Trope Pantheon Story thread

Gee, thanks for spoiling Zero Specter (okay, not really. I didn't just know that was revealed before checking your sandbox).

And do we even have a fitting evil trio what would become Dark Sentai Necroranger?

edited 8th Jun '16 8:06:49 AM by TPPR10

I don't know, btw this will put them under Proto Mega Ulorder users.

Anyways I wanna give Dark Ghost to Towa Akagi of the Princess Pretty Cures cuz there will be a scenario in my story that she'll ended up being captured during an infiltration mission and brainwashed once again by SHOCKER as Twilight while she also gains Dark Ghost's powers and being forced to fight her allies in her brainwashed state.

edited 10th Jun '16 4:49:51 AM by n3xus

Here are a few ideas I'm throwing out:

1. Dexter from Dexter hanging out with Frisk from Undertale.

2. A Yu-Gi-Oh Battle Royale with Yugi, Judai, Yusei, Yuma, Frisk and Linkara.

So I'm heading off again and won't be back (at most) January 2017. I'm sorry if I've been the recent debacle on what is a Spotlight-Stealing Squad in regards to stories and all.

I hope things will settle down when I return, and hopefully i get inspired to get new gods into the pantheon. Thank you for keeping up with me these last few months and see you soon.

I've had some serious thought on what to do with "Gentaro's Epilogue", but I think I know what could be made of it:

The tale will be mostly a stand-alone, and takes place during Halloween. Missy and the Cybermen are no longer involved, and Jafar will now serve as the main antagonist (but we might have a second antagonist involved as well). Cosmos has commissioned the White Hats after being impressed with the hackers in "The Friendship Asylum", and the quintet are setting their mountain lab up alongside their allies (Sly and Murray, Spike Spiegel, Solid Snake and Raiden) at the beginning.

I still want Diancie to be involved, but she will have a reduced role, given that the Cybermen are no longer involved (but to keep continuity with their portfolio, she'll mention them trying to steal her Heart Diamond at one point). Yveltal is no longer involved.

Jack Skellington will be involved this time, and his ideas of a "perfect Halloween" would likely set the hackers into their motion.

So in celebration of Berserk getting its Dynasty Warriors spin-off... I would like to share with you with a story idea I could help. Nothing to do with Morality Civil War, so no arcs. But basically...

It's just about the horrific Eclipse. I would like to 'repeat' that, but mostly without the Rape part. The difference? Unlike in Berserk where everyone in the Band of the Hawks were slaughtered, this is a testament that the Trope Pantheons are very much different than Midlands: They slap the 'fate' that decreed that every demons will have their feast, and instead, everyone branded with the mark proceeds to kick much ass and make the Godhands and Femto have some sort of Villainous Breakdown: "WHY!? YOU WERE MEANT TO BE DEVOURED BY US! IT WAS HOW IT WAS WRITTEN BY FATE!!", and every involved ones give them a massive Shut Up, Hannibal! and saying that while it's true the fate of the Band of the Hawk cannot be reversed, these goddamn Godhands will NOT have the same luxury in Trope Pantheons and dedicate their battle to honor the fallen Band of the Hawks and the sad fates of Guts and Casca. And to rub the salt in the wound, another good magical deity proceed to wipe off the Brand of Sacrifices from the survivors. (or if there is Mercy... what was that, there was casualties and they're doomed to be gnawed by demons forever in the afterlife for dying in Eclipse? HEROES NEVER DIE)

And in the end... this 'Eclipse' was either a failure or grand failure. In the latter case... there's not even a new Godhand member born, and they lose about 95% of their Apostles population.. In the former case, they still lose 95% of their population, but a new 'unofficial' new Godhand member rose.

Whether it's just a failure or a grand failure, that depends on a certain 'member focus': Who would commit the Moral Event Horizon? In Griffith's agenda, it seems to be Litchi from Blaz Blue, but anything can change: He can easily switch his target to Ragna, the events of CF might make him leer that way even for the 'good of others'. Or it could even be Kokonoe. Or heck, it could be ANYONE ELSE from another story.

So, my question to you all:

• Who will be best fitting the 'focus' or 'getting offered as the new Godhand member', and what are the chances of accepting? This better be someone who has built up a network of friendship, only to betray them and if they betray, it will be considered utterly heinous. I wouldn't count the likes of Arthas here because he has been stationed on the side of 'Bad' for quite some time. So yeah. Who?
• Who will be included as the ones given 'Brand of Sacrifice'?

