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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5826: Jan 24th 2018 at 12:27:31 AM

Anyone wanna help find the drafts for Jerk-to-Nice-Guy Plot and Friendship as Courtship? I can't find their YKTTW archives at their discussion pages, or their entries the launch list, or at the search engine. I'm sure they had drafts, though I'm pretty sure they had been renamed or discarded.

Please and thank you.

edited 24th Jan '18 12:28:32 AM by alnair20aug93

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5827: Jan 24th 2018 at 4:16:01 AM

Characters.Character Sheet Template is a block of text about .... something or other

Happy End and Weekend looks very stubby I'm not sure what sort of notifier it needs

Stupid Short Eevee Comic has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Dangan Ronpa Power Play has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Wish You Were Here has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Our Only May Amelia has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Lauren the Flute has no tropes, sent stub notifier

My Thomas Story Library has one trope, sent stub notifier

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TorpidDrake Since: Jun, 2017
#5829: Jan 24th 2018 at 11:07:45 PM

I accidentally launched One for the Money; One for the Art, and I have no idea how to un-launch it.

Can you please help me?

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Veteran Editor IV
#5830: Jan 25th 2018 at 2:15:13 AM

It appears as a redlink, so you've probably made a typo.

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5831: Jan 25th 2018 at 5:12:55 AM

No, One for the Money; One for the Art is definitely on the launch list. It was launched with an apparently blank draft, though, and even has the "Troped" label on the draft.

edited 25th Jan '18 5:13:24 AM by WaterBlap

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Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#5832: Jan 25th 2018 at 10:29:44 AM

Well, it's unlaunched, so that explains why the link's red now.

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5833: Jan 26th 2018 at 5:15:40 AM

Question: Should the OP also participate in the drafts they made, as a troper named Quatic has launched Hastily Hidden MacGuffin, Trial Run Crime, and Net Gun (drafts 1, 2, 3); all three made and launched by the OP, but barely participated in the discussion.

And, while we're at it with tropes launched by launcher who barely participated, what shall we do with Lawful Pushover?

edited 26th Jan '18 5:18:15 AM by alnair20aug93

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5834: Jan 26th 2018 at 5:24:40 AM

I still think it should be sent back for a better name but it did have a net of 3 hats, making not launch-ready.

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#5835: Jan 26th 2018 at 7:10:47 AM

[up][up] The OP should participate, but they don't always. Launching before ready -up to site standards- is a no go, though.

Those drafts need to be sent back.

edited 26th Jan '18 7:12:37 AM by Candi

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
#5836: Jan 26th 2018 at 12:45:37 PM

Characters.Tooth And Claw is a page which someone obviously spent a fair amount of work on. Unfortunately, they neglected to include even a single trope! And honestly, the main page for the work really isn't long enough to justify a separate character page.

I would have just tossed it on the cut list as an obvious stub if it weren't such a long, elaborate stub. As it is, I thought I'd get a second opinion.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#5837: Jan 26th 2018 at 1:18:10 PM

Game Gourmet was launched by Sea Rover without a clear definition of what makes a game fit this trope?

As said in the TLP by Not On Any Flatbread:

this seems to just be a list of games/media where a "large" variety of food appears, without any clear link beyond "The developers decided to put in a bunch of food" (nor a clear definition of "large").

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5838: Jan 26th 2018 at 3:17:56 PM

Someone just launched Limerick - it was in no state to be launched and, IMO, is Not A Trope anyway so should be culled.

Also seems like a rogue launch given that nobody has removed the draft notes, including the No Launching Please. Seems like New_Jack_Swing launched it without partaking in any TLP draft, usually editing games pages. Needs a few taps.

edited 26th Jan '18 3:23:41 PM by lakingsif

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5839: Jan 26th 2018 at 3:25:51 PM

For some reason, I thought that was part of the LimerickWiki/ discussion but it turns out that discussion was long dead.

There's no link in the discussion page to the TLP draft, so it was not launched correctly.

[nja]The page said No Launching Please but New_Jack_Swing launched it anyway.[nja]

[down] ಠ_ಠ

edited 26th Jan '18 3:43:55 PM by WaterBlap

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5840: Jan 26th 2018 at 3:40:10 PM

Draft is still active, sighs.

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5841: Jan 26th 2018 at 9:34:09 PM

[up]...

Draft here.

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5842: Jan 26th 2018 at 10:54:28 PM

I stuck the page on the cut list just for ease. If someone wants to launch the draft when the page exists it will probably blow up the site or something.

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5843: Jan 27th 2018 at 8:27:01 AM

Oh, ok. Thanks for explaining that. Now, we must holler the mods about this.

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alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#5844: Jan 27th 2018 at 9:58:21 AM

^^ And Haiku is also Not A Trope, yet we still put it in our pages for literally poetic reasons.

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5845: Jan 27th 2018 at 1:57:07 PM

We have Haiku Wiki. We don’t have Limerick Wiki - actually go look at the Haiku page AND ANYWAY the page is just a list of limericks. Other poetic forms hold formal meaning, as I’m sure limericks do, but the page would need to change focus. As in, needs a lot of work.

edited 27th Jan '18 1:59:42 PM by lakingsif

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
Sorcerer in training
#5846: Jan 27th 2018 at 8:27:24 PM

[up]Several: Move the Tooth and Claw material to the main page and check for applicable examples on trope pages?

[down]This is the post I was referring to.

edited 27th Jan '18 8:47:03 PM by Candi

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lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5847: Jan 27th 2018 at 8:39:39 PM

~Candi wrong thread

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SeaRover Since: Mar, 2012
#5848: Jan 28th 2018 at 1:10:41 AM

Okay, just defined the criteria for Game Gourmet now. Might modify some more if I see necessary at any point.

edited 28th Jan '18 1:11:04 AM by SeaRover

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5849: Jan 28th 2018 at 4:59:22 AM

Tiny Cat People has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Tangled Cords has no tropes, sent stub notifier

Eight Bit Author Tournament has no tropes, sent stub notifier

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5850: Jan 28th 2018 at 5:27:43 AM

Quatric seems to have done some TLP cleaning of their old drafts, which is itself fine, but there are two tropes in particular that I don't think were ready for launch.

  • Trial Run Crime is a stub launched by the original sponsor. Over the course of three years, it somehow got five hats, but it clearly wasn't ready. Last reply in the draft was in September 2017. (Stub notifier sent.)
  • Net Gun, which had 5 hats and 2 bombs for a net of 3 hats. Last reply was 1 January 2018.

Also, Haiku and Limerick are formats like Novelette and Poetry. I'm not sure what the issue is with having them.

edited 28th Jan '18 5:30:41 AM by WaterBlap

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