Rename: Biggus Dickus

Something besides Gag Penis?

Since the main argument here seems to be a non-indicative name...let's talk misuse first, alternate names later.

It's brought in 1253 inbounds, which is decent, and found in 401 articles. When I get some more time later, I'll begin going through the list of those and checking. (If someone else wants to do it first, fine by me.)

edited 1st Oct '10 11:29:37 AM by TotemicHero

The Trope Name could be a tiny bit less vulgar.

Bigger Is Better in Bed goes alot in that direction.

^ Vulgarity is not a big problem here.

Well, since I was lazy, I only went through the punctuated links. So, going by the whole "bigger penis leads to better sex" definition, here are my results (with three I had problems where I couldn't find the example):

• (500) Days of Summer: Possibly correct, haven't seen the film to confirm.
• Eight Bit Theater (too lazy to find the ptitle): Incorrect. No sex, just a giant penis.
• Awesome McCoolname: Potholed to someone's name. Incorrect.
• Baldur's Gate: Incorrect, giant penis only.
• Bastard!!: Incorrect, giant penis only.
• Brutal Legend: Incorrect, giant penis only.
• But You Screw One Goat: Incorrect, giant penis only.
• Can't Get Away with Nuthin': Correct.
• Can't Have Sex, Ever: Incorrect, giant penis only.
• Dantes Inferno: Incorrect, giant penis only.
• Degrassi The Next Generation: Fine-tooth combed this page several times, couldn't find it (I used a word processor to search it Wiki Word by Wiki Word). Sue me.
• Did I Just Say That Out Loud?: Incorrect, giant penis only.
• Does This Remind You of Anything?: Same deal as the Degrassi page.
• It's Short, So It Sucks!: Correct, sort of. (Comparison of tropes.)
• Monicas Gang: Incorrect, giant penis only.
• Monster Cocks!: Incorrect, giant penis only. (Someone index this page.)
• Monty Pythons Life Of Brian: Trope Namer, but not really correct, as mentioned before.
• Oh, Mr. Grant!: Correct.
• Spartacus Blood And Sand: Not sure, but seems to be incorrect and giant penis only.
• The Idol Master: Same deal as the Degrassi page.
• The Man They Couldn't Hang: Incorrect, giant penis only.
• What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids?: Incorrect, should be Gag Penis. (I corrected this one.)

So out of 21 I got to look at, 3 were correct, 2 I wasn't sure on, and 16 incorrect. I know the sample is small, but if that's representative a rename is very much in order.

As for the non-punctuated titles, I'll look at them later (except for one page, which I added myself and know is correct).

edited 2nd Oct '10 9:31:42 PM by TotemicHero

@Raso - We frown on bowlderizing.

Size Does Matter seems to be the actual term for this.

Dude. Totemic Hero is my new hero. Looking at the facts, doing the research, thinking the thinking.

edited 3rd Oct '10 8:28:53 PM by FastEddie

I'd probably feel more appreciative of the praise if it weren't based on me searching for examples of giant penises.

If people want more evidence, feel free to say so and I'll try to find some time in the next few days to dig up some. If you think we're good, we can start an alt names crowner.

Edit: Evading Grammar Nazi attacks!

edited 3rd Oct '10 9:34:27 PM by TotemicHero

Can we get a crowner for this? I think it's clear that the name is being misused. I personally haven't had a problem with it, but Totemic Hero's research is clear. My vote goes to Size Does Matter.

^ Except for that name doesn't fix the problem vs Gag Penis but I guess a crowner is needed I vote for Bigger Is Better in Bed.

edited 3rd Oct '10 11:29:02 PM by Raso

Or a combination thereof: Size Does Matter In Bed?

(And Totemic Hero's avatar is even vaguely phallic! :D)

By the way, I'd heard of the phrase Size Does Matter before, but before I read this thread I never realized what it was originally referring to.

The phrase has been used in a number of advertising campaigns, which is what I associated it with, having never heard the original reference.

It's not just Godzilla.

• http://www.hamburgers.ph/baconator/index.html
• http://sizedoesntmatter.ca/home/
• http://ezinearticles.com/?In-Outdoor-Aluminum-Signs,-Size-Does-Matter&id=3764689

edited 4th Oct '10 6:48:10 AM by storyyeller

Yeah, Size Does Matter is a stock phrase associated with this, but it's also associated with just about everything else too. It's so over used that it doesn't have a real meaning.

Alt. names crowner, ready and waiting to be hooked.

I was under the impression that ads using the phrase Size Does Matter were Getting Crap Past the Radar in a sense, using a phrase normally associated with sex to get the viewers attention while they can tell the censors "eh? what? sex? I'm talking about a bigger burger here, yea."

Except it's just as often played straight with things like guns, cars, boats. It's not about sex. It's about showing off and having more.

Size does matter will just confuse it with Bigger Is Better. I don't see any problem with the current name aside from that the trope namer didn't use it the same way we do, and we're not actually obliged to do that.

I wish I could argue for keeping the name, but it just implies 'big dick' and has clearly been shown to be confused for that. It's supposed to be about how it's better.

Also, I don't like 'size does matter' but it does imply that more than mere size is required. Whether it does so strongly enough is debatable.

edited 4th Oct '10 9:43:37 PM by Arha

Wouldn't that be more of an issue for a rewrite, though? Even in cases where a character just has a big dick, the implication is usually that it's a good thing for him to have even if it isn't explicitly said that it makes him better at sex. It's more a case of people interpreting the description in a way that's overly narrow; from the description, it's not "a big dick is good for sex" it's "a big dick is a good thing, a small dick is a bad thing." The only non-examples would be where the big dick is a bad thing.

Cleaning up the description (it's a mess) saves a rename and saves a lot of example-trimming. Win-win.

edited 4th Oct '10 9:53:47 PM by Evilest_Tim

"guns, cars, boats"

So, things men are said to get to compensate for penis size? ;P

"Size Matters" is almost always meant to invoke penises, and the saying originally means that it's better in bed to have a big dick. However, how it's used commonly, that association slips to the wayside for the purpose of making a dick joke, so to speak; nobody's saying a big boat makes you better in bed unless they're talking metaphorically. It's possibly not ideal.

also you got a stupid commercial stuck in my head.

Well, I think I found part of our problem: the description of Gag Penis. Should I go ahead and edit that part to match the actual definition, or wait till the rename?

That trope isn't dependent on this trope, so do it now.

Also, it seems we have enough penis tropes for an index, since we already have Keep Abreast Of This Index and Nothing Butt An Index.

Indicks?

1. That's trying too hard to be clever.

2. Could be confused for tropes about Jerkasses.

Took care of Gag Penis.