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Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#1: Apr 27th 2018 at 3:07:57 AM

I'm going to add some examples to Square Peg Round Trope, but 'before'' I do, I want to check if these examples fit:

  • Alternate Continuity does not always mean "non-canon". That trope is Canon Discontinuity. The actual usage of Alternate Continuity is when a setting is its own separate work, occupying a distinct, irreconcilable timeline and plot. A work can have several canons itself, therefore, an Alternate Continuity can often be a separate canon. It's just how canonical it is in relation to the "main" continuity.
    • It is not an Alternate Universe unless its existence is acknowledged within a work, usually the main continuity. However, it technically is classified as one.
  • Badass Decay is not about a Badass becoming corrupt, but instead when a Badass character becomes less badass over time.
  • Bizarro Episode is about an episode that's a lot more off-the-wall compared to the rest of the series. It's not an Audience Reactions trope meaning "I didn't like that episode, it's weird".
  • Bottle Episode does not mean an episode with a minimal amount of characters in one location and it isnt an episode about alcohol or The Alcoholic. The trope ifor a minimal amount of characters is Minimalist Cast. A bottle episode is about saving the budget and often being confined to one location, not necessarily the number of characters, although there can be overlap between Bottle Episode and Minimalist Cast.
  • Broad Strokes does not mean "it didn't happen". It means that Canon is a guideline, and the events did happen, but not exactly the same as the source material. It's not just a generic term for "skip over bits we don't like"; that's Fanon Discontinuity.
  • Captain Ersatz is about a character who is very similar to one from an existing series, but different enough to avoid copyright infringement. For example,Deadpool is one of Deathstroke from DC Comics. An Expy is a character who's a blatant and deliberate copy of another character with, eventually, few minor differences. However, these two tropes are often confused.
  • Harmless Villain refers to a villain who isn't particularly threatening, not a villain who can't harm the heroes.
  • Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain doesn't refer to a villain who is The Woobie, but a villain who fails so often that the audience feels sympathetic towards them.
  • Loads And Loads Of Characters is when a work has multiple amounts of main characters and can often be an Ensemble Cast. Game of Thrones is one such example, if not the Ur-Example. Many examples added are often to try and convince readers the work is not a Minimalist Cast.
  • Ultimate Universe is not the same as The Remake or Continuity Reboot; it's when a work is a modernized remake that takes place in the same medium as the original, so a comic book-to-movie adaptation doesn't count.
  • Webcomic Time isn't about Time Travel in Webcomics, but is instead about when the events of a serialized story take place over a shorter (in-universe) time than the (real-life) time it takes for the story to be produced. Basically, publication time does not equal the passage of time In-Universe.


Do these definitions make sense? Feel free to change anything as needed!

edited 27th Apr '18 3:48:39 AM by Merseyuser1

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#2: Apr 27th 2018 at 6:04:42 AM

Some of these sound like I Thought It Meant. Square Peg Round Trope is for trope confusions that actually happen, and that you've actually had to correct in the past. Your writeups for Badass Decay, Bottle Episode (specifically the part about alcohol), Harmless Villain, and Webcomic Time seem to be ITIM.

Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain mentions that the villain isn't The Woobie and that the audience feels sorry for them, but The Woobie is an Audience Reaction about feeling sorry for a character. In fact, the laconic description of Ineffectual Sympathetic Villain contains a pothole to The Woobie.

Also, Game of Thrones, whether we're talking about the TV show to which you've linked or the book, probably isn't the Ur-Example to anything considering how recent it is. Ur-Example is about the earliest work that contains a trope, and there are many much older stories with lots of main characters (a quick look at the examples list tells me that the trope is Older Than Feudalism).

Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#3: Apr 28th 2018 at 3:57:57 PM

No worries. Maybe these belong on another index.

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