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shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#101: Apr 2nd 2012 at 9:09:21 AM

First I've heard about new rules.... tongue Link?

AckSed Pat. St. of Archive Binge from Pure Imagination Since: Jan, 2001
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#102: Apr 2nd 2012 at 9:26:18 AM

"We will not host any recommendation for fics that have explicit sex between people apparently younger than 16. We will not host recommendations that are themselves prurient. Anyone confused by this simple pair of rules is not needed to help us with the wiki."

Discussion. One poster mentions replacing "loli" with "young girl".

And No Lewdness, No Prudishness. I think that's it.

Terrible, terrible idea. The wiki's not a scholarly resource, no matter what some people want it to be.

edited 2nd Apr '12 9:26:50 AM by AckSed

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#103: Apr 2nd 2012 at 9:46:05 AM

The good news is that, so far, there are only a handful of recs that will definitely need to be culled, and some others that might look questionable but are safe. That being said, I haven't read any of the more recent recs, so I have no idea as to their content.

shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#104: Apr 2nd 2012 at 2:30:47 PM

tonguesad

Wait a minute. Wouldn't ANY Evangelion story have to be cut, according to those rules?

Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#105: Apr 2nd 2012 at 2:32:56 PM

[up]I'm pretty sure that not every Evangelion fanfiction ever written is a Lemon. Just, like, 75% of them.

What's precedent ever done for us?
shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#106: Apr 2nd 2012 at 2:34:12 PM

Okay, any Evangelion story that's explicit.

[lol]tongue

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#107: Apr 2nd 2012 at 4:41:31 PM

Yeah, the only ones that are really under the gun are the Lemons, but any of the fics that aren't that explicit but still clearly have the pilots in sexual situations fall under this since they're below the 16-yrs-old threshold. Fortunately for us, they're only a small minority of the recs, at least from what I could tell from skimming the list...there's a lot that I haven't read, so that's why I'm asking for help.

edited 2nd Apr '12 4:42:22 PM by Willbyr

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#108: Apr 2nd 2012 at 4:46:07 PM

The ruling specifically says "explicit sex". "Implicit sex" is not against the rule.

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#110: Apr 2nd 2012 at 8:17:24 PM

[up] No...what? I'm not asking anyone to take up the reins of reading all the fics to make sure they're safe to keep on the pages, but if you've read one and think it might fall on the chopping block, it needs to be mentioned. I'd rather this clean-up be done by people that are familiar with the fics instead of people coming in cold.

[up][up] That's what I was thinking. That means that Bpen's fics are safe...I'll pull them out of the OP in the clean-up thread. Are you going to move the Lemons to the Fetish Fuel wiki?

edited 2nd Apr '12 8:20:30 PM by Willbyr

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#111: Apr 2nd 2012 at 11:30:50 PM

You're not reading the rule, that's why. The under-16 thing matters only in relation to explicit sex. That's what the rule says.

It doesn't matter if they're in clearly sexual situations. The rule says explicit sex between under-16s, and like most rules of censorship, it should be interpreted narrowly.

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#112: Apr 3rd 2012 at 3:57:37 AM

[up][up] I am currently coordinating with one of FFW's currently "active" admins, chihuahua0, on how to do that. In the mean time, please compile a list of what you nuked and send it to either me or Chihuahua (PM me if you want my e-mail).

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#113: Apr 3rd 2012 at 4:00:51 AM

[up][up] The problem is, though, where people draw the line between Lime and Lemon is subjective, which is why I'm saying, if you think a fic might be explicit enough that someone would scream and holler about it, it needs to be discussed.

[up] I haven't nuked anything yet.

edited 3rd Apr '12 4:01:48 AM by Willbyr

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#115: Apr 7th 2012 at 12:31:52 PM

To the person wondering about God Within, rest assured, when I wrote that it was intended solely as a Parody of Fix Fic and of End Of Evangelion in general. A parody overflowing with Crazy Awesome, Testosterone Poisoning, and enough ham to give a man cholesterol problems, but still ultimately a parody.

Now, Neon Knights, on the other hand.....

edited 7th Apr '12 4:36:25 PM by EvaUnit01

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#116: Apr 7th 2012 at 4:55:11 PM

... You're Gundam Kaizer?

edited 7th Apr '12 4:55:25 PM by MarqFJA

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#117: Apr 7th 2012 at 9:47:09 PM

That would indeed be me. If you don't believe, then by all means, ask me something only the author of any of my stories would know, like an upcoming plot development, how I got inspired for something, whatever. I'm kinda free about spoilers with fans who are awesome enough to ask. Just found this thread today (normally not on forums/whathaveyou much), and I gotta say, when I found that a Troper found something of mine worth recommending - and it wasn't me - I had a major Squee moment.

Also, I will now confirm that Clifford Byron Mustaine II does indeed have Medium Awareness. Not only does he frequent This Very Wiki, but remember that he carelessly remarks about how "the plot required it", and also that he puts "fanfic authors" in the same league as "demigods, quasideities, and the aristocracy of Hell".

