but there are enough hints for us to speculate that there's a real chance that he's deeply involved in the plotline. I think we need to hold off on this trope for a while until we know what the truth is about Ozpin and Oscar.
Edited by Wyldchyld If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
- Red and Black and Evil All Over: Red eyes, black hair, red sword, black skirt, red and black armor. She's also a bandit leader responsible for massacre of at least one village.
Reason for delete was: "We don't know if the trope applies. The creators have indicated there's something different going on with her and, in story, the implications are that she might have a Blue-and-Orange Morality issue going on. Claiming she's evil is therefore suspect."
Excuse me, what? She massacred a village full of innocent people! Last time i checked it earned Cinder Complete Monster entry, and back then Vale survived relatively intact, while Xione lies in ruins. How exacly is that NOT supposed to be evil? So far she's shown to be Bandit leader and Social Darwinist, even if she at some point help the good guys (assuming Ozpin's conspiracy are the good guys in the first place) the best she can hope for is Token Evil Teammate Anti-Hero. Which still gets to fall under this trope.
Putting this here so that folks discuss instead of edit warring:
- Kick the Dog: She tells Qrow to tell Yang—her daughter, notably, and rather than telling her herself—that she should not expect the "kindness" of having her life saved a second time.
That doesn't sound like Kick the Dog. More like saving the dog and then leaving a note saying that it's not going to happen next time. Like Sink or Swim Mentor helping the student one time.
Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Agreed.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
The character's entire back history and motives are a complete mystery as well. It's hard to trope her at all where motive and intent is concerned.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Really Wish There Was Someone To Vent To Now.
Why were the following commented out?
- The Leader: By Word of God, she's this to Team NDGO.
- Idiot Hair: Has the same ahoge that Yang has.
- Good Parents: So much so that the entire family was devastated when she didn't return from the mission she was on. Yang had no idea Summer wasn't her biological mother until after she disappeared.
Nope. The Leader needs to explain why it applies. Idiot Hair needs to describe the "idiot". Good Parents needs to explain how it applies, again.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Weiss's older sister.
Associated Tropes
- Badass Longcoat
- Icy Blue Eyes: Like her sister.
- Impossible Hourglass Figure
- Peek A Bangs
I've moved this to here because the entire folder is full of zero context examples and trope misuse. But it's being readded without edit reason and without addressing either of those issues. To avoid an edit war, I've brought it here to clarify the issue:
Winter has been introduced at the RTX. She has not been seen in the show, so we don't know anything about her aside from the fact she's Weiss's older sister and what she looks like.
- Badass Longcoat is not an appearance trope. An example needs to show how a character is demonstrably badass and how the longcoat enhances that badass. A character wearing a longcoat is not automatically this trope.
- Icy Blue Eyes is not a trope for anyone who happens to have pale, blue eyes. Icy Blue Eyes is a personality trope. The eyes inform and enhance the character's personality. If the character has the correct personality for the trope, the trope will be relevant.
- Impossible Hourglass Figure can be troped from her appearance alone, but it's currently a Zero Context Example.
- Peek A Bangs is not an appearance trope. It's where the peek-a-bang look is used to convey something about the character's personality. The character will either be sultry and sexy, shy and demure or deceptive and secretive. The bangs will enhance that nature.
At the moment, only one of those four tropes can be troped based solely on a picture of her. The rest need her to be active in the show long enough for us to see what her personality is and how badass she is.
Edited by Wyldchyld If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Why doesn't Raven Branwen have any spoiler-markings on her tropes? Volume 3 will likely build upon her character and give her a role in the greater scheme of things; but until then her entire existence remains a major spoiler for the final episodes of Volume 2.
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Because most of them are based around her masked appearance, which isn't really spoilery. Her personality and back-story, which would be spoilery aren't known yet
Well, she takes off the mask and reveals her face in post-credits stinger, but I don't see any spoilers on that aside from just hiding the image. Not to mention her spoken dialogue from the same scene.
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I went ahead and spoilered everything to do with her unmasking and Yang. Except the quote, which can't be spoilered.
Well, as a final nitpick, what about her name? It's only given in the credits reel of the last episode, and it blatantly reveals that she's related to Qrow Branwen.
First off, you tropers don't get to nitpick on spoiler rules. That is final.
"They played us like a DAMN FIDDLE!" — Kazuhira Miller, Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
Any bets on Raven's relation to Yang and Ruby? Most opinions seem to be: Qrow's daughter, and therefore their cousin; Yang's mother; Qrow's sister; Qrow's daughter or sister and Yang's mother
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I personally agree that she's just Yang and Ruby's cousin or other relative by Qrow, since it's much more believable than the majority of fan-theories, which seem to be taken straight from cliche OC fanfiction (Popular ones that came immediately from her debut were that she was Blake and Adam's daughter from the future, or some sort of All Your Powers Combined clone of Team RWBY).
At any rate, you probably should take this sort of speculation to the Wild Mass Guessing panel, for better or worse.
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Why shouldn't we have a spoilered picture of Raven unmasked? Seems kinda dumb to leave out her real face.
Are we treating White Cloak and Summer Rose as separate characters, because in light of the recent episode we may want to combine them.
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While they probably are the same person, we don't have confirmation that they are the same person. I think we have to leave them separate. Though we should note that they are probably the same people.
So we'll hold off until solid evidence is presented? I can agree to that.
In this case, yeah, holding pattern.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Summer Rose's character sheet keeps saying she died. It's not canon that she's dead as of right now, only that she went missing. So while it's altogether likely Summer is dead, let's not jump to any conclusions just yet, given that Monty Oum may reveal a significance behind not specifying death.
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I agree this is not a series that uses Never Say "Die", so Yang saying she "Never came back" is probably important.
So I had added a new character tab for Mike and Marty, the Beowolves from RWBY Chibi, but then someone deleted the entry because Chibi had its own Tropes page. I feel like a character page for only a pair of characters would be excessive. Plus Dr. Merlot is on this page even though RWBY: Grimm Eclipse has its own page. I just wanted to make my case to include Mike and Marty here.