Thanks.

edited 23rd Jun '16 3:29:49 AM by ChrisX

This is not really related to what you said, since I don't know that much about Berserk, but your talk just made me realize how dangerous Dougen really is when he ascends. You see, his greatest assets are yoma, demonic deities who are drawn to the human world thanks to the bloodshed between the shinobi. A thing what goes in cycles. Shinobi are trained to defeat the yoma. However, the bloodshed between the different factions just draw more yoma, and the cycle continue until Shin is defeated. Now, think about the great war between good and evil. The Pantheon is basically in Forever War, even in on-off Cold War kind of way. And while this might not be canon (as it comes from ARG from Xseed Europe), but the bloodshed thing might just be symbolic, as rather than being drawn by the blood, they are drawn by the act of spilling blood. In other words, they are drawn by conflict. And reason why shinobi specifically draw them in is because Shinobi Barriers are pocket dimensions located between the human world and yoma world, thus making it easier for them to reach out. So if Dougen can call them in by simple conflict, he can easily create an army in no time. Not only that, but some yoma have said to have been humans in the past and he himself has bred them using blood from specific people. One single Blood-Splattered Warrior would probably benefit him for a long time.

Now to tie this with above post, would he be interest on becoming a Godhand, or Apostles? Probably not. Not because he wouldn't abandon his humanity (he has practically become a yoma by eating a yoma fetus), nor does he have anyone he cares enough and he does want to use any easy way to become the strongest. Just that he is a kind of guy who wants to be in control. And making a Deal with the Devil wouldn't benefit him. He wouldn't serve the Idea of Evil, he would rather manipulate it for his own benefits.

edited 23rd Jun '16 8:34:18 AM by TPPR10

That is an interesting notion there. I'm sure your knowledge on Senran Kagura will prove informative when the time comes.

Also unless anyone hasn't been following, I had a hunch that the closest of the BB cast to even accept 'God Hand' invitation would be... Carl. By the time CF ended, he has realized that he is no different than Relius, coldly manipulating others for his own benefit and desire to save Ada, to the point he doesn't really care about common 'good and bad', he's now on tunnel vision: "If you can save Ada, then you're Good in my book. The rest can go to hell.". The God Hands will see this as a very exploitable manner and may offer him things like "If you become a God Hand like us, you can screw with causality and then make sure that Ada returns to life." This happens, then Carl would happily join in the God Hands.

Yes, I realize that there is the same implication of the same thing happening on Litchi (except replace Ada with Roy). However, Carl so far has been more blatant about it.

So on more Rider Candidates, I noticed that now that there are four Dark Necroms, I think we can now try to find some four-man villain group or something. There is also Xtremer, I guess, but let's see what's his deal is.

edited 1st Jul '16 8:44:33 AM by TPPR10

I'm thinking of something different. Instead of the infamous Eclipse part done all over again, why don't we just have a story with all the Musou games together, with a patchwork map and each character having a different story. Raoh vs Ganondorf, Link vs the God Hand, and other match ups.

I was thinking that the Dark Necroms Red, Blue, and Yellow will have an Adaptational Heroism of sorts in my story since they're will be initially under SHOCKER's control. Moreover, my candidate for Zero Specter will be Lelouch vi Britannia while in Extremer's case, it is either Light Yagami or Embryo cuz we need more evil riders btw.

edited 1st Jul '16 6:04:19 PM by n3xus

I think the concept is that 'Eclipse, but the God Hand and Apostles loses with this message implanted around them: "Don't fuck around with heroes."' Instead of last time 'Eclipse, and God Hand wins. Period.'

I think both of our ideas should be used. The Eclipse happens, the worlds that have been in Musou games have merged into a patchwork map, along with the Senran Kagura and Neptunia U. It should make for a... rather interesting story. And yes, the heroes of the story will manage to face the God Hand and the Apostles, so the message will still apply.

Then again, who doesn't want to see a story where Raoh and Ganondorf fight each other while mooks from all the musou games get slaughtered. I'd probably would like to see Link go up against the God Hand.

Jagi already passed the horizon, but he's a coward.

edited 1st Jul '16 7:29:25 PM by Gehayadren

As an ideal target for the God Hand, who is the closest to a Despair Event Horizon? Those on the brink of despair and have said dark tendencies are often the first targets.

