Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.
Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.
For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages
. Launches
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Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM
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Also cut.
Like Goes with Like was launched with no hats and a "tropeworthy?" tag. It also has a bad title which might be the reason why it has few examples and wicks.
A genius, a philosopher, an abstract thinker
There is no Planet B
Send back, I'd say.
I mostly agree with that.
Another item: Saban Brands. Is it worked out enough to escape the stub cutting.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Captain of USS Bajor
Still waiting for a decision on No Dub for You.
No.
Send to YKTTW.
Captain of USS Bajor
Also, we actually have an administrivia index for works lacking a trope list (or an extensive trope list), Works Needing Tropes. I submit we start putting the works there after namespacing them, rather than burning.
(she/her)
Cut. It doesn't have a trope list, a bare-bones description (although that's probably the least of it's problems) and it's not in the right namespace.
In uffish thought
Human Trafficking. I think that currently it's meant to be a three-sentence useful note, but it's indexed like a trope.
Agree on cutting Graal Classic.
edited 13th Apr '13 10:17:55 AM by Telcontar
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
Also agree on the above.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Cut all three. (Graal Classic onward)
Wudan Mountain. Also created recently.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Cut it. Even if is worth recreating, the Wudang Mountains is simply a mountain range. A trope name or Useful Notes page describing the association between the mountain range and martial arts would need a more specific name.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wudang_Mountains#Association_with_martial_arts
Also, PM the creator and suggest steps they can take to do a better job.
Wandering...
I think Love And Honor But Not Obey should be brought back to YKTTW if not outright unlaunched.
YKTTW can be found here: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=rcf67ifambggkypi66l61aqq&trope=LoveAndHonorButNotObey
What I specifically find wrong with it is that right now it doesn't say anything but the laconic and "these women may be Straw Feminists."
Not entirely sure what to do with that one. It technically has tropes, but they're all zero-context... At the very least, it needs to be namespaced.
Wholeheartedly support unlaunching.
I think it is generally better to PM people that create a new work page and explain to them how to fix the page than it is to simply cutlist it. The first option creates a better troper. The second option pisses people off and discourages further contribution.
Also, the person may be planning on adding context to the tropes, but simply hasn't gotten around to it yet.
PS: VideoGame.Red March is now in its correct namespace and the main editor of the page (Vengefulnoob) has done edits, so he/she seems to now be aware of the correct namespace.
Therefore, Main.Red March can be cut, given that it has no inbounds.
edited 14th Apr '13 2:00:23 PM by Catbert
I've cutlisted Red March. Going to take the PM advice there.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Cutlisted a bunch of acronym pages and PM'ed the creator about proper page creation.
Also, from today's slot: Soccer Mom, Malignant Selflove Narcissism Revisited (Called the person in), And How and Stand By Your Maniac.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
"In distress", my ass.
^ All of them (save the work stub you mentioned as being handled otherwise) need axing, with And How failing on multiple levels: Verbal Tic magnet, Stock Phrase, exampleless stub, and unindexed. For that one in particular: fire, kill with. Purge the heresy!
Cut all of them (and PM the work creator—there's no need to keep the page, as it's not namespaced). Soccer Mom probably is a trope, at least in North America, but it needs to go through YKTTW.
Cutlisted MSNR. lu127 caught And How already. Messaged the tropers of the other two pages; waiting for a reply.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
While YKTTW isn't always necessary, in Soccer Mom the only examples just basically says, "X is a soccer mom," and there are no links to any other tropes so I agree it can use YKTTW.
I agree that it's better to PM the people and Love And Honor But Not Obey needs more description. It's examples are looking good though.
The very concept of And How would encourage Zero Context Examples. It should be cut.
edited 15th Apr '13 9:30:34 AM by lexicon
Going to do that. In the meantime:
Gary And Mike
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman