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to Ernie Bishop.

Okay here is my rewrite of Victor Krane, I cut him down and took out the unnecessary potholes, it might still be to long, but how does it look?

Victor Krane was the Lab Rats worst opponent. A ruthless power-hungry billionaire, Krane used Douglas Davenports’ technology to grant himself bionic powers. Brainwashing Adam, Bree and Chase; when Chase resisted Krane immediately ordered his siblings to kill him. Refusing to accept rivals, Krane became consumed with murdering the Lab Rats. For one attempt he imprisoned Leo and Tasha in an oven, to force Donald to give him his children. Secretly building himself a bionic army, he grew a hundred kids – including a few preteens – in his lab, brainwashing and depriving them of any individuality, and experimenting on them to give them bionic abilities. Leaving some traumatised after they were liberated. Convinced his powers made him superior, Krane attempted brainwash all humanity to conquer the earth. Refusing to allow his soldiers any life that didn’t benefit him, he installed a virus so if he died so would they. Surviving, Krane partnered with Dr. Gao; infiltrating Donald’s space colony, they kidnapped the colonists, along with Donald and Tasha, to turn them into his new army of mindless bionic solders. Krane then launched a missile that would wipe out all life on earth, planning to rebuild everything in his own image. Thwarted, Krane attacked the Lab rats and colonists’ ship declaring “if I can’t have my bionic army then I’m taking you out with them.”

Could we go with a different potholeto his name than The Sociopath as 43110 said, I'm order to be a CM you already need to qualify for that. Maybe grow with Knight of Cerebus instead.

Yeah, go with Knight of Cerebus, and please add to the Drafts.

Yes to Bishop.

Oh right this got forgotten.

As i mentioned previously is the Comic version of Unicron listed because I don't think we could have him as the page image of he's not on the page in Transformers

Ah, right. I remember someone saying they were gonna look at the comics.

Anyone got a good placeholder image for the meantime?

EDIT: Nevermind. Wrong incarnation.

Lucifer, Paul and Bishop.

edited 18th Jun '18 3:21:13 PM by Clown-Face

Maybe if there's a way to remove the dialogue.

Arachnid ?

Or lockdown

https://www.google.co.za/search?q=transformers+animated+lockdown&client=ms-android-samsung&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjp2uicoN7bAhUFeMAKHXflD48Q_AUICCgB&biw=320&bih=452#imgrc=BZGOLw_n9ldzDM%3A

edited 18th Jun '18 3:24:26 PM by miraculous

to Watts and Bishop.

I would go with Arachnid.

Paul and Bishop. I'm finally making Hellraiser proposals, one of my favorite franchises. The focus of the E Ps will be on two characters coming from the comics universe.

Who is The Stalker? This nameless, red-headed psychopath simply called "The Stalker", from "Later", is a human Serial Killer fascinated by the Cenobites, desperately wanting to be recruited by their leader, the Leviathan. His initial MO consisted of riding the subway at night and look for women with clear anxiety issues; when alone with his victim, Stalker would savagely beat her and give a moment for her to plead, and when they "expected the worst", the Stalker would search their purses for their identification and abruptly stop the attack, promising that he would return, and walk away singing and gleefully stating that it is a "small world". For years The Stalker repeated this process with several different women, stalking them to "never let them forget, never let the terror subside". Literally consuming their negative emotions, The Stalker confessed that his actions made him happy because he could play women "like violins".

Years and years of abuse left Stalker's victims "broken", the already-anxious women now lived a life of paranoia, and most of them commited suicide, not wanting to suffer anymore. The Stalker, proud of his work, filled his room with pictures of his victims, his "collection" had 29 women in total, and it's suggested that the number could be much, much more higher. His reasons were a combination of For the Evulz and because he was "providing a multitude of fodder souls" for the Leviathan to torture in Hell. Finally finding the Lament Configuration, The Stalker solved the puzzle and was judged in Hell by a group of Cenobites; though it was concluded that the Stalker had potential to become one of them, all agreed that he did not understand their Blue-and-Orange Morality at all, and was just a deporable Card-Carrying Villain. Self-absorbed enough to believe that the Cenobites would approve the actions and mindset of a maniac like him, The Stalker was left to be tortured in Hell, suffering a Fate Worse than Death for having tortured women for who knows how many years and condemning them to Hell.

