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Kyon: Big Damn Hero:

 1 Marq FJA, Tue, 14th Sep '10 1:00:39 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
TV Tropes' page on the fanfic in question.

Spoiler statute * by wanderlustwarrior in the One Piece thread:

  • Whenever there's a new chapter on Durandall's own site, first poster who knows of it posts it immediately.
  • NEVER post statements about the chapter in the post that you link to it in.
  • Spoiler tag for the first five posts after the link to the chapter (so that we don't see the spoilers before seeing the link itself). If the page rolls over into a new one before the five-post limit is exceeded, reset the count.
  • No need to spoiler tag after 5 posts.

Currently at 31 chapters.

And with all that out of the way...

  1. What is your favourite moment(s) so far? Please categorize (Awesome, Funny, Heartwarming, Fetish Fuel, etc.) for convenience's sake. (I'll give mine later. Need some shut-eye first! XD )
  2. Who else caught Haruhi's No Sell in Chapter 31?
  3. I think we need take the natter out of the WMG page. From now on, actual discussion of WMG theories should done here.

EDIT: Updating to account for URL changes and Durandall's indefinite hiatus from FanFiction.net.

EDIT the 2nd: Updating to account for Durandall's site URL change.

edited 18th May '12 7:55:37 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Eheheh...
I agree on removing the natter, though extricating it from the discussion on who wrote what might be beyond any of us...

My favourite moments?

Awesome - Dynamic Entry #2. Falling through glass suspended in the air wearing a Badass Longcoat and with a hostage? Brilliant.

Heartwarming - The boardgames.

Funny - Haruhi's first declaration she wanted to take Kanae home with her.

Fetish Fuel? How's that a moment? Eh, I haven't been paying attention to any of that... but the ability to squeeze an entire YEAR into a few seconds could have some... interesting effects. Yuki seems to have worked that out.

Out of curiosity, can anyone think of a better way to describe this? We're still using my original description and that's... bad. Especially with all the things added on.

edited 14th Sep '10 8:21:23 AM by RainyDaze

Now collecting White-Haired Pretty Girls.
 3 Marq FJA, Tue, 14th Sep '10 9:15:46 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
I agree on removing the natter, though extricating it from the discussion on who wrote what might be beyond any of us...
Actually, it's fairly easy, since the history log isn't that big; just 44 edits have been done since the page's creation.

Fetish Fuel? How's that a moment?
Eh, I was trying cover all the bases; Maybe I should've also included Fanservice, too. Besides, the only reason we don't have a "Crowning Moment Of Fetish Fuel" or "Crowning Moment Of Fanservice" is that the other "Crowning X of X" tropes have already undergone Trope Decay that took the "Crowning" element out of them.

Out of curiosity, can anyone think of a better way to describe this? We're still using my original description and that's... bad. Especially with all the things added on.
"This" being what, exactly?

edited 14th Sep '10 9:19:18 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Eheheh...
Quotes. Haven't seen quote boxes like that for ages. Not on this forum, this is the first time I've come on here...

But I got sidetracked.

Anyway...

What I meant is that extricating the natter from the guess on who wrote which of the quotes at the beginning of each chapter would be confusing. I'm not good at clarity.

'This' being Kyon: Big Damn Hero. I don't feel that the description does something of this magnitude justice. I was half-expecting the page to be ignored and certainly expecting the description to be changed... but it's still in use, with several additions.
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 5 Marq FJA, Tue, 14th Sep '10 9:48:42 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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(Look up the "Show Markup Help" at the top left. Everything should be there, and most if not all of it works in the rest of the wiki, too.)

Well, I admit that the article description could use some expansion, but there's nothing actually wrong with it for now beyond being a relative understatement.

edited 14th Sep '10 9:50:24 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Eheheh...
Oh, I didn't want to use one. I just haven't seen any for ages. Concentration isn't my best ability.

