The blue eyes tropes in YKTTW don't match the list either because I based them on what I found in the examples when I split rather than the list. Some of them really need better names though.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickI could use some more input on these so I can get them launched.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickAren't we keeping Blue Eyes, etc as an example-free indexes?
I think it would be better to have one index for eyecolors in general, otherwise people will abuse the blue links.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.That sounds good. The original idea was just disambiguation pages saying "fix the link that brought you here," but that might be a better one.
I like the idea of one list of all eye colours and cutting the single colour pages. It will make clean up better.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickWait, now I remember why cutting them was shot down: They have some pretty massive inbounds, so cutting them entirely is out of the question. We might be able to get away with faux-redlinking, but I dunno.
We could make them all redirects to the main index? but really I would prefer Eye Colors as an index with Blue Eyes as a subindex.
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!I thought we were splitting up all the eye tropes, not just blue eyes.
SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)Yeah, this. I don't see why we need a separate index for each color. Seems rather pointless since most of the tropes aren't associated in any way except the trivial detail of using the same color.
Inbound links is a good reason for not deleting, unfortunately, but I like the idea of making them all redirects to the sole Eye Color Trope index page.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.We could permanently redshift them, point them at the color index, and then lock the pages.
Fight smart, not fair.Here are the stereotypes for each eye color.
Black Eyes
- Sinister, gritty, or mysterious
- Sorrowful or sad
- How the art style represents Brown Eyes, especially Dark Brown Eyes
- Reduce animation costs
Brown Eyes
- Trustworthy and stable — "down to earth"
- Mysterious and sensual (Dark Brown Eyes, whether almost black or not)
- Earth Powers (one of the Elemental Eye Colors)
- Often make the best Puppy-Dog Eyes
- Normal (either "the one guy with brown eyes doesn't have any powers" or "non-Caucausians with other eye colors are special" or both)
- Light brown or copper eyes can have elements of Eyes of Gold.
Red or Ruby Eyes
- Villainous or sinister
- Might get Darker and Edgier over time or even take on a full-blown Face–Heel Turn if not evil to begin with
Gold, Yellow, or Amber Eyes
- Supernatural
- Have powers above that of normal humans
- Very often animalisitic
- Catlike, wolflike, or foxlike
- Trickster
- Sometimes indicative of having a Superpowered Evil Side
Hazel Eyes
- Mundanes with the potential to be something more (linking to the "normal" part of Brown Eyes)
- Mercurial and unpredictable but reliable
- Unfortunate association with Mary Sue
- Catlike
- Counting as Eyes of Gold
Gray Eyes
- Prophetic (often blind), mentor
- Cold, strong-willed, unapproachable, and valuing ideas over people
- Innocence (Forgotten Trope)
- With blond(e) hair (Forgotten Trope)
- Beauty (when linked with rosy cheeks and golden hair; Forgotten Trope)
- Dangerously competent and cold
- Intelligent
- Apethetic
Green Eyes
- Nature spirits
- Possessing an innate, natural magic; more witchlike that wizardly
- Spitfire and untrustworthy
- Striking and sexy (often overlapping with Fiery Redhead or just redhead in general to get Greeneyed Redhead)
- Independent
- Dreamy (if it's not an especially yellowish shade)
- Cat-like
Teal Eyes (split from Blue Eyes)
- Dreamy
- Heroic and/or independent (the former from Blue Eyes, the latter from Green Eyes)
Blue Eyes
- Innocence (The replacement for Innocent Gray Eyes)
- Youthful
- Heroic
- With blond(e) hair (The replacement for Gray Eyed Blonde)
- Piercing and icy
- Unsettling
- Demonic/Evil Eye
- Water Powers (one of the Elemantal Eye Colors)
- Eerie/sophisticated (but not mysterious) wizard
- Witch; supposedly capable of controlling people
- European or American stereotype (often, but not always combined with blond(e) hair)
Purple Eyes
- Special, mysterious, and badass
- Classic Mary Sue eye color
- Royalty
Pink Eyes (Not to be confused with the eye problem called "pink eye")
- Counting as Red Eyes, Take Warning
- Usually has albinism
- Caring, thoughtful and carefree
- Pink Means Feminine for eye colors
edited 11th Sep '11 3:19:46 PM by EdnaWalker
Started Sinister Black Eyes and Sorrowful Black Eyes YKTTW. I'm a little busy cleaning up the Evilly Affable wicks, but I'll sponsor them. It will just be a few days.
Also, do we need an Unkempt Black Eyes tropes? The Black Eyes page notes that minor characters with the eye color tend to be grungy.
edited 10th Sep '11 3:31:17 PM by Discar
Black eyes for being somehow inhuman?
I think that kind of has to do with "dull eyes" or "sad eyes" or whatever.
edited 10th Sep '11 5:04:29 PM by NoirGrimoir
SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)I support the suggestion someone made earlier to use "teal" instead of "blue-green".
Currently reading a Sci-Fi Dystopian Murder Mystery Forbidden Romance Adventure Thriller IN SPACE!. Your argument is invalid.Teal/Blue Green has no examples. It's not a trope. Attempts to gather examples in the TRS failed. I've already split Blue Eyes into tropes based on the examples we actually had. Two of the tropes have been launched. Innocent Blue Eyes, and Icy Blue Eyes. Occult Blue Eyes, and Creepy Blue Eues are still gathering some discussion.
There is no blue-green eyes trope. It does not exist as a trope.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickBlue-Green eyes usually just take on one or the other of the blue or green-eyed tropes. Basically characters with those can draw from both or switch between green and blue eyed tropes. Grey eyes can also do this with Blue eyes but it has it's own Grey eyed tropes as well.
I would argue that another possibility for Purple eyes is "Royalty".
edited 11th Sep '11 2:16:12 AM by NoirGrimoir
SPATULA, Supporters of Page Altering To Urgently Lead to Amelioration (supports not going through TRS for tweaks and minor improvements.)Well, there could be Dreamy Teal Eyes or Dreamy Blue Green Eyes.
Edna, give us examples of blue-green eyes that aren't either the same as blue eyes; the same as green eyes; or simply using elements for, or swapping between both.
...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.I'm not going through these trying to split them under someone else's list. I'm splitting them by what's on the page. If anyone else wants to YKTTW other tropes that have no examples to back them up like most of Edna's do, they are free to. I just can't say how successful they are. Dreamy, and blue-green eyes don't seem to exist together.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickThat kind of thing might be related to The Generic Guy version of Dull Eyes of Unhappiness. Although some series the extras all have generic eyes (IE Heartcatch Precure if your not a member of the main characters family you have Brown Eyes.)
Maybe just "Generic Eyes"
- Counting as Red Eyes, Take Warning
- Usually has albinism
edited 11th Sep '11 8:04:39 AM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Speculating about how the examples are going to turn out before we actually look at them is doomed to fail. The only way to figure out where everything goes it to basically go in there and split it manually. Most of the time what you thought it was going to be based on the description doesn't seem to be where the tropes line up.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Crown Description:
Eyes Of Gold was voted to be renamed 12 to 0.
I think the Grey Eyes tropes on the list is a little off. Rather than Cold Grey Eyes and Dangerous Grey Eyes, it's more like Apathetic Grey Eyes (which usually leads to characters being cold and dangerous) and Intelligent Grey Eyes. I can think of about five characters off the top of my head whose defining traits are their intelligence and have grey eyes. Goddess of wisdom Athena actually has grey eyes.
Also sometimes grey eyes are lumped into Innocent Blue eyes if they're described more like "clear grey" or "soft grey".
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