Now, the other candidate.

Who is Halo? This sadistic, malicious Cenobite known as Halo, from "Closets", is a Token Evil Teammate for Hell's Army itself. Unlike other Cenobites, Halo does not follow the traditions and rules of the Leviathan, and is more interested in causing mayhem in the human world. When Ellen, a mother with a past of sexual abuse at the hands of her father, locks her son, Josh, in a closet to pray, the little boy finds the Lament Configuration and solves the puzzle, Halo was the only Cenobite to arrive, taking him to Hell, but rather than judging him, Halo tortured the boy for a long time, leaving his body with bruises and sealing his mouth with stitches.

Ellen, regretting her actions, solves the puzzle herself and finds Josh in Hell; Halo, mocking Ellen for the pain she caused to her son, agrees to return her favorite doll only if she promises to play "daddy's special game", smiling and laughing at her suffering. With hooks, Halo drags Ellen to a chamber to be turned into a Cenobite, just so he could prolong her suffering even more and make her share the pain with other people, which is made clear by his monologue: "You will cause such terrible pain and in turn you will be tortured by the pain you cause". Disrespecting the laws of Hell, Halo releases Josh, framing Ellen in the process; Halo did this not to spare the boy from the terrors of Hell, but to make him spread his own kind of terror in the human world. The last page shows Josh, now wearing a mask because of his mutilated face, torturing a little girl in the hospital he's staying at.

Freudian Excuses? Zero for both.

Heinous? Stalker stands out for being a mere human, and because his methods focus on the damage that can be done to the human mind, which by itself is arguably even worse than the Body Horror inflicted by the Cenobites. Halo, on the other hand, is the rare kind of Cenobite that refuses to be neutral like the Leviathan, going as far as to torture a child, his mother, and other humans by proxy, simply because he can. Halo is also the only Cenobite in the comics universe that is involved with Would Hurt a Child, and that's because he likes it.

Conclusion? Worthy of being accepted in the Hell that is TV Tropes or not, i'll leaving them for you guys to judge.

edited 18th Jun '18 4:10:38 PM by TheMadCr0w

Stalker and Halo

Stalker and Halo

to Watts, Bishop, Stalker and Halo

Stalker.

... Halo. His actions seems small compared to The Stalker and given that is a Cenobite, I'm sure that he could do a lot more damage than what he did. Sorry

Going to agree with Kaz here. The former is an easy yeah, the latter a nasty piece of shit but the ending is too ambiguous to assume he causes as much damage as he can given he's a Cenobite.

Wait, from that effortpost, it seemed like the women were driven to suicide, rather than the Stalker killing them himself. Either way, as a killer he's bad enough; even not as a killer that's Cruel Mercy. Yes to him.

Also, Even Cenobites Have Standards? Huh.

Btw just a note: Nobody counts on Shaq Fu The Legend Reborn. The big bad is nasty due to her plan decimating the entire city and trying to drown a baby... But the former comes across as a generic villainy due to the fact that we dont see a dead bodies despite there are some burning town imagery. And then there's the fact that Shaq Fu doesnt try to take itself a bit seriously...Sure there are some qualifiers from a silly and over the top works such as Kill La Kill but overall...I'm still holding my opinion as for now: The big bad is nasty but nearly misses the mark.

