Looking more closely at the description for Scenery Porn, I think the actual problem with it is Trope Decay. The description says it's about "emphasis on detailed backgrounds", yet pretty much every example I have ever seen is just gushing about how freaking awesome the visuals are.
I agree with that. The trope should be about when more effort than necessary is spent on backgrounds, or when they're significant in their own right. Not just above the bare minimum, or just pretty backgrounds.
Post 1244: "I propose we add the banner to Do Not Do This Cool Thing since "cool" is subjective."
Post 1245: "...While that's a strange way to put it, I can support that. A description that's written largely in second-person is not the sign of an objective trope."
Post 1246: "I awould rather worry about that first folder first. What is up with it?"
Post 1247: "Well, including Do Not Do This Cool Thing in the crowner."
Does Age-Inappropriate Dress have an objective standard?
It talks about the "cultural norm", but fails to specify if it is the cultural norm of the viewer, the creator, or the in-universe culture.
Also, even within a given culture, such as "Western culture", "American culture" etc, there is a lot of diverse opinion as to what constitutes appropriate dress for various groups of people. One person's idea of normal teenage fashion might have their neighbors going "I can't believe they let their kids dress like that!"
True. I see what I said is what the trope should be.
I believe Age-Inappropriate Dress is a case for a Trope Repair Shop then. I don't think it should get YMMV status, as this means revoking its trope status. A viewer making a subjective observation in a show is not a trope.
edited 12th Nov '13 1:50:05 PM by LordGro
It's perfectly possible to admire building a cannon to destroy the moon, whilst lamenting the act of destruction.
I don't think it actually is; I think it's just not necessarily written in the best way. A Gambit Roulette is a series of gambits, each of which relies on the previous ones coming off exactly as expected, even though the factors which affect success depend on chance (i.e. are unpredictable). As noted in the description, this long string of events coming off perfectly can strain suspension of disbelief, which is why one way of identifying a gambit roulette would be to pay attention to when you go "that couldn't have worked that perfectly!". But that's not the only or the most reliable way; the improbability of things working exactly as planned can be judged objectively.
Sturgeons Tropes: The reasoning to the inclusion of most of the tropes is based in the reaction of the audience- including objective tropes(as Status Quo Is God and Flat Character). Beyond this, if a specific use of a trope was good or bad is subjective.