I dunno about that on Jagi. Eclipse mostly takes a 'somehow good' guy to cross the grand Moral Event Horizon for the first time. Since Jagi is... already bad in the first place, I don't think the effect will be that great, plus he'd have 'less' candidates for 'Brand of Sacrifice'. This is why I said the candidates in Blaz Blue are a lot more perfect candidates, since they were juggling between 'good and bad' and it just takes ONE MOVE to make them fall to the Godhands design. Heck, that's why I said Carl is the perfect target: He's teetering in despair about trying to save Ada that on realization that he's just as bad as his father, rather than resisting, he just went with it and goes to tunnel vision by making his definition of good/justice: "Anything that can save Ada" and "The rest can go to hell."

I would consider Litchi, but I think at this point, people would be sick of me pushing her a lot. So Carl for a change.

While you can include Musou characters, I would rather that it's not limited to Musou characters. It's a free-for-all, but make sure the good guys drive the message about "Your Villain Sue creds have been revoked, at least here in Trope Pantheons".

edited 1st Jul '16 8:41:46 PM by ChrisX

I made some updates regarding on the Rider candidates, KR Raia's potential candidate Hilda from Cross Ange is now replaced by Gundam X's Tiffa Adill who is also being Blessed with Suck with Newtype precognition powers which is similar to Miyuki Tezuka's (KR Raia's original user) prediction powers.

edited 14th Jul '16 9:07:25 PM by n3xus

So first of all, when are we going to move these stories?

Second of all, I sort of want to make a short tale about Touhou Junko meeting with DR Junko.I sort of imagine that Junko would threaten Enoshima with a karmic fate by threatening to turn her into a manifestation of despair... but removing any enjoyment of it, meaning that she would life the rest of her existence as despair-filled girl with nothing else to her.

Interesting. I hasn't been quite following Touhou... so what does this Junko do?

Basically, Junko has the power to purify anything. The actual application of the power is a kind of turning something into a primordial state and then having them manifest as a certain thing ^note The idea was explained in one chapter of Curiosities of Lotus Asian when Rinnosuke goes into details about the meaning of names. For example, gods in the beginning were gods of myriad of things. However, once they were named, they were limited to be gods of certain things.. She herself used her powers on herself to turn herself into a manifestation of resentment after her son's death. However, she did it to the point where she more or less stripped herself from her identity, and what originally was grudge for the man who killed her daughter turned into grudge forwards the man's wife (Chang'e) for no reason. Doesn't help that Junko is said to have already killed that man, who might have also been her husband as well ^note To explain her connection with Chang'e all of the sudden, there are actually two Houyis in China; the archer we know and one tyrannical emperor during Xia Dynasty. The said Houyi usurped the previous emperor and married the emperor's wife (Chun Hu) and the two of them had a child (Bo Feng) whom Houyi killed. Chun Hu later killed Houyi as revenge for her son's death. Now whenever or not the archer and the emperor meant to be same person is in question, but in Touhou, elements of both of them are combined together. She also used her powers to turn an army of fairies into pure life energy.

Sounds like the go-to person even better than Kenshiro if you want to make Enoshima not become a Despair fetishist and then have a completely straight Villainous Breakdown in the face of despair.

Or maybe that thing about Terumi not nourishing on Despair...

The problem I have now is that I have hard time trying to figure out how could the two meet, and what could lead to Junko swearing bloody revenge on Enoshima. My best idea is that Enoshima tries to trick Junko on trying to make an alliance so that the latter can get her revenge on Chang'e, but her real intention is to see if she can drive her into despair by reminding her of the origin of her grudge. Too bad for her, that just makes Junko get angry... at her

^Remeber though, if you want to make Tou-ko (Touhou Junko) angry, it must be of the Tranquil Fury variety. She's grudge incarnate, but that mean she isn't going to have your conventional type of angry.

Speaking of Touhou's propaganda, could i post a story in the slice of life section of Tales? The name is "Fantasy Heaven's report". It's kinda clear what I'm trying to do.

Also HIIIIII!! It been a while.

Welcome back

For a while though.

I know I've said it before, but I'm annoyed the Law Reformation's ending of YHVH's defeat has already been shown. Write it if you much, but please could you store it in your sandbox until it's ready?

Now, about the Law Reformation, here's my idea for Part 1 of the story; basically, it's the build-up. The Reformists begin undermining the Loyalists, and the Loyalists react. I don't think YHVH needs to do another horrible act to set them off; he has plenty to justify a revolution. Both sides need to have moral ambiguity, such as good or evil characters siding with the Loyalists and Reformists respectively