Understatement may be better, but calling that an understatement is an understatement in itself. And now I'm overusing the word understatement.
Now collecting White-Haired Pretty Girls.
 7 I Yellalot, Tue, 14th Sep '10 3:55:24 PM from The Flower Kingdom
READY!
Hmmm... I've wondered how Kyon would react if Haruhi were to learn about her powers after seeing the series. Would I be correct to assume that he's The Kid with the Leash in this particular fan series?
Discover the rest as the game progresses.
 8 Marq FJA, Tue, 14th Sep '10 8:02:11 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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^ This isn't the Haruhi Suzumiya thread. This is a thread for a Haruhi Suzumiya Fan Fic, by the name of Kyon: Big Damn Hero (link at the top). Pay attention to the OP; it has the word fanfic in the very first line.

edited 14th Sep '10 8:02:43 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
At the beginning maybe but Character Development and plot make that less of a case a few chapters in. It's actually handled quite well and very Genre Savvy.
Unclouded TJ: Taking Bunny-Ears Lawyer too literally.
 10 Mapi, Tue, 14th Sep '10 8:08:36 PM from Sakurakou Keionbu
"keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?"
I LOVE THIS.
 11 Mapi, Tue, 14th Sep '10 8:08:39 PM from Sakurakou Keionbu
"keionbu ni yokusou, nyan?"
I LOVE IT SO MUCH I DOUBLEPOSTED.

edited 14th Sep '10 8:09:15 PM by Mapi

 12 Filraen, Wed, 15th Sep '10 7:33:44 AM from Monstro Town
Meh, and me not in range of a good internet connection this week. *makes a Kyon-facepalm*

Who else caught Haruhi's No Sell in Chapter 31?

Not me at least. *reads the No Sell part on the K:BDH main page* *HSQ skyrockets*

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edited 1st May '14 3:28:58 AM by Filraen

 13 I Yellalot, Wed, 15th Sep '10 8:23:11 AM from The Flower Kingdom
READY!
This isn't the Haruhi Suzumiya thread. This is a thread for a Haruhi Suzumiya Fan Fic, by the name of Kyon: Big Damn Hero (link at the top). Pay attention to the OP; it has the word fanfic in the very first line.

I'm sorry, perhaps you missed the "in this particular fan series" in my post.

edited 15th Sep '10 8:29:30 AM by IYellalot

Discover the rest as the game progresses.
 14 Filraen, Wed, 15th Sep '10 10:14:51 AM from Monstro Town
Phone-posting isn't fun.

Awesome: Haruhi's Bavarian Fire Drill, she even managed to get Watanabe and Yamane in. She may have powers but she doesn't need them.

Funny: Koizumi's reaction to Haruhi's emotions when ple was kissing Kyon, as Tsuruya can confirm.

Heartwarming: a lot to choose from... Either Mikuru's mail to Kyon, implicitly forgiving him; or Mikuru(big)'s "World of Cardboard" Speech and her whole meeting that day, foreshadowing how the ...time limit :-[ relationships between members will end, Nakama and polyamorous.

Bonus: Biggest shock/surprise: when Haruhi first considered the Tenchi Solution as a real possibility.

edited 16th Sep '10 5:21:40 PM by Filraen

 15 Marq FJA, Wed, 15th Sep '10 11:32:44 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
Awesome: By character.
  1. Kyon: Going Dissonant Serenity Tranquil Fury on Yamane. No questions asked. cool
  2. Yuki: The 24 Yakuza Curb-Stomp Battle... for now. I get the feeling that she's going to get something even better in the future.
  3. Haruhi: Chapter 31's No Sell. Yeah, she did a CMOA that she's not aware of.

I'll give the rest once I actually get around to them. wink

@Filraen: Fridge Brilliance, huh? I actually guessed it immediately once I got to the part where Haruhi told Koizumi to use his ESP. I was thinking "Uh, Haruhi, he needs Closed Spa- Wait, what am I thinking? This is Haruhi! She'll just ignore that limitation. cool"

^^ I didn't know that fanfics are also referred to as "fan series". "Fan series" is not only too vague, it also implies that you're talking about a fanfic franchise, because that's the only way I've ever saw the term "series" being used in fanfic community.

edited 15th Sep '10 11:43:32 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 16 Filraen, Thu, 16th Sep '10 3:17:31 PM from Monstro Town
I have a different theory: Yuki unlocked Koizumi's ESP for use outside Closed Space. How she could know that exactly? Reading Haruhi's memetic link.

The thing that worries of about the No Sell theory is it implies Yuki can't control Haruhi's power completely.

edited 16th Sep '10 3:25:14 PM by Filraen

 17 Marq FJA, Thu, 16th Sep '10 9:00:55 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
^ Of course Yuki can't control it completely; otherwise, the Closed Spaces in early chapters wouldn't have manifested in the first place, and Haruhi wouldn't be able to apply her Neuro-Vault Memory Gambit on her own, while trapped in a Closed Space that is completely isolated from the "real world" in which Yuki is still located.