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#118: Apr 7th 2012 at 11:29:58 PM

Technically, the best way to confirm would be to post a message specified here to your FF.net profile*

. But I don't think anyone would care enough to impersonate a random fanfic author; hence, we basically believe you. tongue

I found the one about Third Impact happening and Shinji going awesome and slightly deranged to be fun, if crackish. I suppose I'll add the rest of your stuff to my very long queue of 'stuff to read once I have some actual free time'.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#119: Apr 8th 2012 at 4:00:15 AM

[up][up] Nah, it's cool. smile I believe you. You aren't the first fanfic author to post in this forum after making a solid fanfic career (SCM of 2814 and Durandall come to mind).

So, first of all: I loved God Within very much. I was about to crack my ribs from laughing my ass off by the time I nearly finished.

Second of all, any chance of continuing Burning Vengeance and/or Birth of a God?

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Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England Since: May, 2010
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#120: Apr 8th 2012 at 4:19:52 AM

Story idea!

What if Third Impact sent Shinji back to the start of the series... before he got his magic floaty blue psychotherapy session?

Misato knew something was wrong when she went to pick up the commander's son. She'd seen those trembling hands, that thousand-yard stare on people before, but they'd generally been old soldiers, scarred, broken shells of men who'd seen a few too many horrors for the human mind to withstand. She'd never seen them on a fourteen-year-old boy.

The way he went white as a sheet when he saw her wasn't terribly encouraging, either.

"You're dead. I saw your blood. I heard the gunshot. Why aren't you dead?"

Still, the commander had said they needed him, and when an eldritch horror from the dawn of time was tearing up your city, beggars couldn't be choosers. She pushed aside her misgivings, and made for NERV Headquarters.

Then came their meeting, father and son, for the first time in a decade. She was never quite sure, afterwards, how the boy had got his hands on her service pistol. All she saw was a metallic gleam and a blur of motion, and then Gendo Ikari, the commander of NERV, was lying on his back with a bullet through his heart.

She was never quite sure why the old bastard had had a smile on his face, either.

The apocalypse is coming, and humanity's only defence has been decapitated. NERV is alone in the dark, left to pick up the pieces with only an insane, traumatised child to guide them through the nightmares that are to come. What was Commander Ikari hiding? What secrets lie at the heart of Terminal Dogma? And without Unit-01's chosen pilot, how can they hope to stop the Angels?

SEELE watches from the shadows, and adjusts the pieces on its board. The game just got a little more interesting.

What's precedent ever done for us?
MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#121: Apr 8th 2012 at 4:32:47 AM

"First meeting" as in when they first see each other in Evangelion 01's cage during Sachiel's attack, or when they first meet in person at the elevator after Sachiel's defeat? Because if it's the former, then it shouldn't be possible for Shinji to shoot him from that far away and with shatter-resistant glass protecting Gendo (it tanked the girders Unit 01 knocked away with no visible damage).

edited 8th Apr '12 4:34:32 AM by MarqFJA

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#122: Apr 8th 2012 at 6:41:19 AM

[up]Eh, no need to stick to canon too much. Having Shinji be out of his mind on PTSD should be enough to set the butterfly flapping and mix things up a little. Gendo might head down to see him in person once it's apparent what sort of state he's in - if nothing else, he'd be curious about how he got that way.

edited 8th Apr '12 6:41:58 AM by Iaculus

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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#123: Apr 8th 2012 at 7:03:17 AM

As a matter of fact, yes. At least in the case of Burning Vengeance. The next chapter has a few pages done, and will be when it finally starts to get real. (also, reviews help motivate me to write more and can shift my priorities. Shinji and Super Smash Bros., for instance, was only ever going to be a one-shot until someone reviewed and inspired me to continue it.) As for "Birth of a God", I need to get around to reading more Elfen Lied so I don't make myself look like a fool with that chapter. Granted, I could pull a Kamen Rider Decade and just say I'm using AR worlds to Hand Wave any discrepancies, but I don't want to take that out just yet.

I was actually speaking with my betareader StraightedgeWingZero about something similar to that, but instead of TI throwing him back in time without therapy, it threw him into the world of G Gundam, where he had to slowly recover over the four years into the next tournament. With regards to your idea.... Sure, Why Not?? I just wonder how he's going to take it when he meets Rei and Asuka again. And then when he figures out what's going on. I predict that that will be hilarious. Unless it's all played for HONF instead.

Maybe for whatever reason they forgot to install said bulletproof glass in this timeline? Or Ritsuko arranged to have it removed and Gendo somehow didn't notice?

You have a point, and not necessarily a bad one, either.

Glad to see you seem to like the fics where Shinji is most insane, barring Devourer and Prodigal Son.

edited 8th Apr '12 7:05:26 AM by EvaUnit01

Muphrid Relativistic physicist from Constellation Bootes Since: May, 2010
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#124: Apr 8th 2012 at 7:47:38 AM

[up]x4: It sounds like an interesting premise. What would happen in the long run, though? Can he start to heal on his own, or would he continue to do things to work out his issues and still find no peace?

Author of The Second Coming (NGE) and The Coin (Haruhi).
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#125: Apr 8th 2012 at 8:00:07 AM

[up] I've usually been of the opinion that by the time End rolls around, Shinji's too broken to fix without the psychadelic Mind Screw that is the TV Ending. Doesn't mean he can't still be a goddamn Hero, though.

edited 8th Apr '12 8:02:44 AM by EvaUnit01


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