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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#6526: Sep 19th 2016 at 10:08:44 AM

No, I'm not being mobbed by tiny kids. I'm instead bogged down by other real-life business. Ugh, I hate my life.

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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#6527: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:19:59 PM

Join the club.

.....this is a stupid question, but Rei's more "doesn't really express/understand some of her emotions" than "hasn't yet developed certain emotions", right?

edited 19th Sep '16 2:26:50 PM by EvaUnit01

heliosKAISER The Struggler from Shadow Moses Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Struggler
#6528: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:32:57 PM

Since Gendo is raising Rei like a tool to be used and replaced if necessary, I'm going to say the former.

You gotta start somewhere.
EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#6529: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:36:45 PM

To clarify in case my meaning didn't come across very well, it's the difference between being The Stoic with minimal or No Social Skills vs actually being an Emotionless Girl.

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#6530: Sep 19th 2016 at 3:03:18 PM

I'm personally of the opinion that she has emotions just fine. She just doesn't care enough to express them - and in fact might be amused at people who get frustrated by it. In other words, Rei is a troll with an extremely good poker face.

In response to the responses to my previous post, I actually try to avoid POV changes between people who are not in direct line of sight to each other in the same scene. I don't know why, I'm just like that. Probably stemming from the time I read a very old Starcraft fanfic that constantly went back-and-forth-and-back-and-forth-and-back-and-forth with 'meanwhile' scene changes at a point, to an extent where the author was actively lampshading and snarking about it multiple times and promising the audience that he's not going to keep doing it for much longer.

edited 19th Sep '16 3:25:29 PM by amitakartok

shanejayell Since: Jun, 2011
#6531: Sep 19th 2016 at 5:58:38 PM

Or as some fanfic authors suggest, Rei's drugged to the gills.

EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Fandom Heretic
#6532: Sep 19th 2016 at 10:00:59 PM

[up][up]Sounds to me like a wee bit of an overreaction, man. And personally, the idea of anime!Rei as a troll really doesn't sound quite right.

Unless we're talking Angelic Days!Rei or something. That, I could probably buy.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#6533: Sep 19th 2016 at 11:42:37 PM

I'm personally of the opinion that she has emotions just fine. She just doesn't care enough to express them - and in fact might be amused at people who get frustrated by it. In other words, Rei is a troll with an extremely good poker face.
I could see that as one likely possibility of how Rei would be after Character Development from continued interaction with Shinji (or someone else who is similarly motivated to bring her out of her shell; I think I've read some fanfic!Asukas who do that).

edited 19th Sep '16 11:43:02 PM by MarqFJA

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EvaUnit01 Fandom Heretic Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
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#6534: Sep 20th 2016 at 12:09:32 AM

[up]Granted, but I'm talking pre-Ramiel Rei, here.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#6535: Sep 20th 2016 at 12:51:37 AM

I know. I thought it would've been obvious, but I agree with heliosKaiser; she can feel emotions, but she's largely unfamiliar with them and/or how to properly express them due to Gendou's "upbringing". The fact that she doesn't know how to react to Shinji expressing unconditional care for her well-being note  is a sign that something is seriously wrong with her upbringing.

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ZoneAdv944 from Somewhere in Canada Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#6536: Sep 21st 2016 at 1:00:51 PM

I'm slowly chipping away at the next chapter of my JJBA/Eva crossover which should be out by early October. Now I'm stuck on how to finish the Ramiel fight. Right now, I have 3 ideas, and they all start with Ramiel firing the beam after the space shuttle heat shield was already destroyed.

NOTE: In my fic, Shinji (Eva 01) is the one with the shield while Mari (Eva 05) has the positron cannon. Red Hot Chili Pepper (who developed new powers since 1999) is helping with the fight.

1. Shinji blocks with his body, only to realize the beam was severely weakened because RHCP was leeching power from the Angel the entire time and feeding it to the positron rifle.

2. Shinji uses his gravity-based Stand to pull debris in front of him as a makeshift shield, giving Mari the chance to fire.

3. The beam goes through Shinji, only to be blocked by Mari's AT-field, which turned green for some reason ( foreshadowing who's soul is in Mari's Eva Unit).

edited 21st Sep '16 10:25:58 PM by ZoneAdv944

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#6537: Sep 24th 2016 at 9:50:23 AM

Okay, now, after I've read a few JJBA crossovers with other stuff, I might enjoy a crossover with EVA a bit more. I'm still pretty much ignorant about anything that doesn't involve Jotaro and his grandfather going to Egypt.

Also, I suddenly had an urge for Adeptus Evangelion. I should probably go and find that Ad Eva fanfic someone linked to, in this very thread.

Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.
ZoneAdv944 from Somewhere in Canada Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#6538: Sep 25th 2016 at 9:55:22 PM

The gist with RHCP is that it's a Stand with electrical powers controlled by a rock musician. Jotaro does appear in my fic, too, and he's friends with Kaji.

Adeptus Evangelion fic, you say? Now that should be interesting.

VolatileChills Venom Awakens from Outer Heaven Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Venom Awakens
#6539: Sep 26th 2016 at 1:15:10 AM

Could be referring to something I started last year. Been on hiatus for a while because other projects keep distracting me.

Basically, it's all-OC and has a few setting tweaks. The idea came to me when I was messing around with the character generation and setting generation rules in the AE V3 beta (and also thinking of ways to tweak the rules to make the human-scale combat resemble Dark Heresy's again [lol]).

Here it is, in case you want to check out what I've done so far.

Standing on the edge of the crater...
TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#6540: Sep 26th 2016 at 11:25:57 AM

Yep, that's the one. I've last checked it when it was 5 chapters long.

Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.
SaintDeltora The Mistress from The Land Of Corruption and Debauchery Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just high on the world
The Mistress
#6541: Sep 27th 2016 at 6:49:25 AM

Volatile: How was Dark Heresy's combat like if I may ask?

I am kinda curious about how you write a fight scene due to some stuff of my own, so I'd like to know.

edited 27th Sep '16 6:50:05 AM by SaintDeltora

"Please crush me with your heels Esdeath-sama!
VolatileChills Venom Awakens from Outer Heaven Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Venom Awakens
#6542: Sep 27th 2016 at 7:57:42 AM

It provides a good variety of options. Guns can fire single-shot, double taps, auto bursts and suppressive fire. Cover is encouraged, because it negates hits to areas that are randomly or deliberately targeted while behind it, but flimsy cover can be shot through. Melee combat has the standard, offensive and defensive attacks, as well as special tricks like disarming and force-moving an opponent. Called shots can be used to attack unarmored body parts, or to destroy particular body parts using critical damage.

The health system has two sections - normal wounds and critical damage. The normal wound limit is 7-14, depending on character type, and most weapons do 1d10+X damage, so combat can get lethal pretty quickly. The critical damage tables are very extensive, with different results depending on hit location, amount of damage, and type of damage.

However, despite the generally high level of detail, it still doesn't measure up to the sheer amount of options presented in GURPS, particularly in the tactical shooting supplement, which is what I now use for a lot of gunfight inspiration.

Standing on the edge of the crater...
amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#6543: Sep 28th 2016 at 5:25:40 PM

...damn, my brain went and did it again. Came up with another crazy idea for SCE.

I may have mentioned it before that there might eventually be a very, very Distant Finale sequel of sort for the main storyline, taking place 8000 years into the future and involving a cult cloning Kaworu (who had been dead for well over 6000 years now) to use the clone as a Clone Jesus puppet messiah to take control of humanity with by way of reactivating Unit-01, currently sitting on the hillside above Kaworu's tomb on Earth as a silent guardian. Only to get a hitch thrown into their plans when the clone, who was raised on a backwater planet and kept in the dark about the plan until his teenage years, decides not to play along and tries to find his own way to Earth to keep Unit-01 out of the cult's hands.

Unfortunately for the cult, even Evas are not immune to the teeth of age and by this era, Unit-01 had rotten away into a semi-fossilized skeleton with completely rusted cybernetics piled up at the bottom of the armor, but nobody knows that at that point because Earth's location has been lost for thousands of years now.

Anyway, what I came up with just now is that after Unit-01 reached the end of its shelf life, so to speak, the Neo-Terran Shogunate (the AEL's spacefaring distant descendant) had to ditch the Spear of Longinus because they couldn't get the Beast to make another Eva grow an S2 organ. So instead they stuck the Spear into the ground next to Unit-01 and had the Beast make the Spear of Longinus seal an unmanned Eva into a temporally-static pocket universe as a countermeasure against wannabe grave-robbers. And since they couldn't rely on the Eva being able to use the Spear, they instead equipped it with the most crazily high-tech gear the laws of physics allow.

As in, almost Super Robot Genre high-tech.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#6544: Sep 28th 2016 at 5:38:56 PM

And the Kaworu clone somehow ends up attaining control over said unmanned Eva?

edited 28th Sep '16 5:39:56 PM by MarqFJA

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amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#6545: Sep 28th 2016 at 6:10:00 PM

More like the Spear scans him and recognizes his DNA, so it unwillingly teleports him into the Eva's entry plug while deploying the Eva to protect him.

So the Eva materializes in a Sphere of Destruction Terminator-style, wearing what looks like a nanosuit but no armor. It stands up, looks around, flexes its muscles... and armor plates materialize around it from thin air and attach themselves to it on their own, showing to the reader that its tech level is WAY above everything seen in the main series.