Yeah the comic ones believe in keeping order from what I can remember.

edited 18th Jun '18 4:45:26 PM by Kjhorns

Not much standards as Blue-and-Orange Morality (they believe that pain is good, right?) so when they see a actual Sadist, their reaction is "what a jackass"

Also. The EP itself said that while The Staker is not a killer, the psychological torture that he causes is roughly at the same level as the Body Horror of the Cenobites (gonna disagree there, but resources factor applies so the Staker meets the Heinous Standard)

Burning cities still qualify as On Screen villainy IMO

Also. I'm gonna try to re-write the Entry of Isla Yura from PandoraHearts. The guy qualifies (imagine Kefka without magical powers but with political conections with the people that do) but his entry is...awkward.

edited 18th Jun '18 4:53:27 PM by KazuyaProta

Good to see that another troper knows Hellraiser lore

Also, about the psychological torture inflicted by The Stalker, can you imagine the situation of a person with an anxiety problem being endlessly stalked by a maniac that had attacked them once? It is implied that those women had nightmares about him every night, and this was his intention. Sure, the Body Horror is bad, but this is just terrible. It got to the point that their only escape was to kill themselves. The worst kind of terror is anticipation.

True.

edited 18th Jun '18 5:02:23 PM by TheMadCr0w

& Fellas, I gotta say this psychological vs. Body Horror torment is apples and oranges. Both are bad and everyone's going to have an opinion on which plays a worse case but it's delving into subjective territory to the point I don't think there's going to be a conclusive debate.

Edit: To add on to Elfen's point as I watched the video with the village burning myself, I'll say there are no bodies and Never Say "Die" is in full effect. At best there's an Inferred Holocaust but the game does not play it as people being killed by the destruction, it's basically just a lot of property damage.

edited 18th Jun '18 5:19:43 PM by 43110

to Watts, Bishop, Stalker, Halo, and Lucifer

While I hold my personal opinions in this context, the Staker is still a .

Also. This was the previous entry of the character. I wanted change it because it was awkwardly worded (if I am saying that, it means a lot):

• PandoraHearts: Isla Yura manipulated dozens of politically powerful people into believing that the Abyss was a paradise, even though he knew the Abyss that it was in fact a chaotic and very literal hell that imprisons and warps anything that ends up there. Using one of these connections, he was able to gain control of an orphanage full of children who were abyss-sensitive, and he tricked them into contracting with a chain (abyssal creature), a contract that would eventually kill them. He then used these contracted children as brainwashed child soldiers to slaughter dozens, maybe even hundreds of people as preparation for plunging the world into the Abyss. He did all this because his greatest wish was to die laughing in the face of the unknown, and the Abyss was the greatest unknown. The only way he knew how to go to the Abyss was by trying to annihilate a country, so that's what he did, and he didn’t regret a thing.

This is mine. I will add some Pot Holes, but please. Fix my grammar.

• PandoraHearts: Isla Yura is a man from a foreign country that manipulated members of the nobility into believing that the Abyss was a paradise. Using his connections, Yura was able to get control of an orphanage full of children sensitives to the power of the Abyss, children that were manipulated into doing a contract with an abyssal creature know as a Chain, a contract that would eventually kill them. Using those children as his soldiers, Yura sends them to slaughter dozens of persons in a party that he himself organized as a trap to get the necessary victims to recreate the ritual of the infamous Tragedy of Sablier and swallow the entire world into the Abyss. A cheerful psychopath, Yura confesses knowing the actual twisted nature of the Abyss, saying that his wish always was “to die laughing with the greatest unknown before my eyes”

Only Three potholes. Put in the phrases that could need some clarification to people that havent read the manga.

Oh Yura. You were a good Disc-One Final Boss

edited 18th Jun '18 6:12:24 PM by KazuyaProta

Alright, since the whole bit with the Thinker didn't pan out? I'm going to finally try to give Martin Proctor a writeup, and submit a few other rewrites in the process later tonight.

God Almighty, I legitimately don't understand why such a simplistic and one dimensional villain has been a total nightmare to write up.