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Remember, folks: No drama importation.

^ Will keep that to heart.

Tumblr? Well, I only use that site to look at pictures that cannot be found on Deviant Art or anywhere else. However the "social justice" crowd really give it a bad reputation. I'm refering to the elitists of course.

Speaking of which whenever I look up a certain trope, there's an Anti-TV Tropes Tumblr that pops up on Google. I only saw it as one of those "Social Justice" sites. I'm wondering if that was true or not. I won't link it, but I just want to know if it's run by one of the extremists or not.

We actually have a page for it

I see. I wonder what his reaction was... Though it didn't answer my question.

It's standard anti-TV Tropes sentiment without the bullshit trollishness of the Goons who hate us.

....I have one. AND I NEED FOLLOWS.

The anti-T Vtropes blog is a mess of legitimate complaints and petty bitching mashed together into tangles crap-pile that's hard to find the legitimate criticism buried in.

Exciting news!

http://www.clickhole.com/article/anthropologists-are-verge-figuring-out-how-youre-s-1299

I actually never had that much trouble reading posts, but maybe it's just me.

edited 8th Nov '14 12:46:09 PM by shoboni

Like the gifs, but the site itself seems like it's mostly made for people who love to critique and unecessarily look for deeper meanings in entertainment. Reminds me of Buzzfeed for some reason.

edited 8th Nov '14 1:20:22 PM by teddy

That's not actually possible.

I'm a bit disturbed to hear it as a sentiment expressed on a site supposedly devoted to analyzing fiction.

edited 8th Nov '14 3:14:31 PM by unnoun

>unecessarily look for deeper meanings in entertainment

>said on TV Tropes

Exactly.

There's analyzing using common sense and logic and then there's "what the hell were smoking when you wrote that?" that Tumblr can reach into, it's the same reason there was a rule put in place Unfortunate Implications needs a citation to show someone besides the troper in question saw it that way.

I mean. Not everyone has had the same experiences. Not everyone perceives things the same exact way entirely.

I mean, language and art and stories are things we construct socially. There's no inherent reason that air moving past vocal cords in certain patterns has to mean the things it does. Communication only works because of shared understanding of its component parts. And not everyone has that shared understanding. Or they have different shared understandings.

In sociology, one of the basic aspects of feminist theory is that the voices of the oppressed matter. Because those are the voices that are least well represented.

I'm not sure we're the best place to be discussing common sense or logic.

I feel this site has many virtues, and what flaws it has are not insurmountable, but. I would not number common sense or logic among our virtues.

To the extent that common sense or logic are virtues. I feel it's certainly possible to go overboard with them.

Logic, my dears, merely enables one to be proven wrong with authority.

edited 8th Nov '14 3:50:31 PM by unnoun

Yeah, just like on TVTro-AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA sorry I couldn't even finish that sentence with a straight face.

But yeah, what , and said.

edited 8th Nov '14 3:52:09 PM by Pachylad

Our pages for that are marked "just for fun" and we know it's absurd fanwanking we do for fun, some of those people are completely serious.

I'm not getting into the "what you think doesn't trump the creator's intent" argument again. I'm tired of this whole "I found it offensive because implications and what the creator actually intended doesn't matter" rhetoric.

Lack of logic can result in poor writing and unfollowable plots grounded in Insane Troll Logic. It's also very important(and so is common sense) when dealing with analyzing because we don't want to put "how it should work" over how it actually works in the real world. See Alan Wake because he discusses how there needs to be some sort of rules, reason, and natural progression quite a bit in the games narration.

edited 8th Nov '14 5:27:42 PM by shoboni

Death of the Author is a thing in literary criticism.

"Intent isn't magic" is a thing in feminism.

Lots of tumblr users are students.

Except both "common sense" and "logic" are both more "how it should work" than "how it actually works". The way to determine "how it actually works" is the scientific method. By doing tests, and observations, and experiments. And repeating them.

Logic is all about "a=a" and "b=b" or "a=c and b=c therefore a=b".

edited 8th Nov '14 5:31:07 PM by unnoun

A very controversial thing from what I've seen(and many of these people are doing when the author is still alive) and I just consider that a cheap cop-out to strip someone of they agency and deem them guilty just because you want to. It's like a logical version of a fixed trail because it allows you to wrongly disarm any way the accused has to defend themselves.

We can give our interpretations all we want but Word of God(if God is still alive or made a recorded statement on it) still trumps it if we're going to be serious and not running of Just for Fun

Logic is(I was wrong there), but common sense can be the capacity to see when it's not working like logic says it should.

edited 8th Nov '14 5:33:27 PM by shoboni

Eh. Only in some of the more fanwanky cases. a writer is completely capable of writing something bigoted without saying they did

I'm not sure how much you've seen. I regularly talk with professors that take it as read.

Not necessarily.

What one intends to communicate and what is actually communicated isn't always the same thing.

Like, that's the premise of a lot of Poor Communication Kills stuff. And a lot of comedy. And storytelling is nothing if not a form of communication.

in extreme cases, I've seen many cases of Unfortante Implications being picked like a scab and perfectly reasonable counter-arguments getting thrown out in favor of "I'm offended so I'm right"

There's calling out blackface then there's the person that claimed the villian in Farcry 4 for was an example of Depraved Homosexual just because he wore purple and purple is a "gay" color(and no, it wasn't a troll blog)

Then I'm happy for you, you don't know my pain.

Again, we've steered into the territory of stripping the creator of their artistic integrity so someone can claim whatever the hell they want and no be challenged. You can use poor writing in that regard as a criticism but you can't disregard their intent altogether and crucify them for something they didn't do. It's reason like that I both love and hate over-analyzing things, people taking their interpretation way to seriously and considering it the absolute when it's just one way of looking at it.

I can criticize the fact The Nostalgia Critic's speech about Japan's age of consent laws came off xenophobic(and have), but I also acknowledge that was probably not his intent and his heart was in the right place.

edited 8th Nov '14 5:43:47 PM by shoboni