No, the other one.
Other than changing it to, "It's also usually relatively easy to access so it gets a sizable amount of visitors," sure.
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Actually, get rid of that line entirely because it's contradicted by the description later on. Accessibility is highly variable depending on universe. I know more hard to access examples than easy to access ones.
edited 12th Dec '12 1:29:50 PM by shimaspawn
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Sooo... this with the links added back in and the line about accessiblity removed?:
Often times this is guarded by a Magic Librarian or other force. Sometimes there will be a struggle with another group trying to obtain the same information, sometimes in a physical fight, but just as often with a Battle of Wits. If you're lucky, you'll find what you need. If you're not, it may turn out to be a Blank Book all along.
In many works, this setting is either very hard to get to, long forgotten, or rumoured to be a myth. In sci-fi and High Fantasy works, however, the library can be quite well publicized, and it's sometimes a big tourist destination.
Please note that the library has to be a physical establishment and is located in a single place. Things such as the internet (which doesn't have a reasonable fraction of anything anyway) do not count.
edited 12th Dec '12 1:41:32 PM by Oreochan
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That's great. Go with that version.
No, the other one.
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except one minor wording nitpick: The internet doesn't have a reasonable fraction of everything anyway.
World's Toughest Milkman
With Arcades' change (which seems to have been incorporated), I'm good with that.
eta: actually, the part about "located in a single place" might be iffy. I think some of them move around and/or can be summoned and/or exist in multiple places at once (one of the element's of Pratchett's L-Space). If that could be phrased in a way that doesn't emphasize "single", it might be better. But that's really minor, and not worth holding things up for. Only fix it if an easy fix springs to mind (which it doesn't for me).
edited 14th Jan '13 7:42:08 PM by Xtifr
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No, the other one.
Can you summon those from different places in that universe, at once, or do you have to travel to a certain location?
Is it like a pocket dimension that can "attach to" any one spot in the regular world?
World's Toughest Milkman
L-Space protrudes into multiple different dimensions. Various libraries (and some musty old bookstores) are simultaneously part of it and part of the world where they manifest. If you wander too far, you can get lost and end up coming out in some other universe entirely.
One of Tom Holt's books does have an example that can be summoned from anywhere, although I suppose that's technically just the entrance, and you could still say the library itself has one (pocket-dimension) location. I'm more concerned about L-Space, since Discworld is an extremely popular and well-known (and increasingly imitated) work.
edited 15th Jan '13 3:14:18 PM by Xtifr
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How about the library must not be split up into multiple smaller libraries but instead be a continuous entity. So you can have a huge connected library, but not a bunch of smaller branches.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
World's Toughest Milkman
That would work.
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Are we going to rename this to Great Big Library of Everything, or is there anything else left to do before that?
edited 15th Feb '13 1:27:34 PM by MarqFJA
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(she/her)
Before the rename, a new description was going to be used instead of the one on The Library Of Babel. After the rename comes sorting the examples and wicks between Great Big Library of Everything and Magical Library (which shouldn't be too hard). The last revised draft of the new one was on post 104
. Since a few tropers above suggested a change to the last line in the draft... here it is.
Often times this is guarded by a Magic Librarian or other force. Sometimes there will be a struggle with another group trying to obtain the same information, sometimes in a physical fight, but just as often with a Battle of Wits. If you're lucky, you'll find what you need. If you're not, it may turn out to be a Blank Book all along.
In many works, this setting is either very hard to get to, long forgotten, or rumoured to be a myth. In sci-fi and High Fantasy works, however, the library can be quite well publicized, and it's sometimes a big tourist destination.
Please note that the library must not be split up into multiple smaller libraries but instead be a continuous entity. So you can have a huge connected library, but not a bunch of smaller branches.
edited 19th Feb '13 9:20:35 PM by MacronNotes
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Make it "contains practically any possible/concievable information source (or seems to, at the very least, in which case the subversion of expectations would cause in-universe shock/disbelief)" and you got my personal 10 out of 10 seal of approval.
edited 15th Feb '13 2:37:29 PM by MarqFJA
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Changed the opening sentence in the draft() to that. Anything else or is that good enough?
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Well, put the stuff in the parentheses within note markup to save visual space, and move "known to man" before said note, and I'd say you're set to go.
Like so:
edited 19th Feb '13 10:00:08 AM by MarqFJA
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Done that.
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Uh, you forgot to move "known to man" to before the note. Its look right now, placed after the note, is rather awkward, IMO.
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That mistake has been fixed too.
(she/her)
Sooo.. Any more feedback for @115?
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
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Given that there were no opposition for the revised description on @115 and this thread is almost two years old and needs to move on, I will create Great Big Library of Everything (a redirect of Library Of Babel as of this post) using that description and try to sort the examples on Library Of Babel using that description tomorrow.
edited 21st Mar '13 8:33:27 PM by MacronNotes
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I made Great Big Library of Everything and tranplanted the image and quote from Library Of Babel. I haven't the examples over yet or shift all of LOB's indices to GBLOE (but I will do that soon). Now, the next thing that needs to be done is sorting the examples between Great Big Library of Everything and Magical Library. I'll create a sandbox for that.
EDIT: The sandbox is at Sandbox.Great Big Library Of Everything. I'll start sorting soon. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
edited 22nd Mar '13 8:22:57 PM by MacronNotes
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Crown Description:
Previous crowner
showed consensus support for making "library of everything" and "magical library" tropes. This crowner is for voting on the name of the "library of everything" trope which will take on the concept of a library that contains every work in existence.
The lack of links aside, I don't see anything complaintworthy there.
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