And technically speaking, your proposed interpretation still equates to "No Sell by Haruhi"  *; she just relegates the actual execution process to Yuki with Kyon's permission, and Kyon already gave Yuki express permission to disregard anything that she believes is bad in Chapter 2. It's not unreasonable that she inferred from that permission that she also has permission to execute any order/wish/"programme" that she deems to be necessary now (like a life-or-death situation) without waiting for Kyon's actual permission.
Kyon: "In the meantime, Nagato ... you can safely disregard things that you know are a bad idea. Don't let Haruhi bother you too much; I trust your judgement."

Yuki: "Thank you."

edited 16th Sep '10 9:04:10 PM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 18 Krasinet, Fri, 17th Sep '10 12:46:30 PM from a sub-temporal anomaly
Love this fanfic so much! My favourite line so far is one of Koizumi's, oddly enough, just because it's exactly what I would have said in his position (I was thinking it at the moment I read it, which made be fall off my chair with laughter. My brother now thinks I'm crazy). From Chapter 26:
Koizumi:"I believe my point has been significantly punctuated."

edited 17th Sep '10 12:47:03 PM by Krasinet

Eheheh...
Kyon is going to name his weapons Altair and Vega. These are the stars linked to the legend of Tanabata (Vega and Altair represent Orihime and Hikoboshi respectively). This was mentioned in detail at the start of the story Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody of the light novels. As bonus, both names are guns' names in the PS2's game Final Fantasy XII (at least in the English version). The game was released during 2006 (at the end of the chapter thirty one, the date in-story appears to be May 21, 2011) and Kyon owns the game system according to the story, so it's not unthinkable for him to know about this.

Saw that on the WMG page. It does seem a little incomplete (Kyon DOES have one more weapon) but I have no idea about a suitable name for the beam sabre. Hmmm...
Now collecting White-Haired Pretty Girls.
I got to say I do like the idea of Kyon naming a weapon after Alta´r as it also ties into the site with the Grand Unifying Guesses.
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 21 Filraen, Sat, 18th Sep '10 10:38:51 AM from Monstro Town
^^^^ That's because I believe Haruhi destroyed Closed Space but didn't change Koizumi's ESP. Since he needs to be in one to use his powers he was effectively depowered.

edited 18th Sep '10 10:40:11 AM by Filraen

 22 Marq FJA, Sat, 18th Sep '10 10:48:58 AM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
^ Closed Space does not even exist until Haruhi's frustration and/or boredom subconsciously generate them; they're currently only absent because Haruhi's frustration/boredom hasn't hit high enough levels required for their generation, though that may change in the future.

The bottom line is, the notion that her Neuro-Vault Memory Gambit resulted in their destruction is meaningless, because you cannot destroy what does not (currently) exist. They are a result of Haruhi's lack of effective control on her Reality Warping power combined with that same power being intrinsically affected by her general mental state (does that count as a form of Psychoactive Powers?).

Oh, and "destroying Closed Space" is basically what the Kyon, Koizumi, Mikuru and Yuki had done several times in the past whenever a Closed Space manifested - by destroying the Shinjin that simultaneously manifests within it.

edited 18th Sep '10 10:51:22 AM by MarqFJA

Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
Eheheh...
I thought that Haruhi effectively made it so that Closed Space could never again form?

As for the Memory Gambit... has anyone worked out why she did that, yet? I can't work out what the hell it's meant to be implying from the trope/K:BDH pages...
Now collecting White-Haired Pretty Girls.
 24 Marq FJA, Sat, 18th Sep '10 2:39:34 PM from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
O' Allah, save Egypt
You just answered your own question: The Memory Gambit was to prevent Closed Space from manifesting again every time Haruhi's frustration/boredom hits critical mass, specifically because:
  1. She has an outlet in the form of Mind over Matter.
  2. She "remembers" that Yuki had made it so her Reality Warping is fully under control via the "management by proxy" deal; this takes away the Blessed with Suck anxiety over her power going out of control, which removes a major source of frustration from the equation.
Ash-shaʻb yurīd isqāṭ ḥukm al-ʻaskar
 25 Ack Sed, Sat, 18th Sep '10 5:35:51 PM from Pure Imagination
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Okay, hands up who found Yuki's first kiss in ch. 13 really, really sexy? 'Cause I did.evil grin
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