As appropriate to something built 5000 years into the future, you know.

Additionally, the Eva also has basically a miniature Astronomicon built into it to activate whenever it's thawed out to automatically signal its owners that someone woke it up. So those cult guys are about to get sandwiched between this thing and its owners' giant fleet.

edited 28th Sep '16 6:16:34 PM by amitakartok

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#6546: Sep 28th 2016 at 8:02:48 PM

...I have some feelings that you end up reading too much Planetary Annihilation SI fic. Not That There's Anything Wrong with That.

In fact, I have this fic in my head involving totally bonkers, brain-damaged Commander that got stranded in South Pole, with outher shell damaged from disuse to the point that this body only had one functional leg and heavily fragged production database.

Which is actually fine for the most part, if not because said Commander had unfortunate meeting with WW 2 battleship that decides that Reflex Canon is a legitimate greetings against unknown element.

Fleet Of Fog had noticed me. Oh my.

edited 28th Sep '16 8:16:23 PM by RBomber

amitakartok Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
#6547: Sep 29th 2016 at 1:10:11 AM

...I have some feelings that you end up reading too much Planetary Annihilation SI fic. Not That There's Anything Wrong with That.

I'm not familiar with PA and I generally avoid SI like the plague. My brain came up with that after remembering a certain cutscene from Halo 4, actually.

ZoneAdv944 from Somewhere in Canada Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Owner of a lonely heart
#6548: Sep 29th 2016 at 12:07:42 PM

I decided to amp up the tension for the Ramiel battle chapter. If NERV fails to destroy the Angel on time, the US and Russia will drop as much nukes on Tokyo-3 as possible. On a side note, at the rate my chapter is going, it's going to end up far shorter than my other ones if I just write the battle itself.

TheNobody Since: Jan, 2011
#6549: Sep 30th 2016 at 12:05:39 PM

So, I've read Shadow Technocracy Evangelion. At first, it started like a "A bunch of stereotypically good guys are better than anyone" kind of story. Then... It got interesting.

The worldbuilding is pretty nice. All the different EVA series confuse me a little, but I think if I read about them again, I might get what they actually do and/or how they look like. The characters... Still look stereotypically good, but I now I have a feeling there's something under that cliche. Valentine, for example, or that Daddy's girl - I have a feeling she's about to show something in the next two chapters she appears. And that new gang, that was introduced in the last two chapters (7&8) - they are an interesting bunch. I can take a guess at where they come from, but It's still intriguing to find out where they go to. Are they good guys with unpleasant methods? Are they bad guys with teary backstories? Are they just messed up guys, who don't even know if they want to be bad or good? I'm looking forward to read more.

Oh, and I'd say, don't worry about making the combat more DH-like. What you've got so far is good enough... My advice would be, try to add some more description to the effects of the attacks - this way, you can make it more dramatic and/or more gory. Maybe try your imagination at some fighting moves that aren't covered by the rulebooks, but can still be done against an Archetype. What are their classifications, by the way? Warrior, Seeker and Spawner (or however it's called) are pretty easy to get, but the other types leave me guessing.

Also, I've gotta find myself that Ad Eva v3 rulebook.

Rather than smart, I'd prefer to be wise. It would let me be silly more often.
VolatileChills Venom Awakens from Outer Heaven Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Venom Awakens
#6550: Sep 30th 2016 at 5:09:26 PM

Thanks for the review! I'm glad you're liking it so far. grin

Here's the version I used. It should explain the EVA types quite well.

Yeah, the main team does seem to be clean-cut and competent at the start, but each of them has their own secrets and/or traumas, as well as the potential to gain more as the story progresses and SAN loss happens. The other pilot teams are meant to be something of a foil. For example, the British team is somewhat more rag-tag (at least two of their Units are second-hand, with the original military-trained pilots dead).

The renegade group is out for revenge, and doesn't really care who it has to go through to get it. They have their own storyline, which will intersect with the main team's at various points. They're not entirely antagonistic, though, since they are fighting against a conspiracy.

To clarify, I was trying to make the human combat more DH-like in terms of ruleset, although I am now considering just fudging it for plot convenience as a sort of Cutscene Power to the Max or Cutscene Incompetence. And while I do roll the E-scale combat, I mostly do that to determine who takes damage, then I think up the actual moves to sound cool (e.g. the Seeker fight had it take a critical hit to the head from a superheated knife, which I decided would melt its metallic tongue).

The Archetypes are based on the PMAI types. The two that I've shown and you haven't figured out are kinda tricky. The Sage is a highly analytical combatant that uses powerful AT and physics-bending abilities, while the Innocent has a death radius that allows it to damage enemies even if it's unaware of their presence.

edited 30th Sep '16 5:18:21 PM by VolatileChills

Standing on the edge of the crater...

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