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On TV Tropes, it's very common for editors to misuse appearance tropes, as well as tropes whose names make them sound like they could be appearance tropes.

Meaningful Appearance tropes are often misused in ways that overlook the "Meaningful" aspect, resulting in Zero Context Examples and misuse in the form of examples that have no meaning even if the tropes themselves are not People Sit on Chairs.

The Appearance Tropes Cleanup sandbox covers tropes with potential issues. Tropes that simply require cleanup will go through this thread, while tropes that require more significant action will have to go through the Trope Repair Shop.

April 2, 2023 update: This thread is no longer for making changes to tropes, and was brought back from the Projects Morgue solely for cleanup. Making changes to tropes is still a job for the Trope Repair Shop.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 2nd 2023 at 9:18:26 AM

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#1826: Feb 27th 2017 at 11:22:26 PM

The stereotype is they are just eye candy for TV, that is generally it. When they make fun of the trope its pure Dumb Blonde or Ted Baxter style of dumbness.

Its a very common thing for people of that type to be in Sitcoms. It is gender neutral as well.

edited 27th Feb '17 11:23:17 PM by Memers

captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#1827: Feb 28th 2017 at 1:59:35 AM

If looks are what got the character the job there's Hired for Their Looks

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1828: Feb 28th 2017 at 6:16:22 AM

Something like Eye Candy New Anchor could be a trope, but only if the character is noted as hot In-Universe. Things like Its Always Sunny In Philadelphia having the guys hop between news reports anchored by busty women is a fairly common trope.

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ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#1829: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:38:33 AM

Wouldn't that be The Same But More Specific? I suppose "be photo genetic" could possibly be in a news anchor's job description but it is unlikely.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1830: Feb 28th 2017 at 11:52:59 AM

Yes, that would be too specific.

So, to be clear we have Hired for Their Looks for people being hired for their looks and Sex Sells for when looks are used to promote a business.

So we'd need Hollywood Beauty Standards or somesuch for the supertrope (prolly not Trivia as it has direct effects on the story), subtropes for Hospital Hottie when it's not plausible and merge the ones which aren't different from the supertrope (like Hello, Attorney!) into it.

Supertrope should probably also say that Hired for Their Looks/Sex Sells is a common In-Universe justification.

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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#1831: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:02:36 PM

So I do have to point out, Hollywood Homely and Hollywood Pudgy aren't subtropes to Hollywood Beauty Standards, but instead Audience Reactions to it.

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#1832: Feb 28th 2017 at 12:05:31 PM

Aye, these tropes exist because of the Hollywood Beauty Standards.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1833: Mar 8th 2017 at 9:10:33 AM

So, anyone interested in drafting a description text for that trope?

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ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#1834: Mar 23rd 2017 at 1:14:26 PM

It doesn't look like anyone is. I, myself, have nothing for a trope like Hollywood Beauty Standards.

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#1835: Mar 23rd 2017 at 1:37:51 PM

Maybe ~shimaspawn does (she returned recently).

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1836: Mar 23rd 2017 at 1:39:21 PM

I can take a crack at it if it would get rid of all the hottie tropes.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1837: Mar 23rd 2017 at 3:03:57 PM

Let's hope we can do it.

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#1838: Mar 24th 2017 at 5:48:43 PM

All right, so your new film is about a cowgirl, a reporter, a nurse and a teacher. They all have different personalities, different views on life, and different socioeconomic backgrounds. In fact, they have almost nothing in common. Almost.

The one thing they do have in common is that the Casting Director made sure that they were all hot.

Hollywood Beauty Standards are a trope in aggregate. While there are occasionally ugly people cast, the vast majority of people in mainstream media are thin, toned, and perfectly groomed. An unfortunate side effect of this trope is that when everyone in the cast is hot, it's really hard to tell who is supposed to be hot In-Universe. The standards for appearance are so high that they can cause actresses of a healthy weight to be cast as fat.

This can become particularly noticeable when characters living below the poverty line sport five-hundred dollar haircuts, or when the nomad who has been living out in the wilderness for years has perfect skin and teeth.

The In-Universe justifications for this trope tend to be either the Sex Sells or the Hired for Their Looks varieties.

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#1839: Mar 24th 2017 at 6:30:29 PM

[tup] Way better than anything I could have come up with! Nice to have you back.

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#1840: Mar 25th 2017 at 2:19:26 AM

May want to put some citations of Hollywood Pudgy, Hollywood Old and Informed Attractiveness into there. Otherwise seems OK to me. Thinking whether we should have an analysis page too for this concept.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#1841: Mar 26th 2017 at 8:42:40 AM

Just popping in quick to say that per this ATT thread, I'm going to integrate the Unusual Eyebrows examples into one list, instead of the "split between four cosmetic subtropes" situation we have now. I'll wait an hour or so to give people time to complain just to be safe.

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#1842: Mar 26th 2017 at 10:49:30 AM

Fine by me, unless the different types also serve difference purposes or say very different things about the character who has them.

[eta: and it appears that they don't, really. So no objection from me. Clear out the ZCE's too, while you're in there, ok?]

edited 26th Mar '17 10:52:04 AM by Madrugada

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#1843: Mar 26th 2017 at 2:03:20 PM

Nvm misread

edited 26th Mar '17 2:31:03 PM by Memers

ChaoticNovelist Since: Jun, 2010
#1844: Mar 27th 2017 at 2:14:02 PM

I like it. It's detailed yet concise.

captainpat Since: Sep, 2010
#1845: Mar 28th 2017 at 8:45:44 PM

So would Generic Cuteness be the animation version of this trope?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1846: Mar 28th 2017 at 10:59:32 PM

Could be, not necessarily for the same reasons.

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nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#1847: Mar 29th 2017 at 1:01:09 AM

To be honest, I've never entirely understood what Generic Cuteness is.

YourIdeas Since: Mar, 2014
#1848: Mar 29th 2017 at 2:05:30 AM

[up] Kind of reading over Generic Cuteness again and looking at the examples, I think it seems a little unclear also what it's trying to be exactly as the description's open to some interpretation.

"Characters in a series are drawn in such a way that there isn't an obviously 'ugly' person in the cast" seems to be the main trope with Informed Deformity and Informed Attractiveness being key, but not necessary to being able to notice this in a work. Really though, I think this needs to be said or shown somewhere in a work, otherwise it's Only Six Faces but with 'cute' features, which isn't a very strong difference. Most of the examples on Generic Cuteness however seem pretty good about providing examples in universe, so at worst, it may need some examples cleaned up.

edited 29th Mar '17 2:06:14 AM by YourIdeas

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#1849: Mar 29th 2017 at 6:33:14 AM

It's more like it's a minimalist art style where someone is implied to be cute but you can't tell cause their visual traits are the same as everyone else.

Also works for ugly/homely too, those who want to make a character fugly will go to the Gonk extreme instead. It's not often when characters leave the art style like Gonk to show beauty but it does happen, usually with flowy Shōjo styles.

edited 29th Mar '17 6:35:10 AM by Memers

acrobox Since: Nov, 2010
#1850: Mar 29th 2017 at 7:18:20 AM

Generic Cuteness as a sometimes super trope to Informed Deformity or Informed Attractiveness, depending on context. It makes the other two more likely unless you want to go Gonk or another extreme.

edited 29th Mar '17 7:19:03 AM by acrobox


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